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The Afghan War: Just the Facts
Afghanistan mosque suicide bomb attack kills at least 41 ... A suicide bomber targeted worshippers who had gathered at a mosque in north Afghanistan for prayers to mark Eid al-Adha, killing at least 41 people. More than 50 people were wounded in the attack, which happened as people were leaving the Eid Gah mosque in Maymana, capital of Faryab province. Senior provincial government and police officials attended the prayers, but appeared to escape serious injury. The victims were mainly police officers and civilians. This attack in Maymana, the provincial capital of Faryab, exposes a number of serious concerns about the security situation there. There is a widespread perception that Faryab is a very peaceful province, but recent developments are telling. There have been a number of assassinations of tribal elders recently in Maymana. Nato forces have also conducted frequent night raids targeting the Taliban and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan militant group (IMU). – BBC
Dominant Social Theme: The war is being won.
Free-Market Analysis: The deaths in Afghanistan, after more than a decade of war, keep climbing. Our paradigm proves itself out daily.
The West is not in Afghanistan to help its women. The West is not in Afghanistan because of its mineral wealth. The West is not in Afghanistan to create peaceful democracy.
The West is there to eradicate one of the last pockets of resistance to globalism. The Pashtuns and the Punjabis are ancient, independent tribes. This war is between the bankers and the tribes.
The stakes are high. And the West, it seems, has already lost. It is impossible to pacify 250 million people who want nothing to do with your culture, who are willing to die and who can fight from mountain caves.
We follow the war because we know you don't want to. NATO has introduced guns that shoot around corners. It sends out helicopters and soldiers in "armor." US Marines regularly conduct night raids now, rousting and killing innocents.
The Taliban is drawn from Pashtuns and trained by Punjabis. The Pashtuns and Punjabis hate each other. But they dislike invaders even more. Both cultures are true to their roots. The Punjabis are sly and non-confrontational. The Pashtuns are overt warriors. Both tribes have been there for about 2,000 years or more, apparently. Neither tribe is going anywhere.
There about 40 million Pashtuns and 190 million Punjabis. They live in Afghanistan and Pakistan, in mountainous country that provides plenty of cover. These are big countries and it is impossible to track everyone down, even if you wanted to invade mountain ranges, which is an impossibility.
These are stiff-necked tribes. They have been in one place for a long time. The resistance has little if anything to do with Islam directly. The Pashtuns are not overly Islamic, in any case. But they resist invaders.
The Pashtuns resisted the British last time they invaded ... 100 years ago. They fought the British to a draw. They have done it again, this time with the help of the Punjabis.
The power elite behind these wars is winning most of them. But not this one. The elites buggered Muammer Gaddafi and then broadcast it. They caused Hosni Mubarak to appear prone in a cage in court. They are now attacking Syria and targeting Iran and even Jordan.
All the bloody, erstwhile allies are being deposed. A new chapter is being created – resurgent Islam utilizing the CIA-controlled Muslim Brotherhood as a proxy.
There is no Great Game. There is no women's liberation. There is no democratization to be had. It is only a group of banking families, apparently ... lashing out that they cannot control the last patch of land that they need to dominate in order to impose global governance. So long as there is somewhere to run and resist the ongoing internationalization, the global elites will not feel safe.
And so we fight ...
We fight to ensure our own slavery. We fight to feel the boot on our collective necks. We fight for the privilege of having that boot smash down on our face over and over again – as George Orwell once wrote.
Those who are fighting are poisoning themselves with the depleted uranium of their own armaments. They are further poisoned by vaccines supposed to bolster their "health." Often these soldiers come home with grave wounds and missing limbs. More soldiers have killed themselves than have been killed in war.
They say only a few thousand US soldiers have died. The statistics lie. They undercount fatalities by defining soldiers in a certain way. And they don't count all the hideous wounded.
But the elites are running out of time and good will of their own subject populations. Bombs keep going off in Afghanistan. Infiltrators are rendering the Afghan "army" and "police" unworkable. The regime of Hamid Karzai is only strong so long as US and NATO soldiers provide him protection. When they go, so does he.
