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Beginning of the End of the Afghan War?

Friday, July 09, 2010 – by Staff Report

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Ann Coulter vs. Bill Kristol: Beginnings of a Conservative Schism? ... Ann Coulter's recent column, "Bill Kristol Must Resign" may have officially kicked off the next great schism within the conservative movement. At issue is the war in Afghanistan – and, more specifically, whether Republicans should support President Obama's approach to a conflict that has now lasted for Americans longer than World War II. Mocking neoconservatives, Coulter wrote: "Bill Kristol [editor of The Weekly Standard] and Liz Cheney have demanded that [Michael] Steele (left) resign as head of the RNC for saying Afghanistan is now Obama's war – and a badly thought-out one at that. (Didn't liberals warn us that neoconservatives want permanent war?)" Coulter failed at convincing Kristol to resign – she never says from what. In fact, channeling Michael Steele, who vows to stay on as party chief, Kristol responded, saying, "I ain't going anywhere." But she may have succeeded at advancing a major debate. – Politics Daily

Dominant Social Theme: Two sides to every war?

Free-Market Analysis: This is very interesting news. Ann Coulter never met a Republican president or a Republican politician for that matter about whom she couldn't find something nice to say. Coulter offers us the kind of public intellectual that America currently can support, a polarizing figure with a simplistic world-view that is either socialist or authoritarian (and Coulter obviously leans toward the latter). But now she has come out with a column blasting one of her own, Bill Kristol, a pre-eminent Neo-Conservative and founder and editor of the political magazine The Weekly Standard.

We find this significant. We are not sure of Coulter's motives here or why she decided to defend the head of the RNC, Michael Steele. What we do notice generally is that when a rhetorical shift is required in most Western countries, a statement from a prominent individual reconfigures the "goal posts." This is a Hegelian approach to the national dialectic – one that includes both a thesis and antithesis to create a new synthesis.

Without trying to be cynical about Coulter's motives – or even whether the column was entirely her idea – we would point out that Republican National Committee Chairman, Michael Steele, expressed an unusual interpretation of the relationship between Barack Obama and the war in Afghanistan at a Connecticut fundraiser Thursday. Look at the video of Michael Steele's remarks – click here to view – and ponder how "off the cuff" they seem. They actually seem fairly well thought-out. Steele went on for quite a while about Afghanistan and left a clear impression that his statements were far more than casually thrown-together . Something is changing.

And now there is Coulter. Coulter's point apparently is that the current war in Afghanistan HAS turned into President Barack Obama's war and that President George Bush, having seen the problems inherent in an ongoing Afghanistan war, opted to treat it after a point as a kind of police action and concentrate his firepower on Iraq. From Coulter's point of view, Iraq was a good war, one that the US could win because there was a core of smart, civilized young people, youthful urban sophisticates, available to build a modern political system.

The world-view that Coulter propounds is really a fairly simple one. She believes, as she writes in her latest (and possibly most controversial column), that the "irreducible requirements of Republicanism were being for life, small government and a strong national defense." She then adds the kicker, "but I guess permanent war is on the platter now, too." This is an astonishing statement, one we never thought we'd see issue from the pen of Coulter. Here's some more from the Coulter article itself:

In the entire seven-year course of the Afghanistan war under Bush, from October 2001 to January 2009, 625 American soldiers were killed. In 18 short months, Obama has nearly doubled that number to 1,124 Americans killed. Republicans used to think seriously about deploying the military. President Eisenhower sent aid to South Vietnam, but said he could not "conceive of a greater tragedy" for America than getting heavily involved there.

As Michael Steele correctly noted, every great power that's tried to stage an all-out war in Afghanistan has gotten its ass handed to it. Everyone knows it's not worth the trouble and resources to take a nation of rocks and brigands. Based on Obama's rules of engagement for our troops in Afghanistan, we're apparently not even fighting a war. The greatest fighting force in the world is building vocational schools and distributing cheese crackers to children.

