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Irish emigration soars as Celtic Tiger's cubs hunt for jobs ... The number of people leaving the Republic has swelled far beyond those of every other country in the European Union, says research. An estimated 40,000 people emigrated last year, according to the EU's statistics office, Eurostat, a rate almost twice as high as that of Lithuania, the next most affected country. It is expected the flow may worsen as the Republic faces years of severe financial difficulties. A research institute has warned that 200,000 people, in a country of 4.5 million, may be forced to emigrate by 2015 if job opportunities do not improve. – Belfast Telegraph
Dominant Social Theme: A sad ending to a notable economic resurgence.
Free-Market Analysis: Did the aggregate Irish populace see this coming? It was not so long ago that the Irish voted twice to provide the EU with additional powers that EU leaders had hoped to achieve via the passage of a constitution. When the French along with a few other countries voted against the constitution, Euro-crats repackaged it as a "treaty" and avoided the electorate altogether except in Ireland.
What was the dominant social theme? Perhaps it was that the EU itself was such a monumental step forward for those who live in Europe, that those who didn't see it simply couldn't be allowed to stand in the way of the progress that the EU offered to all. Of course, these days, that progress is less easy to discern and the Irish themselves have woken up to the downside of the EU and many have apparently made the decision to leave it. Since at this point, Ireland cannot formally leave the EU, people themselves are taking "human action" and leaving on their own. They are emigrating.
Remember the big to-do? The Irish voted against the Lisbon Treaty and suddenly the forward momentum of the EU was halted. It looked as if it really might fall back toward being something along the lines of what had been promised initially, a free-trade zone and not an empire-in-waiting. Alas, it was not to be. Amazingly, the Treaty was sent back to the Irish for a second vote.
There was no real rationale for a second vote. It was simply determined that the Irish had voted wrongly the first time. And with the economy collapsing around their heads, the Irish were told to vote again and that a pro-EU was both expected and necessary. The Irish political elite threw its entire weight behind the Treaty and the poor Irish were virtually bombarded with pro-EU propaganda and sudden (ephemeral) surges of cash. Eventually, the Irish ratified the treaty, which put it into effect for the whole of Europe.
Was it the correct decision? Post-crisis reporting tends to indicate that EU powers have been used to further empower wealthy EU banks while generating severe "austerity" measures for much of Europe. And what have the Irish gotten out of it? Well, this nation of nearly five million was heralded as the Celtic Tiger throughout the 2000s. EU money flowed freely into Ireland and a real-estate boom fueled the economy. But when the financial crisis became severe, the Irish economy collapsed along with the rest of Southern European prosperity. Here is a fairly good summary of where the Irish are at now from the alternative Internet-based news organization Spiked Online:
After two decades of rapid but uneven growth, the country's economy crashed and burned along with the rest of the world following the credit crisis. The result has been one of the harshest austerity programmes in Europe. Public spending has been slashed, tax has risen, the banks have been bailed-out, and a controversial 'bad bank' scheme – the National Asset Management Agency (Nama) – was created to buy delinquent property debts from the country's financial institutions. All of this has been done in order to prove the county is a 'good financial citizen'. Seemingly the plan is working. Accountancy firm Ernst and Young has announced that the citizens of Ireland are about to enjoy a recovery. The snag is, it will be 'jobless'. Just what is a jobless recovery, you ask? The answer is simple: a decade of pain.
In the wake of the collapse, several factors have become clearer. First of all, it is fairly obvious that the EU was basically bribing European countries to join the EU. Most EU countries were not in fact economically viable if strict EU budgetary rules were to be met. Thus it was that EU leaders began to offer additional monies, often in the billions, to the various governments for purposes of building up prosperity and paying down debts.
The political and business elites of the various countries were delighted to take the money, which probably (human nature being what it is) went straight-away into various pockets. In return, the elites "cooked" the books, showing the EU what it wanted to see – that progress was being made and that various economies were growing both less profligate and more profitable. In reality, nothing had changed. The countries were as ill-run and corrupt as ever, but with the misleading statistics in place, the EU could welcome in another state.
