Editorial
Osama bin Laden Is Dead Again?
America's number one enemy is dead. "I can report to the American people and to the world that the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda and a terrorist who is responsible for the murder of thousands of innocent men, women and children," US President Barack Obama said during a statement from the White House Sunday evening.
This is actually the second time a high-ranking official has made such an announcement. On YouTube, you may find a video available online with over 1.6 million views of Benazir Bhutto explaining to David Frost that Osama bin Laden was murdered in the early 2000s. We carry it in our video archive and you can view it here: Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden was murdered.
According to the video caption, the BBC censored the clip, then reinstated it and claimed they had not censored it after all. The program aired on 2nd November 2007, before Bhutto was assassinated, and David Frost the presenter "did not challenge her on her assertion (at 2:14 on the clip) that Bin Laden was murdered. It would make sense that the West would cover up such a truth, as Bin Laden was needed as a "bogeyman" to continue the farcical "War on Terror."
There are other reports that bin Laden died of kidney failure even earlier than Bhutto claimed. But he has probably been dead for years. Apparently the last confirmable sightings of bin Laden came when he was traveling around Los Angeles back in the 1990s under the name "Tim Osman." He was meeting with his CIA handlers presumably. Later on he would show up in France (just before 9/11) for kidney treatment. He had bad kidneys.
He went to Afghanistan and from a cave full of the latest technology he launched an attack on America. But he denied he had anything to do with the attack. The Taliban offered to turn him over if the Bush Administration could prove his involvement. The Bush administration declined and then invaded. To this day the FBI does not list bin Laden as "most wanted" for the 9/11 attacks. Now presumably they will delist him entirely.
Throughout the 2000s presumably phony videos were released of bin Laden. They were static, videos with only live audio and consisted of badly taped announcements playing over the face of bin Laden. Recently bin Laden's son looked at the video tapes from around the time of the 9/11 attacks and proclaimed that he was not sure they contained images of his father. So even the initial pre- and post-9/11 images of bin Laden are in question.
Of course the questions go back to the al-Qaeda fighters that the CIA helped train and fund to fight the Russians in the 1980s. Al-Qaeda means "list" and a conspiratorial interpretation of the al-Qaeda menace would include a perspective that a CIA patsy – bin Laden – had been set up to lead a CIA funded "list" of Islamic fundamentalist youth. In other words al-Qaeda comprised an American intel operation.
9/11 precipitated what has begun to turn into World War III (see other Bell story today – UN Strong-Arming Little Sri Lanka Is World's Biggest Untold Story?). Who knows why the American administration chose to make this presumably phony announcement now. They just released President Obama's possibly phony "original" birth record, so prospective CIA counterfeiters may be having a busy week. Perhaps the war in Afghanistan is going so badly that by announcing the "death" of bin Laden, the Pentagon can pave the way for a graceful exit before the Taliban blows up even more NATO brass with its adolescent suicide bombers.
Or perhaps this is some sort of "kiss-and-make-up" joint venture between the Pakistan ISI and the US CIA. The two intelligence agencies have been feuding lately and a wonderful (phony) victory over bin Laden might be a way of clearing the air. Presumably the ISI shall "confirm" bin Laden's death.
Could it be that such events are portents of more ominous events yet to come? One would be more comforted if the US had paraded bin Laden's body before the cameras and brought him back to the US for forensic testing. Instead this is what they did according to Canadian Broadcasting (CBC) article: "U.S. personnel took bin Laden's remains, which were buried at sea, a U.S. official said. Finding a country willing to accept the body for burial within 24 hours, in keeping with Islamic tradition, would have been difficult, the official said."
This is what the US did with the world's most wanted terrorist. They dropped him into the sea? The phony pictures of gruesomeness will likely come later. And what has been the public reaction? According to the CBC article we quote (above) "As news of bin Laden's death spread, crowds also began to gather outside the White House. After Obama confirmed the death, the crowd burst into chants of 'U.S.A.'"
More from the CBC article (as good as any other on this matter): "George W. Bush, who was president when al-Qaeda attacked the U.S., said the fight against terror continues 'but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.'"
In Abbotsford, B.C., Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper was quoted by the CBC as saying the death of bin Laden "secures a measure of justice for those Canadians and the their families ... bin Laden's death does not end the threat of international terrorism. Sadly, others will take his place."
"Others" have likely been taking bin Laden's place for a long time.
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Posted by turtle995 on 07/21/11 02:56 PM
Al-Qaeda means "the base".
