Editorial
The Dilemma of False Terrorism
A New York Times article has attracted attention in alternative media circles for its portrait of Bernard von NotHaus, the "Rosa Parks of the constitutional currency movement."
Entitled, "Prison May Be the Next Stop on a Gold Currency Journey," the article describes von NotHaus and his current predicament.
Mr. von NotHaus was convicted of using precious metals to back a currency he called the Liberty Dollar, which he says was "a private voluntary currency" for those conducting business outside the government's purview.
His name is Bernard von NotHaus, and he is a professed "monetary architect" and a maker of custom coins found guilty last spring of counterfeiting charges for minting and distributing a form of private money called the Liberty Dollar.
... Mr. von NotHaus managed over the last decade to get more than 60 million real dollars' worth of his precious metal-backed currency into circulation across the country — so much, and with such deep penetration, that the prosecutor overseeing his case accused him of "domestic terrorism" for using them to undermine the government.
This is, of course, the crux of the matter. Is von NotHaus a "terrorist"?
Here's his answer, according to the article: "This is the United States government ... It's got all the guns, all the surveillance, all the tanks, it has nuclear weapons, and it's worried about some ex-surfer guy making his own money? Give me a break!"
Of course, in a sense this is disingenuous. Simply by circulating honest money, von NotHaus WAS undermining the power elite that apparently runs the US and much of the rest of the world.
It is this elite that has undermined money in the US, starting with experiments in monopoly fiat that increased after the Civil War. Before the Civil War, people in the US were relatively free to do what they wanted with money. Formally minted gold and silver were put into circulation via the US mint but plenty of privately circulated gold and silver made its way into the economy in non-coin form.
Gold and silver WERE money and banks that warehoused that money offered receipts that were circulated in lieu of the actual money metals. There were various problems with this system, but it was relatively free compared with what came later and granted a good deal of independence to the people using the system.
The end for any kind of sound money came with the Civil War and the rise of the US fedgov. As time passed, the power of the fedgov when it came to money expanded. Eventually, in 1913, the US Federal Reserve was formed.
The Fed was created by various supporters of money power. It was a private/quasi-public system of monopoly money that acquired its power by virtue of its close association with the government. But it was evidently and obviously controlled privately.
This private control has funded the expansion of the globalist agenda ever since. Essentially, the power elite has built a seamless construct of military, corporate and educational control that controls the world. Every part of this larger construct constantly evolves towards bigness and complexity.
The mantra, endlessly chanted, is one interconnected, "small" world and the enforcers of this meme are the West's Intel agencies and the larger judicial system.
Think of the power elite as a kind of metaphorical cuckoo bird. The cuckoo lays eggs in the nests of other birds and tricks the parents into raising the cuckoo chicks instead of their own. The entire Western demos has been hollowed out from the inside. The cuckoos are everywhere. Nothing is as it seems. Society's resources have been taken over and their purposes perverted.
The main modern lever of this ongoing takeover is the "terrorist." One who has come of age in the 2000s may well be aware of how this meme has been cultivated. In fact, the theme (as with many dominant social themes) goes back decades.
This meme would be expanded after 9/11 – a tragic attack that is commonly held to have been caused by an apparent CIA asset, Osama bin Laden. The "terrorism" theme has been expanded aggressively ever since.
The beauty of the expanding terrorism meme is its vagueness. "Birthers" and "truthers" and now "preppers" are all accused in various contexts of being "terrorists." The term terrorist is constantly evolving because it is meant to be a catch-all term.
Ultimately, anyone who challenges the authority of the state (and thus the money power that stands behind it and controls it) is at risk for being labeled a terrorist. This explains why US prosecutors can label von NotHaus a terrorist. The term is merely a convenient nomenclature. It has been purposefully "evolved" so that an extracurricular judicial system can be brought into effect.
Simply by redefining definitions over time − and manufacturing events to buttress the terminology − the elites have been able to bring into being a new class of felon (the terrorist) and a new and oppressive judicial system, as well.
Here at the Daily Bell, we call this evolution "directed history." The elites, having cleverly created a new kind of criminal and an extra-curricular judicial process, are eager to generate the next phase of directed history − the show trial to illustrate how things have changed.
