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Rothschild Banker Calls for End of Euro
Why the euro bailout is the biggest Ponzi scheme in history ... By Norman Lamont (left) ... The recent decision by the Bank of England to pump another £75billion into the economy shows that Britain, far from recovering, remains on the edge of another dip. But what happens to the British and world economy is, to a large extent, out of our hands. The greatest threat to our economic future is what is happening in the eurozone. The scale of the euro crisis has made one thing abundantly plain: Europe, Britain and the rest of the world would be better off if the euro had never happened. It would be preferable if it were now dismantled in an orderly manner. – Daily Mail/Norman Lamont
Dominant Social Theme: No matter what, the euro and the EU will survive! It's the most important thing in the history of humankind. If the euro unravels, humanity will face endless horror and war. Plus Brussels will slip back into obscurity.
Free-Market Analysis: Well, what does this mean? One could speculate that the Rothschilds – maybe the richest and most powerful family in the world – have decided to wind down the EU experiment. One would like to think so anyway ...
We believe the Rothschilds are perhaps the chief central banking family in the world, with tremendous, almost unfathomable clout. In the mainstream press, however, it must be noted that the Rothschilds are portrayed as family whose great wealth has been dissipated and that they have no more power than numerous mid-level banking dynasties. Yet in our view, based on an overall pattern of financial activities past and present, the Rothschilds have enormous power, far more than the mainstream press ordinarily acknowledges, probably for obvious reasons.
Such "central banking families" (though chiefly the Rothschilds) are likely behind the EU, not the Germans or "socialists" or any other group ordinarily mentioned. The great Anglosphere banking families and their enablers have spent a lot of time trying to combine nations into larger regions from what we can tell, and Europe was to be their biggest success. The idea was that these regions would serve as stepping-stones for global government.
In order to signal a change in policy, Money Power uses a variety of resources. It is surely necessary to make a signal to the public if one wants to, say, detach from the euro, and at least two big signals seem to have appeared recently, among a number of smaller ones. Such analysis is speculative of course, but Lamont's article is a powerful one and it could have a meaning beyond one man's personal opinion.
Another such blunt article recently appeared in Germany's Der Spiegel magazine, a very negative assessment of the euro; now Norman Lamont, a former Rothschild banker, has elaborated on the euro's failure in the UK Daily Mail. It is true that Lamont has a reputation as a Eurosceptic, but the article joins a number of negative articles that have appeared in the Anglosphere mainstream press of late. And Lamont's stands out because of its bluntness. At the very least, it is a sign of the times.
Who is he, exactly? Wikipedia gives his title as Baron Lamont of Lerwick and reminds us that he is "best-known for his period serving as Chancellor of the Exchequer, from 1990 until 1993." Lamont was chancellor under John Major; in fact, he had been a key supporter of Major after Margaret Thatcher lost favor and ultimately power because of her opposition to the EU-centric Maastricht Treaty. Before entering Parliament he worked for investment bank N M Rothschild & Sons and was director of Rothschild Asset Management. Here's some more from the article:
Eurozone leaders are already drawing up plans to get round their national parliaments to increase funding [to alleviate the sovereign crisis] if necessary Yet leaders of eurozone countries appear determined to keep the show on the road, however much voters and their parliaments object to the project. Never mind that the €440 billion fund is already considered too little too late — or that the European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso resorted yesterday to demanding Britain helps bail out Greece even though we're not a member of the eurozone ...
Euroscepticism is on the rise everywhere in Europe. European politicians know well that fiscal and political union of eurozone countries, with an economic policy determined by Germany, is not going to be acceptable to the eurozone's voters. Citizens do not want decisions on taxes and spending determined outside their own nation. Because of mounting opposition to the rescue plan, Mrs Merkel's policy at each stage has been to do the minimum necessary to keep the currency afloat. But this has not restored confidence, and the Americans have become increasingly alarmed at the threat the euro poses to the world. There are no easy answers.
