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The Elite, the 'Great Game' and World War III ... The control of the US, and of global politics, by the wealthiest families of the planet is exercised in a powerful, profound and clandestine manner. This control began in Europe and has a continuity that can be traced back to the time when the bankers discovered it was more profitable to give loans to governments than to needy individuals. These banking families and their subservient beneficiaries have come to own most major businesses over the two centuries during which they have secretly and increasingly organised themselves as controllers of governments worldwide and as arbiters of war and peace. Unless we understand this we will be unable to understand the real reasons for the two world wars and the impending Third World War, a war that is almost certain to begin as a consequence of the US attempt to seize and control Central Asia. The only way out is for the US to back off – something the people of the US and the world want, but the elite does not. Mujahid Kamran/New Dawn/Global Research
Dominant Social Theme: The great game is afoot and may end in a global war and nuclear winter.
Free-Market Analysis: We are of two minds about this article. It is very well done and represents a substantial strand of thought that we share; what we do not share, however, are its conclusions. The idea – and we have written about this before – is that the Anglo-American power elite is involved in the "great game;" that they wish for world dominance but intend to achieve it by chasing raw materials and strategic, regional advantages in military terms.
We have a different perspective. For us, Anglo-American elites are after much more than this, and more directly. The old men of the City of London seek to rule the world; their interest has little to do with raw materials and much to do with control over unruly tribes and restive citizens.
As for positioning Western military resources in such a way as to intimidate Russia and China; we are more inclined to believe that there is no great need to intimidate either of these countries. Their leaders and elites may already be on board with the idea of one-world governance. It's mainly the tribes in Eurasia that the elites want to dominate. The Pashtuns, for instance, that the British elites have tried to slay at least twice (and are apparently failing again at doing so). Even the Pakistan Punjabis are not entirely under control.
Having said this, the article is remarkable for its resolute statements as to the way the world really works. Kamran is blunt in his descriptions. "The US is a country controlled through the privately owned Federal Reserve, which in turn is controlled by the handful of banking families that established it by deception in the first place."
That's about as precise a definition as you can make. But he gets even more specific. "The elite owns the media, banks, defense and oil industry. In his book Who's Who of the Elite Robert Gaylon Ross Sr. states: 'It is my opinion that they own the US military, NATO, the Secret Service, the CIA, the Supreme Court, and many of the lower courts. They appear to control, either directly or indirectly, most of the state, county, and local law enforcement agencies.'"
This is our perspective too, arrived at over years and decades – and with increasing astonishment. There's more, though: "The elite is intent on conquering the world through the use of the abilities of the people of the United States. It was as far back as 1774 that Amschel Mayer Rothschild stated at a gathering of the twelve richest men of Prussia in Frankfurt: 'Wars should be directed so that the nations on both sides should be further in our debt.' He further enunciated at the same meeting: 'Panics and financial depressions would ultimately result in World Government, a new order of one world government.'"
Exactly right. It's happening even now. Because these sociopolitical trends are so large and work relatively slowly, it is easy to lose track of them and to attribute them to coincidence and to bad luck. But, in fact, the world's financial system is not an evolutionary one at this point. A few control the many.
Kamran is right about think tanks as well. He writes, "The elite owns numerous 'think tanks' that work for expanding, consolidating and perpetuating its hold on the globe. The Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA), the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, and many other similar organisations are all funded by the elite and work for it. These think tanks publish journals, such as Foreign Affairs, in which these imperialist and anti-mankind ideas are edified as publications, and then, if need be, expanded in the form of books that are given wide publicity."
The article points out that 80% of US electronic and print media is owned by only six large corporations, a consolidation that has occurred only in the past 20 years or so. "It is almost impossible for anyone who is acquainted with what is going on at the global level to watch, even for a few minutes, the distortions, lies and fabrications, incessantly pouring out of this media, a propaganda and brainwashing organ of the elite."
Karman gets it right about the ongoing genocides as well. "Once your picture is clear it is also easy to notice the criminal silence of the media on crimes being perpetrated against humanity at the behest of the elite. How many people know that the cancer rates in Fallujah, Iraq are higher than those in Hiroshima and Nagasaki because of the use of depleted uranium, and maybe other secret nuclear devices, by US forces? Fallujah was punished for its heroic resistance against the American forces."
He mentions something we've been meaning to introduce at DB, which is the immense contribution of Sigmund Freud's nephew Edward Bernays to elite plans. Bernays developed the technique of "engineering consent" and "pioneered the use of psychology and other social sciences to shape and form public opinion so that the public thought such manufactured opinions were their own."
