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Greek Elites Whack Greeks Over Crisis
Greek minister says pension reform part of a package of austerity measures to clinch a three-year, multi- billion-euro aid deal, a Greek minister told the FT on Thursday. Andreas Loverdos (left), social affairs minister told the Financial Times the measures included dropping the seasonal bonus for pensioners in a bid to slash Greece's bloated budget deficit. "The timetable for the pension measures is still being debated, but there isn't much room for manoeuvre – this is about saving the country from collapse," Loverdos told the FT. Union officials told Reuters on Thursday the International Monetary Fund had asked Athens to raise sales taxes, scrap bonuses amounting to two extra months of pay in the public sector, and accept a three-year pay freeze. Other measures in the 24 billion euro package include raising the retirement age from an average of 53 to 67, the FT said in its Friday edition. – Financial Times
Dominant Social Theme: Finally the Greeks get what they deserve.
Free-Market Analysis: We promised ourselves not to write about the Greek/Euro crisis again for a couple of days, but we can't help but return to it when we see articles like the one excerpted above. In our view, the Greek crisis seems designed to provide real-life examples of what we've been writing about these past few years.
All kidding aside (and it is truly a sad situation), we think the way that the European and Greek elites are handling the crisis proves our points not only about power-elite manipulations generally but also about how the free-market simply cannot be ignored. It will always have its way sooner or later – and people will suffer as a result, financially from the thwarting of its will, usually innocent people.
In this case, it is average Greeks that are going to suffer. But we sure do wonder how the elite organizing the Greek fiscal retrenchment believes that those who are going to pay for it are going to submit without a murmur. The Greeks are not in any case a quiet people, culturally speaking. We've pointed out on numerous occasions that the Greeks are not necessarily profligate; that they have not "had their fun" (and now must pay for it) as an anonymous German recently put it in an article reporting on the mess.
No ... what happened was something else entirely. Investors, especially, who are trying to figure out what the heck is going on in Greece, and in the larger European Union, will need to be aware of what is taking place in the important subterranean cultural conversation that is not being reported in the mainstream media. They will need to understand what is being written on the Internet's blogosphere and what is being muttered over ouzo on the porches of people's houses where they gather to discuss the reality of what is being demanded.
The perceptive readers of the Bell (and other alternative publications) know that the entrance of the Greeks into the EU, and the largess that flowed as a result, did not reach the pockets of the average Greek. In fact, the EU exercise was likely one of legalized bribery. Money that was given to the EU to supposedly close budget gaps went to furnish numerous unnecessary private projects. The money was wasted, in a sense, as the projects weren't completed and wouldn't have helped generate a profit if they had been. The EU leaders providing the money knew this. But they didn't care so long as Greece joined the union.
Thus it was that the money cynically provided by EU's socialist leaders went into the pockets of the Greek elite that was in charge of the EU transition. And now this same elite, doubtless, is negotiating the Greek posture as regards the financial streamlining that must take place. If we can figure out what actually occurred, we don't think that it is hard for the average Greek to do so. When one reads about what is being negotiated, and puts it into the context of what went before, we think the average Greek may start to become fairly upset, if he or she is not already so.
We've read the Marxist rhetoric that the trade unions are using for instance. They claim that the "rich" have profited from the EU exercise at the expense of the larger mass of the people and that the cost of Greece's financial retrenchment should be borne by the rich as well. While we are not partial as a rule to communist analysis, we believe in this instance, that Greece's powerful union-rhetoricians have a point. This is exactly what happened – and what is about to happen as well.
It is actually kind of mind-boggling what Greek citizens are apparently being asked to do. It is not just that public pensions are being renegotiated, but that the age at which one can retire is going up by FIFTEEN YEARS. Is this really acceptable? People in Europe (and Greece) have accepted all sorts of regulatory nonsense (and even the erection of a quasi-authoritarian state) in return for financial security. But now they are to be left with the dregs of the deal and the sweetener is turning sour indeed.
The famous European social compact is being ripped to shreds. What makes the European elites confident that people will just go along? Again, in Greece, the average "Zorba" is likely well aware of what actually occurred, and who benefited the most. Now the social pact between citizens and the state is being drastically rewritten. And the Greeks generally are going to be paying for their entrance into the EU for years, maybe generations, to come.
Maybe we're missing something here. But we have a hard time thinking that Greeks are going to sit still for what is about to come down on their collective head. If one lumps all Greeks together (and we don't, as we indicated in yesterday's article on this subject), then it seems to make a little more sense. The Greeks collectively are getting what they deserved. They played and now they pay. Not so. The same elite that enriched itself initially when the Greeks joined the EU, is now negotiating the terms of Greece's pay back.
