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China's Empty Cities Are Result of UN Agenda 21?
China to create largest mega city in the world with 42 million people ... China is planning to create the world's biggest mega city by merging nine cities to create a metropolis twice the size of Wales with a population of 42 million. City planners in south China have laid out an ambitious plan to merge together the nine cities that lie around the Pearl River Delta. The "Turn The Pearl River Delta Into One" scheme will create a 16,000 sq mile urban area that is 26 times larger geographically than Greater London, or twice the size of Wales. – UK Telegraph
Dominant Social Theme: We will build an urban infrastructure and save the environment.
Free-Market Analysis: We've covered the insanity of Chinese economic growth in numerous articles stretching back nearly two years now, but this latest news is the most startling yet. If the Telegraph is to believed (we have no reason not to), the Chinese have now dropped any pretense of a market driven economy. The Chinese are "planning" the economy, and in a big way.
Perhaps this bureaucratic zeal partially explains the eruption of empty cities that the alternative press (and the Daily Bell in particular) has been reporting on. While speculation seems to be out of control at an entrepreneurial level, the vast tracts of empty housing now being constructed may have an even deeper import, one having to do with the UN's sweeping, global mandate, Agenda 21. Perhaps they are thus part of an urban planning policy of a magnitude unseen in human history. You can read one of the Bell's China stories here:
http://www.thedailybell.com/1604/China-That-Urban-Empty-Feeling.html
We don't understand where China is going to find the money for these ambitious projects. In a free-market, cities spring up spontaneously as the need arises. In China, obviously, the need is perceived by bureaucrats and the funding is provided via China's dangerously over-extended central bank. The economy is so overheated that China keeps banning housing investments. The latest crackdown, we read, is that people in certain regions will not be able to own more than one speculative real-estate property.
None of this will help, of course, and it is baffling to see the steps the Chinese communist leaders are taking to "cool" the economy. Either they actually don't realize that inflation is a monetary phenomenon or they do realize – but are confident that state control and its mandates can overwhelm market forces. In fact, running economies by mandate can work for a period of time, but when the increasingly fragile patchwork of regulatory dictates implodes, the mess is all the worse.
And that is surely what is going to happen to China. It is impossible to predict a timeline but just as Western economies imploded in 2008, so will China's economy eventually implode as well. There is really no difference between the Chinese economy and Western economies at this point except in terms of the position of the business cycle and the magnitude of the upcoming disaster. When the Chinese bubble pops, we imagine the resultant reverberations will shake the world.
Of course that's not the spin from Western powers-that-be. Newspapers and magazines are filled with articles about the Chinese miracle and the country's entrepreneurial zeal. Granted, passing mention is made to state coordination, but most articles in mainstream magazines and newspapers still do not mention, let alone emphasize, what surely will occur in China sooner or later: the mother of all busts.
Within this context, the above cited mega city would seem to be fairly predictable, though astonishing in scope, given the leadership's quiet – even secret – propensity for central planning. To us the entire plan as enunciated, seems to mimic the worst features of the USSR, where sterile, crumbling planned developments still dominate local landscapes. The Chinese may do it better but the spirit is no more laudable. The powers-that-be will decide where and how average Chinese will live, and obviously most of them will live in cities.
It doesn't stop with one mega city. According to the Telegraph, "By the end of the decade, China plans to move ever greater numbers into its cities, creating some city zones with 50 million to 100 million people and 'small' city clusters of 10 million to 25 million. In the north, the area around Beijing and Tianjin, two of China's most important cities, is being ringed with a network of high-speed railways that will create a super-urban area known as the Bohai Economic Rim. Its population could be as high as 260 million. ... As the process gathers pace, total investment in urban infrastructure over the next five years is expected to hit £685 billion, according to an estimate by the British Chamber of Commerce, with an additional £300 billion spend on high speed rail and £70 billion on urban transport."
This is central planning on steroids. But as Bell feedbackers have suggested (and there have been scattered commentaries on the 'Net as well), perhaps China's zeal for city planning has other impetuses beyond resettling rural farmers in urban environments. The issue of the UN's agenda 21 has been mentioned in this regard. What is Agenda 21? According to the UN, it is, "a comprehensive plan of action to be taken globally, nationally and locally by organizations of the United Nations System, Governments, and Major Groups in every area in which human impacts on the environment."
