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Military Versus Defense: Ron Paul Smacks Down WSJ's Seib

Tuesday, January 17, 2012 – by Staff Report

"Congressman Paul, South Carolina has seven major military bases, but you want to make major cuts in defense spending, several hundred billion dollars in the coming years. What do you say to people in this state?" – Wall Street Journal's Gerald Seib. .... "I would say your question suggests you are very confused about my position. I want to cut money, overseas money. I don't want to cut defense spending. We would save a lot more money and have a stronger national defense. Watch out for the military-industrial complex!" – Ron Paul ... YouTube, South Carolina debate, January 16, 2012

Dominant Social Theme: The US can't cut military spending because it will leave the country vulnerable to its enemies.

Free-Market Analysis: A little later perhaps than Ron Paul supporters would have liked, the eminence of conservative libertarianism has in many ways hit his stride. This video clip (see below) shows how Ron Paul is now capable of cutting moderators, and generally debate opponents, to pieces when they make a verbal slip. We can surely recall other inspiring Ron Paul moments but this, in our humble opinion, is the best we've seen.

In this video Ron Paul makes a firm distinction between defense spending and military spending. It's overdue, in our view, because Ron Paul has been continually criticized by neocons on this issue. He's loony, they complain. He would leave America defenseless.

Not at all. The difference between military spending and defense spending is a critical one. If the general public ever begins to make the proper connections, this distinction could cause a major change in the way US voters visualize how Washington DC "protects" them.

Military expenditures, Ron Paul explains, include those that fund the US's 900-plus bases around the world, the insane warring of the Anglosphere power elite and the expense of training and shipping soldiers anywhere in the world at a moment's notice.

Defense spending, he explains, has to do with protecting the "country" itself and its citizens. Defense spending can be accomplished WITHOUT military spending. They are two different kinds of spending.

What Ron Paul does not explain while making this differentiation is how it came about. What is increasingly evident and obvious in this era of the Internet is that there is a Anglosphere power elite – a cabal, a criminal mafia if you will, that controls central banking around the world and is using its impossible cash flows to build world government.

It is THIS gambit – a New World Order – that the sociopolitical, economic and military facilities of the West have twisted for their purposes. Whether the industry is banking, financial, educational, construction or military, the actual behavior of the sector is relentlessly globalist.

This is what people don't understand and what is difficult to describe as well. One needs to start with central banking and the unfathomable amounts of "money" that are available to those who control it. Then one needs to describe the "controllers" – those great, intergenerational, central-banking families and their enablers and associates.

Finally, one has to clearly explain their goals and objectives – the New World Order that they are relentlessly pursuing despite the Internet's increasing exposure.

Only once this groundwork has been laid can people truly appreciate the manipulation that has taken place in the past few hundred years. People are encouraged to think of a given country as "theirs" – but their patriotism is misplaced. The average citizen of his or her country has little to no power in deciding their nation's REAL policies, economic or otherwise.

This is because an Anglosphere power elite has used its tremendous Money Power to ensure that an increasing number of world leaders are beholden to it and will do as it dictates. This process was almost unimpeded until the advent of the Internet and the subsequent exposure of what's been taking place the world over.

It is this movement toward world government that Congressman Ron Paul opposes. He uses his own language, of course, and does not seek to penetrate much beneath the surface – for good, political reasons. But the result of his prescription would be salutary indeed.

End the Fed and fund "defense" instead of the "military" and much of the move toward a totalitarian global government would be blunted. Video below ...

(Video from Conservative1001BG's YouTube user channel.)



Military Versus Defense: Ron Paul Smacks Down WSJ's Seib





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  Posted by Bobby7 on 01/21/12 12:39 PM

Posted by David_Robertson on 01/18/12 05:19 PM
I believe that if Ron Paul is a freemason, he belonged to a fraternity in college, then it would have been at a low level for charitable purposes.

I have tried to determine the truth of this rumour and that is the best I have come up with. I believe his wife Carol was also involved on the women's side for the same reasons.

Let s not forget that most if not all of the founding fathers were freemasons and Ron Paul is a big fan of the Constitution. The secrecy was no doubt important for them during the time of the Revolution.

I have discovered nothing inauthentic about the man in the five years I have followed his career.

YO David,

What COMICS were YOU reading during American History?

There were MANY Founding Fathers who were Freemasons!

Why are you Americans SOOOO stupid?

Ron Paul is your ONLY hope to bring SANITY back to America!

GET REAL! VOTE RON PAUL!

  Posted by Bobby7 on 01/21/12 12:35 PM

Why are Americans SOOOOO STUPID?

Ron Paul should be CO-OPTED into the White House NOW & the Clown Obama who doesn't even have an American Birth Certificate, sent back to his own people!

WHY ARE WE WAITING?