The cynical calculation was that the EU could manage any fallout from the false-pretenses under which these countries were joining. When a downturn came, as one would inevitably come, those running the EU from behind the scenes were confident that the emergency itself would yield a solution. From chaos comes order, etc. The only problem with this remedy was that it didn't anticipate the severity of the downturn or the anger of citizens who woke to find their countries basically bankrupt and their options, under the new EU charter fairly limited.
This is where the Irish are today. As Spiked puts it, "Amid all the uncertainty facing the Irish public, two things are certain: a jobless recovery is no recovery at all and political leadership, from any quarter, is entirely absent."
The money from the EU is long gone, vanished into the Irish ruling class' pockets, just as similar money has enriched the ruling classes of Portugal, Spain, Greece, Italy, etc. The Irish themselves enjoyed some prosperity in the 2000s thanks to the general boom but now the banks are bust, real estate continues its decline and even tourism is down despite the falling euro.
The EU was foisted on Europe as a kind of subterfuge. At almost every stage, EU power and influence has been gained without truthfulness as to what the Brussels socialists actually have in mind. The EU was supposed to be a free-trade zone, but over time it has become obvious that Euro-crats have planned all along to turn "Europe" into a nation of 500 million strong – whether or not those millions wanted such a vast state.
So many promises were made. The reality was that the many states of Europe would be able to compete more powerfully if they were homogenized. In truth this is a hollow argument. Countries like Switzerland and even tiny Monaco can compete in a large and unruly world by finding niches. The market itself will determine the industrial strategies – and people not nations will provide the creativity and industry to fill them. The idea that one must be part of a kind of political conglomerate to survive is not only incorrect but horribly damaging.
Certainly, the promise of the EU has not turned out well for the Irish who, only a year after their monumental vote to give the EU more power, are turning their collective backs on their own country. So many promises were made to the Irish, among other states, to ensure that a commitment to the EU was firmly entrenched prior to the expected downturn. Now that wealth has turned to dross, anger engulfs the PIGS, the countries that line the EU's Southern flank. Greece is aflame with anger and the mood is not much more pleasant in Spain, Portugal, etc.
In Ireland, there have been some protests but leadership is seen as so compromised and corrupt that little in terms of genuine direction has emerged – either from the political class or the public sector. Young Irish have thus begun to do what the Irish have done in the past: Emigrate. Rather than live through a decade of "austerity," they are leaving the erstwhile "Celtic Tiger," which remains tightly bound to the EU, an increasingly ineffective and corrupt colossus.
The Irish have foregone protest for the moment; youth is simply voting with its feet. But reports have it that the governing Fianna Fail party, which led the charge for the Lisbon Treaty ratification, will soon be toppled. Of course this is cold comfort. As Spiked points out: "Elite opinion, whether represented by the governing Fianna Fail and Green parties or the opposition Fine Gael and Labour ... does operate within an indescribably narrow ideological framework. In Ireland, there really is no alternative."
Conclusion: If the crisis persists, we would wonder if a wave of real political change will begin to sweep over Europe, one focused on a growing discontent with the EU itself. Of course, with the Lisbon Treaty in force, it would seem the die has been cast: the EU's power grows despite the swelling disaffection. It clings to life despite the corruption and increased despotism blighting the countries that have tied themselves to its prospects – reducing the fortunes of those who have joined. Can it yet end well?
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Posted by Rory on 08/05/10 08:26 AM
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/martina-devlin/martina-devlin-wake-up-and-save-this-rotting-republic-of-greed-2284658.html
I strongly believe that the vast majority of EEC citizens have next to no knowledge or insight into how their Community works; not to mention the machinations and long term goals of this Organisation. Few of our politicians (aside from MEPs), have any inkling either, I imagine.
