Great analysis. It coincides 100% with my view on the subject, thanks for taking the time to write it so clearly.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Thanks for the kind words.

How many conspiracy theories can you weave into one op-ed piece? This "Anglosphere" stuff sounds about as reputable as talk of an International Jewish Banking Conspiracy, or the Illuminati.

If I were more conspiracy-minded myself, I'd say the writer of this column was the one involved in a conspiracy to discredit the pro-freedom uprisings sweeping the Middle East.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Nonsense. Go read the Telegraph article about how the US TRAINED Egyptian youth to agitate via color revolutions for TWO YEARS prior to the current regime change. For three years the US has been holding ORGANIZED CONFERENCES on regime change - arranging for youth groups to fly in worldwide. Hillary Clinton was a keynote speaker in 2009.

You are certainly not conspiracy minded. You don't read much either. However, you have arrived here at the tiny Bell. This means you actually do a lot of 'Net surfing. Which means you DO read a lot. Which means you are merely a troll.

This all seems to be part of the creation of a Marxist New World Order!I happen to know that Egypt will become part of a coming caliphate of Islam in the latter days! However, I do believe that whoever made Obama President also plans to use Islam(Anti-Messiah, like Marxism) to bring about this coming Marxist(also Anti-Messiah)New World Order that Obama also had promised for America when he campaigned for President(i.e., to make a "fundamental tranformation" of our government). Remember? Watch!

@ DB

Another jigsaw piece:

"Wikileaks and Intelligence Computers – Wikileaks founder worked on U.S. intelligence computer espionage system in 1990s"

"Wikileaks founder Julian Assange was not always considered a pariah by the U.S. intelligence community. In fact, according to a knowledgeable source who once worked on sophisticated computer security programs for the U.S. intelligence community at Oak Ridge National Laboratory, Assange helped develop, at the time, a state-of-the-art computer surveillance tool for use by the U.S. intelligence community, one that ended up being used by the National Security Agency and CIA.
Assange, according to our source, performed his technical work at Sandia National Laboratories in New Mexico, where the Defense Information Systems Agency (DISA) conducted computer surveillance work in a relatively unclassified setting as compared to the NSA."

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I don't know what Presstv's agenda is but:

'Egyptians aware of US hijack plan'

"This is not a revolt for an occupier; this is not a revolt for the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood; it is a revolt for the Egyptian youth and that's where the real challenge emerges in the upcoming period."

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As an afterthought didn't that happen to Iran after the Shah was deposed? It's the only country I can think of.

@DB

"There is only one thing the Egyptians need to do now. Get rid of their central bank. All else will flow from that. Probably won't happen though."

That would bring fireworks. Think you're right that it probably won't happen but it would be interesting to see the reaction if it did. I know that only a handful of countries in the world are without central banks. Do you know of any nations in recent history that had a central bank then kicked them out and what the consequences were? Presumably it would be war but...

"Governments can't do it alone. Citizens, organizations, businesses, universities ' everyone with a stake in our shared future must take responsibility for shaping it. That's what we call 21st century statecraft. " [Hillery Clinton quote]

What is "it" that Clinton refers to as "[g]overnments can't do...alone"? Complete enslavement of the common individual to the State? Are the individual young people who think they are working for their own liberty doing so solely along the lines of recommendations from current rulers and/or backing power brokers who have this overall plan in mind? To the last, I think most are smarter than the Western gov people give them credit for.

Comparisons of today's almost instantaneous worldwide communication to era of Gutenberg press and the Renaissance are of limited value. I am getting dozens of Twitters all over from the Middle East every hour " these are concise snips from the senders directly or retweeted by others and inform me of events, thoughts and/or emotions taking place or experienced by individuals. Queries, comments and updates are frequent " by numerous parties since anyone can search the "cloud" for terms (used with #) or just words used in tweets. There is little that need go unnoticed or unresponded to.

"Then comes "aftermath" that must inevitably resolve itself into Western-centric regulatory democracies, including manipulative central banks, endless, intrusive, brand-intensive corporatism and, generally, spirit-sapping regulatory democracy. Alternatively, the Anglosphere's revolutions end up generating Islamic republics ' but that's OK too. Islamic Republics come in handy in building a larger Islamic enemy that provides justification for further authoritarian depredations at home."

