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Saturday, November 13, 2010 – by Staff Report

President of the Council and Commission, Herman Van Rompuy and Manuel Durao Barroso, expressed their satisfaction over the outcome of the G20 Seoul Summit held between 11 and 12 November 2010. The EU wanted this summit to make progress on joint action to boost global growth and jobs and therefore welcomes that the Seoul Action plan commits the G20 further to global action for balanced growth. The Action Plan agreed in Seoul G20 Summit is a clear recognition of the joint responsibility held by all countries. All major economies have agreed to do their part to achieve rebalancing to tackle imbalances and will strengthen the mutual assessment process to promote external sustainability. Barroso and Van Rompuy expressed their satisfaction on the fact that the EU method to use indicators to trigger an assessment of macro-economic imbalances and their root causes was backed by the G20 leaders, and have committed to bring the experiences gathered from the process of adopting a robust mechanism to address macro-economic imbalances which is currently into place. – Euroalert

Dominant Social Theme: OK, it all worked out.

Free-Market Analysis: The G20 Summit has come and gone. Herman Van Rompuy may be satisfied with its outcome but the chances are that many involved in the Western power elite nexus will not be. There was evidently and obviously pressure put on China to cooperate more effectively with the West on monetary issues, and so far China seems to be resisting. In fact the G20 as an aggregate, and especially the BRIC nations, seem fairly unresponsive to Anglo-American pressure at this date.

In the run-up to the conference it was becoming obvious that there would not be full agreement regarding what the United States hoped to accomplish. The common wisdom holds that the US is concerned with an undervalued yuan, which allows the Chinese to sell easily into American markets. But we have wondered if it is the vast quantity of securities that China has accumulated as a result of its policies that is bothering the West. The growing power of the Chinese, via its accumulation of gold and dollars is likely becoming a drag on any contemplated dollar policy.

The US, for instance, wants to print money, but still has no assurances that other countries will not debase their currencies as well. And while our perspective on these global sideshows is that they have been created to rubber-stamp the policies that the Anglo-American elite supposedly wants put in place, we can see from this most recent G20 meeting that stated Western objectives have not been entirely accepted by any means. On the other hand, we have noted that Western interests are taking a higher profile in China; the Rothschild banking dynasty itself recently received a high-profile banking charter; a large Chinese auto facility is apparently taking a significant position in GM.

It is hard to tell, currently, the significance of these moves. One thing seems certain: Insofar as the G20 is concerned, the Anglo-American elites are not having their way. We have written on several occasions this past week that we would wait to try to figure out what this might mean; and there could be several different meanings actually. But on its surface, it remains a rejection of US policy, as we can see restated in this AP story:

G-20 refuses to back US push on China's currency ... Leaders of 20 major economies on Friday refused to back a U.S. push to make China boost its currency's value, keeping alive a dispute that raises fears of a global trade war amid criticism that cheap Chinese exports are costing American jobs.

A joint statement issued by the leaders including President Barack Obama and China's Hu Jintao tried to recreate the unity that was evident when the Group of 20 rich and developing nations held its first summit two years ago during the global financial meltdown. But deep divisions, especially over the U.S.-China currency dispute, left G-20 officials negotiating all night to draft a watered-down statement for the leaders to endorse ...

The G-20's failure to adopt the U.S. stand has underlined Washington's reduced influence on the international stage, especially on economic matters. In another setback, Obama also failed to conclude a free trade agreement this week with South Korea. The biggest disappointment for the United States was the pledge by the leaders to refrain from "competitive devaluation" of currencies. Such a statement is of little consequence since countries usually only devalue their currencies – making it less worth against the dollar – in extreme situations like a severe financial crisis.

The statement decided against using a slightly different wording favored by the U.S. – "competitive undervaluation," which would have shown the G-20 taking a stronger stance on China's currency policy. The crux of the dispute is Washington's allegations that Beijing is artificially keeping its currency, the yuan, weak to gain a trade advantage. U.S. business lobbies say that a cheaper yuan costs American jobs because production moves to China to take advantage of low labor costs and undervalued currency.

