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Eisenhower and the Aliens
President Eisenhower had three secret meetings with aliens, former Pentagon consultant claims. Ex-President met with extra-terrestrials on three separate occasions at New Mexico air base ... Eisenhower and other FBI officials are said to have organised the showdown with the space creatures by sending out 'telepathic messages' – UK Daily Mail
Dominant Social Theme: Wow, this Eisenhower was something else – a Supreme Allied Commander with a telepathic bent.
Free-Market Analysis: We have long pointed out that one of the elite's dominant social themes is the idea that aliens are involved with Earth, as an Internet search on "Daily Bell" and "alien invasion" shows.
This fear-based promotion is helpful to the Anglosphere power elite because it often breeds among people a kind of paranoia, which in turn gives the powers-that-be a more sympathetic environment for more expansive government and charismatic "leaders."
The "aliens among us" meme also provides the elites with a great way of devaluing and controlling the alternative Internet media. By planting dubious "alien" stories within controlled media environments that appear to be alternative media sites (but are not) the powers-that-be can devalue serious exposes.
Often these "aliens among us" stories are sprinkled like spice among serious articles regarding the military-industrial complex, central banking and other subjects that warrant study and consideration. Often referred to as "poisoning the well," inserting such stories – articles generally about the paranormal, the Illuminati, etc. – creates an environment where, for many people, every kind of alternative viewpoint is then cast into doubt.
Lately, as we have documented over the past year or more, there are more and more of these stories featuring off-Earth creatures. Now, here at DB we're not going to suggest that there are NO other intelligent life forms in the universe. But we have a hard time with the "here and now" stuff.
The idea that Eisenhower sat down at a conclave with "grays" and plenty of witnesses is just a bit hard for us to believe. It sounds more like a Grade D Hollywood movie than real history. Here's some more from the article:
Conspiracy theorists have circulated increased rumours in recent months that the meeting between the Commander-in-Chief and people from another planet took place. But the claims from Mr Good, a former U.S. Congress and Pentagon consultant, are the first to be made publicly by a prominent academic.
Speaking on Frank Skinner's BBC2 current affairs show Opinionated, he said that governments around the world have been in regular contact with aliens for many decades ... It has been claimed that Dwight D. Eisenhower met the extra-terrestrials at the Holloman Air Force base in New Mexico.
The initial meeting is supposed to have taken place with aliens who were 'Nordic' in appearance, but the agreement was eventually 'signed' with a race called 'Alien Greys'. Mr Good added: 'We know that up to 90 per cent of all UFO reports can be explained in conventional terms. However, I would say millions of people worldwide have actually seen the real thing.'
There are yet more reasons for the power elite to float this sort of narrative. Thanks to what we call the Internet Reformation, more and more people are discovering the many ways their lives have been manipulated.
But by adding a good dollop of information about non-existent aliens, the elites can dilute that dawning knowledge and redirect credulous people away from the really important matters – such as how the society in which they live and work has been constructed to deny them freedom and reduce their opportunities.
It's all about control, and the way to induce control is to create these vast historical narratives – what we have come to call directed history. In the 20th century, such directed history was from what we can tell amazingly effective. The elites developed their story lines, hired their cronies to play their parts and then wrote the "approved" history in the aftermath.
The goal was always apparently the same, however. World domination – what's been called a New World Order. The 20th century moved the peoples of Earth a good way closer to that destination. The 21st century was supposed to have finished the job, but the Internet's sparked a growing comprehension – and resentment – having to do with what's REALLY taking place.
We've been waiting for the proverbial other shoe to drop, frankly. We wouldn't put it past the current powers-that-be to organize a large false-flag event featuring aliens. It seems to us that's where they're headed, though perhaps the Internet itself and the ability of people to scrutinize power elite themes has made them more cautious.
As cautious as they may be these days, the elites are a contemptuous bunch. They simply don't believe that even massive exposes of their activities matter much. We see it differently.