The platform for Bernays was the Tavistock Institute, which today has a US$6 billion dollar endowment and "400 subsidiary organisations are under its control along with 3,000 think tanks, mostly in the USA. The Stanford Research Institute, the Hoover Institute, the Aspen Institute of Colorado, and many others, devoted to manipulation of US as well as global public opinion, are Tavistock offshoots. This helps explain why the US public, by and large, is so mesmerised as to be unable to see things clearly and to react."
Well done. Where we think the article went off the rails, as we mentioned earlier, has to do with the "great game" in Eurasia. He writes: "In his infinitely arrogant book The Grand Chessboard, published in 1997, Zbigniew Brzezinski spelled out the philosophy behind the current US military eruption. 'Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland: Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island: who commands the World-Island commands the world.'"
Brzezinski argues that "For America the chief geopolitical prize is Eurasia... About 75 percent of the world's people live in Eurasia... Eurasia accounts for about 60 percent of the world's GNP and about three fourths of the world's known energy resources." And Kamran points out that, "It is not just the geostrategic location of this region – it is also its wealth, 'both in its enterprises and beneath its soil,' that holds such attraction for the elite whose greed for money, and lust for power, remain insatiable, as if there was a sickness afflicting it."
This is our area of disagreement. We have never believed the world is running out of oil, or that, if it were, other energy would not be available. Generally, we tend to think that human beings are flexibly innovative and the are plenty of materials that can be used as the building blocks of civilization. The scarcity meme trotted out virtually everywhere is just that in our view – likely a fear based promotion.
Kamran has a different perspective. He points out that Brzezinski "has drawn two very interesting maps – one of these has the caption The Global Zone of Percolating Violence (page 53) and the other (page 124) is captioned The Eurasian Balkans. The first of these encircles a region which includes the following countries: Sudan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Iran, all Central Asian states, Afghanistan, Pakistan and parts of Russia as well as India. The second one has two circles, an inner circle and a wider circle – the outer circle encloses the same countries as in the first map but the inner circle covers Iran, Afghanistan, eastern Turkey and the former Soviet Republics in Central Asia. ...
"This huge region, torn by volatile hatreds and surrounded by competing powerful neighbours, is likely to be a major battlefield ... A possible challenge to American primacy from Islamic fundamentalism could be part of the problem of this unstable region."
For Kamran, "The US might face a serious challenge from a coalition of China, Russia and Iran and must do whatever it can to prevent such a coalition from forming.
To his credit, Kamran describes the current phony war on terror as "a well planned and well thought out strategy, a lie and a deception, to provide cover for a military presence in the Central Eurasian region and elsewhere." Further, he believes it is being used to "keep the US public in a state of fear, to keep Russia in a state of insecurity about further breakup and to justify presence of US troops in and around Central Asia."
At this point he introduces another gentleman about whom we have many doubts: Michael Ruppert of Peak Oil fame. Ruppert, he explains, "points out that much of the violence in the Central Asian region as well as in Pakistan, which has been encircled in two maps in Brzezinski's book, was 'initiated by the US proxies.' ... Given that these maps were published a full four years before the first plane hit the World Trade Centre, they would fall in a category of evidence I learned about at LAPD [Los Angeles Police Department]. We called them 'clues'."
They are not clues. This is in our humble opinion a deception. There is no such thing as Peak Oil and there is no such thing in this modern day and age as the Great Game. The idea that the Anglo-American elites are engaged in some all out rivalry with Russia and China is simply untrue in our view.
As we wrote recently, Western elites might have in mind a REGIONAL war (even a nuclear war) to be waged between Israel and the Arabs. Presumably, this would expand Israel's sway – and increase the West's power over Islam and Arabia – and has something to do with expanding global government as well. But the idea that the elites of Russia, China and the West hate and fear each other so much that they will engage in worldwide nuclear war (to what purpose?) is simply incorrect in our view.
There is only one Great Game being played we submit. It is aimed at the stiff-necked tribes of Eurasia and of the Middle East and upper Africa a well. These are areas that the Anglosphere elites don't effectively control yet. And that is what this great game is all about. Not oil. Not minerals. Not strategic military objectives. It seeks to Westernize (as much as necessary) the last parts of earth that have escaped dominion.
The good news is that this program is increasingly in chaos. The City of London – arrogant and contemptuous – simply doesn't wish to acknowledge what is increasingly evident to others: That the Internet has changed the rules of engagement. And that they may be losing, not winning.
We track the memes of the elite. But these dominant social themes are not working out in Afghanistan or in Europe. The Pashtun/Taliban are succeeding in fending off the greatest army ever assembled in the modern era and in Europe the euro continues to crumble. In fact, the entire insidious strategy of world domination that Western elites have been pursuing over the past 300 or so years has been exposed on the Internet – and thus has become far more difficult to implement.
Millions, even tens of millions understand it – and as the Internet is process not an episode, even more will understand tomorrow. It is impossible to create world government in secret when so many are tracking and tracing your every move.
