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US Jobs Aren't Coming Back

Saturday, June 26, 2010 – by Staff Report

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Biden: We Can't Recover All the Jobs Lost ... Vice President Joe Biden (left) gave a stark assessment of the economy today, telling an audience of supporters, "there's no possibility to restore 8 million jobs lost in the Great Recession." ... "We inherited a godawful mess," he said, adding there was "no way to regenerate $3 trillion that was lost. Not misplaced, lost." – AP

Dominant Social Theme: They may not be able to replace every single job but they're trying.

Free-Market Analysis: One of the hoariest dominant social themes or sub themes promoted by the power elite is that government can create jobs. It is possibly a sub theme because the dominant theme is simply that "government can do it all." In fact, the only things government can do with any modicum of efficiency are collect taxes, inflate currency and pass laws that usually have the opposite effect from what is intended. Of course this doesn't stop government pols from claiming they can create jobs when the economy becomes troubled and needs help. Here's some more from the article:

Claims for jobless benefits fell by the largest number in two months last week, but were still high enough to signal weak job growth. ... Last week the White House put out a Recovery and Reinvestment Act update claiming that between 2.2 million and 2.8 million jobs were either saved or created because of the stimulus as of March 2010. In signing the Recovery Act into law on Feb 17, 2009, Mr. Obama said the measure "will create or save 3- and-a-half million jobs over the next two years."

Peer behind the numbers claimed by the Obama administration and the questions multiply, as was pointed out in a recent Wall Street Journal article, "The Media Fall for Phony Jobs Claims." The article explained that one way the Obama administration had been able to make extravagant claims about jobs was by using the "saved or created." The US president used this phrase recently in announcing that the administration, via certain stimulus spending, had saved or created 150,000 American jobs. Obama then claimed that further job-savings programs were in the works to save another 600,000 jobs, but these numbers still pale against promises to save up to four million jobs that were made previously.

Of course, using such vague language makes it impossible to do any substantive fact-checking of claims. And there are no government or even private bureaus that track such statistics apparently. How is it possible to know whether a job has been "saved" or not? The claims are gobbledygook but the administration gets away with it because it has the bully pulpit and the media repeat the claims. Here's some more from the Journal:

If the "saved or created" formula looks brilliant, it's only because Mr. Obama and his team are not being called on their claims. And don't expect much to change. So long as the news continues to repeat the administration's line that the stimulus has already "saved or created" 150,000 jobs over a time period when the U.S. economy suffered an overall job loss 10 times that number, the White House would be insane to give up a formula that allows them to spin job losses into jobs saved.

The real reason for the downturn and loss of jobs have little to do with the Bush administration or even with the current cyclical downturn. It has everything to do with the constant inflationary measures of the mercantilist Federal Reserve and the company-killing graduated income tax that has sent companies large and small away from American shores. The combination of endless asset inflation and punitive taxation has been hollowing out America for at least a century if not longer. Regulatory "free-trade" agreements that are nothing but "managed trade" don't help either.

The American political regime of the past century has truly begun to bankrupt America. The country has lost vast amounts of manufacturing capability and even the chattering classes today speak of America's "service" economy as if this in some sense can compensate for the loss of the vital entrepreneurialism that builds the wealth of nations and individuals. Meanwhile, America's infrastructure degrades, its cities crumble, its vital middle class shrinks and companies that were founded there move offshore to grow.

Conclusion: The reasons for this ruin are clearly evident in the fiscal and monetary policies that the US has adopted over the past 100 years. To claim in any way that the Federal government is able to "save or create" jobs is truly a misleading statement given the policies that the US Federal government implemented in the 20th century. These policies in fact were supported by the larger Anglo-American power elite that has been trying to tear down the American republic since its inception in order to create a seamless US/European governmental authority. The idea that those who create fundamental policy for the US Federal government actually care about American workers, either blue collar or white collar, or want to see them succeed is a promotion, not a credible reality.




