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Tuesday, June 08, 2010 – by Staff Report

Laffer: 2011 'Tax' Collapse Coming ... Tax hikes expected to hit after the expiration of the Bush tax cuts will cause today's corporate profits to tumble next year — probably right after a stock market collapse, says economist Arthur Laffer, chairman of Laffer Associates and inventor of the Laffer Curve. "My best guess is that the train goes off the tracks and we get our worst nightmare of a severe 'double dip' recession," Laffer says. "Lots and lots of other changes will also occur as a result of the sunset provision in the Bush tax cuts," he wrote in the Wall Street Journal. "Tax rate increases next year are everywhere." Laffer says the coming hikes — coupled with the prospect of rising prices, higher interest rates and more regulations next year — are causing businesses to shift production and income from 2011 to 2010 to the greatest extent possible. "As a result, income this year has already been inflated above where it otherwise should be and next year, 2011, income will be lower than it otherwise should be," Laffer says. – MoneyNews

Dominant Social Theme: Cut those taxes!

Free-Market Analysis: One of the miracles of the years of former President Ronald Reagan (from a mainstream media perspective, anyway) was the boost the American economy received from tax cuts. And one of the prominent advisors to Ronald Reagan and his "kitchen cabinet" was Arthur Laffer, the developer of the Laffer Curve. This is a fairly simple graph that illustrates how tax revenue goes up when taxes are cut. This is why Arthur Laffer is so sure that the "sunset provision" of the Bush tax-cut plan will cause further havoc with the US economy. Laffer rightly points out that taxes are likely going up throughout the United States even if they do not rise at a federal level.

Of course it is also worth pointing out that there is significant economic havoc anyway in the United States and throughout the West. While some of it may be attributed to taxes, a good deal likely cannot (see other article in today's Bell on the inflation-deflation meme). And presumably, there is a point at which the effectiveness of tax cuts as a revenue finally decreases. It would for instance, be impossible to have NO taxes and still generate additional tax revenue. But Laffer's point was well received at the time – in the 1980s – by free-market conservatives and fought tooth-and-nail by America's leveling Democratic class. (He has a point now as well, as tax hikes must always act as a drag on an economy.)

Ultimately, Laffer won the day and the Reagan Administration, with Congress, instituted tax cutting measures. (The administration also removed certain tax loopholes which cost American taxpayer billions, but that's a story for another day.) The result of the Laffer graduated-income tax cuts seem fairly indisputable. The economy did well under Reagan (or well within the context of mainstream interpretations) and even seemingly under Bill Clinton who did not seek to significantly roll back tax cuts – mainly because of Congressional opposition.

But what is the dominant social theme we are after here? It is this: "Tax-cutting is a wonderful, free-market way to stimulate Western economies – and over-taxation is generally the enemy of growth and civil society." While this may seem intuitively obvious on its surface, it remains something of a promotion from our perspective – within today's US economic context – because it leads people away (at least a little) from thinking about other issues pertinent to Western economies. 

The most attention must still be paid to reforming monetary policy, our view. We certainly do not want to downplay fiscal policy, for as free-market proponents we believe taxes are most destructive to entrepreneurship and, generally, to the quality of life. But monetary policy is even more important, especially now, given the great debate about the primacy of the Federal Reserve, etc. We are reminded of this point by the interview that we did a while back with the famous free-market oriented economist and commentator George Gilder. It was Gilder who spelled out at least one important reason for Laffer's fiscal emphasis as follows:

"Like many movement libertarians, [Ron Paul] always prefers the quixotic ideal (radical spending cuts) to the feasible improvement of lower tax rates," Gilder states. ... And then he adds of Ron Paul, that, "by opposing defense spending and American power he has become a shill for the enemies of capitalism and freedom." He also states in answer to the next question about the impact of the US Tea Party movement, "[They are] a fully beneficial force as long as they stress tax cuts rather than spending cuts. Lower tax rates are good in themselves. Lower spending always ends up focusing on defense."

To read the full Interview with George Gilder, Click Here.

For us, this put the Reagan administration and its purported free-market policies in a different light. Regardless of whether Reagan fully understood the impact of his emphasis on fiscal policy, his administration's adoption of the Laffer Curve approach to economic growth realigned and controlled the way people saw the free market at the time. The movement toward laissez faire was much influenced, therefore, and its energy focused on cutting taxes rather than examining the role of central banking and its impact on the larger economy.