The conservative website Rightside News has recently run a series of articles – exposes – of UN Agenda 21. "Sustainable development has become the buzzword for a strategy under development since at least the early 1970s to completely control every aspect of our lives, including resettling entire populations." Rightside News points out that the 1976 U.N. Conference on Human Settlements called for population redistribution as follows:
• All countries should establish as a matter of urgency a national policy on human settlements, embodying the distribution of population, and related economic and social activities, over the national territory.
• A national policy for human settlements and the environment should be an integral part of any national economic and social development policy.
• Human settlements in most countries are characterized by wide disparities in living standards from one region to another, between urban and rural areas, within individual settlements and among various social and ethnic groups. Such discrepancies exacerbate many human settlement problems, and, in some instances, reflect inadequate planning. Human settlement policies can be powerful tools for the more equitable distribution of income and opportunities.
China it turns out is an enthusiastic proponent of Agenda 21 and extensive information on the country's compliance can be seen at the website www.acca21.org.cn. A book-length White Paper can be downloaded there that delineates fully the compliance of the Chinese government. Chapter 1 – "The Preamble" – begins as follows:
This century has seen remarkable advances in the development of science and technology and in social productivity. The abundant material wealth created by mankind is unprecedented and it has resulted in a rapid development of civilization. However, aggravations caused by population expansion, excessive consumption of resources and global environmental problems such as pollution, reduced biodiversity and increased gap between north and south, have seriously hampered the development of economies and improvements in people's quality of life, and are even threatening human existence itself.
Given the pressures of these harsh realities, mankind has no choice but to re-examine its social and economic behaviour and its path of development. Traditional ideas of considering economic growth solely in quantitative terms and the traditional development mode of "polluting first and treating later" are no longer appropriate when considering present and future requirements for development. It is now necessary to find a path for development, wherein considerations of population, economy, society, natural resources, and the environment are coordinated as a whole, so that a path for non-threatening sustainable development can be found which will meet current needs without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their needs.
This is fairly strong – though general – language. But now, apparently, we seem to have evidence that China intends to put the UN's mandates into practice in a big way. The ultimate intention is to depopulate the countryside we would imagine, in preference for gigantic cities. Farming will be accomplished corporately and the corporate state will benefit from an expanded, controllable, urban population – one that can be repurposed for whatever social and corporate goals the leadership has in mind. The goal, ultimately, is globalism and a marriage with similar urban constructs created by Western elites.
It is control that the power elite is after – East or West. Environmentalism is merely a pretext for the kinds of mass-engineerings of society that is contemplated. And while the Chinese may be ahead in the race to implement Agenda 21, there is no doubt that Western elites intend to fulfill UN mandates as well. The Internet is full of stories about the attempted implementation of Agenda 21 under various euphemisms, Smart Growth being among the most popular. But the euphemisms no matter how cheerful disguise the reality – which is the abrogation of Western property rights.
In America, homeowners and local communities are fighting back. But there is a darker side to the story in the US; it can be speculated, for instance, that the depopulation of the Gulf Coast is part of a disguised effort by the powers-that-be to reconfigure population densities for various purposes. The rationales may include both the forcible mergers of Mexico and the US (referred to as the North American Union – and including Canada) and Agenda 21. Alternative news media investigator Jesse Ventura has already devoted a television program to the issue of Gulf Coast depopulation. (We'll be discussing this and other issues with Mr. Ventura in an upcoming Bell interview.)
The West has invested hundreds of billions – perhaps trillions – in China's development and growth. In hindsight, one wonders at the viability of this funding. China's free-markets at the top-level are evidently non-existent and much of China's recent growth has been fueled by tens of trillions of yuan printed by the Chinese central bank. The economy is so overheated that the ChiComs are applying price controls wherever they can – and price controls never work.
Conclusion: The Chinese are about to embark on the most significant social and population reconfiguration ever attempted; but where is the money to come from? Are the ChiComs simply going to print it? How can they? It is simply mad. And what is madder still, is that Western media continues to report on China as if it were a sane society run by a sane leadership. Reading about the plans to re-engineer the living conditions of one billion people puts us in mind of the worst excesses of the Soviet Union. Who would have invested in that?
