Rand Paul "I Will Work With Harry Reid To Let Him Pass His Big Old Tax Hike"

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Interest is the mother of all taxes. It is the reason why the economy must grow to service ever expanding debt via interest.

Every year the US and the UK spend around the same amount on defense as they do merely to service interest payements on government debt. When money could be created interest free.

Whether there is government, tribe or local authority, the exponential growth of interest will necessitate the majority of the wealth flowing to money lenders.

"Analysis:

-An astounding €1574,23 (610,75 + 963,48) of a monthly gross €3100,- income is lost to interest!

-Taxation (VAT + Income Tax) is €1221,50, but half of this, about €610,- is lost to interest the Government pays.

-Taxation (corrected for interest) + Interest takes away an incredible 75% of the disposable income.

-This example shows someone with a reasonable income, but a little less than zero net assets. This is quite common throughout the West: 50% of Americans have zero net assets or less.

-Had he rented a place instead of buying his own apartment, he would not have been better off: 75% of the rent we pay is compensation for the landlord's capital costs.

-All percentages where available are taken from Margrit Kennedy, in the case of clothing and Telecom they have been estimated."

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Bring on the free market. Where people can have freedom from the slavery of interest - a choice of interest free currencies and loans. As it worked for centuries in Christendom, the Islamic Empire and Worgl.

I believe the "One World Government" will lower taxes to garner support from the middle class, so the taxes need to be raised beforehand.

Why you need to pay more taxes:



In the USA one 'federal' dollar spent costs 10 times more than a similarly spent 'state' dollar because of the necessary added bureaucracy (agencies salaries, benefits, pensions, office complexes, information/documentations systems, supplies, vehicles, energy/maintenance costs, etc), also the more complex the bureaucracy the easier it is to siphon off or redirect money for? ideological or corrupt purposes, this money must be replaced.

This happens with every new 'program' and the UN is increasingly getting itself inserted nationally and locally. These expensive agencies produce nothing and generate no revenue. Now? imagine what an 'international' or 'world' dollar would need to cost you (your higher taxes -absolutely) to fund the UN's Agenda 21 to steer all nation's regulatory agencies to regulate and control 'us', our activities and private property by unelected foreign national technocrats. Do we really want to end our Constitution, Bill of Rights and hand US sovereignty and law making ability over to the UN (mostly 3rd world dictatorships easily bought) to regulate the world and us)? That is exactly what has been happening and continues, incrementally and we're funding the process.



What does this have to do with taxing 'medical devices'?



The EPA is now working 'internationally' (INTERNATIONALLY'?) with the UN and UNU (United Nations University); our EPA has awarded a five-year, $2.5 million grant (US citizen's taxes) to the UNU Institute for Sustainability and Peace (UNU-ISP)….and where the fek did they get the money? Did they first mention that to our congress or taxpayers or the people freezing in New Jersey? This is (actually 'you will' pay) to clean up 'e-trash' around the world (around the world?), at least that is what they are telling us what the money is for.
'for Sustainability and Peace' right? … maybe Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton ought to share the next 'Nobel Peace Prize'?

Remember the efficiency and accountability (NOT) of 'world' dollars now funding international bureaucracies. Where do 'world' dollars come from? Obama's stash?

... and this:

Should Law Enforcement Agencies Have The Power To Write And Enforce Whatever Laws They Desire?
Posted on August 4, 2011

"This is how unelected bureaucrats, such as those in the EPA, can write law that wasn't necessarily intended by the Congress. We see it all the time. A good example are the recent new regulations being promulgated by the EPA to control carbon emissions from power generating plants that effectively will enforce a carbon cap-and-trade law that the Congress has in fact already rejected." If you write the law you can fund yourself at will.

Now add in the 'federal' DOE, TSA, SEC, FCC, FDA, etc. and all the unelected czars that don't answer to congress (if you really want to scare yourself look into the background and ideology of just two (of 32) czars; John Holdren and Cass Sunstein).

Funding, funding, funding, spending, spending, spending = tax, tax and more tax, you, you and you. The American people have lost control of our own once representative republic, our founding fathers are rolling in their graves.



"Whoever expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization expects what never was and never will be."
-Thomas Jefferson





Mosque building is up 75% in the USA since Obama was elected. Our taxes have been funding NASA's 'Muslim Outreach' and building and renovating mosques WORLD WIDE (you can bet much US funding (OUR TAXES) was funneled back into the USA build mosques here).