Fast forward to the 21st century. On a mainstream TV program, free-market thinker and financial advisor Peter Schiff bet Arthur Laffer a dollar that the West, and specifically America, were facing hard times in the later 2000s. Laffter took the bet and claimed any downturn would prove to be fairly insignificant. We don't know if Laffer paid up, but he was clearly wrong, and the reason he was wrong, in our view, was likely because of a free-market philosophy that emphasizes fiscal rather than central banking.

To watch that famous Laffer/Schiff debate, Click Here.

Laffer was wrong because he didn't, and doesn't, apparently, pay enough attention to monetary policy. And to some degree this may be a purposeful avoidance. We can see from George Gilder's statement that Laffer and other mainstream conservative-oriented thinkers want to focus on fiscal policy because when monetary policy is discussed, the conversations eventually turn to larger issues of how modern fiat-money economies operate and why, in America, anyway, the military industrial complex is so lavishly funded. The Laffer Curve was, perhaps, a free-market prophylactic, protecting the powers-that-be from a larger conversation about the West's monetary and military posture.

Today, thanks in large part to the Internet (and Congressman Ron Paul among others), the West – and America in particular – is having that conversation nonetheless and threatening to usher in another great societal-shifting reformation. Changes are coming both sociopolitically and economically. We would argue that Laffer's tax conversation, while important and timely, should be viewed within the context of America's larger (and growing) argument over money stuff and how to circulate it.

Conclusion: It will be interesting to see if the larger conversation is in some sense refocused on fiscal as opposed to monetary policy. If the primacy of this meme is somehow re-established, the evolution of the US monetary conversation might well be diminished at least a little by a mainstream media grateful to focus on realigning certain elements of the graduated income tax rather than dramatically changing the banking system. Again, both fiscal and monetary issues are important from an economic standpoint (in fact taxes are intimately linked to the operation of central banking), and surely people can concentrate on more than one thing at a time. But the redirection has apparently happened before. Investors, therefore – trying to figure out where the American economy is headed – will want to take note of the evolving economic conversation about the crisis and, especially, where the emphasis is placed.




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  Posted by FLR on 06/10/10 07:30 PM

Laffer is a despicable worm and a rotten economist. He refuses to admit that he was wrong and pay up:

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  Posted by Bryan on 06/09/10 10:30 PM

Irwin Schiff is as much a patriot as the best one ever! Take a look at the Free Enterprise Society.

  Posted by Weeble on 06/09/10 09:26 PM

His wife prompted him to begin an ostentatious show of wealth. This seems to have been his downfall; coupled with his blatant use of Hollinger for personal use when it was a public company. This gave the SEC permission to nail him to the wall. Not a bad guy really, in the PE scheme of things! He went down with a fight. Commoner!

  Posted by Weeble on 06/09/10 08:24 AM

Conrad Black:

I was misinformed by my fallible human brain. His 2nd and current wife is Barbara Amiel (loopier loo). He reported to the prison gates in 2008, and he remains there until 2013. Conrad asked for a pardon, but only got a sneeze in the face from GW.

A weak wiki is:

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My own early personal recollection of the man was him being a gregarious news personality, cutting to the bone and not mincing words. A friend of mine had bet with me during the trial that he would never go to jail. I won, but I neglected to finance the deal beforehand, so it was a not a fermented celebration.

I watched a made for TV movie, Shades Of Black – The Conrad Black Story, I believe, that indicated that he initially wooed bored rich housewives to get them to proxy their shares to him, so he could magnify his control of a corporate situation, and get his foothold onto Fireball XL5. I may be slightly askew on the mechanics of it, as I was not in the “newthink” mode at the time.

His newspaper empire was the 3rd on the size list, and he was #238 on the published list of the richest people 2003, but off the list in 2004.

On the Wiki article, it said the IT Crowd show joked that he was the richest man on earth to go to jail in 300 years.

His timeline was more informative, as to the rise and fall of the man:

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David Radler, his long time partner got a “Karla Homolka” pass. He turned on him and exposed the roots of his teeth in court.

The Power Elite never eat their young, but poor newbies like Conrad Black and Martha Stewart are fair game; possibly a sport. Maybe Conrad is currently antiquing furniture with a chain?