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Posted by Peter Leg on 07/02/11 06:35 PM
I think you are on the wrong track. I would say some of the photos of empty cities are from the cities that have been built in Sichuan after the earthquake, to house the people who lost everything.
Usually in China the whole construction project will be finished before anybody is allowed in. You can walk around and have a look at the place but you can't move in until after the opening ceremony. The opening ceremony is the cutting of the red ribbon and then people just stream in.
This year is the 90th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party and on Chinese TV they show achievements that the party has done over the years. And they show the beautiful cities that have been built to re-house the Sichuan earthquake survivors. I mean some of these cities are cities I'd be proud to live in. They interview people showing how they lived before the earthquake and how they live now in the beautiful new city. They always remember the people who didn't make it through the earthquake.
Welcome to the next superpower. Check out his article
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Posted by Tim on 02/07/11 08:42 PM
The question was asked, where is the money going to come for this? It seems obvious to me, the Chinese are doing it this way, because it will secure the funding for it, from us. "Us" being the Western governments and banks.
It may cost a trillion dollars or so, to create these mega cities, and depopulate the provinces. We are going to pay for it. Our elites seems to have an interest in depopulating the Chinese provinces.
When it is all over, the land will still be there. Later on, after the madness is ended, Chinese will move back out there and farm and do whatever it is they do, and have done, for 5000 years.
The sheer scale of this is impressive. It will be interesting to see if they can pull it off.
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Posted by Lyle Merbs on 02/04/11 12:31 AM
An addendum to one of Robert A. Heinlein's books tells a tale on the former USSR. In 1953 Heinlein & his wife, who spoke fluent Russian, were sitting on the bank of the river in Moscow, a city of 3,000,000 people according to officials. There wasn't a boat on the river.
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Posted by W.Palmer on 01/26/11 08:47 PM
I lived for many years in Hong Kong. I have visited China many many times before the "modernization". In the days of Mao suits and cadres yelling and shoving people around Mao's legacy was that everyone had something, for the urban people a job in a factory or shop or with the government.
For the rural folk a bit of land with an ox and a pig, enough to sustain yourself and your family. (Not always true but that was the theory)
Everything was done by manual labour. and in the rural parts of China that I visited it was like turning the clock back 200 years. Food was always in short supply and generally of poor quality, even in urban centres.
I have sat down to a pile of rice topped by a chicken bone and a few leaves of vegetable many times knowing that I was, as a guest, getting the best of what they had.
The attempt to get people to move into the urban centres is a ham fisted way of trying to get people off the land so that small plots can be made over to large farms and mechanized hi production farming can take over.
It is something that has to be done as the small hand worked plots, though very well worked, can no longer support the tenants or the population in what they produce. Nor does it fit the new economy. It is what we saw in 18th and 19th century Britain as it moved into the Industrial age.
The upheavals that the Chinese peasantry must endure in the near future are the result of the Maoist philosophy that stultified the country until the mid 80's.
It is not a pleasant task that is ahead of the government and it would be impossible if they did not have a totalitarian regime that can enforce it's will. However we look at it, it is something that must be done, and perhaps the sooner the better.
Of course the fallout will be horrific until an entire generation has gone through the system.
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Well, we disagree. We do not think that totalitarian solutions comprise a necessary stage of the evolution of a given nation-state, even China.
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Posted by Tumbleweed Steve on 01/26/11 08:43 PM
Ummm. Excuse me please. But is that not pretty much what we have going on right here in the good old US of A? Look around, and you won't have to look far to see UN Agenda 21 regionalism at it's best right here.
Oh they don't call it that...but that does not mean we don't have it going on. Great Lakes Water Compact, Storm Water Runoff "utility" tax, sustainable this...sustainable that.
And the steady step by step move for the God blessed NAFTA Super Highway that will be owned or under the control of a foreign corporate interest...leading to the lease of most of our major turnpike infrastructure to the same.
Next will come the eminent domain claus to widen the route's. Then exit's will close here and there also. Look at the trend to level particular "bighted" whole neighborhood's in Detroit and other big city district's.
And then look at all those glorified rabbit hutch apartment complex's going in all over. Squeeze-em-in. While the burbs are going belly up due to lack of work for people, and so house's sit empty, foreclosed, and abandoned. Township's and village's going broke can't provide what they don't have money for because of sparse tax income. People not working don't pay income taxes. Oh it's happening. Right here...right now. Look around.
