Sarah Palin (left) has President Obama in her sights, telling FoxNews.com she "would be willing" to challenge him in the 2012 presidential race. The former Alaska governor, in an interview Saturday on the sidelines of the National Tea Party Convention in Nashville, said President Obama's "lack of experience" has held him back his first year in office and that she would put her credentials up against his any day. "I would be willing to if I believe that it's right for the country," Palin said when asked if she would run for president in 2012. She qualified the statement, adding that she sees "many" other potential candidates who are "in as strong or stronger position than I am to take on the White House and if they're in a better position than I in three years, I'll support them." But the former GOP vice presidential nominee told "Fox News Sunday": "I won't close the door that perhaps could be open for me in the future." ... "I do want competition to allow the cream of the crop to rise (in the GOP contests)," Palin said, adding that her support would translate into everything from donations to campaign rallies. "There are hundreds of candidates on local, state and on the national level that hopefully we'll be able to help." Palin recently endorsed Rand Paul, the son of Texas Rep. Ron Paul, in the GOP primary for U.S. Senate in Kentucky. She said she was attracted to his limited government platform and that she's already donated to the campaign. - Fox News
Dominant Social Theme: A 21st century Joan of Arc?
Free-Market Analysis: Sarah Palin is really a last chance gasp, in our opinion, for the power elite to maintain the integrity of the two-party system in America. We predicted that Palin would run long ago - and that she would set up an alternative political structure in the process. And we received considerable flak, as we recall. But both things are actually happening. Over the weekend, Palin refused to rule out a run for president in 2012 against Barack Obama (who may be unelectable by then anyway) and using the Tea Party movement as a surrogate she's found her third party - though it may not function as a formal entity. See some former articles here:
For the power elite, Palin is a godsend - and perhaps a last chance. The elite's political meme - that the American two-party system is an inevitable construct of national genius - is falling apart day by day. Turns out that despite ten covers on Time Magazine comparing him to FDR, Obama's popularity lasted about as long as one of Roosevelt's famous cigarettes. The elite's expectation that Obama would be able to ram through an incredible amount of domestic socialist legislation including gun control, health care and vastly increased police-state powers is starting to founder along with Obama's personal popularity.
No, Depression-era uber-regulatory solutions are not popular in the 2000s for some reason. Too bad for the elite. Deep-dish statism simply does not bake well in the United States - nor likely will it ever emerge a perfect golden-brown. The culture precludes the implementation of the recipe, and culture is a stubborn thing. After 100 years of trying, the elite STILL has not confiscated guns in the US - ergo much else that is on the menu is either stymied or continually unavailable.
So what do you do? Well, you keep going. You double down. And you try to find someone who can play on the national scene who still has some credibility. It can't be a professional politician - because after George Bush's compassionate conservatism and now Obama's yes-we-can-change, the majority of America does not look fondly on mainstream politics. It can't be someone whose viewpoints are well known, especially in the lower 48, because that's inevitably a turn-off. It has to be a fresh face.
Enter Sarah Palin. Her belief structure is perfect. She is attractive, malleable and has the facility of entertaining contradictory belief systems without acknowledging the cognitive dissonance, even to herself. She no doubt believes the free-market rhetoric she spouts, and from the power-elite's standpoint she's no threat - she's been thoroughly vetted and indoctrinated by the military-industrial complex. Heck, she ran as John McCain's VP, and he's a card-carrying proponent of US military power abroad and at home.
No, Sarah Palin won't likely rock the boat when it comes to the US$500 billion that America spends on the military every year. She'll make all the right noises about the American empire abroad as well, whether or not the US is still embroiled in its overseas' "war on terror." We have no doubt that Palin has given the proper assurance to the powers-that-be regarding these matters - and probably the "integrity" of the US central bank as well. And in return she has a best-selling book, a gig on Fox News and sooner or later a higher national profile than even Barack Obama, if she doesn't already enjoy it.
More and more, Obama is looking like yesterday's news. You want to tango with the power elite, you take your chances. He's going to have a tough time of it the next few years - but that's what he signed up for. And whenever he is "retired" the perks aren't bad. He'll write a book, too, and charge a million a pop (allowing for inflation) for speeches abroad, which is in our estimation a fancy way of laundering money for a job "well done."