Citizens of the various countries have their hands full trying to cope, deal with and understand their own political systems, scandals and problems at home without trying to fathom the intrigue and politics of the colossus that is now the European Community. Can anyone blame them! Until recently we have all had to rely on our Media to hopefully investigate and report such details to us. This was a fact of life. Now however, we are lucky to have the Internet at our disposal where we can try to search out the truth...difficult as that may be at times.
Sites such as David Bell are a great way to educate and enlighten people and more of the same is what is badly needed. Many people unfortunately lack the time or have not got the interest to bother themselves with anything that may require them to question their own beliefs and opinions. The thought of having to do this makes some people very uncomfortable. They would prefer not to know rather than being bothered by having to find out for themselves if something is true or false.
It is human nature to think this way no doubt. However, it greatly strengthens the hands of those that hope to gain from our lazy dumbed-down consciousness through policies and actions that are detrimental to the majority of us and to their benefit.
The dumbing-down is par for the course and is happening now on a global scale. With few exceptions, only the news that the elite wants or wishes to be heard is on offer through the main media outlets (which they control). This is particularly true in the USA.
So is the EEC all above board and democratically run! Are major decisions taken and policies made on a democratic and free basis by elected representatives! Are these policies made and decisions taken on the basis that they are good and for the benefit of the vast majority of the members of this community!
Anyone care to enlighten us with some "facts" regarding our new masters, their main policies and actions? What is their ultimate goal and plan for us all? Who will be the winners and the losers if they accomplish their goal? Do you think that this last question is a a bit of a no-brainer? Yes, so do I!
New Zen koan – What is the sound of a One World Government?
Posted by Rory on 08/04/10 05:12 PM
In the 1st referendum where the Irish voted "no" there was a lot of 'mismanagement' on the Government's part.
On the other hand, the campaign for a "no" vote was strong, well organised and appeared to know and convey intelligently what they were talking about. They appeared to have the facts. The politicians supporting the "yes" campaign either had not got the answers, or the information readily available to offset the the claims and assertions of the "no" vote spokespeople. In other words, they had not done their homework and prepared properly for this referendum. They came across as disorganised and appeared not fully committed to their view. This was proven by their defeat!
In both referendums all the main political parties were backing and supporting a "yes" vote with the exception of Sinn Fein. That the Irish decided to vote against the Treaty in such circumstances was really quite amazing...going against the wishes of all the main Parties! This definitely should have been the end of the matter and democratically accepted by all.....but that sadly was not to be the case.
The 2nd referendum was announced at a time when there was a lot of financial insecurity about and people feared for their jobs and welfare. The Banks, Construction companies and Builders were in free-fall and their problems were affecting everyone. The crisis was in full swing and many were losing their jobs, worrying about pensions and hefty mortgages taken out during the boom years. Added to this was the full weight of the EEC and the main political parties spewing their gloom and doom should the outcome not result in a "yes" vote second time round!
There was also a concerted campaign by big companies / corporations including Ryanair and Intel amongst others to influence and sway the vote. They did this verbally and with their cash. Michael O'Leary, the head of Ryanair, announced that the low-cost airline would spend 455,000 euros on promoting a "yes" vote. Ryanair paid for full-page advertisements in the biggest-selling Irish daily newspaper that proclaimed: "1 million reasons to vote 'Yes to Europe'. 1 million FREE seats. Vote Yes to Europe."
The previous year this same Mr. O'Leary had attacked the idea of forcing the Republic to vote again on the treaty. "It seems that only in the European Union, Ireland and Zimbabwe are you forced to vote twice," he said.
Intel announced that it was spending 225,000 euros approx on advertisements and posters urging a "yes" vote.
Lobbyists were also busy raising funds within the EEC to support a "yes" vote and one group expected to spend a half million euros to do this.
There was a great deal of fear mongering at this time as well from Irish politician, other member states and big business people. The voters were drowned in a sea of negativity and dire warnings about the drastic consequences for Ireland and it's people should a "no" vote be repeated. At the same time the main "no" vote campaigner " multimillionaire businessman Declan Ganley was on the receiving end of a lot of negative publicity and accusations concerning his real agenda with questions arising regarding his 'backers' etc.
