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Tuesday, November 08, 2011 – by Staff Report

Friedrich Nietzsche

DARKMOON (summing up): I am not really in disagreement with you on most important points. Even though I have accused you of being guilty of a "glaring contradiction" — your apparent U-turn on the unity of the Jews, once united like a swarm of locusts flying in ordered ranks, now disunited and split into several conflicting groups — this need not in fact be a contradiction at all. It could be a development or new nuance to your views, an added complexity; indeed, a kind of paradox in which the Jews are united and disunited at the same time, just as the universe is filled with light and darkness at the same time, and just as good and evil exist simultaneously in the same heart .... Life is too short and precious to waste it on "anti-Semitism". One has to move beyond this puerile response to Jewish world supremacy. Perhaps the role of the Jew in human affairs is to be the beast of prey that teaches the rest of us to run a bit faster. – Rense

Dominant Social Theme: Is it the fault of the Jews?

Free-Market Analysis: Former President George Bush's least favorite website, Rense.com, (but one we're partial to) recently published two interesting, additional articles on what could be called the Jewish Question. We found them interesting because we've written a series of articles on this subject. It is a big dominant social theme of the elite in our view.

In fact, it is one that seems to be blossoming. The powers-that-be have been patiently creating a modern brand of anti-Semitism for at least a century or longer, we tend to believe. And the same can be said of Zionism, which is once again (more and more) a term of opprobrium. We have even advanced the idea that modern Jewish elites are in a sense encouraging anti-Semitism to create maximum chaos, especially in the Middle East, and to frighten more Jews into going there.

Do elite Jewish families represent all Jews? A Zionist in common (Western) parlance, is someone who wants a Jewish state. That's the standard modern definition. Not all Zionists from what we know want to "rule the world." Not all Zionists even want Israel's borders to expand from "river to river." Not all Zionists may be in favor of killing Palestinians. Not all Zionists may be in favor of Jewish socialism.

And of course, not all Jews are in favor of Israel. Not all Jews believe a Jewish state is in the best interest of Jews. Some Jews wish the state of Israel had never been founded. Some Jews believe that inevitably it will be secularized. We hope it is secularized sooner than later.

So let us again note that the idea that the term "money mafia" or "Jewish cartel" is perhaps a better description than the term "Zionist" (when used as a term of opprobrium) and certainly the all-inclusive nomenclature "Jew." Language is important in an unsettled age and there seems to be a rising tide of anti-Semitism in America and around the world.

We have noted the increasing fashion of denouncing Zionism and even Jews by otherwise admirable denizens of the alternative Internet media. From our point of view, blaming an entire race for the sins of its elites is like blaming all Americans for the maltreatment of American Indians (AKA native Americans).

In our view it doesn't help the cause or credibility of the alternative press, no matter how well meaning it is. Not only that, but the Western world's elites, which we call the Anglosphere power elite, is made up far more than Jews, or even what some call "crypto Jews."

Not all Jews are to blame for what's going on. Not even all Zionists. You can see a previous article on the Zionist issue here: Zionism as an Elite Promotion or Fashion Statement?

Now, let us first comment briefly on the article excerpted above by the talented Dr. Darkmoon – poetess, artist and editorialist – entitled "DARKMOON UPON AMERICA, BY ISRAEL SHAMIR: Response, Pictures and Captions by Lasha Darkmoon."

This seems to contain language a little less stern than her previous position that Organized Jewry was basically responsible for the world's woes. Her comment at the end is telling: ".... Life is too short and precious to waste it on 'anti-Semitism'. One has to move beyond this puerile response to Jewish world supremacy."

This seems hopeful, in fact, blaming a whole people for the putative sins of an elite is never healthy – not for either side. To define those responsible for what is going on as singularly "Jewish" or to imply that Jews – all Jews – are involved is simply inaccurate in our humble view. Well ... we've written that before ...

Now let us turn briefly to another article recently posted (or reposted) by Rense via "Real Zionist News" and entitled "The Jews Who Wrote the Protocols of Zion." This article gives us an alternative sense of a document that many deny is genuine. Others claim the Protocols, a damnably evil document, was the product of "Jews."

The author certainly seems to know his stuff and is trying to put to rest the idea that the Czar's secret service was somehow responsible for the document as a way to discredit Jews and to incite anti-Semitism. He quotes from declassified US Intel docs, to show that the founders of Zionism, "including Theodore Herzl, hailed as the father of world political Zionism," were influenced by the Protocols. 

And yet ... it is helpful to quote the very first feedback to the article: "Dear Real Zionist News Family: The evidence against the JEWS writing The Protocols is DAMNING! Out of their own mouths THEY PROVE that they WROTE The Protocols! ..."