Eventually, he will go. The war is not infinitely sustainable. And when the US and NATO goes, they will leave behind a civil war between the Pashtuns, Punjabis and the other ethnicities in the area.
This will be the legacy of the war in Afghanistan. A further, bloody civil war. It will come courtesy of power elite hubris. The Pashtun farmers and their families will be the ones to suffer, as always.
Conclusion: This is the truth of the war. It has been fought to expand empire. It is failing for the same reason.
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Posted by libertyjones on 10/27/12 11:01 AM
Agree with Timur... "perhaps it is going the way it was planned." Given the history of the region perhaps it is the best place on the planet for perpetual war. Why perpetual war? Follow the money.
From The Creature From Jekyll Island, G.E. Griffen: ( Step 5. of his "Rothschild Formula" ):
"No nation can be allowed to remain militarily stronger than it's adversaries, for that could lead to peace and a reduction of debt... ... ... neither side should be allowed a decisive victory or defeat. While we must always proclaim the virtues of peace, the unspoken objective is perpetual war"
Puts the cuts to our military in a different perspective... ...
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Posted by Merridth80 on 10/27/12 09:52 AM
This message, great as it is, is lost on the "Civilized World"! There are those of us, I'm Thinking Ron Paul, who like me & millions more, that liken this war on the Arab World to the American War with Brittan! We were a stiff-necked people! We did not want someone bringing their Laws & mores in on us. We were intent on governing ourselves! The Pushtans& Punjabis Have been governing themselves for Thousands of years. And, in their own circumstances, They Know Best!
Why doesn't some one direct them to the base of the problem and step back while they solve their own problem? As America Did! Given their record of winning their own battles, I have no doubt that they are up to the task!
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Posted by seer on 10/26/12 10:50 PM
"The West is there to eradicate one of the last pockets of resistance to globalism. The Pashtuns and the Punjabis are ancient, independent tribes. This war is between the bankers and the tribes."
I may question this statement and I am sure the Powers to be would like to see a civil war; however, the current war is perpetrated by the military-industrial complex and has morphed in its purpose.
Originally it was to get Osama, who probably died years ago. Once this poor pseudo Osama was killed and dumped in the ocean it would seem the troops would withdraw? No, now the mantra is to establish a democracy and defeat the Taliban.
It reminds me of Vietnam in that there really is no concerted effort to win; if so there would be several million allied troops on the ground. The military spending has bankrupted the USA and only time will tell how the USA will escape becoming a second tier economic force.
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"If so there would be several million allied troops on the ground."
This would call for a US draft. Won't happen.
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Posted by laceja on 10/26/12 10:26 PM
I still think the real objective is to bankrupt the world to justify the NWO. So, in my opinion, the real objective is to simply spend as much money as possible, while creating the military toys, that can (will) be used to contain us.
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The Afghan war is not going to bankrupt the world ... just NATO and the US voluntary military, which is surely an unintended consequence ...
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Posted by DarbyJie on 10/26/12 08:45 PM
"Are you sure? Why Afghanistan - maybe conquest really is their goal?"
No, not sure, as I stated, particularly as I can't see what is gained by this... But as Sherlock said, when you've eliminated all other possibilities, what remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth..
Thus I don't have to burden myself with trying to read the motives of the "elite", I just know that what's presented ISN'T real and thus am able to avoid adding a new layer of misinformation to the ever-accumulating stockpile of junk-info.
See, DB? :^)
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Good points. But we cover dominant social themes - that's what we do ...
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Posted by Danny B on 10/26/12 08:21 PM
I suspect that the neocons and the oldcons, et al in their Georgetown mansions have NO concept of what the people of Afghanistan are like. The Af-Paks sit on the most traveled invasion route in the world. Here is a partial list of their experiences; From Wiki
"Well known invasions of the area have been predominantly through the Khyber Pass, such as the invasions by Darius I and Alexander the Great and also include Genghis Khan and later Mongols such as Duwa, Qutlugh Khwaja and Kebek. Among the Muslim invasions of South Asia, the famous invaders coming through the Khyber Pass are the Turks such as Mahmud Ghaznavi, Muhammad Ghori and the Turkic-Mongols sucPPeN15 Finally, Sikhs under Ranjit Singh, in 1798 captured the Khyber Pass. Hari Singh Nalwa, who manned the Khyber pass for years became a household name in Afghanistan.[1][2]"
You don't see Eskimos leave Alaska because of cold weather. You don't see Afghanis leave their country because of invasions.
