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Communist China or Western Patsy?
China 'won't follow US' on carbon emissions ... China will not allow its carbon dioxide emissions per person to reach levels seen in the US, according to the minister in charge of climate policy. Xie Zhenhua, vice chair of the National Development and Reform Commission, said that to let emissions rise that high would be a "disaster for the world – BBC
Dominant Social Theme: China is a responsible citizen of the world and is proving it even though it is also an enemy of the West. But it is a helpful enemy. Though it is also a Red Menace. But it is "good people." But it is also the biggest danger to the America. But it is helping Europe ... Though it is a communist state ... But it has capitalist tendencies ... But it is about to implode ... But it has done very well ... Because it is Western ... Though it is still totalitarian.
Free-Market Analysis: When it comes to China the Anglosphere power elite has done an unusually bad job. On the one hand, China is to be painted as a great adversary of the West. On the other, it must be seen as participating in the larger set of dominant social themes that the elites want to promote around the world.
Just yesterday, we posted a story "NATO Preps for World War" that positioned China as a military enemy. But we are past the point where we think that modern warfare has much to do with underlying enmity. Modern wars in our view are projects mostly of the Anglosphere elites and are mounted for purposes of control, population reduction and other reasons that do not have much or anything to do with a clash of civilizations.
Despite the overhang of potential military activity, China in its current incarnation seems evidently and obviously a kind of controlled opposition – a convenient grand backdrop on which any one of a number of perceptions may be generated. For now, the ChiCom leaders seem to be working closely to support Western memes. Its leaders have stated their intention to help bail out the EU. And now we see the enthusiastic endorsement of one of the more pernicious theme – global warming and the necessity for carbon sinks.
The current ChiCom society has been built along the lines of modern Western socialism, complete with central banking and mercantilist multinationals. The linkages to the controlling Western elites are likely fairly well hidden and can only be discerned when China suddenly makes strange noises benefiting this or that Western meme or agenda.
Such is the case with this carbon announcement. China therefore endorses another Western falsehood having to do with the causes of global warming – carbon pollution – when there is no evidence that carbon dioxide – one of the most important and life-giving gases in the world has anything to do with global warming (which likely doesn't exist anyway). Here's some more from the article:
A study published over the weekend in the journal Nature Climate Change showed that if global emissions do not peak and begin to fall by 2020, keeping the global average temperature rise since pre-industrial times below 2C will be difficult. Since the UN climate summit in Copenhagen two years ago, the political scene on climate change has shifted markedly, with members of established negotiating blocs reaching out to countries that have not traditionally been allies but which now share common interests.
This is one of the reasons why China and European countries are exploring the potential for collaboration in areas such as novel fuels. Another is that western engineering expertise allied to Chinese manufacturing could result in "green" products at low price. For the UK, part of the idea is to rebuild bridges that were singed, if not burned, after Copenhagen when Ed Miliband – then climate secretary and now leader of the opposition – blamed Chinese negotiators for scuppering the talks.
Mr Xie's visit was facilitated by Global Legislators Organisation for a Balanced Environment (Globe) International, the worldwide association of parliamentarians. Lord (Michael) Jay, Globe's vice president, suggested it was vital to make progress at this year's UN summit in Durban, South Africa. "We hold the planet in trust for future generations," he said. "And that puts a lot of responsibility on our shoulders before and after Durban." And Mr Xie suggested that Europe and China could work together to push things forward. "Let's join hands to push the US to take action," he said.
China is used by the West in numerous useful capacities. One of its biggest roles is to make the West's socialism/mercantilism look good. We are reminded that China's brand is even worse. China is also used occasionally to justify America's growing wars in the Middle East and Africa. The idea is that these are strategic in nature and aimed at combatting any aggressive intentions harbored by Chinese leaders.
China is a useful foil for Anglosphere elites that project anything they want onto its vast backdrop. They apparently support some sort of global governance in line with Anglosphere ambitions. Even if it comes to war, the Chinese elites shall likely cooperate in some fashion, at least to begin with.
Modern wars, the big ones anyway, are mostly aimed at the "little people." And China has plenty of little people. This is something else that the ChiComs and Anglosphere elites share: a yen for population reduction and a likely lack of concern for how it is accomplished. In this way, as well, China supports the Anglosphere and its memes.
Conclusion: War, of course, is the most destructive dominant social theme of all. And one of the most desirable, perhaps, in certain circumstances.
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Posted by Hoss on 10/26/11 10:25 PM
We can solve that by launching a pre-emptive war on their territory.
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Posted by Nightcrawler on 10/26/11 03:20 PM
War could be a win/win for the Chicoms.
Can you imagine the testosterone levels when there are 20 young males to every young lady.
At the same time, riots and demonstrations appear to be rising dramatically in numbers.
War would cull the herd, inculcate patriotism and take the focus off domestic machinations.