Anyway, Palin has done it herself, by virtue of her gutsy personality and personal faith in her destiny, and this makes her all the more dangerous. We don't think the power elite necessarily had its eye on her from the beginning. Sometimes these things are luck (or perhaps not as Rove was apparently involved in her selection). But once she burst on the national stage - bold, brassy and "dumb as a stump" - the elite recognized its chance. A main chance. She was perfect. And so they set to work. Here's the brilliant Naomi Wolfe (from a 2008 Huffington Post article) to describe the rest of it:
Sarah "Evita" Palin, the Muse of the Coming Police State ... I realized early on with horror what I was seeing in Governor Palin: the continuation of the Rove-Cheney cabal, but this time without restraints. I heard her echo Bush 2000 soundbites ("the heart of America is on display") and realized Bush's speechwriters were writing her -- not McCain's -- speeches. I heard her tell George Bush's lies -- not McCain's -- to the American people, linking 9/11 to Iraq. I heard her make fun of Barack Obama for wanting to prevent the torture of prisoners -- this is Rove-Cheney's enthusiastic S and M, not McCain's, who, though he shamefully colluded in the 2006 Military Tribunals Act, is also a former prisoner of war and wrote an eloquent Newsweek piece in 2005 opposing torture. I saw that she was even styled by the same skillful stylist (neutral lipstick, matte makeup, dark colors) who turned Katharine Harris from a mall rat into a stateswoman and who styles all the women in the Bush orbit --but who does not bother to style Cindy McCain. ...
Reports confirmed my suspicions: Palin, not McCain, is the FrankenBarbie of the Rove-Cheney cabal. The strategy became clear. Time magazine reported that Rove is "dialed in" to the McCain campaign. Rove's protégé Steve Schmidt is now campaign manager. And Politico reported that Rove was heavily involved in McCain's vice presidential selection. Finally a new report shows that there are dozens of Bush and Rove operatives surrounding Sarah Palin and orchestrating her every move.
We have to note that Palin's support of Rand Paul is prominently mentioned in the article that began this analysis. Rand Paul, the son of libertarian Congressman Ron Paul, shares his father's point of view about politics. And that view could not be more opposed to Sarah Palin's, so far as we can tell.
Here's what we understand: Rand Paul wants an end to the American empire both abroad and at home, an end to the incessant warring, an end to 16 separate spy agencies, an end to domestic warrantless wiretapping and generally to the escalating lawlessness with which the military-industrial complex is now operating. That's what his father wants too. Neither Rand nor his father should be especially welcome over at the Pentagon. Nor likely are they.
Sarah Palin however still supports her old running mate John McCain and is said to count on the elder Bush as a core advisor. These two elderly gentlemen reside at the heart of the American military-industrial complex. It is impossible to serve two masters in our opinion, at least two that are so opposed. To indicate that one has no difficulty integrating these two entirely opposite socio-political perspectives simply means that either one has not thought through one's core beliefs, or one does not really have any.
We would tend to think Palin is mostly after a main chance. She wants the money and she loves the attention. She is indeed a kind of American "Evita Peron" in our opinion, a nationalist by virtue of her rhetoric ... someone who will speak of American virtues, espouse limited government and freedom but at the same time support the endless expansion of the American military state with all its lawlessness and bloodshed. Did Rand Paul make a mistake in accepting her support or funding?
Conclusion: We are not, despite the above, at all sure of a Palin presidency. At the rate the power elite memes are collapsing, we see why eventually Palin's inherent intellectual contradictions should not become evident and obvious to an increasingly alarmed electorate. No, we are not sure that Sarah "Evita" Palin is a shoe-in. In fact, we are beginning to believe that even the most sacred memes - the phony US war on terror, domestic "security," etc. - will be challenged and tested in the near future given how fast things are moving. And if the two-party system in America should founder, or real republicanism become attractive, then the entire faux-financial system of the West would be at risk including central banking and myriad securities and derivatives markets. It would all, in our opinion, be in danger of unraveling. So watch out investors! Keep track of your memes. It's one reason among many to believe in gold and silver.
