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Will Bin Laden's Death Justify More War?
Osama bin Laden killing: Victory in the war on terror is now within the West's reach After Osama bin Laden's death, we can finally destroy al-Qaeda and finish the job in Afghanistan. – UK Telegraph/ Con Coughlin
Dominant Social Theme: Use this opportunity to kill a lot more people?
Free-Market Analysis: The Telegraph's truculent war columnist Con Coughlin is in full cry post bin Laden. Our point regarding the al-Qaeda chief's demise, made yesterday, was that the West had designed it in order to quit Afghanistan "with honor." The probably false death of bin Laden was designed to smooth the way for this event. But as certain feedbackers pointed out yesterday, and as Coughlin now points out, there are other possibilities, other dominant social themes. According to Coughlin, bin Laden's death provides the West with a new opportunity to win its various wars. In this article, we'll examine that possibility.
For Coughlin and others who think like him, the peace dividend is always to be spent pursuing further war. This is generally an elite meme anyway. The Anglo-American elite uses war as a main tool of control. But sometimes it is more effective than at other times. We believe that the Western elites may have miscalculated as regards their world-spanning ambitions in large part due to the Internet that is destroying their fear-based schemes as fast as they can be applied.
If so, war (society-reshaping war) may not be an option at the moment. A "long war" may be all they can manage (one which involves various societies in low-intensity conflicts over a long period of time), and long wars (as opposed to a 20th century world war) are merely a way of controlling social change, not radically reconfiguring global society. Why settle for a long war? Because the West is topping into the abyss financially and the elite lacks the tools to radically reshape perceptions thanks to the new communications technology.
Wars need to be carefully cultivated, especially in their initial phases. But it seems the elites are having a good deal of trouble controlling the message these days. Getting OUT of resource-draining wars may be all they can manage at the moment. Ordinarily such wars wouldn't be a problem in our view, but right now they are, given people's perceptions of the waste and ruin involved. The Afghan war has gone on too long and the elites could be in danger of losing control of the message to an irrecoverable degree.
Coughlin admits as much in the article excerpted above; that the common wisdom is that bin Laden's death will "speed up" the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan. He is well aware that the grounds have been prepared for a diminution of war. He admits that British Prime Minister David Cameron recently indicated that a rapid draw down was more likely post bin Laden than before.
He even quotes Barney Frank (as we did yesterday) on the issue: "We went there to get Osama bin Laden. And we have now gotten him." Republicans, he points out are more worried about the cost, which is running at $100 billion a year. He also allows that President Barack Obama might be tempted to use the death as a way to extricate America from the war. Coughlin asks, "What better campaign slogan for next year's presidential contest than 'First we got bin Laden, and then we got the hell out?'"
But he is prepared to argue the other side, and to give voice to a more aggressive meme. Coughlin is giving voice to another possibility, just as some DB feedbackers did yesterday. Below, then, we'll present Coughlin's points along with certain rebuttals in order to examine a full spectrum of war-related possibilities. We believe the Afghan war itself is at a critical juncture, and as we pointed out yesterday such a juncture may actually involve the high-water mark of the Anglo-American empire, so these are not insignificant issues. Back to Coughlin.
Having made the anti-war case, Coughlin predictably reverses it. "Hang on a minute," he writes, "just because we no longer have to endure bin Laden's rambling anti-Western tirades does not mean that the threat to our security and well-being has suddenly evaporated." He points out that in Britain, the current threat from terrorism is classed as "severe", indicating the possibility of a severe attack in the near future.
Now Coughlin is off and running. Elaborations on the truth are to be thickly spread; in fact if the powers-that-be want to use this approach they will have to endorse a variety of questionable intel evolutions. Coughlin endorses them all in this article. But they are questionable. To start with the "tapes" that were released of bin Laden's "ramblings" were not his at all, but clumsy imitations by Western intel intent on raising the domestic "fear factor."
By simply assuming their veracity, Coughlin does his readers a disservice. He continues in this vein by taking British authorities at their word that a "threat" purports a severe attack, upcoming. Of course how should the British authorities know, as there are still unanswered questions about British authorities' incompetence or downright complicity regarding previous attacks?