I disagree that these are the alternatives. Questions that can and should be asked " and I have been putting them out in the Twittersphere, lately heavily directed toward the Middle East: "Why does the individual still need to be ruled by others? Is there not a better way now to achieve social order than by some centralized governing body to which an individual can, at best, only have an effect if part of a majority casting votes for a particular candidate/bond/referendum in a particular election?"

The nature of human beings does not automatically lead to the conclusion that individuals must be ruled by others in order that there be orderly interactions between them. Society, just like any other natural system can be naturally self-regulating by means of interactions between its members, if only humans seek to discover and are allowed to implement the methods by which such self-regulation can be effective, rather than continuing to embrace social systems that need to be constantly held in an unnatural (and very unoptimal) state of balance by the operations of their rulers and other influencers. Individual self-order without rule by others is the social system whose members are fully adult (particularly meaning self-responsible) humans. Just as people can become physical adults, so can they become psychological and social adults " if only they are allowed (and even required in the sense that they will not achieve their desires unless they do) to socially mature sufficiently.

Rulers/governments ("power elites") promote and foster dependency of individuals *on* government and fear of a society without it. Self-responsibility, self-order and self-regulation " all aspects of social maturity " are *not* the qualities of people that those who are or seek to become rulers, or to be "friends" of the same, want to have prevalent.

Understanding the social interaction methodology by which more individuals would progress to become fully socially mature adults requires a paradigm shift in thinking about human interactions. For an introduction to understanding this social interaction methodology " "Social Meta-Needs: A New Basis for Optimal Interaction" " Click to view link

"The mainstream media is not covering ongoing (considerable) unrest in Tunisia anymore.."
I contend that MSM is rapidly becoming totally irrelevant to most young people and even some considerably older. (I at near 66 and my very mentally/physically agile almost 73 yr old husband both get our news worthy information via the Internet; haven't watched TV in years! We each have uptodate laptops connected via a local network, stream all types of music & are active on the Internet daily.)

"Perhaps Wael Ghonim ... doesn't know.."
Whatever Wael Ghonim didn't know 6 weeks or 6 months ago he has since found out on his own or been informed by likely a dozen differnt people via Twitter in the open or via direct messages. And if he moves in a direction that is counter to the wants of those who "follow" (Twitter-wise) him, they will know it within days if not hours. There is little that one who is public can " and properly should- keep concealed from one's associates. (Concealing from government is desirable but until enforcers are few, as a result of much negative Social Preferencing, they can and mostly will find out what they think will benefit interests of the rulers.)

"And certainly the elite wants to be seen as participating in the transformative power of the 'Net. It may even be that they've realized the inevitability of convulsive change and are trying to get out ahead of it and to control it via such artifices as AYM."

Those in power " elected or not " will seek to stay there and enlarge their sphere. But as always, it is the enforcers that make it all possible. Without those who are willing to inititiate physical force against others, all the power elites (PE) in the world " elected or simply behind those who are " are simply (mostly) wealthy word-weavers. They themselves do not get out and enforce their various plans/directives/mandates/laws/etc " "put the screws to people" " and most never did, as compared to Mafia dons who were arm/leg-breakers in their youth. The government enforcers are key!

The above is something else I've been putting out in the Twittersphere almost every day, as the tweets prompt such a reply, along with the following, in very brief. Selective (discriminating) association to exclude those who cause harm " and also toward those who support such harm-causing " is a potentially very powerful method of non-violent action, referred to as ostracism and shunning by many down through the ages. It is included in Gene Sharp's 2nd volume (of 3), "The Politics of Nonviolent Action", Chapter 4, "The Methods of Social Noncooperation". I and husband Paul Wakfer began to use the term "negative Social Preferencing" for purposeful non-voluntary association (contrasted with positive Social Preferencing towards those who do provide value) many years ago and have described how it is the ultimate effector of social order in a truly free society (The Freeman Society) " Click to view link

"I stand with the Egyptians in their heroic struggle and wish them well, though the hard part may be yet to come."

I echo this also, here and on Twitter, in my comments at Al Jazeera English and elsewhere on the Internet!

Reply from The Daily Bell

There is only ONE THING the Egyptian people need to do now. Get rid of the Egyptian central bank. Shut it down. Move Egypt back to some sort of real money standard via marketplace money competition. This will assure the future of Egypt and provide wealth and prosperity for its inhabitants. All else pales in comparison.

@Stas

So it's been all for nothing then? You sound like a troll.