Kindles for the world's libraries (thousands, at $6,000 EACH, google it), starting wars without Congressional approval, subsidizing African farmers, supplying Volts (and generation stations) for the Pentagon and US embassies around the world. Pay more taxes? Funding for the UN to implement Agenda 21 to control our regulatory to control us. And don't forget the funding for TSA, DHS, DOJ, IRS (that added 16,000 new agents, now armed), FDA, EPA, DOE, NSA, ATF, FBI, CIA, etc., FEMA camps, Fusion centers, Secret Service, surveillance cameras & domestic data mining centers, smart meters, bullets for domestic use, mobile bulletproof check point booths, domestic drones, pepper spray, tasers, riot gear, razor wire, military vehicles for domestic use, prisons & growing. They all need their federal office complexes, official federal government vehicles, benefits, pensions and lots of gasoline, all with Obama bucks 'to keep you safe' (except all you terrorists as now newly defined by the FBI). None of these agencies produces anything, generates revenues or creates any value so you see why your taxes need to be raised? And don't forget federal agencies that protect the economy, investors and your pension; the Fed, corrupt rating agencies, corrupt SEC, FTC, CFTC, CME, along with bail outs for JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc. + outrageous bonuses for their failures and all those failed European banks.

Don't forget all those billions in government grants funding development and manufacture of under-producing/high maintenance wind farms, bankrupt solar panels, cancer causing smart meters, RFID chips and -again- Volts. If you question government spending you will be put on a no-fly list, subject to the NDAA and thereby your property can be confiscated. (my rant is longer than this article!). Now you see why you need to have more of your wages confiscated and more of your property and activities taxed while being increasingly monitored and tracked. Incrementally ending our country's sovereignty, our constitutional rights and centralizing federal powers is a very expensive process.


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"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years... . It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national determination practiced in past centuries.'

- David Rockefeller, Bilderberg Meeting, June 1991 Baden, Germany

Thanks to Abu and Summer. Basically I believe anything the private sector can do the government can do worse.

Summer: "Can you actually address the *issues*, *numbers* and *facts* presented by various critics viz., interest or are personalities more important than principles?"

AA: I can. I did. Several times, in fact. Maybe you didn't read it at that time. This is what you wrote and what I answered the other day:

Summer: "I'm sure by now you know I favour Margrit Kennedy's proposals: Zakat/demurrage and interest-free member banks."

AA: "Yes, I know. I also know about Margrit Kennedy's and her husbands UN background, that time value is a fact of life, and that "demurrage" is just another tax: theft, that is."

Summer: "Don't get hung up on structures they can be used for good or bad depending on the 'quality' of people using them."

AA: "I couldn't agree more. Indeed, that's one of the main reasons why I'm against the state/government and all for freedom ... for instance, the freedom to choose what kind of money one uses or the way people handle lending and borrowing."


Another day, another exchange:


Summer: "Interest gives elites control. 80% of wealth is transferred to 10% of the population through interest (Margrit Kennedy)."

AA: "The notion that a psychopathic power elite, apparently bent on worldwide absolutist control, and comprised of merely a few hundred individuals and some thousand enablers - the functional elite, that is - will implement a scheme that "10% of the population" would actually benefit from, is ridiculous - at best.

700 hundred million beneficiaries? Surely you jest, Summer ... "


Then, the current thread:


Summer: "If you are interested in associations alone (I am not) then its not looking good for those whose philosophies you adhere to is it?"

AA: I'm interested in freedom (and facts, for that matter). Interest, for example, is a fact of life (due to time value, of course)

Summer: "You repeatedly ignore the 95% 'money' created by *private banks* when they issue magic loans that we all pay interest on and instead focus on central banks."

AA: Private banks may create all the fiat 'money' they want. Who cares when the state wouldn't protect the ponzi franchise by declaring it to be monopoly 'legal tender' - at gunpoint, that is.

When private banks wouldn't enjoy protection and bailouts via the 'lender of last resort' central banks and the monopoly protecting state, and people could choose freely what money they want to use, the entire tragedy would end rather quickly - and the most precious tool of the power elite with it.


Summer: "What are you prepared to do about interest? Do you really want to justify funding elites for the sake of some insignificant philosophical construct that causes the whole society to suffer; designed by elites themselves to protect their weapon?"


Dave jr answered this one much better than I could:


"You just want different elites, and the worst kind.

Currency is a market function and naturally belongs there, like it used to be. The arguement over interest is probably moot anyway. Anything that can be rented for nothing is going to be inherently worthless at best and more than likely something to avoid because of attached obligations.