The uncomfortable truth is that, instead of rescuing it, it would probably have been better if Greece had been allowed to default. That would have hurt French banks holding Greek bonds. But the problem would have been containable and it would have been far better to have got the crisis over with, than to allow it to fester while writing large cheques that are going to create as many problems as they solve. There comes a point where the political costs of rescuing the euro are too high. As Winston Churchill once observed, if we do not face reality, reality will face us. It would be better to recognise that the euro experiment has failed.
Strong stuff from an insider's insider. Does it indicate a shift at the very top? We've tracked the unraveling of numerous elite dominant social themes in the past few years, always pointing out that the growing Internet Reformation would make it difficult for the power elite to pursue their globalist ambitions. We've written on many occasions that we believe the elites eventually may be forced to "take a step back" as they evidently did after the advent of the Gutenberg Press.
The Gutenberg Press and the information it spread prepared the ground for the Protestant Reformation and the schism of the Roman Catholic Church. In the process, the Western world experienced both the Renaissance and the Reformation, events that reignited science and resulted eventually in much freer markets for a rising merchant class and the populating of the New World.
The alternative media is often gloomy about the expanding progress of the new world order, but we've always believed it would be a very difficult thing to implement. Money Power may seek global governance, but it's a massive undertaking and in the era of the Internet it grows harder every day.
The elites have tended to try to shove reluctant middle classes toward one-world government via dominant social themes, fear-based promotions that frighten people into giving up power and wealth to globalist solutions. But in the 21st century these promotions have begun to sputter and fail, depriving the Anglosphere familial elites and their enablers useful tools.
Afghanistan was a war that should have been won, or so the elites apparently thought, but enthusiasm for its prosecution has long since waned. It looks like a loss now. Global warming has been rebutted so many times by the alternative media that is now looked upon with skepticism in the mainstream media as well. Even central banking itself – the ability to print money from nothing – once the elite's "sacred cow" and perhaps its most important meme, has come under sustained attack.
These fear-based promotions, along with others, are in trouble. And now it looks as if the grand dream of the EU and a continent-wide currency may be foundering as well, in the long-term if not the short. Now Lamont signals what is increasingly obvious: That the EU, or at least the euro, is a failing or failed experiment.
If the Anglosphere is indeed surrendering its dream of a steppingstone to world government via the EU, this would be huge news and further affirmation of the paradigm we promote concerning the Internet Reformation, and its impact.
Of course, the internationalist's dream dies hard. Alternative scenarios regarding global consolidation seem increasingly available, as we have pointed out recently. One fallback is probably to let the EU fall into chaos along with America and China, and then propose some sort of world government as a solution. (But we don't think this was the primary plan.) Another set of plans may have to do with memes we believe we have detected regarding "transparency" and now, via Occupy Wall Street, "direct democracy."
Conclusion: These portmanteau dominant social themes may be the next mechanisms to promote world government. Money Power never gives up after all. But if the EU and/or the euro are somehow struck down, we would count it as a blow to the Conspiracy. Time will tell.
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Posted by Bobby7 on 11/30/11 04:31 PM
YO expatriot,
You are as intelligent & as knowledgeable as that Clown in the White House.
Don't pretend that you know anything about Jesus of Nazareth or His Gospel!
You suffer from Verbal Diarrhea & you stink!
If you want to get a lesson about running a country then read Genesis 47.
In a nutshell! In the Good Times, you save! So that when the Bad Times come, you will have something to live on. America & the world were greedy & selfish & now the "Lean Cow Years" are here.
The answer? GET REAL!
BACK TO BASICS!
LAW & ORDER!
ALL ROBBERS & CONVICTS TO DO TIME!
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Posted by expatriot on 11/26/11 09:00 PM
Sir, Bowled over by these global NWO tides obviously rolling in (same milk 2 years ago was 69 centimes is now 1€15 and meat! Good god... food is becoming a luxury item!)... as an american artist in living in Paris since 1983, indeed the transition in to the Euro from French Francs (FF) turned an almost stable FF into an obviously inflationary upswing... from the price of a cup of coffee to property prices... these commodities do not change in value or go up in price, the currencies used to pay for them go down in value.