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Posted by Hugo on 01/26/11 07:47 PM
Enjoy the freegold trail DB.
If you like another sample piece please read this one;
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Another and his friend (FOA) are hard to link since there are no articles. Still I think physical gold is cornered and this is an elite promotion. Therefore silver (hard to control) is excluded from this meme.
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Thanks.
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Posted by Hugo on 01/26/11 05:40 PM
Hello again BD,
I didnt give you an example of the 'elite' promotion of freegold. ''Zoellick and gold"" is a nice one.
"The system should also consider employing gold as an international reference point of market expectations about inflation, deflation and future currency values,"
This was widely translated/reported as him wanting to go back to the goldstandard. It is not what he said. It should become a referencepoint! is what he said. SO he denied wanting to go back to a goldstandard. His words fit the freegold meme very well. All currencies refer to physical gold. Gold is to important to be tied down by currencies.
Semi off topic, the hivemind / superorganism meme is also what you follow? I like this piece of FOFOA about that;
Click to view link
(ofc related to physical gold)
Oil, physical gold, fiat and Elites all over the world are tied in very strange ways. That I know now.
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Great article.
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Posted by Christian A. Wittke on 01/26/11 04:42 AM
Thanks DB, I share most of your pictures, at least as long as I follow the old balance sheet rules.
The moment I am reminded of such fantastic concepts like Sovereign debts, Bad Banks, the Euro, the Dollar, QEx, Central Banks eating up their members' crap let alone the vast majority playing Global where Mr. Neo and Mrs. Lib have allowed China sharing the game but using its own rules, I find the question "who will be paying for all that" just too simple, naive if you allow.
The Chinese are intelligent people; of course, the immense pressure the country and its ruling party are under will result in solutions and living conditions that even science fiction authors not came up with. We will all pay ' we wanted it to be global, now we will have it global and we will pay...
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Posted by PB on 01/26/11 03:24 AM
Thanks again DB for everything you do! I watch AG21 like a hawk because it's knocking at my door of my community. It's fresh in my mind and felt compelled to share with others. In America the supposed land of the free.....
I failed to mention that I did see the Ventura episode that you mentioned. I've heard that they were not allowed to re-air the episode. I found some parts of it to be sensationalized " I'm not a big fan of Alex Jones. The most disturbing part was the Army Corp's $40B plan to relocate people which later I researched and confirmed. I hope he beats the TSA!
I've experienced hurricanes Katrina, Rita, Gustav, and Ike first hand. I've witnessed the creation of pseudo state government organizations as a result of the hurricanes. Pseudo (shadow state government)groups such as Louisiana Recovery Authority and Louisiana Speaks. The LRA was to sunset at the end of June 2010, yet it still floating around and having a direct impact on implementing agenda 21. Proof that government grows and is malignant like cancer.
For the city dwellers who fail to understand where food comes from, here's something that should should be reviewed. The 1928 Holomodor
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and find out what happens when massive quantities of farmers are moved by a dictator, under the name of Stalin. Transforming the bread basketful of Europe into starvation camps. It only took 5 years to complete.
Agenda 21 is hard to narrow down into a single item. I can only attempt to summarize it as a "master transformation" globally, into serfdom. It is Cap and Trade at the local level, removal of private property rights, and many other things. Agenda 21 won't happen over night. Only a few are seeing it, more and more are awaking.
Mix the following ingredients:
1) Fiat currencies across the globe are beginning to tumble.
2) Former Los Angeles Mayor predicts 90% of states and cities to go bankrupt within 5 years.
3) Ron Paul may have his way with the Fed Reserve after all these years. (Jackson, Lincoln, McKinley, Garfield, and JFK)
4) Agenda 21
5) Big Gov healthcare & death panels
6) Single world currency
7) The chip?
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End Result: The elitist playing the role of God leaving the surfs no property and no money.
Only time will tell...
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Posted by Turbomango on 01/26/11 03:21 AM
For those "who think Agenda 21 is a myth and not buying Agenda 21 as a reality" you are sorely mistaken. Unfortunately I find most people have to be bitten right on the nose by the monster, before they admit there is a monster.. and then still some just pretend it never happened.
The BOTTOM-UP infiltration of UN's Agenda 21 is orchestrated through State's Regional Planning Councils and counties. Depending on how large your state is, there are at least one regional planning council in each state. Most have more than 4.