@DB

"The sad thing is that there is plenty of evidence that the Muslim Brotherhood has ties to Anglo-American intel and cannot be considered an entirely independent, homegrown entity ... The Egyptians may end up with an Islamic Sharia regime, but one that is heavily penetrated and even controlled to a degree by Western intel types."

The Muslim Brotherhood are not in power yet but...

If it's the case that the brotherhood has ties to the western elite then why did the CIA try so hard to get rid of the Islamic regime in the Green revolution? I know there are games and games within games but it seems contradictory; desperately try to get rid of one Islamic regime in Iran yet install another in Egypt a year or two later. Surely one Sharia regime, Iran, would be enough if the Anglosphere wanted a pretext to crack down on the war on terror in the West? They also exploit nationals from other Arab states (Yemen, Sudan) to further their cause.

I'm probably missing something but the two colour revolutions (if that is what the Egyptian uprising really was) seem to be different. In the Green revolution you had an elitist puppet (Mousavi?) groomed to take over when the mullahs fell. Of course there is Elbaradei in Egypt's case but he almost seems like an afterthought returning to Egypt after all those years abroad, and it now looks like he's not interested in the job anyway.

There was also the situation in Iran where that young female protester was shot dead and the western media made such a big deal out of it. I forget the details but I recall it was suspicious since there was apparently evidence to suggest she'd been hit by the very people staging the attempted coup and who she was unknowingly supporting.

In Egypt's case there seemed to be less emphasis on protestors being killed and targeting the blame for this on big, bad Mubarak in my opinion, at least in the mainstream media. In fact the Obama admin wavered back and forth between supporting Mubarak and not. Quite different to Iran's case I think.

Anyway assuming the worst and the Muslim Brotherhood are minions of the power elite how are they going to enhance the PE's agenda in any great way that Iran is not already doing now, if they gain power? Again I think the Egyptians and people generally will see through this.

Reply from The Daily Bell

There is only one thing the Egyptians need to do now. Get rid of their central bank. All else will flow from that. Probably won't happen though.

If you would like to explore at least some of those 'locked up' histories go to Click to view link and you'll find thousands of histories that are unavailable in any library anywhere, many dating from 2-300 years ago. All free to download, by the way. And if you can read in any language other than English, this source is all that much richer. It is a virtually inexhaustible resource.

"The Venetians may have funded Martin Luther and his Reformation to split the Church, and further funded other schisms."

Dear DB, having followed your column with great interest for over two years now, I would have credited you with a better grasp of factual history than that!

Once Martin Luther understood that "Salvation is by faith," (i.e. not by "self-righteous works") he nailed his 95 Theses to the Church door out of personal conviction and conscience!

Some would claim that the same Church that hunted and hounded Mr. Luther thereafter..... is the same Church that is reportedly complicit with today's 'military and money merchants', marching towards World Government !

At DB, you are studiously insightful and refreshingly objective on many fronts. But are you missing a crucial element here?

The third major force in this 'new global governance' so-called, is decidedly spiritual in nature. And by far the vast majority of all mortals actively pursue the spiritual dimension of our human existence, through one avenue or another.

To avoid or ignore this crucial dynamic in world affairs, is to severely limit one's chances of fully grasping both causes and implications of current realities.

Herein lies the call for discernment! Not all who run for President under the guise of being "born again", are necessarily possessors of "the faith that leads to eternal life".... as the fruits of their actions and policies eventually prove to a dissillusioned (and betrayed?) populace!

The "true Church" resides in the hearts of men, people of every race and language. What is it that emboldens truth-seekers to give their all in the Irans, Chinas, and Sudans of our day?

Is it not the exact same faith (not funding) that motivated Huss, Wycliffe, and Zwingli, etc., along with Martin himself, back in Luther's time? Such self-sacrificing faith-in-action, is the real antidote to today's corruption, violence and injustice.

Yes, the globalists will have their day. But it will be short-lived, in the grand scheme of things! A brighter day follows, dear Reader! Personal, saving faith (not private, secret funding) will write the last chapter to our amazing human history!

Thank you, DB, for your objective consideration! Keep looking up !

Reply from The Daily Bell

Thanks for the post. We used the word "may" as it is difficult to parse 500 years of history - especially as much of this history is apparently locked up in private European libraries. But it is nonetheless, a hypothesis that has some traction on the 'Net.

Last night I was reading a book about some end-time prophecies made by a very insightful hierarch a few decades ago. He said, in essence, that in the end, former monarchical or even despotic governments would be replaced with democracies, as this would be the easiest to co-opt into the demonic plan for the New World Order.