RON PAUL FOR THE WHITE HOUSE-NOW!

  Posted by David_Robertson on 01/18/12 05:19 PM

Posted by reegje on 01/18/12 09:18 AM
Yes, it seems to be the case, but I keep reading that Ron Paul is also a Freemason. I wish someone asked him the question. I am all for Ron Paul: I tell everyone to vote for him, but this is nagging me big time. Like a big dark cloud.

I believe that if Ron Paul is a freemason, he belonged to a fraternity in college, then it would have been at a low level for charitable purposes.

I have tried to determine the truth of this rumour and that is the best I have come up with. I believe his wife Carol was also involved on the women's side for the same reasons.

Let s not forget that most if not all of the founding fathers were freemasons and Ron Paul is a big fan of the Constitution. The secrecy was no doubt important for them during the time of the Revolution.

I have discovered nothing inauthentic about the man in the five years I have followed his career.

  Posted by josejoe on 01/18/12 03:48 PM

Posted by TPaine on 01/18/12 01:48 AM
amerika is nation of nazis - so this guy paul tells the amerikan nazis that they are going to have a 'strong' defense - 'defense' is of course a codeword for attack. it's funny how some self-professed libertarians criticize politicians except when it comes to 'their' guy.

hey T-what are you on? is it expensive or can i find it in any feedlot?

  Posted by Stan on 01/18/12 11:54 AM

Posted by kenn on 01/18/12 09:57 AM
"Ron Paul is the litmus test. If you don't like Ron Paul you aren't thinking straight or you serve the PE."

What kind of BS is this? I don't know Paul. Have no idea if I would like him or not! I do like many of his proposals,,, that he might make a good president, but if I don't 'like' him I serve the PE? I 'serve' no one.

Had these presstitutes been as concerned with the offshoring of our manufacturing base maybe the government funded economy these bases provide wouldn't be so necessary???

Just sayin.

Unfortunately the statement about RP being the litmus test might be the cold reality of the situation. If total population control is achieved by propaganda to a large extent and it is using certain memes (everybody knows type of stuff frequently totally false), useless stuff (celebs, etc.) and even more importantly keeping silence over really important things than not agreeing with a messenger of the actual reality one is helping it to spread. I think.

  Posted by kenn on 01/18/12 09:57 AM

"Ron Paul is the litmus test. If you don't like Ron Paul you aren't thinking straight or you serve the PE."

What kind of BS is this? I don't know Paul. Have no idea if I would like him or not! I do like many of his proposals,,, that he might make a good president, but if I don't 'like' him I serve the PE? I 'serve' no one.

Had these presstitutes been as concerned with the offshoring of our manufacturing base maybe the government funded economy these bases provide wouldn't be so necessary???

Just sayin.

  Posted by reegje on 01/18/12 09:18 AM

Posted by DwightMann on 01/18/12 07:35 AM
Ron Paul, Prison Planet, and the Daily Bell are all on the right track, and are all in my daily cup of Tea Party. . .

Yes, it seems to be the case, but I keep reading that Ron Paul is also a Freemason. I wish someone asked him the question. I am all for Ron Paul: I tell everyone to vote for him, but this is nagging me big time. Like a big dark cloud.

  Posted by DwightMann on 01/18/12 07:35 AM

Ron Paul, Prison Planet, and the Daily Bell are all on the right track, and are all in my daily cup of Tea Party. . .

  Posted by David_Robertson on 01/18/12 03:45 AM

I preferred the distinction Ron Paul made in his speech after the New Hampshire primary. He drew the line between "defense spending" and "war profiteering". That really puts the issue in the proper light.

  Posted by David_Robertson on 01/18/12 03:41 AM

Posted by Charlie on 01/17/12 06:24 PM
Glenn Beck had all kinds of praise and support for Ron Paul until the straw polls and primaries started. Then he reverted back to the anti-Paul propaganda he spewed in '08. Does he think people don't notice this? He knew Ron Paul support brought ratings but now he has to toe the line and join in the Clear Channel smearbund. He discredits himself. Ron Paul is the litmus test. If you don't like Ron Paul you aren't thinking straight or you serve the PE.

Clear Channel is owned by Bain Capital, Romney's old company, so Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Beck et al are under contract to smear Ron Paul.

  Posted by finninsweden on 01/18/12 02:53 AM

Posted by TPaine on 01/18/12 01:48 AM
amerika is nation of nazis - so this guy paul tells the amerikan nazis that they are going to have a 'strong' defense - 'defense' is of course a codeword for attack. it's funny how some self-professed libertarians criticize politicians except when it comes to 'their' guy.

Well,let me tell you,TPaine that I am a guy who's extremely suspicious of all politicians and media types,heck, somtimes I even have doubts about the lad I see in my bathroom mirror! But Ron Paul seems to be a genuinly good man,although he could have better debating skills.