Yes, I was one of the few pro Ron Paul americans who was active here with a group of French RP activists... before most Americans even knew who he was.
However first, although it seems Ron Paul is about the only "hope" on (near) the visible stage... of course, what else is there out there? La Rouche?! Very interesting stuff, but obvious at all either ! Might be interesting to either pool their ideas or see and debate between them!
A preceeding rather interestingly biblical bound response to this article reminds me that that indeed, without walking Jesus across our swimming pools, indeed in light of historic finance he is attributed a far greater miracle (in my book as other gods or myths of other cultures walked on water including Quetzalcoatl) : He became violent and threw the money lenders out of the temple. God(s) or no god(s)... this is an action that clearly sets this person, myth, or son of god, or king, not only apart... but places him in the vanguard of understanding humanity... both it's problems and solutions.
Money lending creates debt. Debt is obligation. Obligation is cause for slavery. The rift thus between the Jews. This "Jewish king" (who was not a Christian himself, but was in fact holding up a version of that old religion : he didn't invent "the messiah" part either, but claimed it) is attributed to whether he was "the Messiah" or not. This is hog wash.
The realistic rift was right there. The Jewish power brokers (not the Jewish peoples nor faith) whose interests were 'interest', not spiritual, had power (as this class of people do today) and certainly became furious. Thus split with this "idiot". Of course, the memory of whoever that man was or did, was preserved by religious rabbis, at least until it turned in to a growing cult (gnostics) who believed their body was but a glove to their spirit. Thus death could not destroy their most highest selves (which is spirit or soul).
This is a rather big problem for power brokers. Power works though fear and weakness. Until Constantine came along to figure out after 300 years that these "nuts" could not be scared into submission. He thus used subversion (which is what, in fact, the CIA's & MI6's, KGB & Mossad's main business consists of : subversion), thus not only legalised their cult, but gave it a facelift by "converting" thus making it "the legal religion" and supplying them with both buildings and most important... a controlling administration. As power goes, nothing is quite as convincing as a popular god.
People will die for that, but this is not to give people the power of their own spirits as Jesus suggested by saying "you can move mountains... " this is to kneel down and do rituals and worship crosses or stars of David and so on. Symbols... the rather very thing forbidden by the ancient faith of Jesus : false idols... religions may be founded by spiritual beings... but they then fall into the hands of power systems... the Vatican is a super rich country (and it is said in some corners Rothschilds do their banking) with stock piles of guess what : Gold. Zionism has followed suit. it is not the Jewish religion (but rather a politic put in to place by the very money lenders), thus a country.
A geopolitical state. The Jewish people are as duped by this as the American people are duped by the Fed. Peoples are peoples everywhere... human beings. Islam... similar story (variation being that Mohamet himself made this transition from true spiritualist to a geopolitical warlord when he left Mecca for Medina (or he was replaced by an impostor, who knows?). Yet another geopolitical expansionist politic with it's people on it's knees very much hoping for some sort of spiritual grace (and I am sure, or at least hope, many find this in that faith)...
I have nothing against any of these people... although suspect "we" as humanity are being duped by a power elite... who puts polished puppets on TV and calls them our leaders... so that when the screw up... they can be replaced... or when we people smell a rat... we kill the wrong rat... the rat's Jerry Mahoney... with a business of making us zenophobically hate one another egoistically thinking our "god" is the right one... thus the other guy... hey let's have a war!
Who wins? Never the people of either side... but the money lenders and the war machine makers do rather well... nothing like a good war to make sure a country borrow everything it needs to win...
Money lenders are very much back in the temple (and have been there ever since they did away with the guy who threw them out) and no, not only the most successful ones of "the red seal" : every race, religion, creed and color is guilty of this to some extent). Powerful rich countries are in debt organised by this world temple bank. This is the problem. It is not even a conspiracy, but business as usual. It adapts generation after generation to get away with every crime in the book. Examine genocide history produces.