The purpose is intimidation. Elites – panicked by the Internet and what we call the Internet Reformation – are attempting to realize their apparent plans for world government at breakneck speed. Nothing must stand in their way, certainly not alternative currencies that threaten their monetary chokehold.
My perspective would be that this wholesale creation will not be any more successful than other elite memes now foundering. The Internet has exposed the power elite and made their manipulations ever more questionable.
That doesn't mean they won't continue to try, however. The terrorist meme is an especially useful one. Over time it could be applied – via certain show trials – to almost anyone who challenges elite plans. Perhaps this is how the elites REALLY intend to deal with the threat of the Internet Reformation.
I will end with the observation that while I think this is a very clever plan (if I have analyzed it correctly), I am not sure it will work. Many people already understand the nature of elite manipulations. Directed history tends to work well when it is created in secret.
Like a magic trick, once its mechanism is exposed, it tends to be a great deal less convincing. Sure, the terrorist meme is a ubiquitous one but the more it is applied, the more people will likely see through it.
The more money power tries to oppress and manipulate citizens, the more it drives people to the Internet where they begin to discover the truth.
It is said the bigger the lie, the more people believe it. But perhaps the Internet is bigger than the biggest lie.
I certainly hope so.
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Posted by provolone on 11/05/12 10:23 PM
We are all skeptics here. Excuse my Godwin, but cows will eat grass, dogs will bark, and Nazi will nazi...
The first amendment did not protect Anwar al Aulaqi, or Bradley Manning, as thier words became terrorist in nature. Somehow that even extended to Aulaqi's son. This constitutional republic farce is running extra laps on the laugh track.
The terrorism meme will continue to be trotted out in the same way as the red scare, but with more flexibility and more dire punsihments. There is nothing new under the sun.
Of course it is unjust and the guy is basically screwed. We can all agree here. The question is what are we going to do about it?
Just identifying the discrepancies in their freedom and justice narratives, is not enough. Words mean action.
I ask this here not because, I am unappreciative of The Daily Bell's continuing efforts to document these important events, but because you have established a community where there seems to be some consensus on what I have described above. Action seems like the natural progression, although I am unsure of the techniques or methods to employ.
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Action is education. Action is "human action." Take care of yourself and your family as best you can and educate others in your community as you must. Emigrate and continue elsewhere. Better times are coming once the worst is over. Smaller communities, secession, non-violent protest are all "techniques."
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Posted by provolone on 11/05/12 12:56 AM
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While I do not contest that NotHaus was persecuted by the government, I agree with the Lew Rockwell article in that he could have been more practical and pragmatic in his approach. Outside of alarmist rhetoric, can we honestly consider him a scapegoat or martyr for monetary freedom?
Back to the main thrust of the article, of course the war on terror and the associated infrastructure has been used to stifle dissent. Anyone can google the stories about journalists targeted by the no fly list. The pattern is that draconian policies are never rolled back, only increased upon iterations of 'emergencies'.
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The issue here, which the Rockwell article does not discuss, is that NotHaus is now being branded a "terrorist." This is an alarming escalation of rhetoric in more ways than one ...
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Posted by mava on 11/04/12 06:36 PM
"To expect access to information and truth to convert humanity into enlightened beings is no different than taking a mentally challenged dullard, locking him into a research library and expecting him emerge as a learned person. "
Awesome example. I am looking at the people today using the internet, and what I see (observed a family last night), is even worse. They are not even locked in the library. The doors are open, everyone is free to walk in, and there are three things they can do there easily: talk and see each other, observe disrobed females, and blubber. 99% has no idea what all those bookshelves actually contain.
How much learning and access to information is required to realize that no one else has any right to your income but you? If so, what do you call anyone who says he has the right for your income? A terrorist!
There is no knowledge nor internet required to have a common sense. And if one doesn't, I doubt that even the magic of the internet can teach him that common sense.
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Posted by Just John on 11/04/12 03:20 PM
God does love "Elbow grease" of both kinds; mental and physical. No-one will make it happen for you... do it yourself. Have Faith in your own abilities, bring them into power by making needs and wants parallel, then believe!
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Posted by DarbyJie on 11/04/12 02:44 PM
Why do the PTB drown us in cameras? What is their Great Snoop psychology all about; are our persecutors just unfortunately nosy?