I think I have a bio in book form that I will speedscan for more info if desired.

To conclude, my armchair politics learning curve may seem protracted, but I think I have tangential theories, with purposeful velocity and direction, that usually end at a quantifiable point in the future, but only time will tell. I could call it the “Wave At The Future Particle Theory”.

I do not know why I keep bringing this man into my feedbacks; maybe to add some colour? I think this is his final curtain (available at Home Depot). Maybe “it’s a good thing” to stop running on the Black track.

  Posted by Digger on 06/09/10 08:23 AM

Everytime I hear Ron Reagan, GW, and capital gains taxes there is someone like you telling us that if we let YOUR taxes rise it will cost the common Joe and Jane. Trickle down econ is a shame just like these ponzi markets.

It's called a threat. The Fed Reserve, the banksters and YOU threaten us if YOU don't get your way. Where I am for lower taxes, I don't think the tax burden is mostly on the shoulders of you and your type. But your type certainly complains the most.

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You think an argument is strengthened by personalizing it?

  Posted by Alan on 06/09/10 03:51 AM

They will simply print more money and cover the losses. Pention plans short, print more money. Social security short, print more money. Its easy to do and no one will know or care. It has worked just fine so far. If there is any negative effect it will fall on the next administration which will blame the old administration. People will be too busy trying to feed themselves to care. Everything will be just fine!

  Posted by Weeble on 06/08/10 11:31 PM

I think Conrad said something off colour to someone, or the newspaper empire was not playing the game, but they got him on a technicality (currently serving time in FLA). His wife is Diane Francis (loopy loo). He used to be my virtual mentor when I was young. He said "life is about choices". Extremely successful man (was). I have to retire, so I will get back to you on more details.

  Posted by Weeble on 06/08/10 11:25 PM

I apologize if my glibness struck a chord. I hope you are right, for his sake. I never argued with what Peter says, but I do not know him personally, so the nuances of face to face contact over 20 years is radically different than 4 years over the net or MMM.

I have known people for many years, and past behaviour is not always a 100 percent predictor of future behaviour. I can only go by my gut feeling. But hey, in my mind, if 1 and 1 make 2, then I cannot say 3.

I would never run for public office any capacity whatsoever, as changes cannot be made there.

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How was Conrad Black stung, and why?

  Posted by Weeble on 06/08/10 10:22 PM

I purposely left that obvious gargantuan hole of a proposition for someone to step into, and see pete burning from ground level or lower, so to speak. Hello down here DB.

Why would anyone WANT to go to jail? That is preposterous!

I have no quarrel with Irwin Schiff. He is a tax protestor, up to and including not paying taxes. According to Judge Napolitano, that is wrong and would not condone it. He also said that tax was theft. Now these 2 statements, taken together, mean something. And it does not mean be prepared to go to jail. I am surely glad I do not live in the USA. Maybe I need to move to Greece! Irwin is the opposite of the suicide bomber joke, where he calls in sick that day. Irwin performed Hari-Kari on himself. I feel sorry for him, but I did not slime him in my piece.

The aspersion I cast at Peter Schiff and his aspirations to the US Senate are as follows:

I followed him for quite a while on his web site; biting commentary, hub of the daily happenings in the MMM. I went there multiple times every day, for the pulse on the daily parade of incessant noise; long before I rang the doorbell @ the Daily.

The only thing that made me a little queasy about his web site was that he promoted New Zealand investments (baah!), and said to get out of the future crashing USD (like lambs to the slaughter). But he lived in the USA. I will get back to this later.

Unbeknownst to me as to what he was actually doing, his crescendo of visibility began. A big YouTube campaign, many MMM appearances, and front office material to boot (according to my wife [or husband]); this was a deliberate pattern.

Then he ran for congress! You know the current memes? His obviously good and sound logic is now being touted as the "right thing to do" all of a sudden. He fits right in like a cold hand in a warm glove on that Austerity meme, don't you think?

Now, here's the crux of the matter, and it is a little philosphical. If my sentence length gets too long, sorry:

Anybody knows, who has fully read between the rules of life, that it is a conscious decision to join that humanitarian rat race, as it only gets you lots of food, then bitten badly, unless you know King Rat (excludes Ron Paul). Therefore, he is consciously attempting to join his Faja (Austin Powers sub-character, Goldmember, dutch voice inflection) in the big house, because that is where he knows he will end up unless he plays their game. Anything less than fully conscious behaviour is just reaching the same greedy conclusion, using shorthand. Ah, the immortality of youth! This time it will be different.