While the outcome of the meeting seems clear, there are certainly different ways that it could be interpreted in the alternative, "conspiratorial" media. Accepting that the power elite aims at creating world government, one could argue that a diminishment of US clout brings such an environment closer. One could also argue, as we pointed recently, that failures involving the G20 generate increased nervousness and thus hasten the kind of financial chaos that the Western elites can take advantage of.

Regardless of how the G20 meeting ended up, there is also a case to be made that China is not nearly so powerful as the Western mainstream media is presenting that country. As we have pointed out, the regime itself is anything but universally popular. (What authoritarian regime is?) It is also representative of the Han, China's largest ethnicity and thus there are certain ethnic and racial overtones to the regime's actions.

Even laying aside the grievances that the Chinese may have with their government, there are other reasons to believe that the China's rulers are anything but secure. We have pointed out for over a year – long before most observers began to criticize China's overheated economy – how delicate the economy was generally. Price inflation in our view is almost out of control, and the sprawling system itself is a mimic of capitalism, not a reality. As authoritarian as the West has become, it is nothing compared to China: A kind of Potemkin village of capitalism where nothing is as it seems.

To the outside observer, China appears to be an increasingly competitive place. But our argument is that like many authoritarian states, marketplace competition is reserved for the small vendor selling cell phones or sunglasses out of shops, kiosks or on the street. Meanwhile, the financial system only appears to be contentious. In fact, the major players all report to the communist party to receive their orders.

Given that the system is based on a pretense of private enterprise rather than its reality, we would not be surprised to find if there are many statistics regarding the economy that are inaccurate. While there has not been much reporting in this area, some indices are finally beginning to be challenged. It is not the Western media that is bringing these contradictions to the fore, but the Chinese, as follows via a Reuters report:

Inflation "under-statement" sparks row in China ... With price pressures on the rise in China, a rare public spat has broken out in government circles about whether the statistics agency is suppressing the full truth of how high inflation really is. Many Chinese have long harboured suspicions about the quality of official inflation data, saying that it does not adequately capture soaring property prices or food costs. But criticism took a curious turn this week when the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences, a top government think-tank in Beijing, published a research article arguing that the consumer price index had been under- stated by more than 7 percent over the past five years.

Somewhat surprisingly, gold, silver and platinum all dropped yesterday on concerns, apparently, that China was going to raise rates. We have anticipated a pullback in precious metals, given the near verticality of prices recently (and what seemed like a kind of mini-promotion to drive prices up prior to a pullback), but the idea that China can move bullion prices is somewhat new to us. This brings us to our final point, which is a question of the convergence of Chinese and Western elites.

We have mentioned previously that some powerful Chinese families may self-indentify as Jewish. The "Li" family in China is commonly held to be the most powerful, with the Lis (or Lees) also seen as controlling Hong Kong and prominent in Korea and perhaps even Singapore. There are questions as to whether these disparate familial groups are linked or not and even how much clout the Li family exercises within China. The Lis are said to operate within the communist party as well as outside of it and were also close to Mao.

But the larger point we would make here is there are likely competing power centers in China (army versus party, etc.) and the society itself is may not be nearly so historically congruent or long-lived Western ones. This is ironic since the Chinese civilization is far more ancient than its Western counterpart. While China may have its elites, the country's convulsive history over the past 200 years may have prevented a single dynastic family from emerging with ultimate power (though it is speculated within the alternative press that the Lis would come closest to fulfilling this profile.)

If there is not a series of dynastic families that allow for the convergence of Western money power, then the current contretemps within the G20 becomes even more meaningful. The differences of opinion are not after all a production for public consumption but an actual altercation that has not been resolved. This would indicate to us that Western powers-that-be have hastily (they do seem to be in a tremendous hurry these days) pulled their own house down upon their collective head without, perhaps, creating alternatives.

Many observers of the power elite scene believe that money power is fungible and it is evidently flowing East. But we are not so sure that Western elites can find a home in China as some. There is a difference between aiming one's manipulations at a third-world country and Europe or America in our view. Also so long as the depredations were restricted to Africa or South America, the elite Western elites were somewhat insulated from "blowback." But that hardly seems the case now.