We want to state our admiration for Kamran and his article (apparently he's got a book on the subject as well), because it so thoroughly presents what is going on. At the same time we want to reaffirm that in our humble view Western elites do NOT seek world war with China and Russia, nor will they likely stumble into one.
The top men in the world all seek the same thing at this point: world government and population culling as a byproduct. Once this is understood, what is likely REALLY going on in the world snaps more or less into focus. Add in the elites helplessness as the Internet Reformation rages about them and you can come to some most interesting conclusions.
Conclusion: Far from facing a global nuclear war and nuclear winter, it is perfectly possible the 21st century will present humankind with a modern Renaissance and a reduction of the modern conspiracy. The elites may well find it necessary to take a step back as their fear-based promotions crumble and their use of violence ceases to be entirely effective. Perhaps this is an optimistic perspective, but is it beyond the realm of possibility?
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Posted by Wayne on 06/09/11 05:43 PM
I don't "go after" any of the shrinkng number of growing globalcorps, I'm going after people's perception of the global corporations' function in society. Is that distinction too subtle for the revolutionaries here?
I thought for a while that DB would be anxious to shut down the "fronts" behind which the PE hide; how naive I must look.
The DB and the malcontents that makes up its forum have to be the most unruly, independent, and thoughtful group on the internet.
You, on the other hand, are merely obstreperous.
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Posted by William Falberg on 06/09/11 01:47 PM
If you're worried about corperations there are hundreds of massive ones you should go after.
I don't "go after" any of the shrinkng number of growing globalcorps, I'm going after people's perception of the global corporations' function in society. Is that distinction too subtle for the revolutionaries here?
I thought for a while that DB would be anxious to shut down the "fronts" behind which the PE hide; how naive I must look.
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"I don't "go after" any of the shrinkng number of growing globalcorps, I'm going after people's perception of the global corporations' function in society. Is that distinction too subtle for the revolutionaries here?"
You think this gibberish makes sense?
"I thought for a while that DB would be anxious to shut down the "fronts" behind which the PE hide; how naive I must look."
Ha, you have no idea how you look! Or perhaps you do ...
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Posted by Summer on 06/09/11 08:43 AM
"Far from facing a global nuclear war and nuclear winter, it is perfectly possible the 21st century will present humankind with a modern Renaissance and a reduction of the modern conspiracy."
I totally agree with this conclusion. The world had been in this state of possible nuclear confrontation before between the USSR and the West, and both had managed to tone down the conflict before things could really get worse.. . and then got along well together. The use of the atomic bomb on Japan was then reasonable in order to end the war because it was only the US that had one then, but not anymore true today. In a nuclear war, even a regional one, humanity loses.
@DB:
"The elites may well find it necessary to take a step back as their fear-based promotions crumble and their use of violence ceases to be entirely effective. Perhaps this is an optimistic perspective, but is it beyond the realm of possibility?"
If the PE pushes the Middle East into a regional nuclear war, it would only do so for the survival of Israel. As long as Israel is not threatened into extinction I see no nuclear war in the Middle East.
The real danger is when Israel alone or jointly with America-Britain-France (a Judeo-Christian axis) decides to attack Iran . . . would the Islamic world just stand and watch? This I doubt. There will be an upheaval and a communal slaughter anywhere in the world where there are Muslim and Christian communities - which would render atomic bombs useless. THIS IS THE THIRD WORLD WAR - - - the end of the world as we know it! This is the religious war that the Bible has been predicting.
Dr. I. S. Alcordo, Ph.D.
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Totally agree, this is what I have alluded to many times.
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Posted by Summer on 06/09/11 08:39 AM
I understand and empathise with your view (and DB's) optimism for change, and should I have included a caveat in what I said. That caveat however, nowadays would seem so absurd that few would even consider it (hence why I did not mention it) ... That is that if there were a moral reformation then the Elites would indeed be powerless. As there would be too few traitors and corrupt people to implement their plans and people would have backbone and reject all immoral wars (aggresive) and the tool of the empire - interest.
The reason I did not mention this is because Elite sponsored philosophers and clergy have in effect degraded the value of morals, and God himself (only worth noting I suppose if one is a 'believer').
Kitty: '...when acting in large numbers in a manner to promote maximization of the lifetime happiness of each of them all at the same time are'
IMHO, this (if I have understood you correctly) is evidence of the blurring of what true happiness is in my view. The Christians were persecuted and suffered for their faith and after this patience their future generations have reaped reward in material gains, but they revel in their luxury and superiority, and turn away from what made them truly great.
True happiness is true goodness. Having all that you want can be fulfilling (or selfish), however on its own does not give lasting contentment. A small example - once you have a beautiful thing after a while the initial pleasure it gave you reduces and that pleasure was a feeling of gratification anyway.