Is this obviously true? Is it? What the author has seemingly shown is someone "Jewish' or SOMEONES wrote the Protocols. And if this reportage is to be believed, the Protocols were heavily influenced by uber-philosopher Friedrich Nietzche, so we cannot even argue that they simply represent several thousand years of accumulated Talmudic history. Nietzsche died in 1900.

The Protocols, according to the article, were circulated among a secret Freemason society that claimed a Rothschild as a member. Thus the Protocols were circulating, apparently, at the highest level – not necessarily to all Jews, but to a Jewish elite.

Surely not all Jews were influenced by Nietzsche. If this article is to be believed, the Protocols may not even have circulated very widely and were in any case the work of some rather radicalized young men, at least initially. And here is Herzl, as quoted in the article:

The Jews must acquire economic power sufficiently great to overcome prejudice against them. When we sink, we become a revolutionary proletariat, but when we rise, there rises also our terrible power of the purse.

No better summation of mercantilism could we find, given that Herzl is obviously referring to a political process. It is economic power that empowers poor ideologies. And it is mercantilism that drives them forward. Nietzsche's ideas had the most impact, realistically, when married to STATE power. (See Nazi German.) The ideology itself is not of much importance, as Herzl realized. Ideology is only effective when the monopoly power of the state drives it.

Not all Jews wrote the Protocols (if "Jews" did write them). And aspects of the Protocols that may affect nations today do so because an ideology is being driven by mercantilism, by MONEY POWER. This is what we have argued elsewhere in other articles, and this article on the Protocols would seem to support this paradigm as well.

Conclusion: Getting rid of central banks and central banking won't kill the concept of the Nietzschian Superman but will render it far more harmless. Without mercantilism actuating the monopoly power of state-force, bad ideologies are nothing more than pieces of paper. Reduce the power of the state and the ability of bad people to manipulate its laws and you will make a real difference in this world. 




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  Posted by IndianaJohn on 12/20/11 10:54 PM

DB is in an open discussion on Jews, Jewry, Zionism and more. What a difference a couple of months makes.

Reply from The Daily Bell

We've always been open about it. From day one. It's integral to any realistic analysis. We just don't agree, as you may, that it is a "Jewish problem."

  Posted by taxesbyanyothername on 11/10/11 05:15 AM

Posted by tawny on 11/09/11 03:26 PM
When you find issues/controversies which people love to debate endlessly, which are emotionally inflammatory and which divide the masses into oppositional stances/groups - it is a pretty strong possibility that the controlling elites might be busy behind the scenes, fomenting these quarrels and keeping them alive.

Divide and conquer; and get people OUT of the rational mode and INTO the emotional mode. So part of what the Jewish question is all about is just that, those two strategies. Judge only by results.

Israel is so heavily funded by the US that it to a large extent IS the United States. Without US dollars, how powerful would Israel be? Keeping the whole Jewish meme alive is also useful for manipulating US Khazarian Jews into supporting the putative 'State of Israel'.

WW II was so useful there, in emotionalizing the world's Jews, who overwhelmingly are descendants of Khazarian converts and not of the Biblical Middle-Eastern bloodline at all, and thus have no valid claim whatsoever that any part of that area is or ever was their 'homeland'.

It is plausible that one reason WW II and the Holocaust were fomented was to be able to create a NWO stronghold/presence in the Mid-East. The Mid-East has an important geographic location, a lot of oil wealth, and a bunch of intransigent Muslim countries which are most emphatically not NWO-friendly.

So, viewing Israel as a de facto part or outpost of the United States and therefore of the NWO power bloc ... what are the benefits of Israel existing there in the Mid-East - what are the benefits to the NWO clique whose puppet/tool/'enforcer' the United States (and therefore also Israel) at this point pretty clearly does seem to be?

One, the US (therefore the NWO power bloc) has a foothold, a pied a terre from which to operate, there in that crucially strategically and financially important area of the world.

Two, the USA/NWO guys -- the Rot Schilds and associates, like the Rockefellers and the British Crown and City of London and their various front-companies like Goldman-Sachs -- that is to say, the powers behind the NWO -- can hide behind Israel's skirts, and can 'play the Jewish guilt card' to great advantage against their enemies in the area (and elsewhere, using cut-outs such as the Southern Poverty Law Center). Enemies of the NWO power bloc can be demonized/dismissed as 'anti-Semitic.'

Also, the populist enemies of the NWO power bloc are divided and conquered and spend huge amounts of time, emotion, and energy quarreling over Israel and the endlessly inflammatory 'Jewish question.'