What the G20 summit is showing us is a continuation of a trend. The Anglo-American axis was evidently not able to impose its will on the rest of the world. One can go round in circles trying to figure out if this is part of some sort of larger, Machiavellian strategy. But let us take it at face value for the moment. Right now any moves to solidify the IMF's control over the global economy via a more formalized role as a central bank does not seem entirely realistic. Currently, the Western elite's apparent goal of taking over the world's economies via the mechanisms of Bretton Woods seems to be less realizable, not more.

This is in line with other difficulties the Western power elite seems to be having. The truth-telling of the Internet itself has begun to invalidate many elite memes, from global warming to central banking to the "war on terror." Among other impacts, we tend to believe that the powers-that-be have speeded up their plans to consolidate world governance as a result. There may be other reasons (it is impossible for us to say) but this seems like an adequate, or at least reasonable, speculation. Is Western money power somehow seen as less formidable these days within the larger context of what is occurring?

These are fundamental questions for anyone trying to figure out where the global economy is headed and how it will get there. The ramifications are tremendous. After World War II, the Anglo-American axis had the clout to impose a kind of Pax Americana on the globe's bleeding nations. The US alone controlled something like 50 percent of the international productive capacity. But that was then. Today both America and Britain are far weaker, hollowed out by their own elites in what may prove to be a miscalculation.

If this same elite cannot re-impose its will on the world, then surely entropy will begin creep in as nature abhors a vacuum. The result could be, in our opinion some sort of gold standard, but one that is implemented by default, as powerful nations seek their own serial solutions. Perhaps it will be, even, a market-driven gold-and-silver standard alongside a free-banking regime.

Like you, dear reader, we are reading the tea leaves and following along as best we can. The G20 seems to be confirming our perspective that a formal, international realignment of control giving rise to additional institutions controlled by the Western elite is not going to happen easily or quickly, if at all. We return to a previous question, then: How does one build an "new world order" without fully dominating the world? And if one is willing to give up control for this goal, then the power-sharing itself invalidates the result. Either someone "rules the world" ... or not. A consortium would seem to be a contradiction-in-terms.

There are perhaps potential solutions: a new world war, a massive false flag event that would jolt the world into a new crisis mode and demand solutions that only the Western elite is in the position to provide. And yet even these seem to us not to address the fundamental problem of Western weakness in the face of a new century and a new communications technology that is undermining the secrecy of money power.

Conclusion: We continue to closely monitor this unfolding saga (the most important in the world in our view) in the hopes of divining more clues. But right now the reality of global governance and a new, international currency regime might be seen as receding not approaching. This is the lesson we tentatively take away from this latest G20 meeting, the most important one so far in our humble view. We could be wrong. 




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  Posted by Sovereignjim on 11/18/10 09:10 AM

Don't you all know that since 1972? the operational theory of "Free Trade" has been in actuality "Fake Free Trade". Fake free trade has been in force since the world ended the transfer of gold between nations to settle trade accounts. FTT claimed that gold transfers changed wages such that trade moved toward balance because the quantify of gold held determined the currency amounts and thus its value which changed wages and thus labor costs. Thus 1934? and the U.S. ending of gold backing for the dollar started the weakening of FTT.

  Posted by 4irw4y on 11/16/10 10:41 AM

amanfromMars 15-2137

Thanks for the link.

What might be missed by some, is its freshness. Only one@google .

But I can't imagine any PE member, caring about security not. It's always an agenda on any G meeting. Of course, when you in some way care about _computer_ security, speed is your top instrument.

Yes, speed is what is realy missing, some hot spots available in southern areas. But of course nobody needs RTK/TTK fiber (-: and there are problems with the certification of the 2w sat service having the required speed. Though, we could take an unexpensive SS-20 or something to lift in Roskosmos and build an unexpensive sat @Bauman. Lift, I mean, the sputnik (-;

So I would better describe the lands as retreat/resort/family home sites with modest requirements to connection speed. Locations vary.