Conclusion: If the powers-that-be DO try create some massive false-flag alien episode, they may find people are not nearly so credulous as in the 1920s when Orson Welles caused massive hysteria with his War of the Worlds broadcast. Times are changing.
Posted by samson on 02/21/12 03:31 AM
Am 2 days late in my remarks but must state my credentials. I am a believer
in conspiracies. Am 94 yrs age. Observer of world events, and memory is to
my utter delight, sharper, although med. sci. says no. Air Force vet of WWII
& Korea. History major for 75 years. I had convers. w/IKE & Lemay. Neither
had discourse w/aliens. In our thousands of hours of flight we all have seen strange phenomena, yet none of us have had physical or convers, w/ aliens, nor seen even one. There are always ongoing tech advances in aviation in secret, many of strange & massive size. Yet, there are aliens here on earth. Now before you tune me out, consider a bit of wisdom here. I'll lay the gr-ound work. The Commander in Chief's name is APOLLYON.He has army of millions. Gen.2:7 MAN formed from DUST. (Gen.3:1 Serpent). Gen.3:14&15 Serpent to eat DUST, enmity between Serpent & Mankind. Gen.6:4 The NEPHILIM (sons of gods) cohabited w/the daughters of men. A strain of some of the earlier inhabitants were a combo of Serpent & man. When Lucifer was cast out of God's presence (Isaiah 14:12-19)a third of the angels were cast w/him.
These evil angels are able to assume flesh or spirit form.They enter bodies of those who dwell in evil. The enmity continues. Rev.12:3&4&9&17 Rev.13:13.
Psalms 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.
Yes, there are strange & evil aliens here, but none of recent arrival.
Posted by charlesfrith on 02/19/12 07:52 AM
Sometimes the Daily Bell is unable to parse the nuance.
Posted by Henry Pierson on 02/18/12 07:43 PM
You're free to suppose anything you like if that makes you happy Mr. Wiggins. You may also base you beliefs on faith---your choice. And certainly you are correct that scientists have been 'flat out wrong'. But, until you can demonstrate otherwise I am afraid I will have to rely on the existing body of knowledge and not your suppositions.
Posted by Paul P. Wiggins II on 02/18/12 07:34 PM
And I thought I had a collection of quotes!
Posted by Paul P. Wiggins II on 02/18/12 07:17 PM
Suppose, Mr. Pierson, that "some basic scientific principles" are flat-out wrong! The byproducts of emaciated imaginations. Or mathematical miscalculations. The legacies of yesteryear's Amazing Randis and Steven Pinkers...
It wouldn't be the first time now, would it?
Back in the day, a clutch of eminent scientists -- the kind that gobble up grants and rack up tenure and book deals today -- once averred that meteorites not only didn't exist, but couldn't be!
And another august coterie was similiarly stubborn vis-a-vis the prospect of manned flight!
Today still another cartel gargles the global warming frogwash!
The list is long...
So much of science is oh so shallow -- little more methinks, than religion with Right Guard and razors...
Certain widely reported UFO activities compel the conclusion the speed of light is routinely exceeded -- not in the brute force manner you know doubt envision it -- but rather by some transcendent modality. If this means Albert was amiss, then Albert was amiss!
Still other collateral manifestations of the UFO phonemenon have served to convince me that we homo sapiens are, to put it a tad crassly, somebody's Science Fair project -- and it's not only us, but all life on this planet. There is far too great a physical resemblance between people and certain alien lifeforms (as witnessed by thousands of people on thousands of occasions) and, additionally, between reptile and insect species and still other alien lifeforms (again as witnessed by thousands of people on thousands of occasions). If this means Charles got it wrong, then Charles got it wrong!
Suppose that space itself is a form of matter... This would imply that time has a physical component, for time and space are like ice and steam, i.e., two perceptions/manifestations of the same thing... Further suppose that "alien science," which I am convinced is thousands, perhaps millions, of years ahead of us has developed the means to mold/manipulate, compress/expand the essence of space (or time, if you prefer) and, furthermore, is able, pursuant to their insights, to derive (and propagate) energy in ways that are incomprehensible to our relatively minor minds.
