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Wednesday, September 28, 2011 – by Staff Report

Enabling Euro-Elite Fears Downturn

Recession pre-baked as Eurozone dithers ... There's been regrettably little optimism on display among world leaders over the past week, only a feeling of growing alarm. But equally regrettably, it is with good reason. Among bankers and policymakers in Washington for the annual meeting of the International Monetary Fund, the mood was one of unrelenting gloom. Many thought both Europe and the US already effectively back in recession. – UK Telegraph

Dominant Social Theme: Everything was going so well and now gloom is spreading across Europe. What will happen to the recovery if people don't stay positive?

Free-Market Analysis: We've been tracking the growing depression for years now and we've been surprised at the kind of lid the mainstream media can keep on what's going wrong. It really is ridiculous, but the business press takes it lead from statistical reporting issued by Western governments. If the US government says that indicators show the economy is out of recession then it is – even if millions remain out of work.

What this means essentially is that government reporting simply can't be trusted and mainstream media reporting the government line loses credibility whenever they make statements pertaining to the economy that are evidently and obviously untrue.

What is true is that the West's economy is not creating jobs because the dollar-reserve system is finished – a victim of overprinting and the eventual severing of the real economy from credible price information. So many large corporations and financial firms have been bailed out in the West that it is impossible to tell what is a going business and what is a bankrupt one.

Additionally, the same thing is happening in China, which is in an even worse state from what we can tell. Many of its largest corporations are merely fronts for the Chinese Communist Party, so who knows what's viable in such an economy and what's not.

Still, for years – even after the economic crash of 2008 – Western governments have insisted that the West's economic model is still fine, functional and ongoing. Of course it's not but until recently the party line was remarkably resonant and resilient.

But not anymore. There's real concern finally in both the US and Europe over the way the West's and the world's economy is unraveling. The UK Telegraph article excerpted makes mention not just of Western gloom but also of "concern over the state of until now booming Asian economies."

What's the concern for? Well ... "China is slowing fast, and at least two of Asia's tiger economies are heading into technical recession, something that hasn't happened since the emerging markets crisis nearly 15 years ago. On the basis that the mood among bankers and policymakers is a generally quite poor guide to what's really going on, it would be nice to take a contrary stance and argue that things are not quite as bad as they seem. Unfortunately, it would not be justified."

What's not sunk in yet when it comes to the political class is that the real power in the world – the Anglosphere central banking families – likely expect and perhaps even welcome the onrushing Depression because it may provide a pretext to move more quickly and emphatically toward one-world government.

It will be the politicians and military and business classes that may take the brunt of Middle Class rage if things turn really ugly. Perhaps that is only now dawning on those who have served their London City masters. The sword cuts two ways.


Republicans Desperate to Beat Ron Paul

Barbara Bush phones Chris Christie's wife to beg him to run for White House ... Wife of former President George H. W. Bush tells Mary Christie that her family would be just fine in the White House. As speculation brews about a possible Chris Christie bid for the White House, several big names are joining a chorus to persuade him. Among them is former First Lady Barbara Bush, who recently phoned the New Jersey governor's wife Mary to convince her that the Christie family would be just fine in the White House despite the intense attention, a source told the New York Post. – UK Daily Mail

Dominant Social Theme: We really need someone practical who can beat Barack Obama and boost the military-industrial complex at the same time. No reason to pick on the Pentagon after all ...

Free-Market Analysis: It's getting ugly out there. We've advanced the theory that the Anglosphere power elite will finally just give up and anoint libertarian Congressman Ron Paul as the standard-bearer of the Republican party. But that doesn't seem to be happening yet.

Instead, pure panic seems to be setting in. Ron Paul evidently and obviously is running a close second to Mr. "Middle of the Road" Mitt Romney and some polls seem to show that he would actually beat President Barack Obama in a head-to-head election.

This is no comfort at all to establishment Republicans who like to talk about cutting spending and reducing the size of government but do neither when they are in power. Apparently, Republican honchos believe that Ron Paul actually would try to trim the US behemoth. He wouldn't just be talk. There would be some action as well.

And so the leadership is looking high and low for someone – anyone – to confront the "libertarian nightmare" that is Ron Paul. We wrote just yesterday about how Chris Christie is coming under significant pressure to run for president because unlike Rick Perry – who has virtually talked himself out of his front-running position and perhaps the election entirely – Christie comes off as a sincere small-government type.