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Posted by Ralph J. Monasterio on 2/8/2010 5:30:39 AM
Sarah Palin reminds me of a small school girl...a real BRAT....and hardly AMERICA's CHOICE for President of this great country. She thinks that the few millions of $$$$$ she made out of her book.."Going Rogue" will QUALIFY her to be President. She's in for a great SURPRISE.
President OBAMA had to "BAIL OUT" these big business conglomerates THROUGH DEFICIT SPENDING....because of His Predecesor, George W. Bush, who just sat by the sidelines while these FAT CATS of WALL STREET....got GREEDIER BY THE MINUTE. And now Sarah is blaming Obama for TRYING to save the country. What a TRAMP Sarah has gotten to be.
Posted by George on 2/8/2010 6:30:53 AM
I get a bad feeling about Sarah Palin sometimes. She seems to talk a "good show" but then she'll mention supporting John McCain and then my guts twist. We all know he is a progressive. I think it may have been a mistake for Rand Paul to take her endorsement also. I know the progressives are trying to infiltrate the Tea Party movement.
As far as Obama trying to save the country, he's not trying to save it, he's trying to convert it into something that it's supposed to be and he's using our financial crisis to do it. Personally, I don't think this country uses free market principles anymore. When the government shuts down real solutions like automobile fuel cell technology even though it was ready for mass production, you have to ask yourself why.
No, what we are seeing is a fascist control style governance of mega proportions. People just don't realize it because we've been "nudged" here a little at a time for decades. Now, Obama has kicked it up a notch. They don't want a free market solution to climate change or pollution. The elites would lose control and that's something they can't handle. Well, I've got news for them. It's coming. Change is going to come because the people are demanding it and they're getting louder every day.
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"Now, Obama has kicked it up a notch."
He surely did do that. Good points.
Posted by Doubleguns on 2/8/2010 8:26:38 AM
I think you will see GOOOH giving the 2 party system a big shocker in the vote for House of Representatives this November. The people are angry and ready for change from a 2 party system hell bent on destroying each other even at the country's expense.
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http://goooh.com/
MISSION
GOOOH stands for 'Get Out of Our House' and is pronounced like the word 'go'. It is a NON-PARTISAN plan to evict the 435 career politicians in the U.S. House of Representatives and replace them with everyday Americans just like you.
If you are tired of career politicians, GOOOH is for you. If you believe money has corrupted Washington, GOOOH is for you. If you believe politicians have too much power, GOOOH is for you. If you are weary of the death grip the two parties have on our government, and are ready to return control of our government to the people, then GOOOH is for you.
GOOOH is NOT just another political party. It is a system that will allow you and your neighbors to choose, among yourselves, the person who can best represent your district.
GOOOH is an evolving system and your input is requested. The questions are changing based on the feedback of members just like you. Participate in the forums, take the survey, and send us your thoughts. This is YOUR system. We will perfect it with your input.
GOOOH is a new system that will allow "we the people" to select true representatives, not choose between a Democrat and a Republican. If we continue to elect career politicians who represent their party, the special interests that fund them, and themselves, nothing will change. GOOOH is a non-partisan process that will allow us to effect the change we all know we need.
GOOOH will allow you to:
Help select your Representative - while being considered yourself Hold your Representative accountable Replace career politicians - with true representatives Take the money out of the process The GOOOH process allows Americans of every political leaning to participate in the selection of their District's Representative while being considered themselves. Through GOOOH's Candidate Selection Sessions you and your peers will select the candidate in your district who best represents your district's views. Even if you do not wish to become your district's representative you will want to participate in the process and have a direct say in who is chosen to represent your district. GOOOH will fund a single national campaign to promote the 435 candidates (one from each district) who are selected to run against the party politicians. Because GOOOH is a process for selecting representatives (not an agenda-based party platform) we expect a person left of center to be selected in San Francisco and one right of center in Colorado Springs -- but it will be up to the GOOOH members in each district to decide.
Posted by Ohh on 2/8/2010 8:40:02 AM
Oh, Bell did you know this was on her agenda ...