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  Posted by Dennis Johnson on 07/02/10 01:27 PM

It would be very interesting if the Daily Bell would have an interview with Hugo Salinas Price, the billionaire Mexican businessman. Mr. Price has a solution to the global financial mess that is suprising simple.

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Mr. Price's article is a fairly long read, but I highly recommend it!

Reply from The Daily Bell

Here is the interview we did with Hugo Salinas Price ...

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  Posted by Weeble on 07/01/10 12:31 AM

Brad, you nailed it. Except for the false premises. But Laffer is one of the good guys (in my humble opinion).

  Posted by Brad on 06/30/10 11:46 AM

Why can't we look to the problems of the past and initiate those solutions for the problems today. Jimmy Carter had the country in a total mess and Ronald Reagan lowered taxes and created something like 8 million jobs. Instead it looks like we are using the same solutions we used that got us into the great depression. We could easily get ourselves out of this mess if we listened to Reagans economic adviser Dr. Arthur Laffer but this administration would never use ideas like his because it goes against everything they believe in. Instead they just give up and we pay the price for their arrogance and ignorance.

  Posted by Victor Barney on 06/28/10 07:30 AM

America is "Israel" through the seed of Joseph, promised "race"(civil power) not "grace"(promise of the messiah) as given Judah! While I'm at it; according to the time-table set in the set-apart "Hebrew" Scriptures(Hebrew is the only inspired language(Zeph. 3:9). Furthermore, "Yahweh" even spoke to Paul(Acts 26:14) in Hebrew, not Greek, Latin, or even English. Lastly, according to the Hebrew Scripture our economy will not begin to turn around until early in 2012! Watch!

  Posted by Frank on 06/27/10 11:14 PM

Since we're going down as a country, wouldn't it be entertaining at least, to have Biden as our President, and invite George Bush back as his V.P.? What FUN! They could appoint Obama as economics "czar". Whoo boy! THAT would be a knee-slapper. Kind of like "European Hell", where the English are the cooks, the Germans are the police, etc.

  Posted by TeresaE on 06/27/10 05:48 PM

Biden has a ton of nerve. Seems to me that he sat in Congress when every job/small-business killing bill has been written and passed into law for decades.

Amazing how politicians campaign on their "records" until reality hits home and the "unintended" consequences prove to be devastating. Then they announce how they were powerless and had nothing to do with the mess. Biden is as much at fault for this mess, as is every other member of Congress that created the mess we are in now. And, this man couldn't create a self-supporting/sustaining job to save his life. Anything he has to say is meaningless.

  Posted by IndianaJohn on 06/27/10 05:14 PM

Lock Piatt on 6/26/2010 11:04:54 AM

You betcha, the most sensible post here. Be sure to include null and void all derivatives. That will starve a lot of parasites.

  Posted by JT on 06/27/10 05:00 PM

Oh yeah.. boneheads at Daily Bell. I never said Americans would work harder. Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

Open your ears and listen. I said... INNOVATE our way to prosperity. Actually have a clean environment while having a vibrant and booming economy. And all you people with capital and running corporations... quit whining so much.

Again, I never said WORK HARDER. You guys are thick. Typical modern day Americans... attack the other side of the political isle and complain about how terrible everything is and how hard it is.

For God's sake, generations before us faced much more trying circumstances than continually falling corporate tax rates and pathetic environmental laws that barely did the job of making sure we leave a descent planet to future generations. Damn, what is wrong with people.

Pathetic, I tell you. Pathetic.

Reply from The Daily Bell

"INNOVATE our way to prosperity."

Why should Americans have to innovate their way around their own government?

  Posted by JT on 06/27/10 04:54 PM

Just more "whoa is me" mentality. Are we so stupid that we can't run a successful economy while maintaining a clean environment? I mean, how utterly incompetent are we?

And do we need taxes to just keep going down down down for corporations and the wealthy capitalists to contribute to society? Ok.... all you capitalists need to spit the pacifiers out of your mouths, quit whining and put your capital to work.