Suppose, Mr. Pierson, that we ARE living in the 21st century, but that THEY are living in the 47th!
"It's just amazing what people believe"
Well, you got one thing right anyway!
"The universe is not only queerer than you think, it's queerer than you can imagine!" -- J.B.S. Haldane
"Who are you going to believe -- me, or your lying eyes?" -- Richard Pryor
Posted by Paul P. Wiggins II on 02/18/12 05:04 PM
The rumors about Ike having a tete-a-tete with ETs at Holloman AFB have wafted through the paranormal ether for some decades now; I've no idea whether or not the chatter is in any way rooted in reality.
I grew up on a Naval base wherein NORAD's Space Surveillance System is headquartered, and, even as a youngster, wondered just how it came to pass that the Navy -- the most terrestrially tethered of the fighting forces -- came to concern itself with those goings-on in the inner rungs of outer space. I had a number of cryptic conversations with civilian scientists employed therein which led me to the unsettling conclusion that our entire space program came about how it did and when it did because of what the military knew about the UFO phonemona, and that the Space Race provided a convenient cover story for off-piste activities that the government didn't care to share with the packhorse public.
As an adult I would spend 13 years in the aerospace business and over the course of that career would acquire additional tidbits of information that bolstered my adolescent synopsis. I have no doubt whatsoever that recent allegations that the Pentagon is operating a secret space program
There is reason to believe that the military was well aware of ET visitations well before the UFO wave of 1947 as this poignant recollection, given by one Ronald Claridge to Tim Good and cited in Mr. Good's 2007 book "Need to Know" attests:
"We were returning to our base and still flying over France, which was a hotbed for German fighters, so we were very alert. I was the radio and radar operator and as such was concentrating on my 'Fishpond' screen looking for the blips of German fighters. The first I knew that anything untoward was happening, my screen went blank - I thought it was an electrical failure. I was reporting this to the skipper when he shouted over the intercom, 'What the hell is that?'
I moved into the astrodome, which gave 360-degree vision. I stood looking into the night. On our starboard side was a sight I have never forgotten. By the time our Lancaster was flying straight and level. There was a string of lights which stretched ahead and behind us for what seemed miles. The lights along our side were the largest and brightest, fading into the vast distance. We could only hear our engine noises and there was no turbulance - only the lights.
As my night vision improved I saw a grey saucer-like object emerge as part of the lights. It is still difficult to describe its size... I am an artist and I painted what I saw. Our Lancaster was a large aeroplane but the only comparison I can make is that we were but a dot on a sheet of foolscap paper. We all watched this object for about 3 minutes. We watched it shoot away - it was just a flash of light and the vast size was gone in less than a second, without any noise or turbulence.
There was a silence among the crew, and I can only give my own reactions. I seemed to know whatever it was had been watching us. I was left with a feeling of complete calm and the feeling that I was finished with war - which I must say never left me. I was a Warrant Officer: we finished our tour after four more operations and as far as I was concerned I finished my active service then. It was some time before I thought we had met the ultimate weapon - no one left willing to fight in future wars!
I often wonder if this encounter had any effect on our lives. Personally I believe it did. I remember that during those few minutes I felt no fear whatsoever. And why did our gunners not open fire?"
When the crew returned to Oakington (air base), it seemed that more intelligence officers than usual were present at the debriefing. "They just took notes of our experience and did not seem surprised at all at what we reported, and we were not even debriefed about the raid," Claridge explained. "One thing I remember is that we were told not to discuss what we had seen, even among ourselves, and I think we respected this."