All the counties in the US are now members of Click to view link. This entitles the moslty Liberal elected to follow the Agenda 21 agenda,... and they are told how to convince the residents that there is a water shortage due to climate warming so now water is expensive to residents, Suddenly water bills quadruple. WHy? Because UN corporation buy up rights of resources/PRIVATIZE BASIC NATURAL RESOURCES and SELL them to your State or county or Country.
MEMBERS of Agenda 2... look for signs such as an expensive water bill, smart meters for water, gas and electric, land grabs, terms like sustainable growth, or smart growth, and find your county on Click to view link In your city or town, they start with infiltrating one corrupt official, and then they bring in more until they have a full council who craft codes, bills or statutes, and pass them that are Agenda 21. Look for quotes of: sustainable growth,smart development, then they bring in the CITY PLANNERS and lawyers, and City Manager...and before you know it,your city has mixed use zoning (apartments over retail, apartments across or next to retail), non-profits with Communist committees on each block where they can evict you out of your home to level it by calling it BLIGHT (there have been instances when million dollar homes were declared "BLIGHT" to get people out of there...
Your county or city is paying dues to ICLEI.. which tells them how to implement all these corruptions and hw to circument Congress or State Legislators. Some Liberal States like California already have these laws on the books and are starving their farmers ot of business because they cut off the water to the farm because the land displayed a shortage of a fruit fly or sone other insect.
Crazy, yes. Real Yes.The only way we can stop this crap is for more of us to know. So, please pass it on.. with grace. It's hard for people to swallow at first. Here are some other links to convince you this is NOT a myth...BTW: I have at least six friends in different states in court NOW fighting over their land grabbed by the State Water Dept, Energy Dept or Bureau of Land Management. One of them has been fighting since 2005.
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Posted by Danford Vander Ploeg on 01/26/11 02:53 AM
Oregon's central planning has reduced the quality of life for us peons crowded ever more tightly into the city, but it has controlled the encroachment of the unwashed masses upon the estates of the wealthy. They call it "urban-growth boundaries."
One of the stated policies of the city planners is to make driving such a miserable experience that people will give up and use the unpleasant "public transportation" or walk. Much easier to control people who can't move around so much.
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Posted by AmanfromMars on 01/26/11 02:40 AM
"Government on the job from high above, seeking out cancer causing chemicals ..." ..... Reply from the Daily Bell to Posted by Larry Bush on 1/25/2011 9:18:35 AM
That makes a pleasant enough change from the other possibility, DB .....
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Is madness, a contrived contagion, or a binary viral infection to be pimped and pumped over virtual channels/media programs? Or just an evil which terrorises and terrifies lost souls and deluded fools and tools alike?
Whenever you know the secrets that allow you to survive and prosper in surreality, can you agree with the past grand master who said ... "The only difference between a mad man and me, is that I am not mad"
"You saved me the trouble of having to point out this possibility. People in the countryside are closer to the land and can depend on its resources for survival. People in cities are dependent on decreed and forcefully imposed social / economic arrangements. Plus, they are a nice concentrated target." .... Posted by Bill Ross on 1/25/2011 12:00:32 PM
The positive and constructive Yin to that negative and destructive Yang, Bill, is that in cities, with their better connected infrastures and advanced communications and technology channels, can the population be easily and quickly educated and entertained/edutained, to know of what SMART Societies have to Offer. Out in the comparative wilderness of the countryside, does one have to imagine all kinds of enterprise for oneself, and if one is short on information and education, is intelligence the first casualty to suffer catastrophic blows.
"There is a pie-in-the-sky proposal being floated to relocate people into viable areas, flatten old neighborhoods, and do 'urban farming' on the vacant land. ... There are only a few problems with the plan. People might resist forcible relocation. People won't buy even cleared vacant lots: the corruption, crime, obscene taxation, and byzantine regulations enforced by an army of thugs make all property in the jurisdiction worth negative value." .... Posted by John Danforth on 1/25/2011 12:09:54 PM
John, The Chinese model may be .... Build something magnificent and the people will flock to ensure it lives and thrives, and they will learn of what they need to do for SMARTer Societies to build Future Dream Scapes for following generations and their childrens' childrens' generation, which/who will grow up in a Brave New World in which they imagine that everything they see is just normal and natural, whereas we would know that IT built it, with Ideas communicating with Networks and Systems, and it is a wholly artificial and virtual Creation made especially for them to enjoy services and provisions in order to thrive and build ongoing futures, with their own imaginations shared for a collective real vision in an Immaculate See Model, IntelAIgently Designed generations/ages/centuries before.