However when you open a door for someone or give money to charity there is a feeling of 'goodness' felt in our souls that is unique and inculcated through a spirit of selflessly doing good. That is real pleasure and does not diminish - true happiness.
Now coming to our present situation for those who don't 'believe' there is no hope - as I have said there is no actual means for changing the course of destiny for the specific problem at hand.
Revolution? Mass debt default? Troops saying no more fighting? No more government? Revolution? Mass debt default? Troops saying no more fighting? No more government? Non-co-operation? None of these look like they will happen as they require a principled stand and most do not have strong enough principles (usually only works through mass belief in the same thing anyway).
If you can see a plausible united effort that would work, taking into account human psyche rather than a notion of one (not requiring a united principled stand or one that could spurn one) please tell me, I genuinly hope for it.
However, it is possible to individually (and thus communally - we are all members of the community) seek peace and contentment through self-sacrifice. People like this will have hope whatever goes on around them.
However for those who 'believe' or are agnostics there is a glimmer of hope - the promise in all major religions that if people turn to God (goodness/morality), they will be defended. Although seems unlikely people will change.
Some would say, these are mere 'tales of the ancients', there is more advanced thought now, they would arrogantly scoff at religion whilst forgetting the inhalation of people before them who did so. It's their choice. But if we learn anything from history it is this - that humility/openmindedness and learning from examples is the key to finding the truth.
Therefore, in my view, unless there is a moral revolution we will unfortunately witness terrible things, and sadly it is partly our fault for letting our principles get withered away by those who seek to have more docile slaves.
INDIVIDUAL CONTENTMENT
However, it is possible to individually (and thus communally - we are all members of the community) seek peace and contentment through self-sacrifice. People like this will have INDIVIDUAL hope whatever goes on around them.
COLLECTIVE HOPE FOR MANKIND
However for those who 'believe' or are agnostics there is a glimmer of hope - the promise in all major religions that if people turn to God (goodness/morality), they will be defended. Although seems unlikely people will change IN THIS COLLECTIVE FASHION.
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Posted by rossbcan on 06/09/11 07:16 AM
"Far from facing a global nuclear war and nuclear winter, it is perfectly possible the 21st century will present humankind with a modern Renaissance and a reduction of the modern conspiracy."
I totally agree with this conclusion. The world had been in this state of possible nuclear confrontation before between the USSR and the West, and both had managed to tone down the conflict before things could really get worse.. . and then got along well together. The use of the atomic bomb on Japan was then reasonable in order to end the war because it was only the US that had one then, but not anymore true today. In a nuclear war, even a regional one, humanity loses.
@DB:
"The elites may well find it necessary to take a step back as their fear-based promotions crumble and their use of violence ceases to be entirely effective. Perhaps this is an optimistic perspective, but is it beyond the realm of possibility?"
If the PE pushes the Middle East into a regional nuclear war, it would only do so for the survival of Israel. As long as Israel is not threatened into extinction I see no nuclear war in the Middle East.
The real danger is when Israel alone or jointly with America-Britain-France (a Judeo-Christian axis) decides to attack Iran . . . would the Islamic world just stand and watch? This I doubt. There will be an upheaval and a communal slaughter anywhere in the world where there are Muslim and Christian communities - which would render atomic bombs useless. THIS IS THE THIRD WORLD WAR - - - the end of the world as we know it! This is the religious war that the Bible has been predicting.
Dr. I. S. Alcordo, Ph.D.
Click to view link
That is because of MAD (Mutully Assured Destruction). It was not that sane choosers managed to tone things down, it was the FACT that they KNEW that not respecting balance of power (right lo life of each other), meant their OWN demise.
MAD is/was an undeniable example of natural justice in operation:
Justice Defined: We are all free to profit or suffer and learn (adapt to excellence) by facing the consequences of our OWN choices. Injustice is to be forced to suffer the consequences of choices of unaccountable (irresponsible) others.
Injustice is a suvival hit (action) causing the consequence of defense and conflict in civilization. Thus, it is MAD to prey on others and not respect their right to exist which requires freedom.
Which is why we once had the "rule of law" before it was rationalized away by predators on the bench:
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... which we ALL must demand as minimal terms of association with all we deal with. Those who insist otherwise must be fought.
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Posted by Summer on 06/09/11 07:16 AM
If you're worried about corperations there are hundreds of massive ones you should go after.
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Posted by Summer on 06/09/11 07:06 AM
While I think DB's analysis of various situations are likely largely correct, I do not agree with anyone who concludes that humans when acting in large numbers in a manner to promote maximization of the lifetime happiness of each of them all at the same time are "too weak to effect change" in the current society, which is headed (?being driven?) towards "complete international servitude via World government".