From feeding early christians to the lions... through witch hunt inquisitions which murdered freely thoughout Europe in the name of "god" ? The slaughter of indigenous peoples of America & Australia. Opium wars in China, a million Armenians, 6 million Jews (the only really well publicized genocide with hundreds of Hollywood movies & the first industrialized version as indeed factories were built to carry it off), Stalin & Lennon killiing 50 million Orthodox Christians during the same time... and yet less mentioned Mao's culture revolution where he starved to death 200 million human beings (the 20th century winner!)... and by the way about 2 million people starved to death in the good old US of A during the Depression... a well covered up fact... . although the exact numbers are not known... for this... or any of the above really.
The devil comes in sheep's clothing... It is said.
Ron Paul seems to be the right path, and I hope so. However, there is a dangerous flaw with big Ron. Wrote his web site but never received an answer. Yes : close the Fed! Super! What Andrew Jackson called "vipers". They tried to kill him. He beat the British army & got them out. They got back in. Lincoln threw them out again. They shot him (they did him a big favor, his days were numbered as he suffered a rare degenerative disease and was in the late stages of this). JFK suggested we stay out of Vietnam & to shut down the Fed... Magic bullet! Since then? Pure CFR puppets right up though Obama. Left right left right... same deal.
Money lenders have been very successful in accumulating everything of value ; particularly gold (silver too)... so if we close the front door of the Fed and change to a gold standard as Ron suggests? These same robber baron bankers and their sponsoring royals & religions have all the gold. Thus a gold standard leaves wide open the back door!!
How much gold do most people have? Not much! Get it? The super rich robber barons have most of the gold! A gold standard keeps them in full control.
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Posted by expatriot on 11/26/11 08:23 PM
Lincoln did the smart thing... he had the US government print it's own money.
But indeed... the way to do this now would NOT be to close the Fed... but to SEIZE the Fed... freeze and take over it's assets by the American Government... .
The Fed is an illegal operation... not only does it need be audited... WE NEED TO TAKE IT BACK & MAKE IT INTO WHAT IT PRETENDS TO BE... not close it down : but KEEP IT... Simply transfer it to the American people and make it transparent... Ron is not suggesting this. Either because he knows that if he did "they"' would shoot him... or because he is not very clever (seems not the case) or that he is not what he seems. I do not know the answer to this... only the question... and how important the answer must be.
Fact is, most people think the Fed is American... that's why they have a hard time with any theory suggesting 9/11 was an inside job... if it was (as it could well be : again something Ron Paul has never admitted)... it is because the inside is out! That is to say... the heart of the system is it's money... so if that is owned and controlled by say... the Vatican, or the Queen, or the Rothschilds & Rockefellers (David, head of the CFR & founding member of the Trilateral Commission, in his book admits with pride that he is part of a world Cabal seeking world control : these things aren't even secrets!)
It's owners are crooks, thieves, liars and cheats : in short it is an unlawful unconstitiutional system ... we do not even know who they are... but... we should find out! And then... maybe we could go to war on the World Bank if anybody still wants to wage war... not on countries full of women, children and people.
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Posted by Saintpaulia on 11/20/11 07:07 PM
As long as God is an anarchist I am with Him.
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Posted by Saintpaulia on 11/20/11 07:04 PM
'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'?
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Posted by Saintpaulia on 11/20/11 06:46 PM
"A thousand years of Dark Ages are ahead of us. Just... "
Well at least dimmer. I believe the entire Western world has bought into the compact fluorescent bulbs. If you've already tried them in your home you know what I mean!
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Posted by LloydMiller on 11/19/11 11:46 PM
Le Cercle and the struggle for the European continent Click to view link
Lord Lamont was a long-time EU "skeptic". . . OPPONENT and member of Le Cercle, an anti-Rockefeller ruling class faction!