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Posted by William3 on 10/26/11 02:41 PM
I've long believed China has been co-opted by the PE. Following elite memes just confirms this. But war is something else.
Keeping China as an adversary keeps the dialectic alive -- force/counter-force/new force. But it's difficult to imagine a scenario where China goes along with a Western plan for a global war.
The politburo in Beijing may only see their demise with such a venture. They have only a fraction of the military power of the West, and it would be difficult to get hundreds of millions of Chinese people energized for ground combat.
But, I've been fooled before.
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Posted by boysie on 10/26/11 11:24 AM
Hello
You remember Charles Darwin (he of Theory of Evolution fame - Well - I have developed an equally idiotic theory - both Charles Darwin theory and my own theory are quite valid - since are based on the same hypothesis - namely (The More Intelligent and Intellectually Aware You Think You Are - The More Paranoid Schitsophrenic and Psychopathic You Really Are) -
Let us remember some facts - the US has destroyed Libya - almost similar to the rape and destruction of Iraq & Afghanistan - China was building infrastucture projects in Libya - Yet it is China - who is an enemy of the west - we live in a strange upside world -
But - personally - I would much prefer to have China as an enemy - building infracstruture projects in my garden - than the Depleted Uranium Friendship of the US and or NATO - but don't worry - what you wish for is on it's way - my only hope is that these super intelligent folks in the west - wait a few years - they will save a few million dollars on the cost of the Depleted Uranium and phospher bombs.
Reply from The Daily Bell
What WE WISH FOR?
Sure you have the right blog?
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Posted by laceja on 10/26/11 11:13 AM
War is seen, but by the elite, as a great distraction. Of course, they will always do whatever to position us for a war of necessity. The necessity is to distract us and spend us deeper and deeper. Not to mention, it provides excellent evidence for a one world centralized government, which will, of course, prevent all future "conflicts". Too bad so many Americans are so easily manipulated.
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Posted by Don on 10/26/11 10:46 AM
"China is evidently and obviously a kind of controlled opposition - a convenient grand backdrop on which any one of a number of perceptions may be generated."
China, a PE perception panacea. A Swiss knife plugging holes in memes that go all Swiss cheese. (To an assassin with a dagger, every problem looks like a bareback.)
"We really don't see at this point how China can be considered an 'enemy' of the West"
Dragon donned Bear's Varyag ( Click to view link )accouterments to help Western Admiralty keep careers viable by fighting the last great world war.
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Posted by TerryWriterFromPortCredit on 10/26/11 10:42 AM
And there it is - the reason behind "He's a real prince alright" Philip and his scowley, child-like imagined "I'm a killer virus" face.
Chicom's leaders have been co-opted by the elite's population reduction scheme because they know their real intentions have been outed. Once OWS and it's brother and sister movements world-wide get co-opted by the "Kill The Central Banking System" advocates - the Elites (Chicom's leaders are obviously elite-thinkers) will have to co-opt ALL military leaders into their scheme (those already not on board, that is)
ALL POINTS BULLETIN: All Oath Keepers of The Global Village (the true new world order). All honourable men and women (lovers of family/lovers of humanity) - get on the phone NOW!
Phone everyone you know - up and down the spectrum of the military hierarchy - right to those you know at the top. All throughout this Global Village -
For once the #Occupy Central Banks advocates grow in numbers large enough to scare the elite - they wil be pushing the "buttons" they still have their fingers on.
Always remember -
(For if you don't it will be at you and your children's and children's chilren onwards) -
These elites are PSYCHOPATHS!
Just look at "Hilarious" Clinton's and "A prince alright" Phillip's faces in the postings here at the DB if you don't believe me.
A Mohandas Movement = A Gandhi Outcome!
Peace always first - T.
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Posted by Stan on 10/26/11 10:30 AM
China has same central planning as the US/EU and is facing serious problems as result of central banking, credit expansion and a mercantilist policy. Some people already revolting there. Would not it suit their elite (communist party) to participate in a war in order to crush dissent, impose a lot of controls all in the name of nationalism? Heck, if it works in the West, why it should not in the East? The very same dynamics are in play there in my view and the toolbox they have is pretty much the same.
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Posted by Hoss on 10/26/11 10:16 AM
From another perspective, the quote from BBC is quite easy to translate:
1. Your energy consumption is your standard of living.
2. Carbon dioxide is the product of energy consumption.
3. China promises never to allow the standard of living of its serfs to equal ours.
Easy promise for them to make.
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Posted by Dave Jr on 10/26/11 10:05 AM
"We hold the planet in trust for future generations", said Lord (Michael) Jay, Globe's vice president.
That pretty much says it all. A Trust that they inherited no doubt. Can you believe the arrogance?
It is funny how the Elite organize themselves. A central core with concentric rings of lesser power and influence. If they would step back, they would see they have painted themselves as a target complete with a bulls eye.