You can't just assume sincerity as Perry tried to do. It has to be earned, and Chris Christie has earned some of it with his confrontational budget cutting in the state of New Jersey. And this makes him a rare and sought-after commodity.

And thus the Republican leadership is rolling out its biggest guns, including former first First Lady Barbara Bush who recently phoned Chris Christie's wife Mary to urge her to support her husband in making the leap into the race. Apparently, Henry Kissinger has weighed in as well.

This is the upper crust of the US elite talking – the enablers of the impossibly powerful central banking families. The establishment seems to be in a tizzy. Either the idea is that Obama is now unelectable (or a lame duck if he IS elected) or the top people really ARE afraid of Ron Paul and what his election would mean to their one-world plans, additional wars, etc.

Either that or the apparent panic is all phony and a trick to set Ron Paul up as the eventual winner of the Republican nomination. As it stands now, he is positioned to move into first place. If Christie declines to run Ron Paul could certainly be the nominee if his numbers hold up. Who's to stop him, Sarah Palin?


Beware the Cantaloupe That Kills

Cantaloupe outbreak is deadliest in a decade ... Health officials say as many as 16 people have died from possible listeria illnesses traced to Colorado cantaloupes, the deadliest food outbreak in more than a decade. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday that 72 illnesses, including 13 deaths, are linked to the tainted fruit. State and local officials say they are investigating three additional deaths that may be connected. – AP

Dominant Social Theme: Killer cantaloupes are on the loose. You could die just from looking at one. Nothing is safe in this world. Thank goodness for the US Centers for Disease Control.

Free-Market Analysis: Well, here we have further terror. We remember Mad Cow disease and much terror being induced throughout the Western world over tainted meat. But it never occurred to us that cantaloupe kills, as well.

Be scared. Very scared. "The death toll released by the CDC Tuesday -- including newly confirmed deaths in Kansas, Missouri, Nebraska and Texas -- surpassed the number of deaths linked to an outbreak of salmonella in peanuts almost three years ago. Nine people died in that outbreak. The CDC said Tuesday that they have confirmed two deaths in Texas and one death each in in Kansas, Missouri and Nebraska."

Now when we speak of "deaths" we speak of people – and each person who dies is an individual and unique tragedy. But still we resent the alarmist nature of the way this outbreak is being covered. You have to read down in the article to find out what is causing the "cantaloupe deaths" – and then you find out it is something called "listeria."

"Listeria generally only sickens the elderly, pregnant women and others with compromised immune systems," we learn. "The CDC said the median age of those sickened is 78."

OK, again, any death is a sad one for the loved ones close to the victim. But the people being affected by this "deadly" outbreak are nearly 80 years old and their immune systems are not functioning well enough to ward off whatever listeria does to generate mortality.

Naturally, cantaloupes have been recalled, even though listeria only kills the elderly who are apparently already in bad health. "The outbreak has been traced to Jensen Farms in Holly, Colo., which recalled the tainted cantaloupes earlier this month. The Food and Drug Administration said state health officials had found listeria in cantaloupes taken from grocery stores in the state and from a victim's home that were grown at Jensen Farms."

Why couldn't the CDC and the FDA simply have alerted elderly people not to eat cantaloupes? Instead, articles have been issued nationally on the subject and hysteria has been whipped up for the usual reasons. We're supposed to think the CDC and the FDA are "on the case" and doing their jobs protecting US citizens against all manner of deadly diseases.

In fact, all they're likely to do in this case is make the lives of those who grow cantaloupes miserable while putting some farmers out of business. There is a better way to handle these sorts of occurrences than via hysterical recalls. But we'll never know so long as the CDC and the FDA are "on the job."




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  Posted by taxesbyanyothername on 09/29/11 07:26 PM

Listeria is what they are blaming raw milk deaths on, all of two or maybe three last year. Almost anything you can think of is a greater danger than this.

  Posted by John Danforth on 09/28/11 08:47 PM

Posted by clark on 09/28/11 02:46 PM
John Danforth wrote, "But it can just as easily be a mild virus making the rounds."