I can see this all following his vision. Many new democracies springing up, and then, they will be drawn into the net by the Antichrist himself. You can look at the Anglosphere, or the black nobility, or any other configuration you like. All those groups are pawns, too. It really is fascinating! Please prepare yourselves.

@Bluebird

For what it is worth, I support the DB in their "Jew" debate.

I am with you on this as well....

Jews come in two groups , just like all of us...those whose God is Money ...and those who believe in an eventual self -realization...that there is a higher power then puny humans....
Because there are on a % basis more wealthy Jews ....many believe all Jews are materialists...and this is wrong.

@David Robertson

Thank you for the thoughtful post. I appreciate your comments and certainly admire your desire for growth.

Suffice it to say I do not see (as you do) much of a distinction between some of the comments attributed to Dr. Jones and those of others as it relates to the end times or to a Biblical view of current events. Perhaps it is solely due to my lack of diving into his details. Whenever I have poked into such "teachings" in the past, I have found the logical basis of the teaching less than satisfactory.

So I don't dive into it anymore. In any case, God will reveal his plan in His time. I can't do much about it other than be prepared. Such is my focus, both in the physical world and in the spiritual.

One more reminder:
Saudie Arabia Ruler THE 86 year ruler is DEAD.

Now Obama is in peculiar position. What's next ..........

To those Freedom lovers that revolted in Cairo;

1.You got Mubarack out of Cairo, but not out of Egypt,

2.You going to have same government as Iran after their revolting some 30 years ago.

3. The cleansing of the people will be done as it was done in Iran (Persia) after Shah left in 1979.

4. The USA is not going save Mubarakh nor the people of Egypt; the Brotherhood will take over.

Saalem Ahleikum

@Vauung

"So what, exactly, have the Egyptian people achieved?"

"(1) For starters take a look around your house. See any 'Made in Egypt' labels? Didn't think so. Conclusion #1 Egyptians have totally failed to build a modern society that produces anything that anybody wants. We can argue about why this might be. I very much doubt that culture is irrelevant."

I was talking about their incredible efforts to overturn Mubarak, that's what they've achieved, with or without interference from outside influences. They've been under a frikin dictator backed by the PTB for 30 years. Do you really expect more?

That would have seemed preposterous to me just a couple of months ago, but recent events have substantiated your analysis remarkably.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Annie sez wait 'til "tomorrow."

I'm not meaning to pick on Gavin, but he's exemplifying a type right now, as romantic universal revolutionism disconnects the brain.

Take this:

"the lack of belief in the Egyptian people after what they've achieved is surprising to me."

So what, exactly, have the Egyptian people achieved?

(1) For starters take a look around your house. See any 'Made in Egypt' labels? Didn't think so. Conclusion #1 Egyptians have totally failed to build a modern society that produces anything that anybody wants. We can argue about why this might be. I very much doubt that culture is irrelevant.

(2) But the 'achievement' provoking this euphoria isn't about anything so prosaic as practical development. Instead, its all about the giant street party that toppled an incompetently liberalizing Arab autocracy, without any idea whatsoever what comes next. All the 'what comes now ' ideas seen in the West are sheer projection, and mostly pretty comical, envisaging a highly traditionalist Arab nation as some kind of emerging libertarian paradise, a 'horizontal society' in embryo.

Strange thing is, there is one (and only one) Egyptian group that has a coherent view of what comes next: (yes, you guessed it) the Muslim Brotherhood, and what they've got in mind -- tyrannical piety under Sharia as sole constitution -- will make the Mubarak Era seem like a golden age.

If you think it's going to go differently, who's going to stop the MB? The Egyptian Libertarian Front? I'm not seeing it ...

Reply from The Daily Bell

The sad thing is that there is plenty of evidence that the Muslim Brotherhood has ties to Anglo-American intel and cannot be considered an entirely independent, homegrown entity ... The Egyptians may end up with an Islamic Sharia regime, but one that is heavily penetrated and even controlled to a degree by Western intel types.

Thanks DB & contributors.

AManromMars,-you have stunning posts.

Ya-the 'VaticanVault' Always resonates.
HOW have they kept a grip on Earth so long :-/

Money supply ,thats not taxed -that be the end of 'them'. We do'nt need 'States' usurping & pillaging.Local justice & a horizontal Earth!!!