And all you innovators, get out there and innovate. Oh no, that's right... taxes are too high! (even though for corporations and capital they've been going down for decades) and regulations are too strict. A country of selfish whiners. So sad. Let's quit complaining all the time and get er done!

  Posted by Ranger on 06/27/10 03:57 PM

Yes, vote Obama out--that will solve the problem. Just like the retirement of all his socialist predecessors: Roosevelt, Truman, Eisenhaur, Kennedy, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush ushered in prosperity, liberty, and peace.

Or perhapes you noticed the parade of death, extortion, lies, and economic destruction has grown like a cancer while the American middle class is turned into a grasping herd of sheep bleating for their government check.

The intense stupidity and ignorance of the voter guarantees the perpetuation of the staus quo. 50 million abortions is not the mark of a country that is healthy--it is national suicide.

  Posted by JT on 06/27/10 03:39 PM

Americans should stop being cry babies. The effective corporate tax rate in the US is astonishingly low. It's been dropping for years. Taxes on the providers of capital have been dropping for years. But they're such frickin babies they need even lower taxes and more loopholes. It's pathetic.

There are thousands of vacant factory spaces all over the country. If environmental laws are tough and restrictive, smart innovators need to figure out how to produce things that comply. Instead of crying about how terrible everything is we should put a sock in it and get to work innovating our way out of this.

What a bunch of babies we've become... taxes are too high, restrictions are too tough... look at how easy it is to do business in China. Don't mind that they're swimming in a sea of toxic output to make stuff to fill our store shelves.

Come on people, grow up, get tough, and get the job done. It's just completely ridiculous and pathetic to think that Americans can't find a way to rebuild our manufacturing base because taxes are too high and environmental restrictions are too tough. Give me a break!

Reply from The Daily Bell

"It's just completely ridiculous and pathetic to think that Americans can't find a way to rebuild our manufacturing base because taxes are too high and environmental restrictions are too tough."

The higher the taxes, the more Draconian the environmental restrictions, the harder Americans will work?

  Posted by Dogster on 06/27/10 02:09 PM

As much as I enjoyed your interview of 4/18/2010, I must fault you a bit for failing to discuss with Selgin his most important idea ie the importance of deflationary money policy to counteract rising productivity. My link above takes you straight to Selgin's discussion of the subject, if you would be so kind as to repair the link.

  Posted by Dogster on 06/27/10 12:40 PM

You need to interview George Selgin ASAP

Click to view link~selgin/deflation.html

Since 1987, he has been advocating monetary deflation as appropriate for growing productivity.

Michael Hudson comes tantalizingly close to showing an understanding of this concept, but he doesn't come out and say it. A gradual monetary deflation would restore the world to a path of milk and honey without Hudson's wacky taxation/property seizure schemes. I develop the concept more fully at George Selgin and deflation Click to view link

Reply from The Daily Bell

Here is our Selgin interview

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  Posted by o on 06/27/10 12:29 PM

3 1/2 T simply, end the war racketeers, go gold base, free market.

  Posted by Rob Townsend on 06/27/10 10:14 AM

The jobs are not coming back because of envirometal agreements made under agenda 21 each country has analotment of carbon every job that produces anything will have a carbon value given to it and probably even your breath, your pets, your farm animals,

you had better wake up and study this const destroying agreement under the guise of sustainability both parties have advanced the goals of agenda 21.

this ressesion was a result of ag 21 the states where bankrupt by unfunded mandates on purpose those that took the bail out monies sold your const rights by advancing agenda 21 goals through the laws that they have passed some kicked in last jan most 3 5 10 years from now.

  Posted by Clayton on 06/27/10 04:42 AM

Jobs are difficult to come by at the moment, but Work is another matter. Today, people tend to be looking for a "Job." Once upon a time, people were looking for "Work." Biden is stating something accurate, "Jobs" are for the most part gone. However, work is abundant. It is all around us. What is needed is to remove the regulatory obstacles to doing it, and pricing it at level that is in accord with what the market for labor is willing to pay.