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Posted by LloydMiller on 11/19/11 11:42 PM
re: Lamont from an article on Le Cercle:
Very influential British politician who was the campaign manager for John Major. Worked at Rothschilds from 1968 to 1979. Became an important politician and leading eurosceptic under Thatcher, who also led the Treaty of Maastricht negotiations for Britain. Handled Russia's negotiations with institutions as the IMF and World Bank on behalf of Gorbachev and Yeltsin. Again director of N.M. Rothschild and Sons Ltd 1993-1995, personally appointed by Sir Evelyn de Rothschild against the advice of the other board members. Appointed chairman of Le Cercle in 1996 after Aitken had to step down. Member of the Privy Council. Director of Scottish Re and many other insurance, banking, and chemical corporations. Advisor to the Monsanto Corporation. Chairman of the obscure Oil Club. Member of the Neoconservative Benador Associates, together with Arnaud de Borchgrave, Alexander Haig, and James Woolsey. Director of General Mediterranean Holding of the controversial former Saddam associate and arms dealer Nadhmi Auchi, who also is a member of Le Cercle. Sought the release of Pinochet. Has visited Bilderberg. As chairman of the British Iranian Chamber of Commerce, he's been promoting increased trade with Iran while the US is about to attack this country for allegedly trying to create nuclear weapons. As head of the Bruges Group he is a leader in the eurosceptic movement in Britain.
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You are implying he is the "loyal opposition?"
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Posted by Bobby7 on 11/18/11 11:19 AM
Hi,
I must help all you GOYIM get to the ROOT-CAUSE of the problem:
OPEN LETTER TO JEWS
Shalom,
One of the most important questions in TORAH is,
"Was Moshe schizophrenic & hearing voices in his head or was YHWH really talking to him?
If Moshe WAS schizophrenic then the whole Chosen People & Promised Land thing is dead in the water & the Arabs have as much right to the land as anyone else and Christian Zionists are proved wrong & America MUST stop supporting Israel.
If YHWH was REALLY talking to Moshe, then He was the FIRST anti-Semite!
Exodus 32:7-10
7 At the same time, the LORD said to Moses,
'Go down from this mountain. Your people, the people you brought out of the land of Egypt, have committed a terrible sin. 8 They have very quickly turned away from what I commanded them to do. They made a calf from melted gold for themselves. They are worshiping that calf (Moloch) and making HUMAN sacrifices to it. The people have said, 'Israel, these are the gods that led you out of Egypt.'
9 The LORD said to Moses, 'I have seen these people, and I know that they are very stubborn. They will always turn against me. 10 So now let me DESTROY THEM in anger. Then I will make a great nation from you.'
The WORLD needs to RETHINK everything concerning ISRAEL, the JEWS & the BANKSTERS!
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Posted by Bobby7 on 11/18/11 11:05 AM
Hi,
I know nothing about finance, but I have a good sense of smell & I smell a rat!
Israel needs billions to update its WMD & its broke! What to do? The Talmud teaches that the Goyim is the Golden Goose that God said Jews can screw! So, screw all the Goyim by creating a financial meltdown & the Jewish bankers can give Israel all the money it needs to nuke Iran, Syria & anyone else in their way of getting GREATER Israel.
Unless you have studied the Babylonian Talmud you will NEVER understand the demonic mindset of Talmudic Jews.
ISRAEL WANTS BABYLON (IRAN)
Babylonian Talmud: Tractate Kethuboth
Folio 111a
Both Rabbah and R. Joseph stated: The fit40 persons of Babylon are received38 by the Land of Israel, and the fit40 ones of other countries are received41 by Babylon. In what respect?42 If it be suggested: In respect of purity of descent,43 surely [it may be objected,] did not the Master say, 'All countries are [like] dough44 towards the Land of Israel,45 and the Land of Israel is [like] dough towards Babylon'?46 - The fact, however, [is that the 'fit'47 are received] in respect of burial.48
Rab Judah said: Whoever lives in Babylon is accounted as though he lived in the Land of Israel; for it is said in Scripture, Ho, Zion, escape, thou that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon.49
Abaye stated: We have a tradition that Babel50 will not witness the sufferings51 [that will precede the coming] of the Messiah.52 He [also] explained it53 to refer54 to Huzal55 in Benjamin which would be named56 the Corner of Safety.57
38. So MS.M. Cur. edd. omit the waw.
39. His death was due to his departure from Pumbeditha.
40. [H], either (a) of pure and legitimate descent or (b) worthy and righteous. V. infra n. 8.