And, can _anyone_ do anything like on these photos and in text in Switzerland?

Click to view link

If he can, then he must be Him. While in this land it's just you and three eternities " a sea of fresh water, mountains and the sky... however, a local village is usually either on CB, or just behind the turn.

A place for some G meeting... is it not? One of the places in Siberia where vodka is not accepted as a hard currency.

  Posted by AmanfromMars on 11/15/10 09:37 PM

Daily Bell and esteemed Campanologists,

Please be prepared for some very strange goings on within your Virtual Machinery/Global Operating Devices/Binary Communicators, as Power Controls are reset and reallocated to New Root Command Defaults/Parameters/Protocols.

And please, before dismissing as nonsense and GBIrish the above advisory, please note the Parallel Similarities/Semantic Singularities in posts here, and the preamble here ......

Click to view link ......

revealing increased and increasing consciousness in artificial intelligence, which is that which controls your worlds today with ITs media presentation of both novel and false information, competing and conflicting vainly with Command and Control in extremely sophisticated and simply complex advanced intelligence missions/CyberIntelAIgent Programs cloaking QuITe Alien Projects.

Please do not be unduly and unnecessarily alarmed as the Space Centre is Changed to AIRemote Virtual Control for Better Beta Leverage of Future Direction/Asset Control/Man Management/Neuro-Linguistic Programming delivering a Fundamental Base Shift in Human Perception.

Stuck in a Rut and squabbling like Primitives is surely not where you wannabe, whenever being SMARTer has never been easier.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 11/15/10 09:50 AM

"first domino to fall..."

Hardly. Western civilization is already dead, killed by futile attempts to forcefully structure and control, to the monopoly advantage of the controllers. This is a direct assault in free choice which is the ability to adapt, which equals survival. It is only media spin, terror and perceptual inertia which keeps this fact from being widely acknowledged.

You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. They forgot to seek our consent to be "scrambled", or for that matter, whether we support and are therefore willing to pay for their grand social / economic endeavors. Just another scam. History is best understood as a sequence of crimes against humanity and civilization:

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  Posted by John Blenkins on 11/14/10 11:39 PM

Ireland looks as if it's been set up to be the first domino to fall.

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  Posted by AmanfromMars on 11/14/10 10:39 PM

"For the record, I sell software and nobody so far has considered it strange... (the software that is, I myself am considered strange by several of my closest associates, including my dog)" .... Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/2010 6:52:52 PM

:-) Pleased to make your acquaintance, Zenbillionaire. I sympathise/empathise with your current dilemma bashing against the system glitch and highlighting its crashing flaw. And would IT be considered strange if it were tasked to ask, is the software you sell S.M.A.R.T.er Enabled and Enabling, for Programs which are Better in Betas that are Astutely Aware/Virtually Sentient and which don't deliver, nor are required to deliver upon the vapourware platform of Empty Promises for Loads and Lodes of Old Bull and BS? Or would that be Cloudy Produce and Bounty Harvested and Presented to Markets by A.N.Other and/or Others?

Such would be a Really Great Virtual Game Changer, n'est ce pas, Mein Herr, with the Power of Rising Houses in the Eastern Sun, ITs Immaculate Driver Source Force..... and Crazy Wild West Mentor and AIMonitor, which in a Schools Setting would be as the Perfect Prefect.

"Of course you're right about dogs. Mine loves me because I feed her, but she's still pretty sure I'm strange." .... Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/2010 7:37:13 PM

Give a Man and/or a Woman what they Need and/or Desire and you will both be EMPowered and Controlled to Feed All Needs Effortlessly?! ...... which is both Beautifully Strange and Perfectly Natural?!

"The defense made was that the West was entering a new economy, one wherein the coin of the realm would be intellectual property. America was to become a nation of Knowledge Workers,..." ... Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/2010 12:04:38 PM

Such has always been, and will always be, the default coin of realms and economies but there are no national/international/internetional boundaries to contain and restrain intellect, which blossoms everywhere in light and enlightened circles to produce bounty with its selfless sharing, and it is only blighted with vain attempts to create monopoly apps and restrictive practices with exclusive tie-ins/tie-downs, which is the rickety fence and dumb line which Apple apppears to straddle and struggle to maintain in their crashing global executive business model?