There's even talk of giving soldiers medals for NOT shooting people, which I gather will be awarded posthumously. Naomi Campbell is rougher with her assistants than our troops are allowed to be with Taliban fighters. But now I hear it is the official policy of the Republican Party to be for all wars, irrespective of our national interest. What if Obama decides to invade England because he's still ticked off about that Churchill bust? Can Michael Steele and I object to that? Or would that demoralize the troops?

Our troops are the most magnificent in the world, but they're not the ones setting military policy. The president is – and he's basing his war strategy on the chants of Moveon.org cretins. Nonetheless, Bill Kristol and Liz Cheney have demanded that Steele resign as head of the RNC for saying Afghanistan is now Obama's war – and a badly thought-out one at that. (Didn't liberals warn us that neoconservatives want permanent war?) ...

Of course, if Kristol is writing the rules for being a Republican, we're all going to have to get on board for amnesty and a "National Greatness Project," too – other Kristol ideas for the Republican Party. Also, John McCain. Kristol was an early backer of McCain for president – and look how great that turned out! Inasmuch as demanding resignations is another new Republican position, here's mine: Bill Kristol and Liz Cheney must resign immediately.

Perhaps we are seeing the beginnings of a rhetorical repositioning here. It is certainly possible that the powers-that-be might be contemplating a climb-down over Afghanistan. If so, this would be a remarkable step and one that would save numerous American lives and give the war-torn country of Afghanistan the potential for a little peace.

Of course there remain powerful forces arrayed on the other side of this perspective. The most recent argument against disengagement comes from an emergent position that the Pashtun resistance to American and NATO forces is not just partially supported by Pakistan but is entirely run through Pakistan and its intelligence agency, ISI. The idea behind this perspective is that the dominant Punjabi ethnic element of Pakistan is not only interested in controlling Afghanistan but in keeping it (and the Pashtuns) weak and divided.

According to this argument, America must not only stay in Afghanistan, but must defeat the Taliban and, in a sense, as well, the ethnic Punjabis running the war in Pakistan. This point of view is now being promulgated via articles on such leftist forums as the Huffington Post. It is also presumably the reason why the US army has been attempting to "win over" Pashtuns, believing that the Pashtuns might prefer NATO to the Pakistan-supported Taliban.

This latter point of view, certainly further complicates disengagement. However, to believe it, we would have to believe that the Pashtuns are merely pawns in a larger chess match between the Punjabi Pakistanis and NATO forces. It turns the Pashtuns, who have fought for a Pashtun nation repeatedly over the centuries, into merely peaceful observers (of their own destruction) who are simply seeking American protection.

Conclusion: Anyone who looks at the situation via a larger historical context must grant that the Pashtuns have fought for their land and traditions in the past. The idea that the Pashtuns are mere manipulated tools of the Punjabis seems a bit simplistic. What is more likely is that certain Pashtun elements are using Punjabi support, just as the Punjabis are using the Pashtuns to fight a back door war against the West. Within this context, an emergent perspective that the West ought to rid itself of this endless conflict is probably a sensible one. Certainly, America's Founding Fathers counseled against "foreign entanglements" for a reason.




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  Posted by Victor Barney on 07/10/10 11:34 AM

I don't know about Afghanistan, except that is ungovernable throughout history and subjected to various warlords; but I do know through the set-apart bible that in the end days "Israel," by the son of Joseph, not Judah, completely destroys it's brother Edom, which is Turkey today. Watch!

  Posted by Rev JW on 07/10/10 03:27 AM

For those who have not already discovered the notion of "Chaostan", perhaps you will find the insights at

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compelling reasons for the US to withdraw from wars in this region.

  Posted by William3 on 07/09/10 11:08 PM

This action may be simply a way to create a Republican counter position to Democrats' support for the war, for the November elections, and to make the Republicans appear to be more sensitive to public desires to get out.