41. This is explained anon.
42. Are the 'fit … received'.
43. Cf. supra note 7 (a), sc. that such persons may marry into any pure families of the Land of Israel and Babylon respectively.
44. Opp. to 'fine flour', sc. a mixed mass the ingredients of which cannot be determined. Metaph. for impurity or illegitimacy of descent.
45. The families of the latter place would not allow, therefore, any person from the former to marry any of their members.
46. Kid. 69b, 71a, which proves that as regards purity of descent Babylon stands higher than the Land of Israel. How then could it be said that only the 'fit persons of Babylon are received by the Land of Israel'? On the causes of the lower standard of genealogical purity in the Land of Israel v. Halevy's suggestion quoted in Kid., Sonc. ed. p. 350, n. 6.
47. Cf. supra note 7 (b).
48. Only the worthy men of Babylon and other countries should be allowed burial in the Land of Israel and Babylon respectively. Unworthy men should not be admitted to the former whose soil was sacred or to the latter which scholars and saints had made their home (cf. supra note 1).
49. Zech. II, 11.
50. [H], usually rendered 'Babylon', but v. infra notes 6 and 7.
51. Or 'travail'.
52. [H]; 'but the more correct reading is [H] (Moore, G.F., Judaism II 361, n. 2). [H] 'frequent in modern Christian books is fictitious' (loc. cit.). The 'sufferings' or 'travail' are more fully described in Sanh. 97b, Sonc. ed. p. 654. These are the 'throes of mother Zion which is in labor to bring forth the Messiah - without metaphor, the Jewish people' (Moore, loc. cit. text).
53. The tradition as to the immunity of Babel.
54. Not, as might be assumed, to the well known Babylon (cf. supra note 2).
55. [H], a village to the north of Jerusalem between Tel Al-Ful and Nob 'the city of the priests'. It was known by many names including that of [H] (v. Horowitz, I.S., Palestine, p. 73. nn 3ff, s.v. [H]). Neubauer, (Geogr. p. 152) describes it as an old fortress in Palestine (v. Jast.). There was also a Huzal in Babylonia between Nehardea and Sura. Cf. Sanh. 19a, Sonc. ed. p. 98, n. 3 and Berliner, Beitr. z. Geogr. p. 32.
56. [H], lit., 'and they would call it'. The pronoun according to Rashi refers to the 'days of the Messiah', but this is difficult.
57. The noun [H] is regarded here as the Hof. of [H] 'to save'.
58. Of Israel.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 07:31 PM
"That's one way of looking at. Another is that the top Anglosphere elites simply withdrew and exercised their power behind the scenes. You really believe the US, Britain and Israel are not THE power? You take people like Gandhi at face value? We did once, but no more."
More than many other countries, America is not a unified entity, but an array of power levers with the 2 power factions (an more) grabbing for the levers. Many policy reversal assumed to be "deceptions" by conspiracy-land are actually rival factions seizing and losing control.
The Rockefeller faction since WWII has had its hands on the "permanent" bureacracies like the State Department, CIA, etc. Judeo-Anglo insurgents like Reagan and Bush "W" are fairly easily pressured back into line. Pretty clear when "W" was put in his place by Daddy Bush and Baker (whose law firm represents the Saudis and Exxon, the Rockefeller flagship). For instance, before many in the public started complaining about NeoCons, Bush had been forced to show them the door.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 07:22 PM
The Rothschilds would have been hung for treason if they had aided the Communists in taking Russia out of WWI.