And quite obviously would I be nailing my colours to the Light Being mast because of what was Posted by Light Being on 1/25/2011 12:30:26 PM
If one is to admit to oneslf that the present New World Order model is in crisis and deepening and expanding difficulties requiring unpopular and austere measures to survive, to change to an altogether different model allows for a complete change of fortune ...... which should be the Prime Davos Directive, to be discussed this week, and starting today, methinks.
"We don't understand where China is going to find the money for these ambitious projects." .... Oh, that's easy to answer, they'll just invent it when necessary, in just the same way that the West does, although in order that they do fall into the sticky, sweet honey traps which the West is now floundering in, they will spend it wisely rather than just waste it by giving millions and billions to a greedy few who have no idea how to use it, and even less of an idea as to how to use IT and the media to solve all of their crashing problems.
Are those Power Elite circles, such as would be the likes of a Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Skull and Bones club, World Bank, etc, etc., populated by dinosaurs, disenabled of future thinking?
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Posted by PB on 01/26/11 01:17 AM
Thank you DB for covering this! I watched a show on this that talked about how the Chinese peasant farmers would be relocated into high rise buildings, forced to change their lives and history forever. When people are all forced into the cities we will be dependent on everything from the government, thus receiving serf status, much like Egyptian times.
Agenda 21 is the action behind the 66 years of UN rhetoric. World Government is here. 800 cities across the globe have signed environmental accords. The Communist red curtain is being replaced with the environmentalist green curtain.
The International NGO called ICLEI, located in Germany, is the foundation level of funding and organizing begins. Click to view link
AG21 was implemented as soft law, verbal agreement, with GH Bush Sr on Prince Andrew's yacht
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Executive order number: 12852 was signed by Clinton on 6-29-1993 covering land use. GW Bush Jr continued with No Child Left Behind school programs and possibly others, followed by Obama with executive order no. 13547 6-19-2010
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that appears to cover water ways and water use. Four presidents, both of the left and right wing, with a single agenda. Rule number one of the Marxists communist manifesto is to convert land owners into land renters.
Smart Growth,Biodiversity, Sustainable Development, Master Plans, all pseudo names for Agenda 21, is alive and well in the State of Louisiana.
PUDS (Planned Urban Developments) are zoning overlays that allows developers to have full reign over property that is zoned originally by the people of the community. It suckers in new home buyers, and then allows for low and very low income, (future slums) tightly dense housing in the same vicinity thus new homes lose value shortly after.
It replaces residential lots, with neighborhood parks leaving citizens of the area to eat the costs through additional taxes. The land developer comes out like a bandit, while the local little big gov appears to have compassion for the home buyer. It's all crap! Pay close attention to PUD " TND and other acronyms describing property areas. This is all AG21 related.
Counties in Louisiana are referred to as Parishes. Furthermore there are master plans for the following:
Baton Rouge " Funded by Governator / Rockefeller Foundation
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about Ascension Parish " Livingston Parish " West Baton Rouge Parish " St. James Parish " The Atchafalaya Swamp
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And the Coastal areas of the Gulf Of Mexico.
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see page 21.
New Orleans is on the list of cities who have agreed to the Environmental Accords, but I've yet to see physical proof of the document, as was signed in Pasadena, CA " See below.
Mayors in the US who sign UN Environmental accords receive a certificate. This one comes from Pasadena, CA Click to view link Signing such documents is in violation of Article 1 Section 10 of the US constitution that prohibits mayors or states are to sign contracts with foreign entities.
America is the only nation in the world where the people manage resources, for now. Agenda 21 is nothing more than to force people in rural areas into cities so that big gov can have free reign over all resources. The scariest part about the entire thing is that people are resources too!
Population reduction up to 85% can be found within the 300 page 40 chapter UN documents. In Austin Texas, a grassroots group called TAG questioned the Austin Chief of Sustainable Development in regards to 85% population reduction and she acknowledged that the words were there, but felt the subject was too divisive.