Conclusion: As a free-market thinking publication, we are not so sympathetic to unionism, welfarism or any other sort of collective- "ism." But given what we understand actually happened, what is about to "go down" may well be taken as an injustice by the average Greek struggling to stay afloat in the new and less forgiving EU economic environment. For this reason, we wouldn't be surprised if the idea of debt-repudiation becomes more, not less, attractive over time. The Greek political class can make the deal, but whether it can deliver is another question. It may be a long, hot summer in Athens and elsewhere in Greece.
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Posted by Denis Jaisson on 05/03/10 10:51 AM
But maybe you are referring to the individual egoisms that balance each other and thus form the common virtue - the "liberal miracle."
That is all very fine, as long as the individuals carry the same weight just about, but what when the common interests of wealthy heirs, a taste for, say an industrial activity such manufacturing automobiles and a lot of money get together, incorporate into a firm and eventually become a multinational company which, owing to a lack of regulation, starts buying politicians?
Never mind this; I maintain that preventing one's government from regulating the entry of alien workers into one's country - workers who then compete in one's national job market - does lower one's standards of living, since wages go down.
Posted by Denis Jaisson on 05/02/10 08:33 AM
"one cannot control the free-market. Sooner or later the market will have its way..."
What is this "free-market," by definition? The market which one cannot control? I am not being facetious here; just trying to define concepts, then look at what one derives from them. This I cannot do with the Bell - or anybody else - as long as we have not agreed on the meaning of the words and concepts.
Nevermind this; the concern, which I expressed, maybe clumsily, was for the "job market," a market that is controlled by the power-elite for the time being, a market which, today, is a "FREE market" only for the people who CONTROL it - by means of letting the "world-citizens" compete for jobs.
Now the Bells contends that "Sooner or later the market will have its way." This to me sounds like wishful thinking - how can the Bell be so sure?
As a Christian, I do believe that Good will (eventually) triumph against evil; it remains to be decided whether this "market" which some wish to have its way, is on the side of the Good or on that of evil. I am not saying that it is not; I want to hear arguments.
For the time being, the "market" for jobs - call it "free" or what have you - is not geared towards the good of the workers; quite the opposite indeed!
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Without going into details, and Lord knows we have written enough articles about why jobs won't bounce back this time round, we can provide a simple, informal definition of the free-market as follows:
"A free-market economy is one that has no government and thus no coercion, so the Invisible Hand is allowed to operate freely."
Marginal utility, human action and other Austrian concepts teach us that every regulation is price fix resulting in a mal-adjustment of resources (resulting in job losses) a queue or general scarcity.
Any civil society can tolerate some distortion in the market due to government, defense, etc. It simply lowers the standard of living. But the more "public' solutions that mandated (made into law) the lower the standard of living sinks until, in the most extreme cases (like Greece) the mandates entirely overwhelm society and the old order collapses and a new order begins.
Hope that helps.
Posted by Sean on 05/01/10 07:07 PM
Putin on his speech over "the commanding heights" stated that the wars of the early 21st Century would be economic and financial in nature.
For those of us ringfenced in behind the "debt curtain" the governing strategy has been defined by many, e.g. Anna Schwarz,monetrist school of economics--"the Anglo fractional banking model favours debt & speculation over savings & investment".
We trade in debt to gain others wealth.
True freedom and liberty now and tomorrow lies beyond the "debt curtain." If the former USSR and China's hold on power are anything to go by- see you in a few generations.
If we truly live under the warfare/welfare regime, and the welfare just ran out, what's left? Warfare. Hot wars on the periphery and total war(fin/econ) on the soft internal front behind the debt curtain. Your wealth has already been conscripted using stealth mechanisms. My bank was nothing more than a slave trader. What ever is coming, two things are not! Freedom and freemarkets.These have no place behind the debt curtain.
The best slaves are those who don't think they are slaves. Debt is the slavery of the free. Publillius Syrus.
Posted by Bpaolucci on 05/01/10 02:56 PM
Posted by Bill Fuller on 05/01/10 01:29 AM
Posted by Tom on 04/30/10 05:26 PM
Oops, the U.S. is next.
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Yes, anybody goes along with a gift. But the Greek people did not negotiate the gift, nor did they understand the ramifications. They were snookered, hustled, etc. Their leaders sold them down the river for upfront payments. It is not good to trust another with your own interest, yes? It is almost ... a Greek tragedy.