At first I thought it could have been just a mild virus, but not after a day or so into it. It was unlike any virus or food poisoning I've ever had. Just too much of a coincidence.
I totally understand how it could kill someone.

BTW, I'll still eat cantaloupes and Villisack's recent comment about how everyone's taste buds will have to adjust and we will just have to eat what "they" say is ok to eat is just as ridiculous and totalitarian sounding now as it was then.

To me, this is just one more example of how the goberment "safeguards" have failed and are not worth much, if anything.

I'd have much more confidence in some type of voluntary private company system of checking food, sort of like how I check my favorite computer website for reviews before I buy a computer or component.

Also, I wouldn't be so hard on DB for any perceived rough edge about old People kicking the bucket, many of the old People I've encountered have what some would call a hard (realistic) outlook on things, much.

~ my 2 copper Cents.

Glad you're feeling better. Great example like the feedback on Newegg. I hope I wasn't hard on DB, sure wasn't intended that way. Why, some of my best friends are elves!

One thing to keep in mind is the possibility that it wasn't cantaloupes at all. Remember the last scare, they chased all over creation blaming one thing after another. I don't remember if they ever found out what it was in the end or not.

  Posted by John Danforth on 09/28/11 08:41 PM

Posted by Molly56 on 09/28/11 04:00 PM
I'm glad I don't have to be the copy editor on these articles... in paragraph one it claims a mortality rate of "approximately 30%, then in final paragraph that "It has a high mortality rate of 16%". Or maybe that's in the 90% of the elderly hospitalized? No, that doesn't add up either...

MSN production is so crappy these days that this sort of thing isn't at all uncommon. I see articles that completely negate by 180 degrees what is claimed in the headlines--no wonder we stop paying attention...

I was quoting the Wiki article on the bug, which copies various sources (I know, not definitive).

The way medical news is reported these days, you have to be a paranoid statistician to make any sense out of any of it. And then you still have to be on guard for when they throw out data that discounts their theories, just to keep the government teat flowing. Or they leave out information that would put it into context (like when a difference of .001 and .0015 is reported as a 'increasing the chances of getting cancer by 50%'). A healthy dose of distrust, along with an eye toward how badly local reporters add their own layers of deep misunderstanding to any story are well advised.

There are lots more dangerous bugs than this one out there. There's not much anyone can do but take the usual precautions -- wash your hands and hope for the best if you eat at a restaurant.

  Posted by RR on 09/28/11 05:54 PM

When were the cantaloupes infected ? Was it in the farm, warehouse, store or home refrigerator ? Who did it? Did the terrorists inject them with Listeria? Enjoy the cantaloupe , don't swallow the infected, rotten, mainstream news. Wash it clean.

  Posted by Molly56 on 09/28/11 04:00 PM

Posted by John Danforth on 09/28/11 09:20 AM
"Listeria monocytogenes is ubiquitous in the environment."

But if you get too large a dose, it can make you pretty sick.

"Overall mortality rate is 20-30%; of all pregnancy-related cases, 22% resulted in fetal loss or neonatal death, but mothers usually survive."

Guess how you find out if your immune system is compromised?

An effective warning is better than a heavy-handed recall. But it would likely have the same effect. If the fruit came from my farm, I would want to track it all down and take it off the market. I wouldn't need a government agency to order me to do that. Nobody wants to be responsible for killing Grandma!

If this is the deadliest outbreak of food-borne contamination in a decade, our food supply is pretty safe, considering.

I'm glad I don't have to be the copy editor on these articles... in paragraph one it claims a mortality rate of "approximately 30%, then in final paragraph that "It has a high mortality rate of 16%". Or maybe that's in the 90% of the elderly hospitalized? No, that doesn't add up either...

MSN production is so crappy these days that this sort of thing isn't at all uncommon. I see articles that completely negate by 180 degrees what is claimed in the headlines--no wonder we stop paying attention...

  Posted by clark on 09/28/11 02:46 PM

John Danforth wrote, "But it can just as easily be a mild virus making the rounds."

At first I thought it could have been just a mild virus, but not after a day or so into it. It was unlike any virus or food poisoning I've ever had. Just too much of a coincidence.
I totally understand how it could kill someone.

BTW, I'll still eat cantaloupes and Villisack's recent comment about how everyone's taste buds will have to adjust and we will just have to eat what "they" say is ok to eat is just as ridiculous and totalitarian sounding now as it was then.