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Posted by RebeccaGrrl on 06/26/11 12:37 PM
It appears the premise of this entire article sits upon the comment made in passing by Benazir Bhutto during her interview with David Frost in 2007. I am not comfortable to simply agree and having watched the video wondered to myself if this indeed was what she meant or could she perhaps have misspoke...
I found this alternate video on youtube: http://youtu.be/2IIn_UnLO9I. As a respectable news organization, why doesn't The Daily Bell investigate this claim further... have you tried contacting David Frost to ask why he did not clarify this comment by Bhutto? Has anyone else done that?
Anyway, as much as I respect your publication I cannot follow your suppositions when based upon a shaky conspiracy story.
Reply from The Daily Bell
There is plenty of other speculation on his death going back to 2001. There is NO evidence that he was alive throughout the first decade of the 2000s, unless on believes the strange audio tapes that al Qaeda supposedly released, many of which seem to have been created instead by American Intel.
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Posted by deanbo on 06/08/11 12:29 AM
Again and again...
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Posted by Justsaying on 05/31/11 03:27 PM
Re: Osama dead again. It's like waiting for the other shoe to drop. Most of the world knows something is up.
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A very good point!
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Posted by AmericanPackMule on 05/09/11 12:20 PM
When Government has Conqured all religions... Government has Conqured all!
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Posted by AmericanPackMule on 05/09/11 12:13 PM
Im wateing for proof that Bin, was any danger to U.S, I don't trust the interpiters... I do have proof that Bush Sr. Braged of using Bunker Busters in the midle east. Our Solders have been romming around there for a long time!
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Posted by Zenbillionaire on 05/07/11 08:57 PM
@ tjdetmers
"Wreath laying at ground zero? Taliban promising revenge? I think this is a setup towards the next "mainline event" which will chase ever more people into the worthless US $"
Congratulations. You win the prize,
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Posted by tjdetmers on 05/07/11 11:15 AM
Thank you for the article. I would like to recommend that you familiarize yourself a bit with Christopher Story's work.
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Both of you sound very much like voices in the wilderness.
As one of the Canadian sheeple....I watch in amazement at the choreographed newscasts. It is so predictable that, as a peasant on the land....I can predict the next step.
Wreath laying at ground zero? Taliban promising revenge? I think this is a setup towards the next "mainline event" which will chase ever more people into the worthless US $.
When the US $ rolls off of the reserve currency cliff" it will be the ordinary folks who will find out that they have been hoodwinked for a long time.....by their own leadership.
Thanks again for your newsletter. I recommend you to my friends.....some of whom think my elevator does not get to the top anymore:)
Reply from The Daily Bell
Are you being mocked because you read us? Give us names!
We will release the Gnomes (the hell with the elves) and they will never bother you again. You will never even hear from them again. In fact, you will never find hide nor hair from them anymore! These Gnomes are good and thrifty cooks. They are always hungry as we do not pay them much. They supplement their income by hunting and gathering.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 05/05/11 02:52 AM
"We should all know that we are watching a Hollywood production here.
Just where is this plot heading?" ..... Posted by Wayne on 05/04/11 04:17 AM
Very perceptive, Wayne, although I would put money on it being more a Hollywood type production from the likes of a Holywood Palace Barracks Operation with Spooky Stealth Systems to the forefront and centre, rather than imagining it being anything remotely related to anything Hollywood itself produces. As Masters of Production of the Spectacular BlockBuster Narrative Movie though, does Hollywood have its own part to play in the Great Game Games.
And "Just where is this plot heading?" is akin to asking, "How long is a piece of string?" and depends entirely/absolutely upon the options available and presented, and the Strength in Depth of Driver Intellectual Property.
[blockquote]IT's Elementary Watson and IBM Code Crack for NEUKlearer Information Release.
Posted Thursday 5th May 2011 06:55 GMT
"And now everyone can look forward to bugged, incomplete games from them now. Yay!" ... Head Posted Thursday 5th May 2011 01:17 GMT
Hmmm ....... and how else, Head, do you imagine your future wishes are catered for, if not via the use of bugged, incomplete games.
In days of yore, was the artificial hare of a cry, "It's the economy, stupid " . That has been further refined and concentrated in research for development to the much stronger and more potent "It's all in the narrative dummy"
And a "narrative dummy"? Well, that would be a real virtual comforter.