Meanwhile, recently re-elected European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso used a visit to Limerick shortly before the referendum to announce 14.8 million funding for 2,400 Dell workers in the city who had lost their jobs. The "no" campaigners clearly saw this as a ploy to sway the votes in that area. Barroso used his visit to dispense reminders of a bankrupt Iceland, where "people went to the ATM machine and there was no money". Implied threat understood and taken!
He reminded voters that Irish banks had received 120 billion in loans from the European Central Bank.
So all in all, I am of the opinion that the big guns were brought to bear in a very undemocratic way to scare the Irish into reversing their "no" vote on the Lisbon Treaty. This together with the financial crisis, loss of jobs and very negative forecasts regarding what the outcome would be if a "yes" vote was not returned, had the desired result. I often wonder how many more referendums would have been insisted upon if a "no" vote had been the result 2nd time round!!!
The Irish I feel succumbed to the negative forces, probably believing through fear and worry that if things went really bad economically, that the EEC would bail them out for voting "yes" and remaining in the club....so to speak. They probably thought (believed) that rejecting the Lisbon Treaty would mean....being fed to the sharks if worse came to worse.
This is just my humble opinion on why Ireland voted "yes" the second time out. With regards to how the Irish feel now, I think that others are going to reply to that question in a more informed way than I am able to.
One sure thing is " the Irish are presently very angry over their Banking crisis, the state of corruption and with their politicians. I also presume that they are not too happy with the undemocratic bureaucratic monster that now rules over 'their every need'!
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This was exactly what were hoping for. Thanks. We would have to believe that the Irish, generally, feel even more aggrieved now then when they voted "no" the first time. It cannot be a happy situation.
Posted by PB on 08/04/10 04:45 PM
Posted by Tom 0'Seirlog on 08/03/10 11:59 PM
Posted by Patrick O'sullivan on 08/02/10 06:12 PM
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Caps off. Please don't shout. Here's the deal.
You: Provide us a snapshot of what's really going on in Ireland today, why the Irish voted pro-EU the second time around and what the sentiment and economic temperature is right now. Still pro EU? Still optimistic? Mainstream publications have it that the Irish, unlike the Greeks, have shown a good level of maturity about austerity, and have not complained. According to this meme, the Irish will eat pet food for the next decade but out of their sacrifices will come a "better Ireland." Is this so?
We: Will provide you, in our turn, with an "answer."
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Posted by Leonardo Pisano on 08/02/10 05:39 PM
Posted by Rory on 08/02/10 01:29 PM
At the height of the "Celtic Tiger" as many as 250,000 Poles were working in Ireland, together with large numbers from other countries, mostly Eastern Europeans.
There is no doubt that the Irish will begin to emigrate again if jobs are no longer available. I would think that most of those emigrating already (in the figures that you produced) are Poles and others returning home as work has dried up.
The famine was not a "natural" occurrence.
The Irish Famine was of course caused by an act of nature. However, lest we forget, the resulting unnecessary deaths were an act of genocide carried out by the English Elite and their servants against the Irish.
Great educational and enlightening site. Keep up the good work!
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History Corner: The Great Irish Famine
What became known as the great famine occurred between 1845 and 52 and was one of the greatest catastrophies of the nineteenth century. It resulted in the deaths of millions of people from starvation and disease and a decline in Irelands population through emigration. It was thought by many to be an English induced famine used by a greedy government to solve the Irish question. The potato failed from blight but the country was full of food, which was taken away from those who grew it, to be consumed by the expanding workforce of the industrial boom in England or by its army overseas. The English hid behind the fact that they were the constitutional government for the Irish people pretending to be concerned by begging food for her people abroad while at the same time by constitutional policies taking the food from the people. They were ruthless in putting down all attempts by the Irish for self-government and all attempts of resistance. They passed laws that made it a crime for a father to protect his children or his home from destruction. They passed coercion laws that made it a crime for the Irish to leave their homes between sunrise and sunset or to hold arms. They had a well-fed armed guard of military and police watch over them while they starved. Never in the history of mankind was there a government who acted so cruelly to its people. Ireland never needed the begging bowl it had its own food grown in its own land and only needed its own concerned legislatures to pass laws to save her people. The constitutional Government of England was then the most powerful in the world and had the ear of the world through its influence and press. They manipulated the facts to cover up the real truth of what was happening in Ireland the mass murder of its people and the destruction of Ireland. An English induced constitutional famine.