And with scenery to compare with the best in Switzerland, the only question for Parties interested in the Baikal and Bonanzas is Digital Speed and/or Satellite Connection for Rapid Sustained and Controlled Organic Growth and Knowledge Transfer, 4irw4y .....Click to view link

  Posted by Bill Ross on 11/14/10 08:43 PM

@Lila;

Bang on. Use correct names (factual terminology) or, be an unwitting accomplice to the fraudsters...

  Posted by Lila Rajiva on 11/14/10 08:16 PM

@DB

"They have been based historically in Britain, Europe, and America"

Not if they are 6000 years old. Why ignore the Babylonians ... No, it's names for all or names for none ... It's a non-negotiable moral issue in my book, but apparently not in yours. (Gentle smile.)

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Hm-mm ... Too far back. We analyze elite promotions not elite genealogy.

  Posted by Zenbillionare on 11/14/10 07:45 PM

@ Bailingout

I composed a reply but inadvertently used the word b*tching in it. After the elves cleanse it it may appear.

  Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/10 07:37 PM

@Bailingout

Well, that's of course exactly what I will do, but I'm not happy about it. I don't know if you follow the spread on the USD/CHF but it doesn't favor the seller of CHF. Last Friday the exchange was .98 CHF to the dollar, with 1.02 Dollars to the Franc. Wells Fargo is *buying* CHF at .98 dollars to the CHF, so the conversion you're proposing costs me around 8% (sell Francs for Dollars, then buy Francs for Dollars). It's obscene. And I'm bitching about it. So there.

Of course you're right about dogs. Mine loves me because I feed her, but she's still pretty sure I'm strange.

  Posted by Bailingout on 11/14/10 07:24 PM

@ Zen

Wouldn't it make sense to convert your currency into the local (US Dollar?) currency in order to make transactions easier? If you wish to maintain your reserves it seems to me that you could do alot worse than Swiss Francs in a Swiss bank account or gold in a Swiss vault.

The great thing about dogs is they don't seem to mind if you're strange as long as you feed them.

  Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/10 07:21 PM

@ Bailigout

"To be clear, what you are experiencing is a violation of your "freedom of association" "

Perhaps, but then by enforcing my "right" to freely associate with banks that choose not to associate with me on the terms I expect, I would be violating *their* rights to free association :)

No, it's not that simple. They don't want to do business with me on my terms. That is their right. What irks me is that the *reason* they don't want to has more to do with regulation than it has to do with business.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 11/14/10 07:09 PM

@Zen

"but for now they must be converted into something else before the enter the "real" economy again"

To be clear, what you are experiencing is a violation of your "freedom of association" which encompasses your definition of the "terms of association" and freedom to "not associate".

  Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/10 06:52 PM

@ Bailingout

"It must be a strange business you're in to not be transacting in the local currency"

There is no local currency, I manufacture and sell products worldwide. I chose the Swiss Franc several years ago as a reserve currency. RIght now I'm simply trying to find a bank that takes CHF in cash and won't insist on converting it to dollars first.

For the record, I sell software and nobody so far has considered it strange... (the software that is, I myself am considered strange by several of my closest associates, including my dog)

  Posted by Bailingout on 11/14/10 06:27 PM

@Zen

Yes I meant victim, sorry. It must be a strange business you're in to not be transacting in the local currency.

  Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/10 06:06 PM

@ Bailingout

Ah, I understand now. Yes I do preserve wealth in media other than dollars but for now they must be converted into something else before the enter the "real" economy again. I was surprised when I found it so difficult to reenter the banking system with bonds other than US dollars and thought I'd share that experience, but it appears you were already aware of that problem.

It remains personal for me at the moment and since I've already exposed the question I'll hope someone will answer it anyway. I would like to say however that I don't consider myself a fine example of the meme's effectiveness, rather I consider myself a fine example of a victim of its effectiveness :)

  Posted by Bailingout on 11/14/10 05:44 PM

@Zen

No need for apologies. I'm the one who should apologize since it seems I didn't make myself clear.