Coughlin then points out that President Obama can count himself lucky that a series of recent plots, "from the underpants bomber at Detroit airport to the devices concealed in printer cartridges," were foiled. Not really. There is every evidence that American intel generally and the FBI in particular were not especially discouraging of these incidents in their formative stages (anymore than British intelligence) and in fact practiced a form of entrapment.
Having led readers down the proverbial garden path with a series of half-truths at most, Coughlin asserts that "to quote the spooks' favorite mantra, the enemy only needs to get lucky once." Of course this is a perfect rationale for an endlessly elaborated police state, but Coughlin doesn't see it that way. He moves on to his central thesis:
With bin Laden gone, the desire to declare "mission accomplished" and withdraw our troops from the fray is perfectly understandable. But to do so would be foolhardy in the extreme. For, rather than seeing the al-Qaeda leader's removal from the scene as the final act in the war on terror, it should be seen as a decisive breakthrough – and one that could provide the West with the ability to press home its advantage on a number of fronts, and achieve a comprehensive and lasting victory.
After ten years and a trillion dollars, Coughlin wishes spend more treasure and spill more blood. It is not his money, nor his blood, but he is eager to put forth what is necessary. "The first priority, of course, must be to eviscerate whatever remains of al-Qaeda's infrastructure, particularly in Pakistan," he writes. He includes "newly established franchises" in Yemen and Somalia. (Really? How does he know?)
Coughlin is not bothered by questions about al-Qaeda's antecedents or the CIA's involvement in setting up whatever actually existed of the organization. Having skipped over these critical issues, he is onto the probably fictitious "mother lode" of material – computers, documents and DVDs – seized during the raid on bin Laden's hideout.
Since there is no definitive proof that the hideout to which he refers was bin Laden's or that bin Laden was even there (except for the word of the US Administration) this mother lode is somewhat dubious. But no doubt a good deal of information shall emerge – whatever the CIA wishes to emerge of course. There is no way of checking on the veracity of any of this.
Coughlin has other points to make. He really wants to use Pakistan's complicity in bin Laden's presence in that country – a complicity he assumes but cannot prove, to justify a full-scale invasion of Pakistan by the West. He wants to remove both the Pashtun/Taliban and al-Qaeda from Pakistan. The former have lived there for 2,000 years and the latter may not exist at all. But Coughlin continues blithely onward. "The origins of the current conflict lie in the Taliban's refusal to surrender bin Laden to the Americans following the September 11 attacks," he writes.
In fact, the Taliban offered bin Laden to the US if the US would provide any proof of bin Laden's complicity in 9/11 – which bin Laden was busy denying. The US declined and thus the Taliban declined as well. This history, too, escapes Coughlin. Having posited ten years' worth of half-truths and non-truths, Coughlin finishes with what he apparently considers an optimistic note, that the "democracy" movements now sweeping the Middle East are directing the youth of those nations toward "a very different set of priorities."
In fact, it has been proven – even admitted – that Western intel (particularly the CIA) is behind many of these movements, having trained the "youth" of numerous countries in various protesting techniques and having provided funding besides.
Coughlin is all for using bin Laden's death to justify yet more war and to expand the hostilities. This is indeed a tack that can be taken by the powers-that-be, but until we see a more definitive focus on these sorts of arguments we shall remain somewhat wary of them. Our hypothesis is that bin Laden's apparently phony death was designed at least in part as a way to extricate the West from Afghanistan. And if this is the case, then our arguments of yesterday regarding the high-water mark of empire may well prove valid.
A worldwide empire run by the Anglo-American banking elites will be of benefit to very few and the detriment in our view of billions already suffering under the yoke of increasingly vehement regulatory democracy. A withdrawal from Afghanistan will leave the empire fighting to preserve its gains rather than expanding aggressively. Given the increasing repressiveness and authoritarianism of the current system, anything that retards the progress of the military-industrial complex is probably desirable.
Conclusion: Coughlin has provided us with a pro-war dominant social theme. But at the moment we remain unconvinced. We shall continue to observe events unfold to see if we can gain a better understanding how the unexpected death of bin Laden may play out. War in fact is only one application of the bin Laden death meme. Others may emerge even more powerfully in the near future, and we shall try to analyze them as they appear.
