Glad to see that someone stood up to the MSM over this bulls--t. If you guys are interested, I have a site where you can take a Ron Paul Quiz. Check it out: Click to view link

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Thanks.

For us Muslims living in the Middle East, Jon is just another jewish scheiss - no offense to Daily bell readers.

I would tend to agree with you in principle erumisato. I read an interesting article the other day from one of my information sources who happens to be an Israeli refugee living as a political prisoner in Bolivia. It wasn't about Freemasonry directly but rather the secret services of the Anglo nations, the US,UK,Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Israel.

Here is the article: Click to view link Here is an excerpt:

"Many years ago, Peter Wright published Spycatcher. He was a high officer within the British counterintelligence organization, usually known as MI5. He describes there systematic crimes performed by the British government against its people.

He describes how the MI5 ruined the life of an innocent man. MI5 agents spread rumors about that man until he was forced to leave town. Afterwards they discovered he was innocent but just round-filed his case. MI5 didn't apologize nor indemnify the victim. Years later, the BBC published an article about Zimbabwe's Dirty Tricks Brigade, but failed mentioning the fact that the British are a world leader on such units since the days of Queen Elizabeth I.

Peter Wright specifically explains that many of those within MI5 are Freemasons, apparently since through this occupation they can gain valuable information for the International Freemasonry. I won't comment on Freemasonry too much. Simply this organization is plagued with disinformation. I just want to state many of its known symbols appear to have deep connections to the Jewish culture and to the Hebrew language. They are present also in Israel; in fact there a lodge a few blocks from the Tel Aviv's residence of the Mossad agent appearing in this website as 'Arik.'"

Thanks Abu. I gave some more thought to your original question last night and I recalled that the information on Mitt Romney was given in a relatively friendly manner while the others seemed more hostile. I then recalled that the Mormons are very big on genealogy and the web site you linked to is of course replete with family trees for the Presidential candidates.

This led me to conclude that the attacks you were reading were possibly from Romney supporters and the web site itself may be a Mormon endeavour. The Christopher Jon Bjerknes page at Wikipedia may have been taken down because it spelled out his links to Mormonism. These are all speculations and we need more information to make a clear assessment of the situation.

All the paranoid talk today about Masonry is just ignorant, paranoid chit-chat that might have had some measure of truth many years ago. Today this kind of nonsense about masonry takes away from our battle with the real enemies of freedom.

What has changed over these 50 or so years that has diluted the influence of the the higher degree members of the Masonic Orders? One day they just up and decided to transfer power to the CFR and that was that? I would love to get the DB's take on this subject.

Surely you can understand that those of us among the Profane who have no first hand knowledge of this merry band of do-gooders , yet have repeatedly found their footprints on historical documents and events of great importance, and their symbolism EVERYWHERE one looks, might not just accept the (rather out of character for Bell Elves) throwing about a few words like "paranoid", "ignorant" and "nonsense" as a substitute for the rational and thought provoking discussions that I've come to love about this site.

In fact, it has been this very technique that has been used so often by the mainstream about the subjects that are so often discussed here, that not only have I grown immune to their powers, I also find that my "Spider-Sense" starts to tingle when they are used so cavalierly. Has a line been crossed here? It this the subject in our search for truth and liberty that's too "tin-foil hat" for the DB? I would think that if landing on the moon was up for debate, surely discussing a group with a history as storied and influential as the Freemasons would not be shut down so ham-handedly.

The symbolism and practice of Freemasonry has to do with building one's own life.

Is that not what we here want?

David, thanks so much for your answer. Very eloquently put, sir, i.e., DB Standard Gold.


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DB: "While there is some truth back in history to Free Masonry being used at times by elites as a mechanism to advance their power and controls long ago, anyone really familiar with Masonry understands that today it is only a shadow of the organization it was at the founding of the US or even 50 years ago. (... )

All the paranoid talk today about Masonry is just ignorant, paranoid chit-chat that might have had some measure of truth many years ago. Today this kind of nonsense about masonry takes away from our battle with the real enemies of freedom"

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Spot-on, DB. Thanks to you too, of course.

A hearty Thank You to the MSM. The publicity of you blatantly side-lining,
Ron Paul, as so sweetly put by Jon Stewart.Has the inter web awash with
RP blogs no one is talking about any other politician.
OH THANK YOU,

If anyone is interested in clueing American into the condition of their country and why they need Ron Paul I suggest they watch this interview with Catherine Austin Fitts by Alex Jones from November 2010. Click to view link

Here is the intro to the programme:

Former Assistant Secretary of Housing under George H.W. Bush Catherine Austin Fitts blows the whistle on how the financial terrorists have deliberately imploded the US economy and transferred gargantuan amounts of wealth offshore as a means of sacrificing the American middle class. Fitts documents how trillions of dollars went missing from government coffers in the 90's and how she was personally targeted for exposing the fraud.

Fitts explains how every dollar of debt issued to service every war, building project, and government program since the American Revolution up to around 2 years ago - around $12 trillion - has been doubled again in just the last 18 months alone with the bank bailouts. "We're literally witnessing the leveraged buyout of a country and that's why I call it a financial coup d'état, and that's what the bailout is for," states Fitts.