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It is the role of government to protect property rights of the people, not to remove them. Landownership, not renting, is where true liberty exists! If anyone believes this cannot happen in the US I strongly suggest that you look up the word " normalcy bias. Agenda 21 is alive and well in the United States.
If you have never payed any attention to your city / parish / county council, then you had better start. Additionally pay attention to your local planning and zoning commissions. Hold the mini fascists feet to the fire and stop this from entering your community!
The ecofascist suffer from the Traffic Light Syndrome: Green is for people too Yellow to admit they're really Red
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Thanks for the links and sharing your evidently considerable knowledge regarding this issue.
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Posted by Wayne on 01/26/11 01:03 AM
No!
I'm shocked
Treachery and Deceit in the markets?
And I was unaware of that little snippet.
Thank You
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We were unaware too. But we were always uncomfortable with the contention that Tulipomania was the result of market failure. To the best of our knowledge the market does not fail absent human interference. Finally we found a white paper that advanced this explanation. (We don't remember where though. The elves are absent minded ...)
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Posted by Wayne on 01/26/11 12:28 AM
I just realized that not all the DB readers may be acquainted with the Tulip Bulb Bubble
When the Tulip Bubble Burst
TULIPOMANIA
The Story of the World's Most Coveted Flower
By Mike Dash
Crown Publishers 288pp $23
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When the Tulip Bubble Burst
PHOTO: Cover, ``Tulipomania''
Long before anyone ever heard of Qualcomm, CMGI, Cisco Systems, or the other high-tech stocks that have soared during the current bull market, there was Semper Augustus. Both more prosaic and more sublime than any stock or bond, it was a tulip of extraordinary beauty, its midnight-blue petals topped by a band of pure white and accented with crimson flares. To denizens of 17th century Holland, little was as desirable.
Around 1624, the Amsterdam man who owned the only dozen specimens was offered 3,000 guilders for one bulb. While there's no accurate way to render that in today's greenbacks, the sum was roughly equal to the annual income of a wealthy merchant. (A few years later, Rembrandt received about half that amount for painting The Night Watch.) Yet the bulb's owner, whose name is now lost to history, nixed the offer.
Who was crazier, the tulip lover who refused to sell for a small fortune or the one who was willing to splurge? That's a question that springs to mind after reading Tulipomania: The Story of the World's Most Coveted Flower and the Extraordinary Passions It Aroused by British journalist Mike Dash. In recent years, as investors have intentionally forgotten everything they learned in Investing 101 in order to load up on unproved, unprofitable dot-com issues, tulip mania has been invoked frequently. In this concise, artfully written account, Dash tells the real history behind the buzzword and in doing so, offers a cautionary tale for our times.
The Dutch were not the first to go gaga over the tulip. Long before the first tulip bloomed in Europe--in Bavaria, it turns out, in 1559--the flower had enchanted the Persians and bewitched the rulers of the Ottoman Empire. It was in Holland, however, that the passion for tulips found its most fertile ground, for reasons that had little to do with horticulture.
Holland in the early 17th century was embarking on its Golden Age. Resources that had just a few years earlier gone toward fighting for independence from Spain now flowed into commerce. Amsterdam merchants were at the center of the lucrative East Indies trade, where a single voyage could yield profits of 400%. They displayed their success by erecting grand estates surrounded by flower gardens. The Dutch population seemed torn by two contradictory impulses: a horror of living beyond one's means and the love of a long shot.
Enter the tulip. ''It is impossible to comprehend the tulip mania without understanding just how different tulips were from every other flower known to horticulturists in the 17th century,'' says Dash. ''The colors they exhibited were more intense and more concentrated than those of ordinary plants.'' Despite the outlandish prices commanded by rare bulbs, ordinary tulips were sold by the pound. Around 1630, however, a new type of tulip fancier appeared, lured by tales of fat profits. These ''florists,'' or professional tulip traders, sought out flower lovers and speculators alike. But if the supply of tulip buyers grew quickly, the supply of bulbs did not. The tulip was a conspirator in the supply squeeze: It takes seven years to grow one from seed. And while bulbs can produce two or three clones, or ''offsets,'' annually, the mother bulb only lasts a few years.