I have pointed out here (and many places elsewhere online) that laws/regulations/mandates/directives are nothing but words - written or spoken - without those willing to initiate physical force. These are the enforcers and they are key! No politician, executive (President included), judge, central banker, bureaucrat or moneyed friend gets out into the fields, roads, towns, cities, etc. to enforce passed legislation or the multitude of agency rules. This is the of the enforcers - domestic variety within the borders of a government and military beyond, at least in the US...so far.
For those enforcers who will not be persuaded by way of reasoned logic to get truly productive jobs, I recommend withdrawing all voluntary association - no sales, service or camaraderie - by those who find their "work" abhorrent and/or long range counterproductive to a voluntary society. Shunning with a long history of use as a method of social persuasion has not been given its due in mainstream media. However Gene Sharp includes it in his 198 Methods of NonViolent Action - part of Ostracism of Persons under THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION - Click to view link
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As the numbers of government enforcers takes a noticeable decline (likely publication via non-MSM), it will become more clear that individuals acting in their own long range, widely viewed self-interest for the purpose of maximizing their individual lifetime happiness *can* effect social change. It is not necessary or even desirable that violent rebellion take place since such death and destruction would definitely not promote this purpose, which is the goal of each individual, whether or not s/he recognizes it.
I understand and empathise with your view (and DB's) optimism for change, and should I have included a caveat in what I said. That caveat however, nowadays would seem so absurd that few would even consider it (hence why I did not mention it) ... That is that if there were a moral reformation then the Elites would indeed be powerless. As there would be too few traitors and corrupt people to implement their plans and people would have backbone and reject all immoral wars (aggresive) and the tool of the empire - interest.
The reason I did not mention this is because Elite sponsored philosophers and clergy have in effect degraded the value of morals, and God himself (only worth noting I suppose if one is a 'believer').
Kitty: '...when acting in large numbers in a manner to promote maximization of the lifetime happiness of each of them all at the same time are'
IMHO, this (if I have understood you correctly) is evidence of the blurring of what true happiness is in my view. The Christians were persecuted and suffered for their faith and after this patience their future generations have reaped reward in material gains, but they revel in their luxury and superiority, and turn away from what made them truly great.
True happiness is true goodness. Having all that you want can be fulfilling (or selfish), however on its own does not give lasting contentment. A small example - once you have a beautiful thing after a while the initial pleasure it gave you reduces and that pleasure was a feeling of gratification anyway.
However when you open a door for someone or give money to charity there is a feeling of 'goodness' felt in our souls that is unique and inculcated through a spirit of selflessly doing good. That is real pleasure and does not diminish - true happiness.
Now coming to our present situation for those who don't 'believe' there is no hope - as I have said there is no actual means for changing the course of destiny for the specific problem at hand.
Revolution? Mass debt default? Troops saying no more fighting? No more government? Revolution? Mass debt default? Troops saying no more fighting? No more government? Non-co-operation? None of these look like they will happen as they require a principled stand and most do not have strong enough principles (usually only works through mass belief in the same thing anyway).
If you can see a plausible united effort that would work, taking into account human psyche rather than a notion of one (not requiring a united principled stand or one that could spurn one) please tell me, I genuinly hope for it.
However, it is possible to individually (and thus communally - we are all members of the community) seek peace and contentment through self-sacrifice. People like this will have hope whatever goes on around them.
However for those who 'believe' or are agnostics there is a glimmer of hope - the promise in all major religions that if people turn to God (goodness/morality), they will be defended. Although seems unlikely people will change.
Some would say, these are mere 'tales of the ancients', there is more advanced thought now, they would arrogantly scoff at religion whilst forgetting the inhalation of people before them who did so. It's their choice. But if we learn anything from history it is this - that humility/openmindedness and learning from examples is the key to finding the truth.
Therefore, in my view, unless there is a moral revolution we will unfortunately witness terrible things, and sadly it is partly our fault for letting our principles get withered away by those who seek to have more docile slaves.
Posted by isalcordo on 06/09/11 07:01 AM
If ever there will be a modern Renaissance in the future, it can only happen under the auspices of the PE families since almost all of our intellectuals in the academe, think tanks, and MSM are beneficiaries of these PE, one way or another.
And, I believe, that the only way for the PE families to change course towards this end is if and when the Queen of England (representing the Protestants) jointly with the Pope (representing the Catholics) call on/to the PE families to plot a NEW direction for the world and humanity.
No matter how much we claim to be free men or demand for personal freedom, there is not such a man or state of being, except those living in caves . . . but even these are not beyond the reach of governmental laws.
We can only continue to enjoy our level of freedom today if our RELIGION continue to be FOUNDED on human freedom. The truth is the fate of the world and of humanity tomorrow, as it has been today and had been in the past, depends upon the ruling PE's concept of GOD!