Here's an interesting question: how far would the American Revolution have gotten if every word the Sons of Liberty exchanged with each other was broadcast to the enemy: the British? Now THAT would have been a stillborn event indeed.
So, we have the Surveillance Society; imo the most powerful enemy of freedom seekers ever devised.*
*The Internet, our supposed savior.
This is ironic, is it not?
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*The Internet, our supposed savior.
TThe Internet has sparked vast socio-political movements that have yet to fully play out. No one is suggesting that the Internet is a "savior," only that it is fundamentally signficant event in human history, and one that will eventually reshape the world.
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Posted by amanfromMars on 11/04/12 01:50 PM
Reference the negative despair posted by mava on 11/04/12 12:11 PM
It is indeed then most fortunate, mava, that there are those who are wiser than just wise and would have noted your concerns, which are valid enough in undereducated mankind, and have solved the dilemma which so paralyses one and so many in non-effective action and a pretty useless state of apathy.
To them is the Internet an unbeatable weapon they can wield with fantastic precision, and your fabulous doubt at it being so easily so, delivers anonymous invisible stealth to programs and algorithms which have, and are to replace the unfit for future greater intelligent game purpose status quo establishments/fool organisations.
You can be assured though that incumbents will be given the opportunity by the wiser of the wise to fund, and thus be allowed to retain a semblance of power in the new control paradigm, before there be any precipitous action which will destroy them in their bases. Such is only fair and most reasonable. And pity not the prize fool who would seek to take unfair advantage of such uncommon generosity, for their demise will be swift and deservedly merciless.
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Posted by TimurTheLame on 11/04/12 01:38 PM
@ Auntie Wrusser
I don't know if your entire post was addressed to me but since I was mentioned may I suggest that it is perhaps you that missed my point. I can't go through your post in detail because your wording/format is confusing to me.
I will however re-iterate the major points I was trying to make which were:
1) The hope of an 'internet reformation' in my opinion is stillborn.
2) The masses of asses are still ignorant though virtually all are connected.
The sum total of all the people whose great awareness was enabled by the internet that you catalogued would be such a small percentage of the global population as to be insignificant as well as being further compartmentalized as everybody has his or her own special cause or dragon to slay.
The internet has had 10 years when it went from a high ubiquity to near total connectivity and an argument could be made that reformation movements have actually regressed as time went on. More distractions, more infiltration and more countermeasures can do that.
You incredulously state " No internet reformation underway?'.
By this I read that you think that the 'internet reformation' is presently a work in progress. Well what in the world do you think should happen for it to reach a culmination point?
We have already had 911, illegal wars, daily scandals, the greatest daylight heist in world history (Sept 2008), BP, Fukushima and many, many more brain shattering events and no 'reformation'. Perhaps you should look at a list of the most popular sites visited, the most popular search terms and data of that sort. Crunch the numbers. Then look at the top of this post and re-read my points.
If you have knowledge of anything that resembles a genuine groundswell of a movement that has been created by the internet please inform me. Listing disparate groups or giving selected examples of elevated awareness on unrelated issues is not convincing. I could just as easily provide a list of special groups created to counter the genuine ones ( or genuinely stupid but sincere ones doing the same job) and give many examples of exponentially elevated stupidity thanks to the internet.
To expect access to information and truth to convert humanity into enlightened beings is no different than taking a mentally challenged dullard, locking him into a research library and expecting him emerge as a learned person.
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"By this I read that you think that the 'internet reformation' is presently a work in progress. Well what in the world do you think should happen for it to reach a culmination point?"
You expect a global upheaval in a decade? This is a very short time. So many elite memes are under signficant attack (from central banking to global warming, etc.) that it is sometimes difficult to count all of them. The summation - the upshot - will be a much changed society. The changes have begun and are continuing, whether you notice them or not. The old certainies have died. The issue now is what will replace them. And this is a matter of when not if ...
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Posted by doc1evans on 11/04/12 12:54 PM
Gosh, why does the government have this backward? The saying is, "bad money drives good money out of circulation." Thus, Liberty Dollars were never a threat to the greenbacks. I find the gentleman's name far more suspicious, "von NotHaus?"
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Posted by mava on 11/04/12 12:11 PM
If I was in charge of managing the propaganda of today, I would say that the most flawed premise behind all the hopes for the internet reformation is that it is the tool that will finally help the people to achieve the freedom.