Posted by Carlos on 04/30/10 01:12 PM
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You are absolutely correct.
Posted by Robert Marchenoir on 04/30/10 12:06 PM
The percentage of the active population on the public payroll is enormous (check the figures). The civil service is hugely inefficient. In the middle of the present crisis, their unions were marching in the streets to claim the 35-hour week, this catastrophic socialist idea that was implemented only in France in the 1980's, and regretted ever since.
For a very long time, paying one's taxes in Greece was an optional thing, to a degree difficult to imagine in similar Western countries.
Posted by Bill Wolf on 04/30/10 11:55 AM
We also have to stop the governments from building up thier voting base, by bloating government payrolls,that taxes from the private sector can not support.
Goodbye Brown!!Thats just a start.
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Hello Tories? Ugh.
Posted by David Franke on 04/30/10 11:48 AM
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Thanks for reading and providing such thoughtful feedback.
Posted by Bill Ross on 04/30/10 11:45 AM
In my rare optimistic (ie; foolishly entertain the possibility that there may be reason driving current events) moments, I like to hope that current events are retaliation by free-market oriented elites for socialism and other unproductive state abuses, absurdities and crimes against humanity.
In my realistic (cynical) moments, I fear this may be a last gasp of states attempting to manufacture further crisis to prove the "necessity" (Machiavelli) of their meddling (with reality) sorry existence.
What is certain is that this is total WAR between irredeemably, beyond ability to compromise viewpoints (power is not in possession of reason, only entitled dogma). From a strategic perspective, it is in the interests of both sides to manufacture, escalate and steer multiple crisis in a manner such that majority perceptual opinion converges to the point that "we, the people" (the ultimate power) conclude that things must change and compromises must be made. Whether we compromise with reality or slavers is the basic question.
Whether freedom, prosperity and civilization wins or war, pestilence, servitude and tyranny wins is the purpose of this psychological war for our "heart and minds".
The crux of the matter is: Are the peaceful rights of all human beings equal, absolute and inviolate OR, are some to be master and others, serfs? It is that simple, always has been, for all of history.
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Very good. See other feedback on this issue.
Posted by Benjamin on 04/30/10 11:18 AM
Yes, indeed it is hard to wait and see. All one can do is talk about it to pass the time. Ever since that "black swan" flew across the sky, I've had a hard time not trying to figure out the peices of the puzzle. To be sure, this was going to happen, but that it happened now is what has me puzzled.
If this is a matter of manipulation, couldn't they have waited or done it sooner? Why now, why a test of the so-called world-wide recovery at this point in time?
Which leads me to suspect that the invisible hand IS at work here. It came in, and now markets seem to be trying their very hardest to ignore it (what has fallen?), often citing that Greece was always a debtor nation anyway, and thus of no consequence. It was always priced in, ie, and that would mean free markets worked.
And yet, questions remain. Goldman is on trial and there is much talk about finanical reform here in the 'states (which I imagine would have consequences outside our borders). I can very easily imagine/see that a crisis in Greece, and by implication Portugal, Ireland, Iceland (again!), and Spain... We might as well say Lehman times X, and we all know what happened last time there was a too-big-to-fail crisis that requried emergency changes in policy (we now must bail out banks whenever they're too big to fail, so long as Congress says it is important!).
Sorry to ramble, but back to the point... Is this a black swan or a planned move? Or is it a black swan of opportunity for those who would thank their lucky stars that it came along?
I'm sure there is no definitive answer to those questions. That is just the field as I see it.
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Excellent power elite analysis. Is it a promotion, part of a larger effort, or have hands been forced. Perhaps a combination of all three.
Posted by Bill Ross on 04/30/10 10:44 AM
Modern Civilization: This Sucker Is Going Down...
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The entire ponzi scheme is based on trust in future promises by those who have zero concept of honesty, trust, cooperation, property rights, productivity and all other values required by our former "division of labor", now forcefully redefined to "division of spoils" civilization by our predators. When the majority realizes that there is no social contract, rights or limits on arbitrary power, this is when the gloves come off. It will get much uglier until the (far fewer) survivors realize it is civilization under the "rule of law" (for ALL) or, barbarism and zero peace, prosperity nor civilization:
http://www.cli.gs/RuleOfLaw
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Good. Mr. Rockwell is usually correct.
Posted by Richardlamb on 04/30/10 10:06 AM
Perhaps this Greek situation will educate citizens of the world that their perceptions, fed to them by the ELITE, are incorrect, and the horrible truth, repudiation, is just around the corner.
Perhaps Mother Nature is about to take over?