He is not an insider (his money is not old money), therefore he is done like dinner if he gets in; he will either capitulate to them or eventually join his Faja. They will eventually "do" him like having a Buffett for lunch. Just for fun.

What triggered my double-take at the time he began to run was that if New Zealand is so good, why didn't he move there, like Jim Rogers did with his family in Singapore? Why would Peter Schiff who slimes the USD, who is completely "out of the US dollar", suddenly want to help the country that is burning its bridges?

Selfishness, bribery, sex and greed. Same as always.

If he wants to avoid the big house, then he needs to play the game, but that is not going to help him in a sting operation like Conrad Black had done to him a few years ago.

Changes are not made out in the open, but invisibly.

But he could lose, plus I could be wrong, but I think not, otherwise I would not have written it. That is the nice thing about being me. No-one cares about Weeble and his nonsensical prose, linking to Austin Powers over a single fookin word and a concept I did not agreed with. Laffer was shafted, as he was not told of the bust before it happened, but Schiff was told in order to make him an instant Guru.

I hope this helps.

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We have known Peter for 20 years. Believe you to be wrong. He was never told anything and is as incapable of taking orders as his father, in our opinion.

How was Conrad Black stung, and why?

  Posted by William3 on 06/08/10 08:33 PM

DB -- "The Laffer Curve was, perhaps, a free-market prophylactic, protecting the powers-that-be from a larger conversation about the West's monetary and military posture."

Excellent observation. "Conservatives" can crow against tax increases, and be seen as libertarians. Media cover their struggle with "liberals." Meanwhile, the real issues of monetary policy remain hidden. Well done, DB!

  Posted by Weeble on 06/08/10 06:38 PM

To the guy that called Arthur Laffer, slightly Fibonacci-like (euphemism mine):

Economics and forecasting are an oxymoronic combination, in my opinion, much like an Austin Powers screenplay and your explicative skills.

Fighting with the Shallow Shiv over an elastic band of a pointless forecast, proves why Shallow Shiv is doing the "Yah baby" over wanting to join his Faja in the big house, except, Shallow Shiv may be paid handsomely for a while until the Love Guru stabs him in the back.

And Laffer will still be on the outside looking in, except he will be laughing now.

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Interesting post, Weeble. ...

Our take? Peter Schiff's father is in jail, basically, for disagreeing with - and agitating against - the US progressive tax code, which even mainstream politicians believe is a terrible collection mechanism. It is also likely unconstitutional in that there is plenty of evidence that it is being misapplied in some sense and that its foundational act may never have been properly ratified.

Now IRS agents are to be equipped with powerful rifles (some already carry guns) and are going to enforce health care payment mandates as well. Under President Bush, the IRS also tried to turn private citizens and corporations into collection agents by paying them a percentage of what was taken in. This is actually what Rome did toward the END of empire to collect taxes - turned to private, third-party agents.

The tax code is so complex that even paid accountants cannot understand it, nor IRS agents. Most large corporations do not pay a penny, most quasi-impoverished people do not either. Only the middle-class does and it is gradually being squeezed out of existence. The fiscal policy of the US is a disaster by any standard - though it certainly not on a par with the disaster that is US monetary policy.

Peter Schiff has pointed all this out and more in his numerous appearances on TV. Like his father, he has been outspoken and blunt, telling the truth about the US economic situation. How this makes him "shallow shiv" - if that is your aspersion (?) - is beyond us. And we are sorry that his "faja" whom we knew (if you are indeed referring to Irwin Schiff) - is in the "big house." He is an old man and he will probably die there. We don't see the humor, but maybe you do.

  Posted by TeresaE on 06/08/10 05:43 PM

The increases in taxes, regulations and mandates, all set to hit on Jan 1, 2011, are going to have one effect, and one only, eliminating the small businessman completely.

Since that small businessman has historically paid over 60% of local taxes, just what does everyone think is going to happen? Who is going to pay for the schools, roads, cops & firemen?

That be the remaining middle class.