And it wasn't just the Anglo-American elite who pondered wartime peculiarities as these remarks by Adolph Hitler affirm:
"What will the social order of the future be like? Comrades, I will tell you. There will be a class of overlords, and after them the rank and file fo the Party Members in hierarchical order, and then the great mass of anonymous
followers, servants and workers in perpetuity, and beneath them, again all the conquered foreigh races, the modern slaves. And over and above all these will reign a new and exalted nobility of whom I cannot speak... But of all these plans, the ordinary militant members will know nothing... The new man is living amongst us now! He is here! Isn't that enough for you? I will tell you a secret. I have seen the new man. He is intrepid and cruel. I was afraid of him."
I would very much like to read a Daily Bell interview not only with Tim Good, but with Richard Dolan and Richard Sauder as well (the latter being the preeminent authority on the elite's network of underground bases).
I have long been of the opinion that the suppression of information regarding the UFOs and ETs -- the primum mobile of which is the Pentagon -- is far and away the greatest crime in human history, and that the perpetrators should be exposed and subsequently compelled to face criminal charges.
Thanks once again for providing me a forum to sound off... ..
P.S. -- Could you guys update my email address:)
Posted by Prometheus on 02/18/12 10:04 AM
"Reply from The Daily Bell
We are working on the Thrive thing! "
It shouldn't be that hard to set up an interview with Foster Gamble, a much more giving and interesting format.
Posted by Prometheus on 02/18/12 10:01 AM
It's not an either/or scenario. The deep shadow government involved in this could use their own secret free-energy UFOs in a future bluebeam-type scenario perhaps.
That doesn't mean that real intelligences aren't here, i.e. UFOs from off-planet origin/extradimensional/intradimensional and what have we... .
But yeah, the possibility of extraterrestrials being here is a mind-bender and tremendous cognitive dissonance shock. Ancient myths might not be myths; book of enoch, nephilim, annunaki, dogon tribe, vimanas, etc.
Posted by Saintpaulia on 02/18/12 02:09 AM
Oh and one more thing. This was mentioned briefly above.
ROSWELL 1947. I don't have the title at hand of the definitive book on this episode but after reading it, it is very very difficult to maintain the belief that nothing happened. If nothing happened then why did the military harass and threaten scores of people in and around Roswell in connection with this "non-event"? These people's Constitutional rights were violated by the Army in egregious manners. Why? If this was a weather balloon or dummies falling out of the sky, or whatever new explanation the military comes up with next... then why the big fuss? They had guys out there from the nearby army base scouring the countryside for DAYS in order to remove EVERY tiny little piece of this "weather balloon". Every tiny piece! It was a major operation. Why? This alone is reason to doubt the official explanation. And why would all of these ordinary American citizens come up with all these stories of crashed UFOs? and maintain their stories in the face of physical threats by the FBI and other black ops agencies that came by their houses? Hmmm... ?
Posted by Saintpaulia on 02/18/12 01:50 AM
'sweepers, pegs and ropes?' You do not know anything about these "crop circles" if you still believe that nonesense. Watch THRIVE, the section on these puzzles. How could pranksters mimic a diagram of the human species complete with DNA sequence, etc.? And then carry out such a complicated pattern in the dark of night? It would have been hard to do during the day! How to direct the hokesters exactly so as to create these intricate designs? No DB, there is more to this.
Posted by Danny B on 02/17/12 08:20 PM
Keep in mind that GOV isn't likely to present a "problem" If can't also present a "solution". Krugman hypothesized that an alien invasion would end the economic doldrums.
Any space-faring species would be able to command energies that could obliterate the planet in a second. GOV isn't likely to offer a "problem" for which there is no solution.
Posted by jlax23 on 02/17/12 08:15 PM
Newt's facebook nazi's love aliens. One of his regular posters likes mentioning aliens in his post, and his page features War of Worlds video clips. Gotta love it.
Posted by thefinancedude on 02/17/12 04:15 PM
I'm waiting for the fake alien battle... both sides are really U.S. black ops... doing their parts... From the depths of the rabbit hole it seems the elite infighting might include differences over control of this technology.