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Agreed. Repudiation ... default ... Not just Greece, in our opinion. These monetary unions are unsustainable without political control. That means Spain, Portugal, etc. will have to be brought in line as well. Not an easy task. We increasingly believe it is an improbable one.
Posted by Khl on 04/30/10 09:35 AM
Did you read your own words? Retire at 53, get two months seasonal bonus. For what? Stamping a passport, issuing a driver's license, picking up the garbage, harassing a business for some imagined infraction that puts them out of business?
The public sector in Greece accounts for over 50 percent of the work force! Why should these parasites be exempt from the market forces? Everyone in the private sector is getting a royal boning from this depression and yet the public sector has been mostly exempt for now.
It takes two groups to hold up a state and exhault the statist model of government. The ruling elite and their bought and paid for public sector allies. This model of governance is coming unravelled everywhere in the world. NY, California, Illinois, France, Britain, you name it. Statism in an advanced state of entropy. The concept of a vast overpaid civil servancy that can continually extract raises and benefits increases has hit a brick wall. As the always endearing Lady Thatcher observed, "the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."
Well the world has run out and it can't endlessly be printed into existence without a greater catastophre occurring. The days of the six digit public employee pension, lifetime "free" health benefits and early retirement will soon be over. And so will the alliance between the financial elite and the public sector elite. Because as you stated, you can only avoid the vengeance of the market for so long, before it comes back to bite everyone in the posterior.
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It is the EU itself that has enabled Greek corruption. The Greek public sectors have always been corrupt, but since Greece joined the Union, the corruption has obviously risen (according to numerous reports) because the stability of the euro enabled it. This is, as well, a common sense analysis, and nothing extraordinary. The mainstream media will not draw these conclusions however, because the mainstream media is committed to protecting the concept of the EU.
The Greek elites have LONG SINCE pocketed their money. The average Greeks - even those working for the government and public unions - will be suffering for years. We think it will probably end in a default and maybe Greece will leave the EU. The demands of the IMF will be punitive of themselves, and almost everyone in Greece will suffer.
Was all this unexpected? No. Those at the top of the EU anticipated this sort of crisis. As did the Greek elites (different than Greek public servants). The Greek elites who sold their countrymen down the river took their money up front because they knew it couldn't last. Now the average Greek will pay for their avarice. And those in the public sector, especially at the lower ranks, will not be exempt.
Please also see our response to David Franke.
Posted by David Franke on 04/30/10 09:33 AM
"Money that was given to the EU to supposedly close budget gaps went to furnish numerous unnecessary private projects." This sentence and the rest of that sentence is an example of where specific details are needed. Can you at least provide us with sources for such details?
Then clarification is needed: Who do the pay freezes, bonus cancellations, and retirement-age changes apply to? Government employees, i.e., bureaucrats? I bet that's one bloated sector of the economy!
Why shouldn't a "bonus" be cancelled in an emergency? By definition, a "bonus" is not something that's guaranteed. And a bonus of two months' extra pay sounds like the kind of generosity at taxpayer expense that leads to this sort of emergency.
Also, I find retirement for public employees at age 53 to be obscene--and I bet their "retirement package" is obscene too. And I'm not picking on the Greeks, I say that about the U.S. too. Military personnel (and presumably other bureaucrats as well) can work for 20 years, "retire" with a generous pension, and then double-dip for the rest of their lives. If you join at age 20, you probably can look forward to 20 to 30 years of double-dipping, for millions of people. No wonder we're going broke!
The Greeks I feel sorry for (and the Americans I feel sorry for) are the ones who work in the private sector and have had to pay through taxes for the largess of the public sector. And I don't think it's "free-market thinking" to decry cutbacks in the public sector.
What's happening in Greece today will be happening soon in the U.S. Fascism (the form of government in all "developed" countries I've studied) is a conspiracy by Big Government (the public sector), Big Business, and Big Labor (unions) against the rest of us who pay the bills for their privileged deals, bailouts, and cartels.
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"Money that was given to the EU to supposedly close budget gaps went to furnish numerous unnecessary private projects."
Our point in this article was simple (and you seem to agree with much of it): The Greek elites have gained personally from entrance into the EU, and now the common Greek citizen will paying for this entrance for decades. The elites have already made their fortunes. The average Greek will experience years of increasing economic difficulty because of the country's entrance into the EU.