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"Or did someone just plain miscalculate in a desperate attempt to salvage Obama's re-election chances?" .... An alien response to that would be surely yes, or no if Obama is aware of all of the above and is ready, willing and able to make full and good use of IT.
Reply from The Daily Bell
Or did someone just plain miscalculate i
it seems to be coming clear that they "miscalculated." Now the Administration is refusing to comment further on bin Laden's death (the biggest story of the decade).
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Posted by Wayne on 05/04/11 11:04 PM
To those who say that the government would never lie to us!
'In the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods.
It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. These people know only too well how to use falsehood for the basest purposes.' -ADOLPH HITLER', 1925.
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Posted by Wayne on 05/04/11 08:56 PM
BM.
Sometimes those old chestnuts/saying are true.
Stupid is what stupid does!
Stupid is Forever!
And they are breeding!
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Posted by Reader on 05/04/11 11:17 AM
Apres moi, le deluge.
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Posted by bionic mosquito on 05/04/11 08:46 AM
"Are Americans so stupid as not to see through this ruse?"
For Obama, Big Rise in Poll Numbers After Bin Laden Raid
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Posted by Wayne on 05/04/11 04:17 AM
BM
Hmmm!
So the real question is why did they kill off a great story? Whether or not any real person was killed is conjectural, as they have already destroyed the evidence of this alleged person. Are Americans so stupid as not to see through this ruse?
We should all know that we are watching a Hollywood production here.
Just where is this plot heading?
Perhaps the real question is, who is the Director of this spectacle?
Or did someone just plain miscalculate in a desperate attempt to salvage Obama's re-election chances?
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Posted by Jennifer on 05/03/11 08:15 PM
I am a little disappointed that @mspengler didn't respond to this... I was curious about this.
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Posted by Jennifer on 05/03/11 07:46 PM
@DB
I saw this too, THANK YOU Anthony Wile for your absolute fearless honesty on this matter. Oh what will it take to raise the average American from their (induced) slumber?
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Posted by FreeWolfe68 on 05/03/11 04:47 PM
Just saw Anthony Wile on RT. The guy ROCKED in his answers to the questions and clearly made the announcer feel a bit out of sort. Click here and watch the live interview, it is towards the bottom of the page
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Posted by Dawny on 05/03/11 03:36 PM
Operation Geronimo.
I just read on Wikipedia about Skull & Bones member Prescott Bush and his friends stealing Geronimo's skull and bones. And how Barack Obama has recently been sued for those remains to be returned to Geronimo's descendants for reburial so that, according to their beliefs, his spirit can rest.
I find the name of the most recent Obama mission very interesting indeed. And I see very little difference between the Bushes and the Obamas. Neither one seems to have much respect for Native Americans or Muslims or life in general, except their own. Was this mission name some sort of mockery toward the descendants of Geronimo?
Leaders my foot. These men are acting out pre-pubescent Ouija board games with very expensive weapons and expendable young men as their toy soldiers. They need to be committed as mentally unstable and yet they are lauded as heroes. Disgusting.
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Posted by bionic mosquito on 05/03/11 12:24 PM
"We should have made this point more strongly. This is perhaps the most disturbing part of the entire affair. And the language the papers are using! He was "tapped" in the head, etc."
Apparently is was a kill mission from the beginning, not a capture mission gone bad.
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Posted by bionic mosquito on 05/03/11 11:20 AM
"So, Osama-bin-Laden is gone. I am not shedding any tears over him."
Shed tears or not, the man was wanted for crimes by the FBI (but NOT 9/11). He was not tried, he was not judged, he was not convicted.
Assuming there is any truth to the story being told...
Military agents of the US Government traveled into a foreign land 10,000 miles away. The US Government is not at war with this foreign country. The agents entered the private home of this man in a foreign land with which the US is not at war, and killed him.
Certainly, it is not the first time that a political assassination has taken place by agents of the US government. However, it may be one of the first when the President publicly bragged about it.
And the people cheered.
Shed a tear for this.
This is lawlessness. It violates every principle of international law and of the US Constitution.
Shed a second tear for this.
"It is quite impossible for twenty members of a Seal Team to take part in a fake raid and not have the real story be revealed."
DB has answered this well. I second the comments. I do not understand how you could believe this, but then we all live in our own realities, don't we.
Reply from The Daily Bell
We should have made this point more strongly. This is perhaps the most disturbing part of the entire affair. And the language the papers are using! He was "tapped" in the head, etc.
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