This premise is flawed from the very beginning, as it presumes that what keep us from achieving is the absence of tool or weapon. You can observe the more primitive variation of the same fallacy in everyday life, when you hear someone saying: "I would do this and that if I was rich", specifically describing the possible solutions that same person has today. The truth, of course, is, that had he been rich, he would be even in the worse situation than he is today. And in cases where a poor person wins lottery, typically we see the confirmation in a relatively short time.
This is so, because the reason the person has those problems is because he is not willing to develop skills necessary to solve them. With more money, his character flaws will simply result in him exacerbating his situation. If he could not manage little money, he certainly will fail with the big money, popular theatrical fiction non-withstanding.
Like a two year old who just fell of the tricycle, he cries and exclaims that he fell because this is a tricycle! Had it been daddy's eighteen-wheeler, he'd be racing around just fine!
The cause of success or failure is in our character, not in our tools. Our tools simply determine the efficiency of the process, bu the character determines it's direction.
Another example is how the poor went for paper money with an explicit purpose to use it as a tool for controlling the rich, and how they found themselves to be controlled while the rich had found ways of using the system.
In short, a fool hopes for a better implement to his dream, while wise learns to make his dreams real.
Internet, no different that the press, the paper money, or the democracy, will end up being just another tool, that the people were hoping would amplify their "struggle". In the end, just like all the other tools, it will multiply the efficiency of those who strive to achieve (in this case, to achieve domination), while it will multiply the obstacles to understanding and the misinformation for those who hoped for a wonder weapon that would solve the problem of lack of determination and skills.
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"Another example is how the poor went for paper money with an explicit purpose to use it as a tool for controlling the rich, and how they found themselves to be controlled while the rich had found ways of using the system."
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Very good! There are people promoting pure governmet fiat even now, and we wonder what their agenda is.
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Posted by mava on 11/04/12 11:51 AM
I think Timurlane had an excellent argument.
Now, Wrusssr, presents us some questions, several of which seem to testify against his own argument.
"Our economic tar pit perps were exposed?" No one was exposed. You've been spoon fed an acceptable version of non-truth, through the internet, and you've believed it.
"The irradiation of the Middle East occurred?" - This, according to Wrusssr, is an evidence against Timurlane's point? So, if Internet wasn't so useful for freedom, then we wouldn't use the radiation in the middle east?
"9/11 was settled before the speculation began?" - so you think in absence of the internet, they'd urgently disclosed all the truth instead?
"Osama resurrected himself thrice thereafter?" - sure, and this supposedly is a proof that the internet helped us?
"The world isn't over populated? That virtually all of its money is controlled out of London?" - not true, and you testify against your own point by sticking to a popular myth instilled by the internet.
"Do you still read newspapers? Time? Newsweek? Stuff like that?" No, I don't.
Nor did I read them before the internet. I read books and still do. I am not sure where you were going with this...
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Have you considered that the whole of internet might be consisting of nothing but the honey-pots? This very website, in theory, could be a honeypot tasked with disseminating a myth, that is acceptable as long as it takes you further from the truth?
Have you considered, that the biggest problem of an agitation agent is legitimacy, and that the internet solves this problem? (It is far better to have 10 000 000 unskilled agents propagandizing the masses than to have 10 highly paid talking heads?)
This is because out of necessity to counter, there will be a lot of opposition to 10 super-agents (talking heads), who can not seriously contradict each- other. But there will be virtually no opposition to 10 000 000 web sites essentially capable of propagating thousands of mutually contradicting versions, all being fake?
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"Our economic tar pit perps were exposed?" No one was exposed. You've been spoon fed an acceptable version of non-truth, through the internet, and you've believed it.
DB: Again, the sheer number of recent secession movements seems to indicate you are over- pessimistic.
"The irradiation of the Middle East occurred?" - This, according to Wrusssr, is an evidence against Timurlane's point? So, if Internet wasn't so useful for freedom, then we wouldn't use the radiation in the middle east?
DB: No, you wouldn't KNOW about it. The Internet has provided the critical information.
"The world isn't over populated? That virtually all of its money is controlled out of London?" - not true, and you testify against your own point by sticking to a popular myth instilled by the internet.