The Ottoman empire was dismantled at the end of WW I. League of Nations mandates gave control of Syria and Lebanon to France (the, as you call them, Rot Schilds were big there before they ever got to Britain) and control of Palestine, TransJordan and Mesopotamia to Britain. So they already had a much larger "foothold" than Israel. If the U. S. needed Israel as a base to wage war in the Middle East it sure didn't look like it when we took Iraq. I don't want to slam the door on you this hard, but your analysis, at least the foothold part of it, just does not work.

  Posted by TimurTheLame on 11/09/11 03:41 PM

DB " we point to THREE examples and you come back with... ."

Good one!

@ Tawney

Well stated.

  Posted by tawny on 11/09/11 03:26 PM

When you find issues/controversies which people love to debate endlessly, which are emotionally inflammatory and which divide the masses into oppositional stances/groups - it is a pretty strong possibility that the controlling elites might be busy behind the scenes, fomenting these quarrels and keeping them alive.

Divide and conquer; and get people OUT of the rational mode and INTO the emotional mode. So part of what the Jewish question is all about is just that, those two strategies. Judge only by results.

Israel is so heavily funded by the US that it to a large extent IS the United States. Without US dollars, how powerful would Israel be? Keeping the whole Jewish meme alive is also useful for manipulating US Khazarian Jews into supporting the putative 'State of Israel'.

WW II was so useful there, in emotionalizing the world's Jews, who overwhelmingly are descendants of Khazarian converts and not of the Biblical Middle-Eastern bloodline at all, and thus have no valid claim whatsoever that any part of that area is or ever was their 'homeland'.

It is plausible that one reason WW II and the Holocaust were fomented was to be able to create a NWO stronghold/presence in the Mid-East. The Mid-East has an important geographic location, a lot of oil wealth, and a bunch of intransigent Muslim countries which are most emphatically not NWO-friendly.

So, viewing Israel as a de facto part or outpost of the United States and therefore of the NWO power bloc ... what are the benefits of Israel existing there in the Mid-East - what are the benefits to the NWO clique whose puppet/tool/'enforcer' the United States (and therefore also Israel) at this point pretty clearly does seem to be?

One, the US (therefore the NWO power bloc) has a foothold, a pied a terre from which to operate, there in that crucially strategically and financially important area of the world.

Two, the USA/NWO guys -- the Rot Schilds and associates, like the Rockefellers and the British Crown and City of London and their various front-companies like Goldman-Sachs -- that is to say, the powers behind the NWO -- can hide behind Israel's skirts, and can 'play the Jewish guilt card' to great advantage against their enemies in the area (and elsewhere, using cut-outs such as the Southern Poverty Law Center). Enemies of the NWO power bloc can be demonized/dismissed as 'anti-Semitic.'

Also, the populist enemies of the NWO power bloc are divided and conquered and spend huge amounts of time, emotion, and energy quarreling over Israel and the endlessly inflammatory 'Jewish question.'

  Posted by TimurTheLame on 11/09/11 09:35 AM

@ DB

Indeed the point you are making is not complicated. I addressed a minor point within the totality of the self evident point(s) that you are making.

I had not heard of Dr. Darkmoon before your articles and only went to her site after posting my latest comments. I read through her article and her full exchange with Mr. Shamir.

There was much that I found factually or logically lacking in both their arguments and she ended up waffling as though intimidated by Mr. Shamir.

So we obviously differ on who we consider to be authoritative sources or as you put it " otherwise admirable denizens" of the net. The sources that I had read in the past were not contemporary reactionaries but more along the religious scholar type and had more benevolence for humanity as a whole.

Even in contemporary analysis, anyone who condemns all for the actions of a few needs not to be brought to account but has already discredited himself/herself. Hence my point.

I know you used Koresh purposefully as a bad analogy but as an aside his biggest contribution to history became to show what happens when you fire back and actually win a fire-fight ( with women shouldering AK's) against Mammon's goons.

You get assassinated in the media as being a violent child molester and then the good guys show up and show you what real violence is, with overwhelming force (the same children transform into collateral damage). Militia paying attention? No? Off to OK city... . and here we are.

Some quacks in the future may even paint him as a messianic figure.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Timur, here is your argument. We (DB) have set up a straw man by maintaining that it is becoming increasingly fashionable for a certain portion of the "Net to use a certain kind of terminology to describe what we call the Anglosphere power elite.

Now when we point to THREE examples where this is occurring, you come back with the notion that none of these examples are "authoritative sources." We never presented the notion that ANYTHING on the 'Net (with the exception of DB) was an authoritative source! So we stand by our "analysis." You believe we've set up a straw man. We want it to blow away.

  Posted by TimurTheLame on 11/09/11 06:13 AM

I have difficulty with the oft repeated and what I perceive to be a red herring in your recent series of articles, namely that all "otherwise admirable denizens" in lock-step equate ALL Jews with the actions of an evil elite.