They have devised low-tech solutions to our high-tech war.
Click to view link
They can't give up and go home. They have no inclination to stop fighting.
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Good, thanks. Some may think it is simple to invade and occupy both Afghanistan and Pakistan. But such an invasion postulates full the mobilization of countries involved. There is no existential threat to justify this and thus there has been no full-scale invasion ... Also, dropping atomic weapons on these countries is not a feasible solution. The TWO bombs dropped on Japan are still controversial some 70 years later.
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Posted by jwoop66 on 10/26/12 08:19 PM
The Elites are trying to take down the pashtuns and the pujabis because they are a stumbling block to world govt?
Seriously?
Why not more troops? why not more troops from more countries? Why not nukes. Why not go after Pakistan?
If the pashtuns and punjabis are the last of the problem, it should be easy to find the resources from somewhere on the planet to overthrow them .
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Posted by DarbyJie on 10/26/12 05:11 PM
"It might be but I think that there were other reasons. However illogical it may sound, perhaps it is going the way it was planned. That other Orwellian phrase about perpetual peace... .."
TimurTheLame:
I concur in being suspicious.
I believe there is a 'psy-op' here, just can't 'see' it quite clearly... I tend to disbelieve this fairytale narrative, tho, that the glorious savages have vanquished the Monster Technological Power by being too inaccessible in their mountain caves...
The reason? Because, in logic, high-tech technology would probably find a way to devastate any such "trifling" physical impediments... there are likely _any number_ of gory solutions the boys in the Think Tanks could conjure up--: they might decide to drop the moon on these guys (just barely kidding here)... ..
... Hmm. No, just doesn't wash, in my book.
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Yes, this is the meme of the all-powerful, technologically adept army. The West can take down the Taliban whenever it chooses. Are you sure? And why choose Afghanistan for a perpetual war? Is it merely convenient - or perhaps the goal was actually conquest.
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Posted by TimurTheLame on 10/26/12 03:35 PM
I agree that the official reasons for fighting in Afghanistan are beyond stupid but disagree that the real purpose is to eradicate pockets of resistance to globalism.
As always, I might be in error of giving the benefit of the doubt that the "West" has more than just a little bit of intelligence but one must take the stand that they are monumentally stupid to support this article's premise.
Does the war room at the pentagon really resemble the one in Dr Strangelove?
No one has to go back to the time of Alexander the Great to realize the difficulty of dealing with this region. Even the British experience can be ignored. All one has to do is study the Soviet experience. That was not so long ago.
To wit, the Red Army, with a common border, no press interference and a naturally savage disposition eventually bogged down and found itself with a tar baby. Added to which, when they finally wanted to withdraw, they were prevented from doing so until they paid some more tribal tribute. That is humiliation in my books.
Some analysts put forth a convincing argument that it was the Afghan invasion, and not Bedtime For Bonzo's star wars that brought about the final collapse of the USSR.
So then, are we to assume that ignorance (plus hubris) with the goal of eliminating the fighting percentage of 250 million people in rough terrain was in the service of globalism?
It might be but I think that there were other reasons. However illogical it may sound, perhaps it is going the way it was planned. That other Orwellian phrase about perpetual peace... ..
Cheers-
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Posted by Bosco Hurn on 10/26/12 01:30 PM
One thing DB forgot to mention (but perhaps it goes without saying at this point): When war is your business, any war is a good deal.
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Posted by camigda on 10/26/12 12:04 PM
I 2nd that remark AA!
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Posted by Abu Aardvark on 10/26/12 11:40 AM
Why does one visit the Daily Bell's website in the first place?
To read articles like this one, as far as I'm concerned ...
Excellent!
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Thanks.