Posted by thefinancedude on 02/17/12 04:13 PM
Waiting for the next shoe? How about italy demanding the Vatican pay taxes? Now isn't the Vatican sovereign? WTF? Oh wait, the same crap that has been dumped on us is coming back full circle... that would be TSH--tingTF :) or the other shoe to drop...
PS... has DB done any followup work regarding THRIVE? Yesterday they brought out the free energy meme and pushed it hard... curious of those gnomes or elves ever got done watching it for a more thorough analysis by DB... just asking :)
Reply from The Daily Bell
We are working on the Thrive thing!
Posted by Henry Pierson on 02/17/12 03:27 PM
It's just amazing what people believe. One would think we were living the 19th century rather than in the 21st. Clearly there are some basic scientific principles that must be violated for life forms to travel at the speed of light or faster; a fact many of your readers might not have taken into consideration. Given that planets having intelligent life, unlike this planet, will be light years away if not hundreds of light years away, it is highly unlikely such life forms would end up here even if they could achieve light speed.
But considering the number of ignorant people and the great many things we hold as cherished beliefs are absolute fantasy the idea that aliens exist among us makes perfect sense. When you think about it, around 90% of our population, here in the US, already believe in an extraterrestrial---God. Perhaps aliens, not airplanes really brought down the WTC.
Posted by Danny B on 02/17/12 11:19 AM
I have to agree with Prometheus. While many of the UFO sightings are undoubtedly terrestrial craft some are not. There have been sightings in every setting imaginable.
If all of these craft were from secret military projects, the pilots wouldn't by flying them willy-nilly over hundreds of towns and highways and byways.
There is no doubt of the existence of the incompressible "aether".
Michelson-Morly proved that it is drifting. Terra sent out a signal with it's first atomic bombs. These signals went at many multiples of the speed of light.
Any advanced civilization would have little need for labor. they would have to find something to keep themselves busy. Like retirees of today, they would travel around to anything that looked interesting. Academics would visit to see what stage of destruction we were at.
I posted 4 links on transmutation on the Gold thread. It can be assumed that advanced civilizations have transmutation and NO need for our resources. In spite of what Rod Serling once postulated, I doubt that other species have any interest in eating us. With several million planets in our [their] galaxy, I suspect that there aren't any shortages of anything,,,, except entertainment.
Sol three is just a quaint little menagerie.
Posted by w a l k - a w a y on 02/17/12 09:45 AM
A few links in support of alien life:
UFOs and the National Security State - The Cover-Up Exposed, 1973-1991
Click to view link
Interview with Catherine Austin Fitts
The $64 Question: What's Up With the Black Budget?
Click to view link
Intervention Theory by Lloyd Pye
Click to view link
and if you really wish to explore the worm hole:
Secret History of The World by Laura Knight-Jadczyk
Click to view link
Posted by terrybee on 02/17/12 09:10 AM
It's never asked or stated that it's just maybe earthlings piloting these saucers.
It is a perfect time to finally try n' pull off a false-flag-Alien event as the whole paradigm is shifting so fast .
The late Jim Keith wrote well on this topic & mind-control.
The bigger the lie, -the less reaction from people :(
Posted by zidek666 on 02/17/12 07:34 AM
Could it be that DB and its elves are really the "greys" observing the folly of boobus homo sapiens nwo?
Posted by Hoschi on 02/17/12 01:53 AM
Agree. Sure, there are some made by people (and yes, DB - there are tractor trails in the fields), but how can you explain dear DB that Crop Circles with a few hundred feet diameter are being created at within minutes!! Did you you ever take a closer look at the perfection of some of these circles? Universities with GPS and what have you tried to replicate them - took them several days and it didn't look nearly as good as the real deal. Check out the " New Swirled Order" on YT. I know the film team personally: they talked on their way to the UK about 2012 (just because), and bang, next day - Crop Circle clearly indicating 2012. Coincidence? NASA secretly listening to a bunch of camera men in a car and promptly delivering a Crop Circle per Satellite ? Don't think so...