Palin beating drums of war on Iran
Mon, 08 Feb 2010 07:45:27 GMT
Palin said that "it would be absurd" for her to rule out running for president in 2012.US conservative darling Sarah Palin says she thinks President Barack Obama should declare war on Iran. The one-time Republican vice presidential candidate said in an interview with Fox News that Obama should play the war card if he wants to get re-elected in 2012. "Say he decided to declare war on Iran or decided really to come out and do whatever he could to support Israel, which I would like him to do," she said on Sunday.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=118150
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Posted by Daniel Ajamian on 2/8/2010 9:55:05 AM
A couple of comments: (I wouldn't normally use the first names, but it is the easiest way to differentiate father and son).
1) "We have to note that Palin's support of Rand Paul is prominently mentioned in the article that began this analysis."
This is a safe way for the establishment to attempt to corral / co-opt the Ron Paul movement. Ron may be a viable candidate in 2012, Rand won't. So co-opt the Ron Paul phenomenon via the "safe" Paul.
This was done in the 2008 election, when the Libertarian Party chose Bob Barr to run as opposed to a more consistent candidate on freedom and liberty. This ensured that the Ron Paul movement had no outlet other than a write-in vote for Dr. Paul himself.
Obviously, Palin is playing the same role in the Tea Party movement, a movement arguably started by Ron Paul devotee's (at least as certain as any other explanation). Those in power know that the freedom movement will not passionately support Palin.
2) "Did Rand Paul make a mistake in accepting her support or funding?" If he handles this right, it is no mistake. If he is truly like his father, when asked about the support from Palin he will clearly explain and differentiate his views as to hers.
Ron Paul was often asked about some very fringe endorsements. He would reply to the effect of, "I can't control if other people want to support me, and if they want to give me money to support MY objectives and think I will change, then I guess they are wasting their money." And it was clear that outside support didn't change Ron's philosophically consistent views.
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Yet perhaps in this case the issue is not whether Rand Paul is going to "change" but how effectively Sarah Palin USES her support of Rand Paul to effectively blur her own contradictory political stances.
Posted by Phil W on 2/8/2010 10:13:10 AM
Glad to see that not many are fooled by Palin. The problem is that the control of the GOP needs to be wrested from the knee jerk neocons who fail to understand the principles behind the Constitution. They understand the threat behind the tea party movement but are only interested in co-opting it, not in embracing the ideals of liberty, freedom and limited government.
Posted by Kp on 2/8/2010 10:34:55 AM
Yes why don't we all vote for third party candidates and pull just enough Republican voters away to keep the Demos in office. By God we will show them. Think Ross Perot.
Posted by Dick Cone on 2/8/2010 10:50:59 AM
Methinks thou dost protest too much!
The Tea Party folks understand what she's all about I think. At least I do and I have no problem at all knowing precisely what my world view is. From the article either you didn't listen to the speech or your cynical view of Sarah Palin has clouded your opinion on this one. There are many shades of worldview even among those you might think would be able to coalesce around major themes.
Here are examples: Beck endorses the apolyptic view which others of us reject while appreciating his explanation of collectivist philosophy for those who never grasped it.
Ed Griffen can be admired by covenantalists while not accepting his staunch libertarian position that requires an oath to his cause (see his website). That view accepts the dualistic theme of collectivist vs libertarian without seeing there is a third position.
Sarah Palin is certainly no collectivist nor is she libertarian so she is in that vast area where people are working out their world view by seeking a comprehensive covenantal view that includes the individual and the state without doing violence to either.
That was a major viewpoint at the time the founders formed our republic. It stands against statist thought originating with the Greek philosophers. So I very much appreciate the Bell, but will stand my ground for the viewpoint that is comprehensive, requires personal responsibility and avoids the cult of personality centered around certain self appointed elites.
It takes that to make a republic work and there is a place for everybody who wants to participate in that goal regardless of party or the right to remain independent of party until it clearly supports the American republican form of government free from elitism.
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You write eloquently and from an informed point of view. But we are Jeffersonians as well as libertarians and it is fairly clear that Jefferson warned against "foreign entanglements." He didn't do such a good job during his own presidency, but the warning stands.