So, let's get this straight. Fewer private sector jobs, higher local taxes, mandated health insurance, plus the financial reform, energy policy and amnesty. Throw in the debasement of our dollars and what do you get?

Maybe the Aztecs are on to something about the world as we know it disappearing in December 2012. I don't think it will "end." But Argentina, Zimbabwe and even Rome on a global scale is starting to look like the end of life as we know it.

  Posted by SP on 06/08/10 05:16 PM

The printing will continue, other wise there will be violent revolt because of higher taxes. Most people don't understand inflation, thats the beauty of it. If you want to see the future look at the past. Remember helicopter Ben? Now Benny's a good keynesian, loves good old elastic money, I am afraid this time the elastic might break and there will be no contraction, just hyper expansion.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 06/08/10 05:02 PM

DB: "We would call it a collision between the Internet and the powers-that-be."

BR: The internet is a mechanism, wresting central control (hierarchical) of information from vested "gatekeepers of truth". The peer to peer, ad-hoc nature of information creation, dissemination and collaboration now possible has forever precluded the possibility of central control of information, so long as the internet exists. As goes central control of information, so goes central control of choice, a product of information processing by intelligence.

It is actually a collision between reality and those who are aware of it versus organized fraudsters and slavers with their desire to exist at the expense of the productive without contribution.

  Posted by Weeble on 06/08/10 04:43 PM

Hey, I planted some asparagus because they are incredible – to eat. Just because the Power Elite purposely kept him out of the loop (or partial loop), so they could have the last laugh, does not make him a perennial hardy Northern early harvest vegetable. He may still have some good tips for us.

[Disclosure – this message brought to you by the Asparagus Growers Autonomous Collective of Utah]

  Posted by RecoverylessRecovery on 06/08/10 04:06 PM

Arthur Laffer has the credibility of ASPARAGUS. He made a complete and utter FOOL of himself after facing-off with Peter Schiff a few years ago, when it became quite clear that Mr Laffer does not have the slightest fooking idea about economics nor economic forecasting. Anyone who cites Laffer as a reference is ALSO clueless IMHO.

  Posted by Jason on 06/08/10 02:12 PM

Hey Bellsters, You notice the Bilderberg convention - which used to not even exist (cough cough) is now in the main stream media (I never heard of the bilderbergs until two years ago or so). I attribute this directly to bloggers and that conspiracy theory guy....hmmm what is his name - oh yeah - Alex Jones

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See article, here ...

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  Posted by Peter Underwood on 06/08/10 01:18 PM

"Posted by Clayton on 6/8/2010 4:22:56 AM

Laffer is correct in his statement that raising taxes next year will do great harm to the US economy and by extension damage the Global Economy as well."

Good post Clayton..thanks...but IMHO the system is broken beyond tinkering with taxes, the powers-that-be have lost control, period. Complex Adaptive Systems (google) have taken over, and others know it too:

There is this from analyst Gordon T Long, "We are nearing a 'phase shift' in what I will refer to as the energy level of the markets. Elliott Wave practitioners would refer to it as a "higher degree pivot." W D Gann practitioners would call it a Gann Cardinal. Economists call it a "Tipping Point." I call it a "Critical Point" or "Chaotic Transient." A trader would just call it a market melt-down or melt-up! Few alive have ever witnessed either.

Click to view link~lcmgroupe/2010/Article-
Extend_and_Pretend-Flash_Crash.htm

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We would call it a collision between the Internet and the powers-that-be.

  Posted by Victor Barney on 06/08/10 07:53 AM

Right on! I expect a Marxist-style economic collapse that is being engineered right now to take place this September with 3 1/2 years of tribulation coming called "Jacob's trouble!" Watch!

  Posted by Bill Ross on 06/08/10 07:39 AM

The tax / fiscal aspects of monetary issues resolve to factors (carrots / sticks) affecting the motivational economics determining how well the warring forces of productivity / greed survive in the legally defined and forcefully imposed artificial environment of the "official economy".

The grim reaper of "Mathematics of Rule" proves what this predatory folly has wrought and where it must lead:

http://www.cli.gs/MathematicsOfRule

What needs to be discussed and challenged is the wisdom and legitimacy of those who wield our guns, paid for and pointed at us determining "policy", "process" and "procedure", deeming us criminals should we display lack of subservience and make choices contrary to what our "masters" demand.

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