Bulb prices rose steadily throughout the 1630s, as ever more speculators wedged into the market. Weavers and farmers mortgaged whatever they could to raise cash to begin trading. In 1633, a farmhouse in Hoorn changed hands for three rare bulbs. By 1636 any tulip--even bulbs recently considered garbage--could be sold off, often for hundreds of guilders. A futures market for bulbs existed, and tulip traders could be found conducting their business in hundreds of Dutch taverns. Tulip mania reached its peak during the winter of 1636-37, when some bulbs were changing hands ten times in a day. The zenith came early that winter, at an auction to benefit seven orphans whose only asset was 70 fine tulips left by their father. One, a rare Violetten Admirael van Enkhuizen bulb that was about to split in two, sold for 5,200 guilders, the all-time record. All told, the flowers brought in nearly 53,000 guilders.
Soon after, the tulip market crashed utterly, spectacularly. It began in Haarlem, at a routine bulb auction when, for the first time, the greater fool refused to show up and pay. Within days, the panic had spread across the country. Despite the efforts of traders to prop up demand, the market for tulips evaporated. Flowers that had commanded 5,000 guilders a few weeks before now fetched one-hundredth that amount.
Tulipomania is not without flaws. Dash dwells too long on the tulip's migration from Asia to Holland. But he does a service with this illuminating, accessible account of incredible financial folly.
Tulip mania differed in one crucial aspect from the dot-com craze that grips our attention today: Even at its height, the Amsterdam Stock Exchange, well-established in 1630, wouldn't touch tulips. ''The speculation in tulip bulbs always existed at the margins of Dutch economic life,'' Dash writes. After the market crashed, a compromise was brokered that let most traders settle their debts for a fraction of their liability. The overall fallout on the Dutch economy was negligible. Will we say the same when Wall Street's current obsession finally runs its course?
Reply from The Daily Bell
Tulipomania was effectively caused by mandated changes to the Dutch futures markets, or so we read long ago. In other words, it was yet another manufactured crisis ...
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Posted by Wayne on 01/25/11 11:51 PM
You address many good points here. And, of course, China is engineering it's economy.
Find me a truly free market in the world. Surplus rubber bands on the black market of Mozambique? The is no truly free market in the world that I'm aware of. So investors are forced to play "reverse beauty contest"
That is, we invest in the least ugly alternative. So until now, China looked like the "least ugly alternative" Tomorrow, who knows? Perhaps we should give tulip bulbs another spin!
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Posted by Vauung on 01/25/11 10:30 PM
Wow, you guys really hate cities! Doesn't Jane Jacobs do anything for you?
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Posted by Arcturus Rex on 01/25/11 10:17 PM
"It is control that the power elite is after"
Indeed. Moving a rural agrarian population to the city is overt control. A government that sought individual freedom and liberty would encourage the division and settlement of agricultural land rather than the concentration of population in a non-productive urban environment that was dependent on its agrarian ancestors.
Perhaps I'll be blunt. The Chinese government (along with the entire Anglosphere) are creating targets. What does one do with excess population? These high density areas will be a breeding ground for pestilence on a grand scale never before seen. They are targets for annihilation.
We should be facilitating independence. Grow your own food, trade your excess with you neighbors for goods you don't have. Move your children to a city? What kind of world are these people planning?
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Posted by RF on 01/25/11 09:45 PM
The Great Wall was built by chinese when they needed to unify under one emperor , they are substancialy the same people now as then-= the West keeps thinking by applying it's standards, they can calculate the Chinese "disaster" ...
In truth, a country with 2 billion people- a city of 40 million is relitive NYC has 20 million and if we add the Jersey suburbs-- Connecticut lower NYS they have 40 million in the urban sprawl as is-- the Chinese built the Great Wall with several ideals one was keeping thje population busy mightn't the megacity be simply thier modern translation of the same " and not specualtion at all-- they build with lots of labor--
They have a huge labor population to support such projects, the kind of pride in doing so we in the West can no longer find- we'd rather squabble among ourselves ...
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Posted by Vauung on 01/25/11 08:57 PM
If microbes re-order their operational preferences in response to changes in supply and demand (that is what 'supply and demand' means, is it not?), then they are acting praxeologically. The restriction of praxeology to 'human action' is thus contested. Abandon the false modesty. There's no need to back away from your own genius.
Reply from The Daily Bell
Given such perspicuity, we shall let you have the last word.
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