As soon as those two conditions have been correctly dealt with, the Great Recession will be over and a condition of hopefulness and prosperity will return. I personally provided employment for over a dozen people for a period of three days this week, but I did not create a single "JOB."

I have work to be done, and as a previous saver, I have funds to offer someone to do it. But they must be prepared to work and at the price offered. The person seeking a Job is not going to come to my door and is most likely going to have to look to the Government, or businesses that behave in a governmental manner.

  Posted by John Acord on 06/27/10 04:06 AM

@Acudoc

"Deportation of all professing Muslims, no. The United States is a bastion of the right of the individual to worship in any way he or she chooses."

True, but one has to understand that Islam is not a religion but an oppressive social/political organization responsible for incredible violence and oppression for the past 1300 years. The Koran is a terrorist handbook and all practitioners of this cult are waging war against western civilization. Islam is a cancer on the body politic and must be isolated.

As for the Chinese workers that would be diplaced by a slowing of imports from Asia, you need to understand that 95% of them are employed as slave labor with the profits accruing to oligarchies hostile to the West.

Reply from The Daily Bell

"True, but one has to understand that Islam is not a religion but an oppressive social/political organization responsible for incredible violence and oppression for the past 1300 years."

Versus Protestantism, Catholicism, Hindu-ism, etc.?

The only time a religion can be truly oppressive is when it functions as a theocratic element of the state. Without state control, people are free to walk away from a religion if they wish. And that includes the Muslim religion.


  Posted by Acudoc on 06/27/10 12:53 AM

A reply to John Acord: I can agree with many of your points.

Free market government, yes - if you mean a government that protects property rights and prosecutes against theft and breach of contract.

A gold Euro, yes.

A gold Dollar, yes (or a silver dollar).

Immediate withdrawal from the Middle East, yes.

A 75% tax on all Asian imports, no. Why discriminate against PRODUCERS anywhere? Monetary policy and the management of a debt-based currency by a fractional-reserve monopoly of banks has driven up the costs of production in America and Europe insidiously and inexorably, forcing producers to outsource labor to areas where people are relatively less well-off materially. Why punitively punish Asians for the sins of Western politicians and fiat money, fractional-reserve bankers?

Deportation of all professing Muslims, no. The United States is a bastion of the right of the individual to worship in any way he or she chooses.

Breaking up of big banks and selling their assets to smaller community banks, no. I hate the banksters with more vehemence than 95% of the population, but I think that a simpler solution is at hand, with much less penchant for violence, namely the repeal of legal tender laws and the allowance of free banking.

The seizure of assets is a violent act and the question immediately arises: what constitutes a big bank to be broken up and a small bank to be rewarded? The banking system is a fraudulent mess of immense proportions, backed up by fraudulent political structures, and I don't think it can be regulated out of its present existence, but it can be supplanted relatively easily by new systems of money as people become more aware of viable alternatives.

I am thinking here of one possibility: internet banks based on gold grams and the absence of leveraging, with exchange transactions done electronically.

  Posted by Gordon Maddox on 06/26/10 10:35 PM

Actually the government could facilitate the creation of jobs:

1. Eliminate all minimum wage laws.
2. Nullify all references to wages and salaries in all labor contracts.
3. Freeze the pay level of every government employee for five to ten years.
4. Allow everyone to use whatever they choose as money.

Some quick results: Firms would lower pay rates and hire more
employes. Foreign firms selling to the U.S. would have to own plants in the U.S. to compete with American-made products. It is
possible the U.S. might then need all the undocumented workers!

Reply from The Daily Bell

This wouldn't be a facilitation in our view so much as a roll back. But your points are succinct and well-taken.

  Posted by Cossack55 on 06/26/10 07:47 PM

@Dave Narby

$12 oil was as recent as the 80s. I believe we were using FRNs at that time. "Clearly the problem isn't the availability of cheap energy". Really. Been to the GoM lately. Ever heard of the term Fracking. Ever light your tapwater. Yes energy will be cheap, as soon as we get rid of those pesky extra 6 billion humans.

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