DB: The entire world's population could fit into the state of CT. It would seem a power elite controls central banking. There is much historical evidence to support this.
Have you considered that the whole of internet might be consisting of nothing but the honey-pots? This very website, in theory, could be a honeypot tasked with disseminating a myth, that is acceptable as long as it takes you further from the truth?
DB: Sure, anything's possible. But it is the Internet that provides us with information to better understand our world. What you do with that information is up to you.
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Posted by Wrusssr on 11/04/12 04:55 AM
No Internet reformation underway?
Uncle Timur, you miss the point.
Absent traditional media, can you explain why or how:
Millions decided to refuse vaccine shots for a pandemic that wasn't?
The Global Warming hoax was outed?
Our economic tar pit perps were exposed?
The irradiation of the Middle East occurred?
Millions rallied for a genetically modified food fight in California with nary a peep from MSM?
9/11 was settled before the speculation began?
Osama resurrected himself thrice thereafter?
Nobels and Pulitzers are sometimes tossed at political scrap heaps?
The world isn't over populated? That virtually all of its money is controlled out of London?
Do you still read newspapers? Time? Newsweek? Stuff like that?
Well, leave that old hum-drum news behind and plunge into the Internet waters! You'll be glad you did and, at times, they'll take your breath away! Oh, you'll still find propaganda and disinformation and con artists and spinsters and outright lies and liars there, too . . . but . . . you'll also find that's where many of them go to die.
And, if you keep a sharp eye out, you'll find truth there as well.
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This is very good.
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Posted by hskiprob on 11/03/12 09:32 PM
Interesting point is that with a federal government, the central government is subordinant to the States and that with a unitary government the centrol government is superior. Just the opposite of what you would think.
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Our Constitution actually brought in a unitary government and probably why Jefferson and others preferred the Confederation. Obviously a federal government is easier to manange for the oligarchs and why they did not like the Confederation and worked so hard to create the Constitution.
It was surely an experiment that ended up the way one would expect. I wonder as a friend of mine says, the less hierarcy the better and would that apply to voluntary associations as well.
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Posted by Danny B on 11/03/12 08:34 PM
Well, if NotHaus is a terrorist for undermining the dollar,,, what is Keshe?
He would destroy the petro-dollar. This is one of those "situations" that doesn't easily go away.
Some of you have read Bix Weir and the "Road to Roota" story. It's interesting.
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I don't make any claims for veracity.
Then, there is the "Wanta" story.
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There has been a LOT written.
Once again, I don't have the background to know the veracity of the story.
Moving on, there is Benjamin Fulford. It's entertaining to consider the idea that there might be a white dragon somewhere.
Keshe is an entirely different story. Start with Wiki.
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Like most not-yet-developed subjects, you need to do a lot of reading. More links.
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Much of this stuff is related to the effects discovered by Searl.
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If you have the science background, you should read the work of Raoul Hatem.
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The first thing that got him started was when he noticed that a pendulum swung differently during an eclipse.
Much of this is related to the Casimir effect. The Casimir effect is caused because 2 different forms of infinity are different sizes.
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What this relates to is that gravity is a push, not a pull. As long as this is not understood, we can't very well deal with gravity or the energy that produces it.
Relative to this, gravity is OPTIONAL for some people. The martial arts masters can make themselves heaver or lighter at will. This vid shows a guy walking across paper covered frames.
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We're still a long way from understanding plasma physics.
Wait a minute,, how did I get from terrorism to plasma?
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Again, Danny B, you take time off from providing valid and insightful links to providing viewers with most questionable ones. It is almost like a ratio - 90 percent interesting, valid links and 10 percent that are most questionable and would tend to be confusing to anyone seeking truth.
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Posted by Ol' Grey Ghost on 11/03/12 07:39 PM
"Ultimately, anyone who challenges the authority of the state (and thus the money power that stands behind it and controls it) is at risk for being labeled a terrorist. This explains why US prosecutors can label von NotHaus a terrorist."
They don't even need to write new laws; they can just come up with new creative ways of using old ones...
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Anything's fair in love, war, and boiling frogs...
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Posted by Thomas Molitor on 11/03/12 06:05 PM
Anthony ... How is the Patriot Act of today any different in intent than the Alien and Sedition Acts passed in 1798 by the Federalists? It only took a mere 20 years for John Adams to toss the Constitution into the roaring fire at the White House one wintry night.