Certainly, despite Ms. Palin's sentiments, there is little we can find to justify a US$1 trillion military industrial complex with all its accoutrements and domestic spying apparatus. It is, in fact, late in the game for Ms. Palin to be "working out her world view" - and we, too, stand our ground as regards her ill-thought-out militarism and apparent affection for the growing US police state. Just yesterday she seems to have declared war on Iran.
See: http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=118150
Posted by Sean M on 2/8/2010 11:09:22 AM
KP you don't know what you are talking about thinking GOOOH will split the vote for the House elections. I would recommend you very closely at GOOOH and the details of their strategy before you go around criticizing the plan. We have done our homework and have designed the system to protect from splitting the vote. Not that it might not happen in a district or two, but we will not go blindly into a district that we might split the vote.
Posted by Frank Ross on 2/8/2010 12:21:55 PM
Evita or Isabela Peron? That's an important question. Think about it. Or is she a Kirchner? Maybe that's more along the lines of a Hillary Clinton. Will she challenge a beaten Obama in 2012 like Kennedy vs. Carter in 1980. Maybe I am a pessimist but I see Argentina as the template for the US and many European countries. A pretty nice place to live if you are rich, but the increase in crime is troubling.
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Evita or Isabela? The point is she is appealing as a populist candidate however it turns out.
Posted by TMoore on 2/8/2010 12:31:18 PM
Her endorsement of Rick Perry for governor was all I needed to know about Mrs. Palin to understand that she is just more of the same political power structure.
We are living in the Truman Show...
Posted by Adrian W on 2/8/2010 2:10:33 PM
I guess you can't blame the Elite for trying. They'll have to dig deep into their bag of tricksters to pull the next election off, legally. The good cop/bad cop scenario didn't play out too well with the last couple of presidents. So, maybe they're correct in going with the Ronald McDonald approach. Appeal to the voting majority. With a slogan, "A Happy Meal in everyone's tummy". A silly, fresh face that can draw the most votes from the non-intellectual superficial voters.
A vote for Sarah is a non-vote for a Ron Paul. Perhaps, the next false flag terrorist attack on America (see 9/11 controversies) will work in persuading just enough ignorant and fearful voters onto the Obama ticket.
Again, a vote for Obama is a non-vote for a Ron Paul. Divide an conquer is a theme that the elite have played out well in the past.
Posted by Glenn Williams on 2/8/2010 2:11:39 PM
I like the way the tea party movement has crossed party lines, energizing a lot of different people from different backgrounds. Notably they want less government involvement in their day to day business. I would love to see Ron Paul in charge rather than Sarah Palin, then maybe they would have a chance of success to run this country.
Posted by Art Solvason on 2/8/2010 2:38:07 PM
Enjoyed the article immensely, but the comments were even better than "normal!"
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Our readers tend to have extraordinarily high IQs - not that it makes any real difference.
Nice article. Let me add a bit. When Palin made her speech during the Tea Party convention in Nashville, she opened a lot of eyes to the fact that she doesn't support liberty. On many of the Liberty blogs and radio programs they are exposing her as the neocon she demonstrated to be in Nashville.
There is nothing Rogue about her. If the neocons do take over the tea party, then those who are pro-liberty will simply pull out and leave her with an empty husk.
There are better candidates out there. I would rather have a dead Ron Paul than a live demopublican candidate anyday. Liberty is the goal. It can not be fostered nor protected in government. It can only be properly defended and propagated by the individual. Let's end this fraudulent and murderous experiment called government.
Love Liberty,
Rebecca Ioccawww.iocca.us
Posted by Eric Parks on 2/8/2010 6:35:25 PM
The tea party started with the remnant finding and supporting Ron Paul. While I don't doubt that the elites will try their usual co-opting of a movement, the remnant aren't loyal to a movement anymore but, rather, in proven, principled, candidates.
Palin is a neocon and not considered viable in the view of the original tea party members. If this means that the GOP wants to run neocons and lose due to an absolute refusal by the libertarians and free thinkers who have had enough of their lies, then so be it.
It's not as if the neocons are any better in our eyes. We will simply vote third party or abstain from the process altogether. They can't win without us. Their options are to either move toward and embrace the socialist agenda already espoused by the progressive democrats (if so, why should anyone vote for them when they can get the same from the dems?) or they can make large concessions (read: running proven libertarian minded candidates) to those who believe in liberty - offering a clear choice at the ballot box.