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Posted by William Falberg on 06/09/11 05:25 AM
Posted by isalcordo on 06/09/11 03:18 AM
If ever there will be a modern Renaissance in the future, it can only happen under the auspices of the PE families since almost all of our intellectuals in the academe, think tanks, and MSM are in the payroll of these PE, one way or another.
And, I believe, that the only way for the PE families to change course towards this end is if and when the Queen of England (representing the Protestants) jointly with the Pope (representing the Catholics) call on/to the PE families to plot a NEW direction for the world and humanity.
No matter how much we claim to be free men or demand for personal freedom, there is not such a man or state of being, except those living in caves . . . but even these are not beyond the reach of governmental laws.
We can only continue to enjoy our level of freedom today if our RELIGION continue to be FOUNDED on human freedom. The truth is the fate of the world and of humanity tomorrow, as it has been today and had been in the past, depends upon the ruling PE's concept of GOD!
Posted by isalcordo on 06/09/11 02:30 AM
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Posted by amanfromMars on 06/09/11 01:59 AM
I wouldn't be at all sure that you are right when you say "You can't change human nature" for human nature is just a case of bad/mad/sad/rad/CAD programming and with IT and media control can one paint any picture with Intelligence to Create a Reality for Presentation, and Program a People for its Blind Acceptance.
The Simply Complex Mind easily accepts images as proof of what is imaginatively created for a virtual fiction as an actual fact and a reality which exists.
Thus are New Realities extremely easily created by IntelAIgents with IT and Media Control Leverage/Virtual XSSXXXXPertise, which of course explains the Old Monied and Military Status Quo Power Elite Systems' present current running concerns with regard to CyberSpace, where Sensitive Information Supply delivering Control Intelligence which may be classified Quantum Magical and/or Top Secret Cosmic flows freely into any network researching and searching for IT and Media Control Fields in Live Operational Virtual Environments aka Humanised Realities in, and for the Self-Actualising Virtualised AIMachine World of the SMARTer Programming Robot with Powerful Networking Fleshbots as Catalyst Conduits for Communication of Conversion Capability in AIMorph Facilities and Reality Distortion Areas.
It is fully realised that the latter part of the preceding paragraph may be presently well beyond the belief threshold of many, if not even most of the current beings and evolving intelligent life forms, for it to be readily accepted as the reality existing elsewhere for all, but its presence is here advised nevertheless, so that extremely rapid future progress to Presentations of Projects in IT Virtual Fields, come as no great and ignorant shock to humanity with their chaotic lossy power and intelligence control services.
"the great game is to have absolute control over the creation of money. That is as simple as it gets. Once that is achieved you own everything else; government, resources, the people.
'The intellectual faculties however are not of themselves sufficient to produce external action; they require the aid of physical force, the direction and combination of which are wholly at the disposal of money, that mighty spring by which the total force of human energies is set in motion.'
Augustus Boeckh (Translated) The Public Economy of Athens, p. 7, Book I, London, 1828. " ...... Posted by Click to view link on 06/08/11 04:40 PM
Click to view link, Hi,
An alternative to the above which does not require one to have absolute control over the creation of money, is to simply have the full support of those who would have such an ability and to use their product to create the Future Program, which rather nicely would further consolidate their predominant and pre-eminent absolute control positions, making it a a quite magnificent Win Win situation. After all, it is not as if monies spent are going anywhere strange, other than inevitably evenetually straight back into their system, after having done ITs Magic which might even be seen as their bidding, is it?
And Daily Bell Ringers beware of these rogue renegade elements at play in the wild, for anything countercultural and controversial/irregular and unconventional, can have them paying one a visit in the guise of a supporting wily friend ...... Click to view link ..... the world has ears and loose lips sink ships and steal dreams and IP.:-)
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Posted by William Falberg on 06/09/11 12:20 AM
And that's just it. It's OK for corporations to lie, and lie BIG! because it's justified as "best serving the stockholders interest" and no one's responsible. They can call it a "staff report" ; author unknown. Oh, those corporations are slippery, alright.
Or they can hire a professional writer to lie for them. Prostitution covers more than sex trade in corporate America. But it's probably cheaper in the developing world. Rambling again.
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OK, no problem. But we don't believe in Peak OIl for very good reasons in our view. When you continually imply that we are ignorant or haven't done any research on the subject, you are making a statement to our viewers and feedbackers as well. We have a responsibility to them to do our due diligence before making statements. We try to do this. We take our efforts seriously. So if you wish to rebut us, try to do so on a factually basis rather than by impugning our efforts or knowledge base. Thank you.
Posted by isalcordo on 06/08/11 11:29 PM
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What? They should be up ...