The neo-conservative Republican support for the war is solid. Also Brzezinski and Kissinger -- solid Elite backers -- recently made independent statements to support the importance of eliminating deadlines for withdrawal. And of course we have a whole new military leadership recently installed in Afghanistan.

This action is indeed strange, but it may be driven by domestic politics, not global strategic direction.

Reply from The Daily Bell

It is hard to be a meme watcher! More time is likely needed to ascertain what is really going on ...

  Posted by Lila Rajiva on 07/09/10 08:58 PM

It is no accident that Steele made the comment.

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Yes! Exactly. The video makes it clear. His thoughts were well thought out, cogent. The narrative flowed quite smoothly And then Coulter follows up.

  Posted by John Danforth on 07/09/10 06:05 PM

I distinctly remember suffering through the debate between the equally insufferable McCain and Obama, and hearing Obama try to stake out a 'progressive' position on the Permanent War. In essence, his message was that we were bogged down in one, and we should pull out and concentrate on the other. (To me, neither one made any logical sense, meaning that my government was not acting out my wishes nor acting in my interest.)

Further, this was in addition to multiple blunt statements (elsewhere) in which Obama promised to bring the troops home.

Steele told the plainly obvious truth (if accidentally). It seems obvious to me that the trickle of public realization is turning to a flood. In rushing to condemn him, perhaps the neocons went just a little too far out on their own limbs. Perhaps Coulter simply recognized how silly they sounded, calling for the man's head for stating the obvious.

Perhaps she was simply perceptive enough to see where this will likely end up and decided to shoot the first arrow rather than be the last one to pile on. If that's her strategy, I'd say she got it right, and deserves credit for that. I also think that if she perceived the wind blowing the other way, she would tilt the other way, never having been accused of acting from principle. Still, she has a talent, and I think it served her well this time.

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We think Steele's comments were no accident.

  Posted by Alan on 07/09/10 04:56 PM

Mmm. Kristol is the son of the founder of the neo-conservatives who in the 1960s suddenly decided he was no longer a leading Trotskyite and moved over to the other extreme. By the time of the 2000 election they had taken over the Republican Party and GW was their man.

Their main think tank was the PNAC. The neo-cons are dominated by zionist Jews and otherwise consist of enthusiastic Christian zionists. Their well known document of August 2000 called for the USA to use its military might to attack Adghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria and NK. For this a new "Pearl Harbour" would be needed.

After all the trouble they have gone to to get the USA involved in Iraq and Afghanistan one cannot imagine that they will go away quietly into the sunset or are the troops merely to be diverted to the next war in Iran?

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You seem to infer a connection between the reserve dollar and the attacks. We are not sure it is that simple.

  Posted by Bluebird on 07/09/10 02:27 PM

I think a lot of the problem is both sides are dependent upon the youth as a huge voting block. The things the Republican party stood for in the past has no value in today's world. Who among them wants God anymore? This will only get worse. Ann fires up the youth, and one only needs to read the feedback to see the youth love her. They are not in the Republican party because of its values, but because they want to keep their guns and may not like Obama. This kind of commentator is very effective in drawing those youth into the elite's web. Just my opinion.

  Posted by Bill on 07/09/10 01:47 PM

In my opinion, Coulter is a blind voice for the Elite and always has been. It certainly pays her bills.

  Posted by Adrian W. on 07/09/10 12:40 PM

A bunch of turncoats A.K.A. politicians. Whatever suit serves the political environment for the moment. No room nor time to be ashamed of their hypocritical actions/rhetoric. The end justifies the means.

"Pin the tail on the Donkey" game is now being played out in Washington. But which donkey, indeed?Click to view linkan seems to be looming larger than life...Ahh! Onward and upward with war and the "elite's" agendas. There's still wishful thinking that the money won't run out too quickly. Then what?

  Posted by Edward Moyer on 07/09/10 12:25 PM

Ann Coulter is many things, a polemical commentator is one of them, an intellectual is not.