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Posted by kaydellc on 05/08/11 03:20 PM
Does it matter whether UBL is dead or alive? There will always be those who want control and power over a people,nation, or world. It has been true since the world began. When such person leaves it is like a person sticking his hand in the water and removing it. Will it leave a hole? No! Another idealogue will move in and push the can further down the road. There are many out there that want world order and socialist-communism and this is their goal. We, the people, do not want to believe there are such people. WE are like frogs in kettle of water on a stove, just waiting and hoping but not deciding and then it is too long and we are cooked. But rest assured as history has told us the liberties we gave up will never be again enjoyed by the people unless it is shedding of blood on the altar of freedom.
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Posted by Wayne on 05/07/11 08:04 PM
Of course we will always believe a cabal of lying lawyers.
After all, didn't they take an path to tell the truth when they were elected? However, this is their real theme song
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We always have, and we always will believe.
Only a few will ever escape.
The rest always take the Blue Pill! It's their tranquilizer.
Stupid is forever!
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Posted by Dave Jr on 05/07/11 07:38 PM
If the White House directed the OBL takedown, then why does it have to constantly fine tune the account of what happened? Increasingly the White House is nothing more than the insider MSM scoop. If only they had better intel, they would know what they have actually done, or should have done, or what could have been done, or done what is imporatant for you to believe was done, or what they would have liked to have been done, as long as you understand that what was done was in your best interest. So long as you believe it.
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Posted by Avatar on 05/07/11 12:13 PM
It is absolutely true that among radical extremists there is an almost endless stream of men willing and wanting to take over Bin Laden's perceived role. These men are raised from childhood to believe in the cause. The Military-Industrial complex needed to do something to Keep Fear Alive and give credence to their worth in protecting America. Perhaps Bin Laden could never have been captured alive as the true story of 911 would never be allowed to unfold? We may never know,
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Posted by speedygonzales on 05/07/11 09:38 AM
Knowing how to kill tree roots is the same as knowing how to kill a tree. Tree roots need to breath and if they are suffocated, the tree will die....
"Debt is an efficient tool. It ensures access to other peoples' raw materials and infrastructure on the cheapest possible terms. Dozens of countries must compete for shrinking export markets and can export only a limited range of products because of Northern protectionism and their lack of cash to invest in diversification. Market saturation ensues, reducing exporters' income to a bare minimum while the North enjoys huge savings. The IMF cannot seem to understand that investing in … [a] healthy, well-fed, literate population … is the most intelligent economic choice a country can make.'
- Susan George, A Fate Worse Than Debt
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Posted by speedygonzales on 05/07/11 09:09 AM
Afghanistan has a long and troubled history with the opium poppy, beginning in 1979 during the Soviet invasion. This cash crop is used in manufacturing heroin, as well as narcotic pain relievers such as, morphine, oxycodone, and hydrocodone. What began as a means of financing a resistance to the Soviets, grew into a widespread practice of making easy money.
This continued until July of 2000, when Taliban leader Mohammed Omar declared the cultivation of opium un-Islamic, and banned production. After the ban, Afghanistan's total production dropped 91% from 82,172 hectares in 2000, to only 7,606 hectares in 2001.
According to the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime, after the US invasion in 2001, Afghanistan now accounts for 93% of world's total opium production. Production spiked 96% from 7,606 hectares in 2001, to 193,000 hectares in 2007. Helmand province in the south of Afghanistan, an area roughly about the size of West Virginia, now produces 50% of the world's opium alone. The Taliban's ban on farming the opium poppy before the US invasion was so effective, that Helmand province recorded no opium cultivation in the 2001. The previous year it had been the highest producing province, and currently is again.