To me, this is just one more example of how the goberment "safeguards" have failed and are not worth much, if anything.

I'd have much more confidence in some type of voluntary private company system of checking food, sort of like how I check my favorite computer website for reviews before I buy a computer or component.

Also, I wouldn't be so hard on DB for any perceived rough edge about old People kicking the bucket, many of the old People I've encountered have what some would call a hard (realistic) outlook on things, much.

~ my 2 copper Cents.

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  Posted by Sammy on 09/28/11 02:18 PM

Chris Christie campaigned on more parental involvement in vaccine decisions. The first thing he did when elected was appoint a former pharmaceutical exec as his chief of staff.

To date, despite the please from hundreds of parents he has done nothing to reverse the draconian mandatory flu vaccine requirement for preschoolers. Those looking for a liberty candidate who will fight for the rights of individuals vs. big connected businesses do not have a friend in Christie.

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  Posted by John Danforth on 09/28/11 01:38 PM

Posted by richo270 on 09/28/11 11:36 AM
Agree with jkluttz,

We will have a complete economic meltdown sometime within the next administration. At this point it is baked into the cake, and Ron Paul could not prevent it no mater what he did. There is just too much debt.

Better to hold our nose, support Obama for one more term so that the liberal nonsense gets the blame it so richly deserves.

Then in 1016, Ron Paul can throw his support to Christe, and we can reorganize our money on sound principles.

Let's see if he gets invited to the Bilderberg.

  Posted by Molly56 on 09/28/11 11:42 AM

Posted by jkluttz on 09/28/11 09:05 AM
"Either that or the apparent panic is all phony and a trick to set Ron Paul up as the eventual winner of the Republican nomination."

A Ron Paul presidency combined with no support from congress or the federal bureaucracy, along with the developing greater depression, would firmly place the blame for their distress on free markets and free people in voters' minds. At which point they will gladly run into the arms of the NWO.

The question is how the elite can get the military industrial complex to go along with such a program. Mark me down as skeptical.

I think the PE will just keep shopping until they find someone who will serve their purposes; I'm sure what they are really looking for is someone who is controlable (i.e. blackmailable) and it's just getting harder and harder for them to find someone meeting this requirement whose past isn't too easily "Googlable"...

Surely they haven't given up on Perry? That would be great but am afraid to hope.

  Posted by richo270 on 09/28/11 11:36 AM

Agree with jkluttz,

We will have a complete economic meltdown sometime within the next administration. At this point it is baked into the cake, and Ron Paul could not prevent it no mater what he did. There is just too much debt.

Better to hold our nose, support Obama for one more term so that the liberal nonsense gets the blame it so richly deserves.

Then in 1016, Ron Paul can throw his support to Christe, and we can reorganize our money on sound principles.

  Posted by Frank on 09/28/11 10:55 AM

"We've advanced the theory that the Anglosphere power elite will finally just give up and anoint libertarian Congressman Ron Paul as the standard-bearer of the Republican party." - DB

With Ron Paul focused on educating the masses about sound money and the evils of central banking, the Anglosphere power elite will want anyone besides Ron Paul. The latest challenge to establishment Romney now seems to be Herman Cain, former deputy chairman (1992-94) and chairman (1995-96) of the board of directors to the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. Cain is still very proud of his work done there (I've heard him defend his work done there). He would be a much better alternate candidate for the Power Elite. I find it likely that the world's financial system will likely implode soon no matter who is the next POTUS. But the Power Elite want to avoid any trend towards sound money or away from central banking.

I'm also not sure just how much Herman Cain is aware of what is really going on at the top of the Federal Reserve.

  Posted by Jeanna on 09/28/11 10:43 AM

Gov. Christie should just tell the Republican Party Leadership that he is going to vote for Ron Paul.

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  Posted by oldman67 on 09/28/11 10:07 AM

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  Posted by IndianaJohn on 09/28/11 09:50 AM

Re: the cantaloupes

DB, thanks for putting some light on the 'fear your food and hate the farmer monster'.

  Posted by John Danforth on 09/28/11 09:33 AM

Posted by clark on 09/28/11 05:14 AM
"Listeria generally only sickens the elderly, pregnant women and others with compromised immune systems,"

Keyword, generally.