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She is what passes for an intellectual in the American right/left debate.

  Posted by SHess on 07/09/10 10:40 AM

Ann Coulter is right. Republicans are too quick to rub off the "Neo-Conservatives", causing a split in the Republican Party. Too many Republicans are followers of the "Obama Agenda". If the U.S. Constitution isn't good enough for the Republican Party, then there is little hope for the "People of the United States of America".

  Posted by Laura K on 07/09/10 10:28 AM

I am a little bit disappointed with the dominant social theme of today MB. It should read: TWO POLITICAL SIDES OF EVERY WAR.

This is a merely political rhetoric from both sides. First, it was the Irak-Bush war where liberals and democrats where chastising the republicans for getting US in Irak with no reason.

Well, now we see the same instance with Michael Steel when criticizing the war in Afghanistan and calling it the Obama war. Bottom line, we are approaching elections soon and this is not randomly done by Steel.

Do not get me wrong, Steel is doing what a "neo"politician is meant to do... politicize a situation to get advantage of it. BTW, this "neo" terminology is just BS. On the other hand, Ann is just a lovely political stirrer. I just love the fact that every time she speaks up, she gets what she wants. That is, controversy. I do give her a full credit for it.

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Agree, it was not random.

  Posted by Padremike on 07/09/10 08:43 AM

The big stink in Michael Steel stating that Afghanistan is Obama's war is the realization that Obama will not be able to blame George Bush. Horror of horrors! But the Republicans, true to form, put Steel in the middle of their stategic circular firing squad and commense firing.

As for Ann Coulter I enjoyed her article and I concur. I would, however, rather read her works than listen to her. Sometimes her voice sounds like a bagpipe in a blender but that is being petty which is something I do much too well. All in all, with everything else that is happening around us daily, the Michael Steel incident is nada! It's choaking on pissants and swallowing elephants and camels.

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We think the rhetoric has begun to shift.

  Posted by Stas on 07/09/10 08:34 AM

Proverb: when two brothers are fighting the enemy will conquer both.
We are asinine in having this war going on, 6,000 miles away, for more than 10 years.
The muslims are thrying to MILK us and DIVIDE us.

The british, the russians and the macedonians tried for centuries to conquer the mountain tribes.
Get out, the real enemy is much closed at out borders; the enemy Tojan horse is in Washington D.C.
Get rid of Barack Soetoro before he destroies US.

  Posted by RMulli on 07/09/10 08:21 AM

I would offer that the "Big Tent" is getting a little bigger. Although the bulk of Tea Party folks will vote Republican if given a choice, the Libertarians (an ever growing lot) and Independents are the target. The lines are blurred in Afghanistan; other than the enormous mineral find, which could not be validated for years to come, the American public is not sure of its role there. Moving the disapproval rating up as far as possible provides some momentum going into election season.

  Posted by Mpresley on 07/09/10 07:05 AM

Michael Steele is who he is, but I don't fault him for it. It is not his fault that he is symptomatic of what the mainstream Republicans imagine--something my Chinese wife calls "willing-thinking." If they put out an outwardly "diverse" face, then "diverse people" will naturally want to vote Republican. How foolish. As if Republicans can ever out pander Democrats.

However, even a man as politically and intellectually mediocre as Steele can see the stupidity of fighting in Afghanistan, and for that I commend him for speaking out. This also underscores a fact that, if we believe Republicans are not intrinsically stupid (an idea that cannot, out of hand, be discounted), then they must have another, unspoken motive in all of this.

As far as Coulter goes? She always came across as a quasi-sexually charged opportunist; a Republican (or, more accurately, an anti-Democrat) hack. I can live with sincere opportunism. Finally, the anti-war (Bush lied, men died) MSM have mostly forgotten the war, now that their black political messiah is running down the country.

  Posted by Boatman on 07/09/10 06:14 AM

Other than the wars, i'll take ann n bill over obozo n nancy.

but i realize that ain't saying nuttin.