Posted by isalcordo on 06/08/11 11:24 PM
"Far from facing a global nuclear war and nuclear winter, it is perfectly possible the 21st century will present humankind with a modern Renaissance and a reduction of the modern conspiracy."
I totally agree with this conclusion. The world had been in this state of possible nuclear confrontation before between the USSR and the West, and both had managed to tone down the conflict before things could really get worse.. . and then got along well together. The use of the atomic bomb on Japan was then reasonable in order to end the war because it was only the US that had one then, but not anymore true today. In a nuclear war, even a regional one, humanity loses.
@DB:
"The elites may well find it necessary to take a step back as their fear-based promotions crumble and their use of violence ceases to be entirely effective. Perhaps this is an optimistic perspective, but is it beyond the realm of possibility?"
If the PE pushes the Middle East into a regional nuclear war, it would only do so for the survival of Israel. As long as Israel is not threatened into extinction I see no nuclear war in the Middle East.
The real danger is when Israel alone or jointly with America-Britain-France (a Judeo-Christian axis) decides to attack Iran . . . would the Islamic world just stand and watch? This I doubt. There will be an upheaval and a communal slaughter anywhere in the world where there are Muslim and Christian communities - which would render atomic bombs useless. THIS IS THE THIRD WORLD WAR - - - the end of the world as we know it! This is the religious war that the Bible has been predicting.
Dr. I. S. Alcordo, Ph.D.
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Yes, we likely agree ...
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Posted by KittyAntonikWakfer on 06/08/11 10:15 PM
While I think DB's analysis of various situations are likely largely correct, I do not agree with anyone who concludes that humans when acting in large numbers in a manner to promote maximization of the lifetime happiness of each of them all at the same time are "too weak to effect change" in the current society, which is headed (?being driven?) towards "complete international servitude via World government".
I have pointed out here (and many places elsewhere online) that laws/regulations/mandates/directives are nothing but words - written or spoken - without those willing to initiate physical force. These are the enforcers and they are key! No politician, executive (President included), judge, central banker, bureaucrat or moneyed friend gets out into the fields, roads, towns, cities, etc. to enforce passed legislation or the multitude of agency rules. This is the of the enforcers - domestic variety within the borders of a government and military beyond, at least in the US...so far.
For those enforcers who will not be persuaded by way of reasoned logic to get truly productive jobs, I recommend withdrawing all voluntary association - no sales, service or camaraderie - by those who find their "work" abhorrent and/or long range counterproductive to a voluntary society. Shunning with a long history of use as a method of social persuasion has not been given its due in mainstream media. However Gene Sharp includes it in his 198 Methods of NonViolent Action - part of Ostracism of Persons under THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION - Click to view link
Also: Click to view link
As the numbers of government enforcers takes a noticeable decline (likely publication via non-MSM), it will become more clear that individuals acting in their own long range, widely viewed self-interest for the purpose of maximizing their individual lifetime happiness *can* effect social change. It is not necessary or even desirable that violent rebellion take place since such death and destruction would definitely not promote this purpose, which is the goal of each individual, whether or not s/he recognizes it.
This is the job of the enforcers - domestic variety within the borders of a government and military beyond, at least in the US...so far.
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Posted by KittyAntonikWakfer on 06/08/11 10:12 PM
DB: 'This is our significant area of disagreement. We have never agreed on the scarcity of oil in the world... The scarcity meme trotted out virtually everywhere is just that - a fear based promotion.'
There's plenty of oil, (even in Pakistan, I've heard!) and it's a brilliant essential resource-based way to manipulate economies via fluctuating prices. IMHO there's no scarcity (of oil and some other natural resources), but mopping up as much of the world's wealth on the way to world government is possible, so why wouldn't they?
DB:'But the idea that the elites of Russia, China and the West hate and fear each other so much that they will engage in worldwide nuclear war (to what purpose?) is simply incorrect in our view.'
True, however...
'The idea that the Anglo-American elites are engaged in some all out rivalry with Russia and China is simply untrue in our view.'
Yes they are under Elite control but like a slave, he always looks for small ways to protect himself - 'they' are not united, nations on the receiving end know the plan and that they are in a trap - they may be traitors but they love power (that's why they are traitors!) so they would want to limit loss of control/power, thus there must be some resistance in my view.
DB: 'There is only one Great Game being played we submit. It is aimed at the stiff-necked tribes of Eurasia and of the Middle East and upper Africa a well. These are areas that the Anglosphere elites don't effectively control yet. And that is what this great game is all about. Not oil. Not minerals. Not strategic military objectives. It seeks to Westernize (as much as necessary) the last parts of earth that have escaped dominion.'
True, World Government is the main objective but resources are useful for TOTAL control and power, haven't we seen evidence of their insatiable greed?