This war never ends: Opium war, BAYER patentent heroin,drug bussiness controls big animals: Dope,Inc. Russels,Skull and Bones,Astors etc. More shocking, and more important, the bank was sanctioned for failing to apply the proper anti-laundering strictures to the transfer of $378.4bn
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Most important thing on OBL death is how unimportant is. The put into Manuel Noriega. Did it caused less drugs in Usaia? As they will fight for their part of drug bussiness, they will B marked as terrorists. The same is money. As soon as one will try to get out of central bank controled anglo-dutch bankin cartel it became terrorist. If one killing his own people,takes bribery etc, but cooperates with western corporate stuff C oil,mining,unimportant loans... it satisfy west. Saudi Arabia as example. They invaded Bahrain and ...
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Posted by CJM on 05/07/11 01:57 AM
The army of al qaeda/taliban infidels do not need anything to justify continuation of a war; their centuries of in-fighting has proven this beyond a reasonable doubt.
When a leader is taken out, there are two more to take his place and bin Laden's death is of no consequence for them. It is unfortunate that these people have not progressed enough to develop a society of peace because it would mean an end to their barbaric way of life.
Today, they are heady with their accomplishment of terrorism on a global scale. If ALL the nations who have fallen victim to these infidels would strike back swiftly and surely, these dogs would tuck their tails and slink back to their homeland as being defeated and disgraced.
No one wins against bullying infidels using politically correct nonsense in fighting war--and it is a war when blood of innocents is shed for the entertainment of the infidels.
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Posted by memewatchers.com on 05/06/11 02:59 PM
To think the 'death' of OBL will end the war in Afghanistan is most likely wishful thinking. However what the Power Elite have now that OBL is eliminated is a good excuse to extend and end the war. Most likely it will be used for both. A new offensive and then a rapid exit necessary. Their reasoning to the public?
'We are so close to accomplishing our goals it would be a shame to pull out now. Just one more quick offensive and victory is surely ours. Then we will pull out we promise.'
Although I am still hoping that announcing OBL's death is an excuse to pull out fast and save face. But it sounds just too good to be true. =(
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Posted by William3 on 05/06/11 02:34 PM
We never get just one point of view from the elite and mainstream press. The dialectic keeps the discussion alive.
Hence we have the get-out-of-Afghanistan view and Coughlin's purge-al-Qaeda-first position. Discussion ensues until the "all-wise" government decides what's best.
Meanwhile we are distracted from the economic collapse sitting on our doorstep. Cool... not!
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Posted by SumerianPills1 on 05/06/11 02:01 PM
Hi .
Why is David Wilcock 'a false flag' :/ Surely our true history was part of the reason the uranium depleted beautiful Iraq.
Surely 'other dimensions ' are a big issue;what about Edgar cayce to-O .
They've got their puppet banks & Government & control of the oil pipeline routes & processed poppy ones too,-so ya Victory :I(
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Posted by DarbyJie on 05/06/11 01:58 PM
Thanks, very interesting post! I very much like your neologism-"memeology":)- it's a needed addition, spotlighting as it does a slick, very _potent_, propaganda tool.
Blessings too upon those skeptical commenters:)--that has increasingly been my experience too, that citizens are, finally, losing their gullibility (blind faith in the honesty of the press/Authority)...hooray!
Finally, it's very distressing that even publications of *finest repute*-are these days, willing to sell out; the hallmarks of civilization are disappearing beneath our feet, one by one.
We, the civilized humans, are sorely in need of some sort of "divine intervention." (And I am/was an agnostic...sheesh!)
Regards.
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Posted by rossbcan on 05/06/11 01:11 PM
DB: "Will Bin Laden's Death Justify More War?"
It will certainly be used to rationalize the coming "revenge" false flag attacks as states attempt to create rationalizations for their escalating (because they have decimated productivity) predations and sorry existance.
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Posted by scousekraut on 05/06/11 01:09 PM
It is astonishing that this nut Coughlin is the Telegraph's senior foreign correspondent. He does have the face of a seasoned repoerter though.
He has never recovered from studying at Oxford under zionist Jew Simon Schama who has all kinds of elitist connections and once wrote a book on two of the Rothschilds and a History of Britain series for the BBC.
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The Telegraph had one of the best mainstream reporters going - though he seems to have disappeared. Too bad Coughlin didn't leave instead ...