  Posted by TPaine on 01/18/12 01:48 AM

amerika is nation of nazis - so this guy paul tells the amerikan nazis that they are going to have a 'strong' defense - 'defense' is of course a codeword for attack. it's funny how some self-professed libertarians criticize politicians except when it comes to 'their' guy.

  Posted by til on 01/17/12 06:34 PM

[quote]"Ron Paul is the litmus test. If you don't like Ron Paul you aren't thinking straight or you serve the PE." [/quote]
I agree.

  Posted by Charlie on 01/17/12 06:24 PM

Posted by Frank on 01/17/12 03:13 PM
I recently cancelled my subscription to GBTV after his rant about Ron Paul being in collaboration with Barney Franks & George Soros on some bill that was meant to cut the budget somehow (sorry, I forget the details). He came out at the start of the program just before the caucus vote in Iowa that evening and had about a half hour Ron Paul mud sling. Why? Is there any other small government, Constitution-loving candidate running on the GOP?
Very strange.

Glenn Beck had all kinds of praise and support for Ron Paul until the straw polls and primaries started. Then he reverted back to the anti-Paul propaganda he spewed in '08. Does he think people don't notice this? He knew Ron Paul support brought ratings but now he has to toe the line and join in the Clear Channel smearbund. He discredits himself. Ron Paul is the litmus test. If you don't like Ron Paul you aren't thinking straight or you serve the PE.

  Posted by seer on 01/17/12 06:08 PM

Ron Paul understands US military Hegemony; Chalmers Johnson understood this as did Howard Zinn. The problem is humans are easily scared and the US Media and other candidates are afraid to tell the truth. The candidates especially fear not being electable with a realistic stance on military spending. It is almost like the Roman Empire all over again. We are just waiting for our next Caesar to cross the Rubicon.

  Posted by Frank on 01/17/12 03:13 PM

Posted by dotti on 01/17/12 02:29 PM
Yeah. It is frustrating.

On Glen Beck this morning they said that they get the most threats from Ron Paul supporters. Somehow I think that's a distortion of some sort. Also beat the drum for retaliation against Afghanistan for 911. Brought up some crap about Barbary pirates around 1800 to prove that Ron Paul was wrong in saying that our global forays were unconstitutional. I have always respected Glen Beck. Now I'm not so sure. Sounds like he is serving the PE.

I can't say that I have any confidence that we will ever have a President Paul.

Cheers, Bluebird!!!

I recently cancelled my subscription to GBTV after his rant about Ron Paul being in collaboration with Barney Franks & George Soros on some bill that was meant to cut the budget somehow (sorry, I forget the details). He came out at the start of the program just before the caucus vote in Iowa that evening and had about a half hour Ron Paul mud sling. Why? Is there any other small government, Constitution-loving candidate running on the GOP?
Very strange.

  Posted by Frank on 01/17/12 03:04 PM

Posted by laceja on 01/17/12 02:46 PM
You can be certain, the main stream media, conservative included, will not be replaying that clip on the evening news.

Yep.
Got to see it here on the internet at places like the DB.

  Posted by Ol' Grey Ghost on 01/17/12 03:04 PM

I think "truth-in-advertising" laws should be applied to the federal government so that it is forced to return to calling the "Department of Defense (sic)" the War Department. So much more factual and to the point...

Click to view link

  Posted by Bluebird on 01/17/12 03:03 PM

Posted by dotti on 01/17/12 02:29 PM
Yeah. It is frustrating.

On Glen Beck this morning they said that they get the most threats from Ron Paul supporters. Somehow I think that's a distortion of some sort. Also beat the drum for retaliation against Afghanistan for 911. Brought up some crap about Barbary pirates around 1800 to prove that Ron Paul was wrong in saying that our global forays were unconstitutional. I have always respected Glen Beck. Now I'm not so sure. Sounds like he is serving the PE.

I can't say that I have any confidence that we will ever have a President Paul.

Cheers, Bluebird!!!

I am afraid I don't listen to any of those talkiing heads. But I have always had doubts about Beck from the few things I have read of his. Why would he say they get threats from RP supporters if it was not true? Hmm... I have not listened to him on the matter, but do know he is a Mormon and I am guessing he is supporting Mitt? If so, that could account for it, maybe?

I don't know if we will have a President Paul, but at least a whole lot of people will not be fooled by the same old, same old, thanks to Ron Paul, and websites such as this great one. The message will only grow.

Thanks, Dotti, and keep your chin up. That kind of propoganda doesn't work anymore.

  Posted by Frank on 01/17/12 03:03 PM

Ron Paul is on target & points out a huge blind spot in most Americans as well as journalists.

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