DB:'The top men in the world all seek the same thing at this point: world government and population culling as a byproduct.'
True, but coerced too. And as DB mentioned, any independence, be it tribal or religious (obviously a more substantial problem), is under attack.
The 'Muslim' world generally is more awake than the West, in my view. Many know the Zionist&Western&other traitors control collaboration over the world. Indeed the Quran mentions specifically the second era of 'Christian' nations' dominion and its prophesised fall due to atheism, arrogance and worldly pursuits.
Click to view link (commentary of the chapter is important)
The end of Gog (Russian power?) fizzled out and Magog (Western power?) yet to see - looks like it will end with 'a bang' unfortunately. However, the Elites (the collaboration of what makes up the Anti-Christ/Dajjal?), seem to be extremely similar to the description in Ahadith of Dajjal. In fact so clear that I think some Muslims have realised to whom it eludes - PE = threat to PE.
Add principles of faith generally (Islam) to cement resistance and you get trouble for the Elites. They have dealt with Christianity for the most part. Even if in some cases (Muslims) not physically but mentally resisting - they will not give up their life-styles for anyone; although some do get influenced by Brave New World type contrived trends. Nonetheless, Muslims generally - still more difficult to control than other masses in my view. Therefore PE are staunch enemies of true Islam (obviously not extremism).
DB: 'Add in the elites helplessness as the Internet Reformation rages about them and you can come to some most interesting conclusions.'
Unfortunately, I think all that the internet can do is offer awareness. We are awake, what can we possibly do to change anything? Revolution? Yeah that works nowadays! Not!
We are all debt slaves, nations and individuals, directly or indirectly. Their weapon - interest - they have us against the wall, whether we 'know' about it or not. I cannot envisage being free from their clutches unless they are destroyed.
We are too weak to effect change, there is only One power that could steer us out of the plan for complete international servitude via World government; could be through natural disasters, nuclear mishap or rebellion of a nuclear power - using its weapons, causing mass destruction on conflicting sides. Scary.
While I think DB's analysis of various situations are likely largely correct, I do not agree with anyone who concludes that humans when acting in large numbers in a manner to promote maximization of the lifetime happiness of each of them all at the same time are "too weak to effect change" in the current society, which is headed (?being driven?) towards "complete international servitude via World government".
I have pointed out here (and many places elsewhere online) that laws/regulations/mandates/directives are nothing but words - written or spoken - without those willing to initiate physical force. These are the enforcers and they are key! No politician, executive (President included), judge, central banker, bureaucrat or moneyed friend gets out into the fields, roads, towns, cities, etc. to enforce passed legislation or the multitude of agency rules. This is the of the enforcers - domestic variety within the borders of a government and military beyond, at least in the US...so far.
For those enforcers who will not be persuaded by way of reasoned logic to get truly productive jobs, I recommend withdrawing all voluntary association - no sales, service or camaraderie - by those who find their "work" abhorrent and/or long range counterproductive to a voluntary society. Shunning with a long history of use as a method of social persuasion has not been given its due in mainstream media. However Gene Sharp includes it in his 198 Methods of NonViolent Action - part of Ostracism of Persons under THE METHODS OF SOCIAL NONCOOPERATION - Click to view link
Also: Click to view link
As the numbers of government enforcers takes a noticeable decline (likely publication via non-MSM), it will become more clear that individuals acting in their own long range, widely viewed self-interest for the purpose of maximizing their individual lifetime happiness *can* effect social change. It is not necessary or even desirable that violent rebellion take place since such death and destruction would definitely not promote this purpose, which is the goal of each individual, whether or not s/he recognizes it.
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Posted by Wayne on 06/08/11 08:25 PM
"Globally, large media conglomerates include, National Amusements, Viacom, CBS Corporation, Time Warner, News Corp, Bertelsmann AG, Sony, General Electric, Vivendi SA, The Walt Disney Company, Hearst Corporation, Organizações Globo and Lagardère Group"
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"You may not realize it, but if you watch any TV news broadcast on any station anywhere in the world, there is a better than even chance you will view pictures from APTN. BBC, Fox, Sky, CNN and every major broadcaster subscribes to and uses APTN pictures ... [a] US owned and UK based company."
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"During World War II, Bertelsmann was the biggest single producer of Nazi propaganda. Owner Heinrich Mohn and his son Reinhard Mohn were both members of the SS."
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"the Bertelsmann Corporation happens to be the president-elect's principal source of income. It was Bertelsmann, namely, that agreed to pay Obama a reported $1.9 million in advances for a three-book deal" [2008]
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Amazing what targets Eisenhower protected. Such as the facilites of I.G. Farben.
And yes, where ever there is a TV on in the world, the feed is probably coming from the controlled MSM.
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