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Posted by Siegfried on 05/06/11 12:52 PM
The whole thing of Osama is very open ended. On one side they are singing songs of victory, which could point to a kind of an end of the military presence in Afghanistan, even if half baked like they did in Iraq. But also immediately after the big headlines, media were already warning of a possible revenge. At this moment I have curiosity, after all the blatant lies, what will they use this for?
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We are curious too, in a grim sort of way.
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Posted by Reader on 05/06/11 10:00 AM
Memes come and go. It would be most beneficial to be familiar with the 'core principles' of the PE as well. To that end, here is an interesting American and German viewpoint of things as they currently stand.
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Happy Reading and cheers!
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Posted by ohioralph on 05/06/11 09:37 AM
My initial comments after seeing the chants of USA! USA! was that Americans are incredible stupid. Your comments,gmallest, confirm this reaction.
This stupidity is present in both the government elite as being monstrously
incompetent with perpetuation of government via their jobs and power and
those of most Americans who view the world as a place of abundance and that poverty is the result of greedy capitalist exploiters.
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Posted by bionic mosquito on 05/06/11 09:10 AM
"In fact, the Taliban offered bin Laden to the US if the US would provide any proof of bin Laden's complicity in 9/11 - which bin Laden was busy denying. The US declined and thus the Taliban declined as well."
But if they just turned him over anyway, they might have avoided much of the destruction that has come to them....
A real sense of justice and courage in the face of serious and real threat of death, it would seem.
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You mean the Taliban honored their guest's safety, we presume at great risk to their own regime. And we agree. The US should have provided proof Osama's culpability instead of invading ...
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Posted by stephen on 05/06/11 08:40 AM
Nothing was to good for Zbigniew Brzezinski created terrorist leader Osama Bin Laden, the French and the Americans did all that they could to save OBL, he passed away leaving behind a legacy of Anglo-American backed terrorist cells witch has ever since been used to control the masses into submission. The so called war on terrorism is alive and well, so does the groupthink propaganda that goes along with it.
OBL died back in 2001 in an American military hospital. He received the best medical care money could bye and overlooked by the world top French specialist.
peace
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This is more in line with our thinking. More even than an assassination ...
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Posted by Shilo on 05/06/11 08:08 AM
Good luck with unravelling the OBL death meme. I've a feeling it is labyrinthine and contains multiple elite objectives. Dont forget to explain that OBL's evasion of capture these last nine years by advising that he was in Iraq doing a stock take of the late Sadam's weapons of mass destruction'.
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Posted by Jean on 05/06/11 07:34 AM
Interestingly, yesterday David Wilcock, a highly respected and well-informed individual who follows the events leading towards 2012 in all areas-political, economic, financial, scientific, spiritual, and so on-much like David Icke, posted an articlecthat can be found here:
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that says his insider sources tell him that Bin Laden's death was real, not staged.The real reason that oil plummeted yesterday was the fact that the powerful knew that Bin Laden was alive and where he was - and had no intention of killing him. The reason: he was training people to blow up the Iraqi pipelines, which kept oil from flowing. As a result, oil prices could be kept high. This worked beautifully for the Illuminati. David also suggests that perhaps within all the computer info that was found might just be info that will implicate those involved in 9/11, and that perhaps the real truth about the coverup might come out.
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They threw him into the sea; they don't have photos; he had Marfan's Syndrome and was apparently dying a decade ago. We have a lot of difficulty believing he was still alive.
Here is something from the article. If he reveals ANYTHING he can change the fate of the world. UFOs are involved in his prophecy as is a Golden Age ... All the signs of a false flag ...
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Both groups gave me the same approximate time window for when we would see these “major new developments.” Administration sources said “two weeks” and the European sources said “within a month” — all in the last week of March. I was strongly advised not to say anything — and I stayed quiet, knowing that I could ruin the whole process if I leaked any of the details.
The FBI released stunning new UFO documents almost exactly two weeks later. The NSA released nearly twice as many UFO documents a mere ten days after that. All of this happened “within a month” of when I had these conversations — just as I had been told.
Both sources later confirmed these document releases did indeed represent the first stage of what they were talking about — a formal, open, official ‘government’ Disclosure ...
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