I'm in none of those categories, "Something" kidney punched me hard these last few days. At first I thought it was something I ate, then an odd type of flu, but now I have a suspect. I Did eat a lot of cantaloupe.

Guess I'm lucky?

My body warded it off (mostly, almost better) but wow did it hurt.

It's impossible to tell what did it. Usually it comes from your own refrigerator or any restaurant you eat at. But it can just as easily be a mild virus making the rounds. There's always a wave in the fall when school starts, everybody gets exposed to everything everyone else has. Bad for people who would rather avoid it, but probably better for the race overall.

Nobody ever bothers to track down a bug until people start showing up in hospitals with it, or worse, start dying from it.

Imagine trying to live life without refrigeration! (That's one reason I oppose the idiots who are always trying to cut off our cheap electricity.)

  Posted by John Danforth on 09/28/11 09:26 AM

Posted by jkluttz on 09/28/11 09:05 AM
"Either that or the apparent panic is all phony and a trick to set Ron Paul up as the eventual winner of the Republican nomination."

A Ron Paul presidency combined with no support from congress or the federal bureaucracy, along with the developing greater depression, would firmly place the blame for their distress on free markets and free people in voters' minds. At which point they will gladly run into the arms of the NWO.

The question is how the elite can get the military industrial complex to go along with such a program. Mark me down as skeptical.

Pendulums swing. Recall the way things were going before Reagan and Thatcher. It's pretty unavoidable to conclude that the momentum of rushing towards paper-money statism is pretty well spent. Perhaps the elite think they can get the pendulum swinging the other way, and that they can keep things contained. You know, like Lucy talking Charlie Brown into trying to kick the football again. They can always yank the ball away at the last second, just like every other time.

  Posted by John Danforth on 09/28/11 09:20 AM

"Listeria monocytogenes is ubiquitous in the environment."

But if you get too large a dose, it can make you pretty sick.

"Overall mortality rate is 20-30%; of all pregnancy-related cases, 22% resulted in fetal loss or neonatal death, but mothers usually survive."

Guess how you find out if your immune system is compromised?

An effective warning is better than a heavy-handed recall. But it would likely have the same effect. If the fruit came from my farm, I would want to track it all down and take it off the market. I wouldn't need a government agency to order me to do that. Nobody wants to be responsible for killing Grandma!

If this is the deadliest outbreak of food-borne contamination in a decade, our food supply is pretty safe, considering.

  Posted by jkluttz on 09/28/11 09:05 AM

"Either that or the apparent panic is all phony and a trick to set Ron Paul up as the eventual winner of the Republican nomination."

A Ron Paul presidency combined with no support from congress or the federal bureaucracy, along with the developing greater depression, would firmly place the blame for their distress on free markets and free people in voters' minds. At which point they will gladly run into the arms of the NWO.

The question is how the elite can get the military industrial complex to go along with such a program. Mark me down as skeptical.

  Posted by Bluebird on 09/28/11 08:47 AM

Re: the cantaloupes.

My thoughts ran along the same line when I saw the headlines about it being the "deadliest food outbreak in more than a decade". I thought Good grief!! Of course, now cantaloupes will lie languishing on the shelves, no matter where they came from, "just to be sure they won't kill us". This will drive the prices (which are already too high) up to cover the losses. Plus it makes the CDC and FDA look like heroes for saving us from the killer cantaloupes. And may even put the farmer out of business. Insanity.

Now I am sure that the staff did not mean that it was unimportant that the elderly were the ones dying because they would pass on soon anyway, but the phrase in your article "even though listeria only kills the elderly who are apparently already in bad health" may make it look like this is what you are saying. Also, "Why couldn't the CDC and FDA simply alerted elderly people not to eat cantaloupes" is not ideal. Elderly do not always hear this news and even if they did, it may not register because they often have decreased mental alertness. I think it would have been better to not focus on "the elderly" part, but just that it was fear promoting. I am sorry, but my mind keeps reliving my own two dear parents which I cared for for so long. They LOVED cantaloupe and if I told them to not eat it, they would have looked at me with eyes which lacked understanding. I would have had to remove it from the home, or in my case, since I shopped, not bought it. I am thankful for every last minute I got to enjoy them before they passed.

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