I do not believe interest free money can exist in a free market. And a free market is the basis of freedom generally. Freedom is what I am prepared to protect, if I can ever gain it. Your position won't allow that, hence my opposition."

Might one say "AGORA" ? The powers-that-be that control central banks and have put in place a world government infrastructure are engaged in a series of moves to bring us closer to the goal of global governance. This is a possibility but we are seeing a lot of Nationalism in this currency war. It is true the central banks and moreover the Investment Banks have put this system on the brink of collapse. It will be interesting to see how things play out. One world government, not without a big change in the current state of the world.

Interesting article on raising taxes.
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The Income Tax is not only a way of controlling people,but is also a way of controlling inflation. Inflation can be controlled by limiting the amount of fiat money in circulation or by interest rates to retrieve excess currency or by an Income Tax to take off of the street the purchasing power of the individual. Its all part and parcel of modern Keynesian Centrally controlled Fascist economies that have been thrust upon us by the Elitists. With that said,my question is: Why should I pay my "fair share" when I never get my "fair share?"

Abu Aardvark,

Can you actually address the *issues*, *numbers* and *facts* presented by various critics viz., interest or are personalities more important than principles?

If you are interested in associations alone (I am not) then its not looking good for those whose philosophies you adhere to is it?

You repeatedly ignore the 95% 'money' created by *private banks* when they issue magic loans that we all pay interest on and instead focus on central banks.

DB: There really is no reason to levy taxes, let alone confiscatory ones. There must be other reasons ...

BM: I recall those fiscally responsible days, not so long ago, when the US budget deficit was only around $400 billion (hahaha). Then, 2008. Suddenly deficits of $1.0 - $1.5 trillion were the norm, driven by "stimulus" spending.

The same deficit could have been achieved by eliminating personal income taxes, and not increasing the spending.

DB is correct. Income tax is not for revenue. It is for control - every aspect of your financial life is laid bare for the state to see.

@ Summer


"Cheerleader for Hitler's Economics - Ellen Brown is a lawyer by profession, a Greenbacker by confession, and a fan of Adolf Hitler's economics by consistency.

She is quite open about her support for National Socialism's economics, as I shall demonstrate. What is depressing is this: she is getting a respectful hearing in Tea Party circles. Her book, The Web of Debt (2006), is widely cited on the World Wide Web. As of early October, 2010, a Google search for "Ellen Brown" and "Web of Debt" generated close to 600,000 hits. This is huge.

Here is a tactical problem. For two generations, conservatives have been shouted down by the Left with this accusation: "Fascist!" Ellen Brown is now making this accusation plausible. Yet the great irony is this: Ellen Brown is a Leftist. There is nothing even remotely free market or conservative about The Web of Debt. It is a call for a Federally funded welfare state. She praises the New Deal. She praises John Maynard Keynes. She has only one objection to their recommended programs: governments borrowed money to fund them. She wants a welfare state that is funded entirely by paper money printed by Congress. She is about as conservative as Nancy Pelosi.

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Ellen Brown has achieved what no other Greenbacker has achieved ever since Father Coughlin: a large national audience - though nowhere near the size of his audience at its peak. Her book, Web of Debt, is universally regarded as authoritative by Greenbackers. She does not share his anti-Semitism, but she shares his economic views.

Those of her disciples who read this article and who click through to see my evidence of her errors will have a problem. They can verify for themselves that she does not know what she is talking about in two areas: economic theory and American history. She has used bogus quotes to bolster her weak economic case. She cannot be trusted. Will they back away from her and her book? Will they search for some other book that proves the Greenback case? Or will they simply drop Greenbackism?"

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The propaganda is coming fast and furious from the Euro Bureaucrats with all of the Golden parachute benefits on our backs!


Published on Nov 28, 2012 Tax the rich: An animated fairy tale, is narrated by Ed Asner, with animation by Mike Konopacki. Written and directed by Fred Glass for the California Federation of Teachers. An 8 minute video about how we arrived at this moment of poorly funded public services and widening economic inequality. Things go downhill in a happy and prosperous land after the rich decide they don't want to pay taxes anymore. They tell the people that there is no alternative, but the people aren't so sure. This land bears a startling resemblance to our land.

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DB: "After chaos ... order. We are not yet in the "chaos" phase but we are getting there."

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Indeed, they're pretty busy these days ...


"Shocking Next-Gen Law Enforcement Handcuff System Revealed"

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"Amsterdam to create 'scum villages'

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"Islamist vs. Secularists: The Post-Revolution Struggle for the Arab Soul"

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When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

Has the time come ... . again?

Don't Kill Grandma - Obamacare Video

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