The Warburgs and Schiffs got away with it (barely) because America was only reluctantly involved in the War at all and only reluctantly pro-British.
Now, of course, there could be a secret conspiracy between the Warburgs and Rothschilds totally opposed to British War Aims, but how likely is that given that the Rothschilds made their mark as servants of the Crown from Napoleon on. . .? If there was, then the ONE BIG CONSPIRACY is proven.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 07:12 PM
Of course, there is my site: Click to view link and the associated Yahoo discussion site. Over the decades, I have brought-up and discussed many dozens of sources.
Dr. Emanuel M. Josephson who wrote during the FDR era thru the very early '60s is a good EXPlICIT source of overview, though as Murray Rothbard noted in his highly guarded recommendation, Josephson was highly partisan and an extreme rather personal hater of FDR and the Rockefellers and, to boot, a crack pot, monetary crank.
Josephsons bibliographies contain many great sources about specifics, however. Ludwell Denny's WE FIGHT FOR OIL is great, showing the Rockefeller / Rothschild-British Empire antagonism over the Rothschild Oil lost to the Soviets, the Middle East, Persia, Mexico and on and on.
Most good sources
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 03:43 PM
"Sorry, we have a hard time with this "schism of the elite" thing."
You are not alone in conspiracy land. There is tremendous psyschological resonance to the UNIFIED, ONE BIG RULING CLASS/CONSPIRACY THEORY! It answers all questions without detailed investigation and relieves the believer from responsibility, choosing sides and/or participation in conflicts: POX ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 03:40 PM
The Rockefellers are a massive center of economic clout and power now allied with not only the Vatican, but the rising power of OPEC, Islam and Saudi Arabia. Hardly comparable to Ghandi whose promotion might have been a clever Imperialist ruse.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 03:36 PM
Pound, of course, spoke some truth, but prefering Fascists and Nazis to AngloAmerican traditional STATE CAPITALISM is a going a tad to far in my book. Let's have some perspective!
The Cliveden Set's plan for Germany was for it to attack Russia, the traditional balance of power game by which Britain maintained ascendancy over continental Europe. The Vatican and Rockefeller had other ideas in their flat-out support for Nazism via I.G. Farben, Standard Oil, etc. . . Their idea was to absorb the British Empire with a new center of mastery.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 03:09 PM
Doubts about Piper? I'm just pointing-out that I'm not the only one who notices the pattern of conflict between the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds. Piper, the last I heard, is a minion of Willis Carto. . .
I could also mention C. B. Baker who wrote Rothschilds Battle Rockefellers back during Watergate, if memory serves. I have plenty of doubts about him.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 03:06 PM
You compare Ghandi to the Rockefellers and their minions. . . what da heck are you talking about?
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No, no. You understand. Gandhi was "assisted" by the same powers he was confronting. They wanted what he was providing ...
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 01:56 PM
Some may recall when Lady Rothschild, a long-time Democrat fund raiser broke with the DEMs when Obama (clearly a Rockefeller stooge as proven by support from David's right-hand man ZBig): Rothschild Dynasty Slams Obama; Calls for Centrist Movement in U.S. By Michael Collins Piper
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Sorry, we have a hard time with this "schism of the elite" thing. We even have some doubts about Piper.
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Posted by LloydMiller on 10/16/11 01:48 PM
To get back to my main point: When a high official of the Rothshild galaxy opposes the EU, we might consider taking them at their word. Certainly, Britain's Empire of the City was not the leader in forming the EU; it was continental factions, the historical enemies of the City and the British Empire.
The formerly world straddling Empire of the City acheived only pyrhric victory in WWII as its Empire fell to the Rockefellers who were league with the Vatican and the Islamic block (yeah, the Fascist/Nazi allies!).
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That's one way of looking at. Another is that the top Anglosphere elites simply withdrew and exercised their power behind the scenes. You really believe the US, Britain and Israel are not THE power? You take people like Gandhi at face value? We did once, but no more.
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