"They see paper as a medium of exchange...not something to save for retirement."

The meme isn't that there's a network effect for the USD that makes it the worlds champion best medium of exchange, but that it's considered something of value to be saved and invested in other paper instruments for retirement.

You're a fine example of the effectiveness of the meme, by the way.

  Posted by Zenbillionaire on 11/14/10 05:07 PM

@Bailingout

"Why would anyone be foolish enough to believe that saving pieces of paper would be any more sensible than saving sea shells or beads?"

On the meme of THE US DOLLAR...

For my part it's pure pragmatism.

Right now my friend the game is well and truly rigged. It doesn't make sense and it doesn't have to. You must try an experiment for yourself by attempting to transact a real, legitimate business exchange with something other than US dollars. Note that I'm not suggesting dollars as an example of fiat currency to be replaced by Francs or Krona; I mean US Dollars. Francs won't work in my personal experience, and though I only suspect you will will have a similar experience with Krona I can't lay any claims concerning use of that currency. I can't speak for Pounds or Euro either.

Find me a bank that will accept CHF over the counter to open an account for a non Swiss citizen in a country other than Switzerland. Any bank. Please post the name and location of the bank :)

Every bank I have visited refuses to do so. They will accept Francs of course, but they will only hold dollars, which means they insist on converting said francs to dollars at a usurious exchange rate before agreeing to transact any business whatsoever. Some will hold francs, but not unless you convert them to dollars then convert them back to francs later (a proposal that is very expensive).

The meme of the DOLLAR is more than you suggest, it is a fact of business. I am very serious about my request to learn of any bank that will open an account denominated in CHF using cash. I have a real and present need to do exactly that and I have failed in all attempts to do so. I have talked with HSBC. I have talked with the Royal Bank of Scotland. I have discussed the proposal with Credit Suisse and the Bank of Austria. I can go on and on. Every bank I have talked to wants dollars, or wants to convert CHF to dollars before accepting the business.

I am at a loss. Now, lets extend this argument to the likelihood of a bank accepting gold or silver or some fiat currency other than the esteemed Swiss Franc. It just flat out doesn't work. We live in a world dominated by the dollar; it is a fact jack.

Sorry if this seems blunt but I am frustrated and I am on a timeline and I'm officially grumpy.

  Posted by Bailingout on 11/14/10 04:35 PM

I've read quite a few DB articles.....feedback sections and have come to the conclusion that the mother of all memes, THE US DOLLAR, is the meme least exposed here.

To value gold in terms of paper money is insane. The true calculation is to value paper in terms of gold. It's not that gold is becoming worth more but that paper is becoming worth less (worthless). Gold is the standard....not paper with ink. The Indians who sold Manhattan for trinkets weren't any more naive than westerners who toil their lives away for slips of paper or ones and zeros in cyberspace. Yet this is the mindset caused by the most poisonous of all memes.

The USD is irredeemable now but was at least an IOU 1/20 ounce of gold before FDR 1933. Since then the citizens of 'the west', and much of the world (since Nixon 71) have been duped into believing that these pieces of paper/ones and zeros have intrinsic value and that pieces of gold are worthless (earn no interest). Only when hammered by high/hyper inflation will people wake up from their stupor and realize (not fully) that they've been the victims of the biggest Ponzi scheme ever. Unfortunately, by then, it will be too late.

The people who know the true value of gold are the extremely rich (old money) and the extremely poor (third worlders). They see paper as a medium of exchange...not something to save for retirement. Why would anyone be foolish enough to believe that saving pieces of paper would be any more sensible than saving sea shells or beads?

  Posted by Lila Rajiva on 11/14/10 03:53 PM

@Weir

I also think that gold is being manipulated UPWARDS right now. I believe it is in order to induce those who hold gold to feel rich...and thus to spend..

Then, when the price is crashed downwards, the gold holders, will have "spent" their gains...and may sell their gold, as well, in a panic.

I do not believe this is the blow-off top yet.

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