I know of no such examples where the friendly haberdasher in the industrial district is equated with a Wall Street TARP worm.

All writers that I have read on topics of Zionism that I consider to be reasonable and objective have clearly qualified the distinction. I have not read the Protocols for 20 years and do not have time now but sometimes my memory works and I seem to recall that within them, there is written that the least of their own must be sacrificed for their grand plan. Correct me If I am wrong but it was with a serpent analogy.

If this is the case, and TPOZ are required reading for 'anti-semites' , wouldn't it be " the least admirable denizens" ie stupid racists who want to blame the whole of the people.

Reply from The Daily Bell

OK, Timur, it is NOT COMPLICATED. We have simply made the argument that the use of the word Zionist and the use of the word Jew are not being SUFFICIENTLY QUALIFIED in this modern era of the alternative press by some otherwise admirable alternative news websites. We used Dr. Darkmoon's article as a prime example of this. Then we used the Real Zionist News article to further elaborate our case.

Dr. Darkmoon clearly doesn't distinguish between all "Jews" and some "Zionists" in her original articles. The Real Zionist News author makes the point in his first feedback that his research proves "Jews" wrote the Protocols. Our point, clearly made, was that it doesn't prove anything of the sort within the ambit of his apparent intentions. Not "all" Jews wrote the Protocols, if they did. Not all "Zionists" did either.

So call the Money Power Conspiracy what it is. Not a religious conspiracy but a Money Mafia, a Jewish Cartel, aided by its enablers and associates who are religious, corporate and military. Not all are Jewish. No all are crypto-Jews. Not all are intimidated. Some work for the Conspiracy gladly and mightily who are "not Jews."

This is not so hard to understand. Mercantilism is the distinguishing factor here as it always is. Not ideology. Not religion. Else David Koresh would have ruled the world instead of squatting in a wooden box that burned down.

  Posted by bob on 11/09/11 12:12 AM

I love the DB logic: central banks are no-good and evil enterprises but Jews who own and run these evil banks empires are really good and honorable people.

After all, Al Capone was a very compassionate person running soap-kitchens for poor and hungry people.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Where did we write that Jews who run central banks are "good and honorable people?" We have been suggesting that people be specific in their criticisms of what's happening. You think it is a improvement to speak of "Organized Jewry" and "all Zionists" when discussing issues of Money Power. You think it is "courageous." We think it is a modern fashion. It's not helpful in our view. The problem is not JUST a Jewish one.

  Posted by Abu Aardvark on 11/08/11 05:52 PM

DB: "we are waiting for the bullets"

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  Posted by free on 11/08/11 04:36 PM

Absolutely brilliant.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Oh, hah, we are waiting for the bullets. Thanks.

  Posted by Kriss Robin on 11/08/11 04:33 PM

"DB This seems hopeful, in fact, blaming a whole people for the putative sins of an elite is never healthy - not for either side. To define those responsible for what is going on as singularly "Jewish" or to imply that Jews - all Jews - are involved is simply inaccurate in our humble view. Well ... we've written that before."

Blame never gives answer to the symptom, BLAME is the problem.
Putting someone in jail for robbing banks does not stop banks being robbed. It only prolongs the activity of "robbing banks".

Blame, induces a sense of guilt which is felt as resentment, this consequently is carried on by those with a propensity towards this mind set, held in the accumulative human psyche. There is always someone to fill the space of bank robber as long as this sense of guilt/resentment occupies a space in "human consciousness".

The blame game has been going on for, since the beginning of time. I hear people talk about how well they understand the "bankster system" DB inclusive, but something as simple as understanding "blame" seems to stand allusive.

There are many psychologists and clever pen pushers who read these pages. Blame seems to give a reason for living, for being a better judge of character, of being higher up in the intellectual pecking order. It does not take blame to be clever, or a better human being. If it was really seen how much of humanity is held together by a thin string of concepts based on lie's. The lie's are there only to mask this deeper sense of guilt/resentment that can not be faced up to. But it is always easier to blame than face one's own guilt.

Is it the corruption of the world that is at fault, or the people that carry on this corruption. Or is it oneself for sleeping and allowing roles to be reversed. The Founding Few KNEW this, foresaw this, warned against it.

So where does the blame lie, if there is blame at all. One must always sort one's own house out first before one could possibly comment on another. But then, why would one want to correct one's own lie, only to look silly in the eyes of one's peers.

Only by recognition that a lie exist does it give a lie reality. One does not go out the back door if one wishes to leave through the front door.
This point is BASIC to the whole 'world argument', still there are lots of groups still debating opinions about details that are for the most part superfluous. It is said 'the devil is in the details', light entertainment.