Massive amounts of financial capital have been sucked out of the United States and moved abroad, explains Fitts, ensuring that corporations have become more powerful than governments, changing the very structure of governance on the planet and ensuring we are ruled by private corporations. Pension and social security funds have also been stolen and moved offshore, leading to the end of fiscal responsibility and sovereignty as we know it.

That's what we said in 2007/8 and here we are back at "ignore" again.

I have read a bit of The Armenian Genocide by Christopher Jon Bjerknes. He is the quoted writer on the web page you linked to and is probably either the author of it or the inspiration for it. His web page at Wikipedia has been taken down which in itself is interesting.

Browsing through the web site and some of its links it appears that it is interested, as is Bjerknes, in tracing connections of public figures to Jewish, Freemason and royal ancestry. The reason for this is I believe that Bjerknes subscribes to the belief that there is a profound relationship between Freemasonry, the occult and Jewish Zionism. These are then linked to the ruling elites of the world. Sarah Palin also has a page devoted to her as has Barack Obama. Both apparently have royal blood and are descended from early American leading families. Sarah Palin has a maternal Jewish grandfather and mother and her mother is Jewish. Her father is an evangelical Christian. She is of course a committed Zionist and according to this website destined for the White House by the Zionists just as was Barack Obama. There are plenty of other connections for every candidate provided by this website so Ron Paul is not the only one chosen for examination. At least he isn't being ignored as he is by the controlled media.

Ron Paul has himself said that he was a member and I believe secretary of Lambda Chi Alpha fraternity at college and they do have freemason connections. He is grateful to them for helping him make it financially through college by providing him with employment. His wife Carol is also identified publicly as being a member of the Order of the Eastern Star. I have no information on it nor have I researched it but I imagine that like many of these fraternity associations it is involved with community service work. Any freemasonry involvement in the occult for political power and influence is at the higher degrees. I would say that most lower degree freemasons are simply there for the contacts provided and to be involved in charitable endeavours.

That Ron Paul will be attacked on this basis is a certainty as he will be on the usual racist and homophobia charges. I countered these during the 2007/8 campaign by linking to the offending articles and demonstrating that he is actually in favour of INDIVIDUAL rights and leery of GROUP rights which are by their very nature racist and discriminatory in the way they are implemented in society. I believe Rand Paul has also encountered headwinds on these issues.

The problem is of course the profound ignorance of the American electorate on the social impact of Civil Rights legislation and the 14th. Amendment. There is also an attachment to these "Rights" which is very emotional because they have been sold to the people over and over again as being "fair" and "just" which plugs right in to the oath of allegiance they say every morning in public school I believe.

Maybe he was funny this time. He's part of the dialectic though. He is no friend of a liberty lover

John Stewart is not opening his eyes. He is a self-avowed socialist who lives in posh Rumson, NJ just south of NYC. He knows darn well that his role in the propaganda machine is why he gets to live amongst the producers.

Stewart may be opening his eyes, but if he opens them too much and starts questioning the Federal Reserve too openly or all the democarts new wars openly or the aid to Israel too openly or examining the control structre and shared beliefs of the top political insider crowd at the CFR too much then he will be forced to resign and say god bye to the nice TV money.

Why continue the drug war? isn't it racist and handouts to the prison industrial complex.

Why not have free trade with Cuba? isn't free trade good? aren't the exchange of free ideas and cultures good for peace?

Why do we still give so much money to the Eygptian and Saudi military? The false left right pardigm is not set up to handle these questions with anything convincing. ask the question stewart and stewart fans.

This just shows again and again and again why no one is paying attention. The mainstream media's mission is to confuse and utilize the two sided posturing system, Jon Stewart can't be opening his eyes REALLY?

Gandhi: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

I love Jon Stewart.

Jon Stewart did the whole world a favor when he exposed our corporate media for what they are. The lefty bolgs are taking a new look saying that if the corporate media are that afraid of Paul we should know why. In coming months the media will stop ignoring Paul and launch a character assignation. We can also expect dirty tricks, false charges, attempts at entrapment, etc.. I hope comedian Stewart will continue to mock and ridicule the propagandists.

IMO he is the glenn beck of the left. he has good ratings and has to build up credibility somehow or else the msm would be in even greater decline, but i am pretty sure they will support the establishment story at critical junctures when it is most important.

the fix was in on ron paul just as bad in 2008, it was obvious if you watched and the damage to msm has been permament... this time there are certain savvy msm players who are trying to salvage some respect for their franchises

re:"Ron Paul's family are members of Freemasonry and the Order of the Eastern Star, according to someone who should know-Penny Freeman, his Congressional campaign political director and district volunteer coordinator for 10 years"

Big whoop.. I only go by the person's record and Ron Paul has been pretty darn consistent on his stance about the Constitution and sound money. Frankly, I don't know what all the hoopla is about being a free mason anyway. My uncle was a free manson and he was an honorable man with good christian morals. He passed away several years ago. All these people are trying to do is make something out of nothing in my opinion just to confuse the real issues.