In my mind, with the Austrian school finding traction due to this entire financial mess, the GOP would be wise to lean our way.
Posted by Duane Bass on 2/8/2010 6:51:37 PM
While I can certainly agree to a lot of what Sarah says, I do not think she is Presidential material. That simple!
Posted by Shawn on 2/8/2010 7:13:20 PM
Mrs. Palin is making a lot of noise and polishing up her act. She my be sincerely dumb but she is a natural manipulator. There is a hugh segment of the population that will vote for her.
Just as Scott Brown won because the other choice was so weak. She has her name all over the Tea Party now and if not the damage has been done, she said everything they wanted to hear and will be perceived to be part of it.
With the endorsement of Rand Paul, her views by the uninformed will be associated with Ron Paul's and a favor is in order. No Mrs Palin has a future, she has the confidence and likes the limelight. Lets face the facts there is a limited choice of good people to do the job and the masses are not looking for some one with depth, its a pretty talking head they vote for and Palin's a women to boot, many will think its time for women to be president, just that fact I think gets her a shot a being elected.
Obama is a social worker with no experience the only reason he was elected is because it was the democrats turn, he is black, pretty, and can read well. Period.I have read both their books and they are childish promotions. I can't understand who would believe them. Sorry correction I could finnish hers it was really bad.
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Probably not many have read both!
Posted by Ron Depke on 2/8/2010 7:24:48 PM
The same people who paid for the NeoCon movement are paying to "organize" the Tea Party movement... right back into Republican Party clutches. They've got deep pockets and can throw a lot of money at the fledgling Tea Party organizers. They see what's coming and they know it won't be pretty for either party. Better to get a foot in the door now.
Either way, I don't think this power grab works out for them. If the elites continue down this path they'll split their own ticket. That'll work out great for the Democrats. But, the Republicans are so desperate to not let 2008 happen again that they're willing to grasp at that straw.The Tea Party or any other Liberty-minded party will go nowhere without Ron Paul's approval.
There is only one man who carries the respect and devotion of the Freedom movement. He's been consistent all his life. When the elites throw us a goof like Sarah Palin we know the difference.
Here's how to handle this new NeoCon end-around. When a few Republican has-beens eventually try to jump aboard, smile warmly, thank them for their support, but don't vote for anyone who's held a public office above Town Dog Catcher. Just vote them all out!
Posted by TMoore on 2/8/2010 9:28:56 PM
Would the Bell consider the near obsessive concern regarding "identity theft" a dominant social theme? Based on the paradigm of fear it may serve several functions useful to the PTB including, but not necessarily limited to
a. Fostering a self-reinforcing mutual distrust among the polity-think Stalinist Russia.
b. Enhancing the "voluntary" surrender of more data that will, paradoxically, make individuals less safe.
Sorry about this being off topic, but I could not find another way to submit this...
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Great point in our estimation. Currently, however, would tend to see identity theft as something of a minor meme (a mini-meme?) at least for the moment.
We think food and water shortages may be played up as the next big dominant social themes, or at least they would have been if not for the apparent collapse of the global warming promotion.
You know, it seems the symphony is rapidly falling out of tune, making the seamless presentation of additional dominant social themes more difficult. ...
Posted by @Dick Cone on 2/8/2010 10:15:29 PM
Dick Cone, you're an overblown wind-bag. And when you're on your knees protesting your fate... I hope someone kicks the [tar] out of you.
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Posted by Skrag on 2/8/2010 11:07:31 PM
LMAO. Wonderful as always. Keep up the excellent work.
PS - Palin on the fed: "Glenn I think people like you are doing a great job talking about the Fed, and the fact that few people with your prominent position are talking about it is a good thing.
"http://www.dailypaul.com/node/121474
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Great insights, eh? Thanks for the link.
Posted by Seadragonconquerer on 2/8/2010 11:23:00 PM
Precisely because she can and will rope in most of the teabags, Palin will go for and get the Republicrat Prez nomination in '12. As for me, I plan to vote for the first Mayan I see, and am already investing heavily in silver...bullets.
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