We have provided cites throughout our many articles on this subject. Here is a general statement on Greek misappropriation:
Otmar Issing, a German economist and a founding member of the European Central Bank (ECB), points out that successive Greek governments have falsified the Greek budget figures for years, in an attempt to deceive Brussels and the eurozone monetary authorities, such as the ECB. What is happening today is the result of 'years of violating rules, cheating on figures, financing consumption, public and private by huge debts " this is a way which has to be stopped, Issing told the BBC. 'Any sign that help might come, would undermine the efforts which are needed to reform the Greek economy.
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Funds that are provided to the Greek government especially are bound to be misappropriated at least in part, as the Greek mercantilist culture is endemically corrupt. The same can be said of Spain, Portugal, etc. In fact, governments the world over are generically corrupt. The Greek culture, with its contempt for the current regulatory demos is simply a more open and energetic practitioner. Also, the Greeks are very tribal as a culture, which means that those who engage in corruption are may be seen as aiding the individual tribe.
Just Google "Greek Corruption." Hundreds of cites.
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And here is something from Der Spiegel about the general, endemic money corruption in Greek society.
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Corruption is widely regarded as one of the triggers of the Greek debt crisis threatening the euro common currency. A new study by Transparency International suggests that corruption is part of everyday life in Greece, and claims private households paid more than 780 million euros in bribes in 2009.
The Greeks paid an average of 1,355 euros ($1,830) in bribes last year for public services such as speeding up the issue of driver's licenses and construction permits, getting admitted to public hospitals or manipulating tax returns, according to a new study by Transparency International, the Berlin-based global corruption watchdog.
In 2008, average bribes were even higher, at 1,374 euros the study said, according to a report in the German daily Die Welt on Tuesday. ...
According to Die Welt, Transparency International calculated that Greek households paid a total of 787 million in bribes in 2009 -- 462 million to civil servants and 325 million in the private sector. The total sum is up 23 percent from 2007, when TI estimated that bribes totalling 639 million were paid.
Government, Corporate Corruption Not Measured
The figures show only a small part of the corruption in Greece because many people did not admit to paying bribes, the study said. "We only measure so-called small-scale corruption, meaning bribes paid by private individuals to civil servants and in the private sector," the head of Transparency International Greece, Konstantin Bakouris, told Die Welt.
He added that TI did not record the corruption going on at the government and corporate level, even though it was widespread.
Posted by Frederik on 04/30/10 08:56 AM
"elite". Yet it is inconceivable to let workers go home from the age of 53 onwards and paying them for appr.20 years further on their last wages from the national till. Every Greek with ten fingers must be able to understand, that such a "paradise" is impossible to stay.
Posted by Ranger on 04/30/10 08:48 AM
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The second option often occurs.
Posted by Duane Bass on 04/30/10 08:19 AM
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Posted by Bill Ross on 04/30/10 08:01 AM
"For this reason, we wouldn't be surprised if the idea of debt-repudiation becomes more, not less, attractive over time."
The legal concept of "Odious Debt" again comes to mind, where populations are not obligated (responsible) to pay debts from which they have not benefited and, have, in reality, been harmed. This debt is a private matter between those who received the loan (benefited, the choosers) and those who foolishly lent and are therefore obligated to bear the burden of their mistakes:
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This is just a particular example of the general problem of elite subversion and misrepresentations of our action leads to inevitable consequence reality. They have forcefully defined matters such that those who do the action and profit are not the same as those who pay the inevitable consequence and suffer.
Justice Defined: We are all free to profit or suffer and learn (adapt to excellence) by facing the consequences of our OWN choices. Injustice is to be forced to suffer the consequences of choices of unaccountable (irresponsible) others..
"The danger is not that a particular class is unfit to govern. Every class is unfit to govern. The law of liberty tends to abolish the reign of race over race, of faith over faith, of class over class." ~ Lord Acton
Rule of Law, Defined:
http://www.cli.gs/RuleOfLaw
It is not necessary, but is highly probable that the people will violently oppose servitude. If they do, this just provides further police state rationalizations (a protection racket, provoke violence, escalate and use as false excuse for more power). Citizens of the former USSR were faced with similar problems and a far less restrained and far more brutal police state apparatus. Their solution? "If they pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work".
In other words, peacefully reduce productivity and passively increase costs for continued predations of those who enslave.
Allow the grim reaper of "mathematics of rule" to impose real consequences, as it has been for many decades. Also realize that what some call China's economic miracle is a direct consequence of rulers lightening up their predations and allowing a temporary illusion of property and economic rights:
http://www.cli.gs/MathematicsOfRule
If you're smart, YOU are John Galt. There is no appeasing predators. Starve the leech. This is WAR, but, be smart in how you fight.
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