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The Alien and Sedition Acts were four laws passed by the United States Congress in 1798 and signed into law by President John Adams, ostensibly designed to protect the United States from citizens of enemy powers during the turmoil following the French Revolution and to stop seditious factions from weakening the government of the new republic. Federalist proponents claimed they were war measures, while the Democratic-Republicans attacked the acts as unconstitutional, an infringement on the rights of the states, and designed primarily to stifle criticism of the administration.
The most controversial of the four statutes was the Sedition Act, which was widely seen as an attempt to curb the vitriolic political abuse directed particularly at the Adams administration. Popular outrage against the laws helped Thomas Jefferson defeat John Adams in the election of 1800 and secure a Republican majority in the Congress.
Jefferson held the acts to be unconstitutional and void and, with James Madison, drafted the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions, which attempted to nullify the federal laws as a prerogative of states. Upon his election in 1800, Jefferson pardoned and ordered the release of all who had been convicted of violating them. Most of the acts expired or were repealed by 1802, although the Alien Enemies Act remains in effect and has frequently been enforced in wartime.
The Alien and Sedition Acts have been excoriated by historians as flagrant violations of American liberties. Their swift repeal underscored the importance Americans placed upon freedoms lately won and of the capacity of the government in its infancy to protect civil liberties.
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Posted by TimurTheLame on 11/03/12 04:43 PM
" Many people already understand the nature of elite manipulations... ."
Yes and many, many more do not. And many of the many that do don't care enough to do more than peck at a keyboard. I am sorry to say it but the 'internet reformation' is stillborn as it applies to societal change. Now that access to the internet is possible for almost anyone throughout the planet, where are the signs that meaningful change is on the way?
In my opinion, I think that the PE may have had anxious moments perhaps 10 years ago. If any 'reformation' were to take place it would have happened then. If the internet were to threaten the existing structure, it would be solved with a form of kill-switch justified by the ruse of terrorism. 911 was the turning point where the PE realized that they could rely on their age old confidence in that the mob was, is, and always will be a herd.
Despite 11 years of keen analysis, photo and video captures and logical fallacies in and of themselves (all accessible at the click of a mouse), one still cannot go into mixed company and initiate a conversation about 911 that differs from the official account without drawing scorn or being considered a kook.
Now, is it being suggested that this same crowd would consider investigating reasoned accounts of the history of the PTB which would be several measures more incredulous then any 911 theory?
The internet is bigger than the biggest lie. It is the million little lies the that keep the herd calm and confused in their enclosure while Mammon decides which ones will be sheared and which ones will be slaughtered.
Dos Centavos.
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CURRENT NORTH AMERICAN SECESSIONIST GROUPS ...
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Lists of active separatist movements (global) ...
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Posted by Just John on 11/03/12 03:33 PM
Be very very afraid... do not grow food... do not collect for consumption rain water... do not associate with others of like mind... stay in the box... it is there to protect you... all alone in the global womb... mother will protect you from yourself.
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Posted by pauloportugal on 11/03/12 03:26 PM
@Just John
... perpetual halloween? Ooops... not in Canada, you could get 10 years for wearing a mask! Better to stay in doors with mama.
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Posted by Adam on 11/03/12 03:21 PM
Forbes: Jon Matonis: ECB: "Roots Of Bitcoin Can Be Found In The Austrian School Of Economics"
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'The ECB (European Central Bank) has produced the first official central bank study of the decentralized cryptographic money known as bitcoin... '
'Bitcoin fully embodies the spirit of denationalized money as it seeks no authority for its continued existence and it recognizes no political borders for its circulation. Indeed according to the report, proponents see Bitcoin as 'a good starting point to end the monopoly central banks have in the issuance of money' and 'inspired by the former gold standard.'
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Interesting ...
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Posted by pauloportugal on 11/03/12 02:50 PM
I find the whole "domestic terrorism" issue nauseating. I suppose that any of the people who bought Liberty Dollars are also guilty by association? Where does the line become drawn? Answer; Wherever the elite desirous of global governance and eugenics desire it to be.
Good editorial... 5 stars from me.
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Thanks.
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