There were many reasons put forward by them to explain the great famine during the 1840's. The shortage of food was one. This was a myth. During the famine years there was plenty of food in Ireland enough to feed double its population. Yes the potato failed but all other crops thrived. Under the system at the time Irish food was exported mainly to English markets but from they're found its way to many parts of the world. It puzzled many to hear there was famine in a land that had so much food to export .In normal countries it was usual to export food only after its population was fed. This was not the case in Ireland; during the period her food was taken away against the wishes of her people, usually at gunpoint and escorted to the ports under military guard. It was then carried away on ships leaving misery and starvation behind.
Posted by SEAN on 08/01/10 11:40 AM
The banks in Ireland perform the same function as "black and tan" pill boxes from where the population are financially terrorised, murdered, and subjugated backwards into debt peonage.
Ireland cannot go forward whilst it attempts to serve two masters-Whitehall and Brussels. The potato famine, the black and tan scourge and now the financial implosion all have their roots in the colonial, mercantalist, absentee landlord system.
See Martin Hutchinson on the Baltic debacle of neo-colonialism. Conclusion: If you don't fight you lose! They knew how to fight the black and tans. Will they have the brains and balls to do the same to the Euro and Anglo financial warlords and neo-colonialists?
Posted by White Cloud on 08/01/10 08:11 AM
Many continental Europeans bought into the scam because they were ironically led to believe it would give them the clout to withstand the materialistic Anglo-American bankster influences which were correctly seen as destructive to their cultural and spiritual values. The writing was always on the wall that the very opposite would happen " total enslavement to the global financial cabal " but somehow obscured from view to all but a few by the fog of propaganda.
In 1992 I had the pleasure and privilege of trekking through Ireland for a month, just before the first leg of the crack-up boom was about to change the Irish landscape forever -for the worse. Just as the country was caught up in the double buzz of the soccer World Cup and the impending referendum on the Maastricht treaty. (In hindsight, I wonder what to make of those two events having been scheduled simultaneously " another willful diversion tactic?)
Wherever I went, I did my utmost to explain what I saw was going to happen and persuade my gracious hosts to vote NO. I reasoned, implored, begged, and pleaded for it. Well, you know what happened next. Greed: 1 " Sense: 0. Maastricht was ratified.
Next thing I knew, all the old village butchers and cheesemakers in France, many of whom had been in business for decades without a single sanitary complaint, were being forced to shut down.
It was truly the beginning of the end for all of Europe. Thinking she had found her panacea, Lady Europe let the enemy in through the back door.
Posted by Valerie Protopapas on 08/01/10 07:45 AM
The whole European Union was a lie " as the writer so clearly declares. It WASN'T about "free trade" or the betterment of the nations of Europe, it was about a socialist/communist agenda of a huge "nation" which will be much easier to absorb into the New World Order than individual nations would be.
That's why the current administration in the US has open borders; it will be easier to create the North American Union once borders are broken down.
Ireland and other European states must decide if their own citizens rule or if a cadre of leftist elites will run everything for their own profit and power. A treaty based upon lies is null and void and should be ignored.
Posted by German on 08/01/10 06:44 AM
We have an strong wealth concentration in a hundred of corporations, meantime the people suffers poverty, unemployment an social security cuts.
Posted by Blondie on 08/01/10 05:32 AM
The Euro is the only currency to have severed its link to gold. This is why it was created. A lot of those emigrating may wish to return in the future.
Just because the situation seems futile now does not necessarily mean things are not unfolding as planned.
It just means you don't know the whole plan.
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"The Euro is the only currency to have severed its link to gold."
The euro has an indefinable relationship to gold.
Posted by Mike on 07/31/10 11:17 PM
Posted by Adolfo Nicolas on 07/31/10 10:32 AM
In American, the electronic voting machines are rife with insecurity and no auditing trails. Lastly, there is usually a choice of only "Yes" or "No" or either of two equally horrible candidates who stand for the same elite.
As Joseph Stalin said, "It is not who votes that counts. It is who counts the votes that counts."
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We are not worried about elections in this case but in understanding what went on behind the scenes, not being in Ireland during the time of the second vote. But it's kind of obvious anyway.
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Posted by Peter Underwood on 07/31/10 04:00 AM
We are battling against an entrenched Party system in UK in league with a corrupt politico-bureaucratic EU which has emasculated our British way of life to the point that our very national identity is threaten with extinction.
Ostensibly we are sovereign with our own central bank, currency and monarch which, we are led to believe, will guarantee our national self-determination. In practice the EU has proven to be a stealth oligarchy ridden with just the same corruptions as the US and proving a massive challenge to even persuade our people that their heritage has already been highjacked.
We are integral with the Anglo-Amercian, Military-Corporate Power Elite complex. We believe that the first step must be to remove the two-party systems masquerading as rule by the people, for the people etc by replacing the current crop of trough-feeders with a swarm of independent representatives. Only then can real change begin – we are a long way from seeing an educated populace on either side of the Atlantic, but the internet offers more than hope that both nations will prevail one day.
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Posted by Acudoc on 07/31/10 02:28 AM
Posted by Ingo Bischoff on 07/31/10 01:31 AM
The people of the U.S. are increasingly governed directly from Washington, DC. Sovereignty of the individual states is being disrespected by the governing elites. The ratification of the 17th Amendment in 1913 eliminated the voice of the States in legislative affairs of the federal government.
Since then, the elites have gained greater and greater power and influence over the American people, ignoring the states and their sovereignty in governing the citizens of their state. Thanks to the power and influence of the elites in the central government, the U.S. has a central bank which through interest rate policy has destroyed capital intensive businesses from railroads to airlines, from automobile manufacturers to steel mills. In the process a redeemable currency system was ruined and replaced with the "Ponzi Scheme" of monetizing government debt.
The elites have involved the country in two World Wars and numerous small ones, while pushing an irredeemable U.S. dollar for use as a world wide reserve currency, which while still some value today, cannot be rescued from an eventual meltdown. Should the 50 States be "separate".......??? I say yes...absolutely, but separate "Republics" united in a Federation as provided by the original constitution, not absorbed into one overpowering, overreaching federal government run by a ruling, monetary elite. The repeal of the 17th Amendment will restore Federalism and return to U.S. to a union of 50 separate, individual, sovereign states. Pray it happens.
Posted by Ingo Bischoff on 07/31/10 12:26 AM
As Harry Schultz put it, the best antidote to a "one world government" where the "elites" reign, is a collection of a 1,000 tiny nations with governments directed by "We the People...."
Posted by AmanfromMars on 07/31/10 12:00 AM
What says the Daily Bell to that Signed solution? Would it be bravely endorsed or studiously ignored, which is nearly always a sure sign of something decidedly unsettling but wholly prescient. Although of course, for they who are so able, would such support as welcome as it would be, be really unnecessary.
Posted by P.Jar on 07/30/10 09:17 PM
Spike Milligan called the Concord a "Flying Groundnut Scheme". Look that one up. He was truly funny and a little mad, unlike me.
Ian Paisley, God rest his soul is actually STILL ALIVE!
Part of me hails from County Monaghan in Northern Ireland, but that county is actually in the South, so they could really screw with people's heads. Thank King Henry VIII's son, Ross Perot for that one.
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I just surfed while composing this little piece and found I am likely descended from Hugh O'Neill. OMG. I am the "one."
Bill and Finn, will you be my Sanchos? Where's my lance e schultz?
Sorry. The lights just went out. Bye.
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