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China in Secret Chaos?

Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - by Staff Report


Who matters in the world's second-largest financial system is barely understood Feb 4th 2010. From being a rounding error a decade ago, the financial clout of China now trails only that of America. By market capitalisation, it has three of the four largest banks, the two largest insurance companies, the second-largest stockmarket and a lengthening list of investment funds. Yet who makes the decisions in China is barely understood. The government and the Communist Party are intimately entwined with the managers of China's financial institutions. Working out who is really in charge is almost impossible. Even attempting to do so takes you into sensitive territory. Disclosing information about how the Chinese government works risks violating nebulous secrecy laws or sacrificing business opportunities. Many China-watchers will only speak face to face, concerned about using e-mails or phone calls to discuss what, in the West, would be standard chatter about the status of bankers and their supervisors. - Economist

Dominant Social Theme: China must grow up.

Free-Market Analysis: So the Economist editorial staff finally admits what has been increasingly obvious as China "evolves" - that it has nothing resembling a free-market system at the top. We've written just this thing a number of times, but the amount of wrongheaded discussion (from our point of view) about China and its powerful economy is truly amazing. In fact China has privatized in numerous ways, but most of the privatization has taken place in the arena of fruit markets and taxicab stands. When it comes to large financial entities and, generally, large businesses, China is still controlled from the top down. Here's what we wrote not so long ago about China:

The Chinese bubble has not yet burst - it has been inflating for many years - but there aren't a whole lot of articles being written about the Chinese miracle anymore. ... A Chinese growth rate of 10 percent or more PER QUARTER year in and year out [is] not a testament to vibrant management but to unbridled money printing. The Chinese people as a whole are entrepreneurial and hard working, and the "people's part" of the economy has truly been privatized. But when it comes to its larger financial sector, the Chinese government has adopted wholesale the socialist mixed management of Western nations - especially the United States.

Despite the similarities, there are differences between Western and Chinese economic practices that are likely far more specific than are being reported. Fifty years ago China was still treating its educated classes as the enemy and sending them to prison. It is only in the past 25 years or so that China has made significant progress from a "modernization" standpoint. But if you read articles today in most major mainstream publications, you will find that this 25-year overlay is ignored. Instead, Chinese fledgling financial institutions are treated as the equivalent of Western counterparts.

The only part of the above we might change is the statement at the end of the excerpt implying that Western financial institutions are somehow superior to Asian ones. It is true that Western financial institutions nominally have more independence. But when one examines who controls Western money stuff, and the mercantilist interactions generally between Western banking interests and their nominal governments, it becomes fairly obvious that a small group of men are fairly well in charge just as in China.

Yes, we would argue that the Western system at this point in time is not much "freer" than the Chinese system in terms of the end result. Money stuff is still controlled by tightly vested public/private interests - and it is money itself that matters. Control the production of money and you have created a top-down, controlled economy, whether one wishes to admit it or not. Compare the Anglo-American dominated West to China - given the current central banking economy - and you will end up arguing about degrees of control in our opinion rather than whether the two systems are truly dissimilar.

One could argue that the West's financial systems are becoming less free and more concentrated as the century-long central banking era continues. Central banking itself tends ineluctably to more and more centralization of money power and eventually the Western and Asian systems will be more alike in practice as well as opaqueness. Seems to us the whole China story is something of a dominant social theme, the idea of which is to convince the Western investor - and citizens as well - that the world is "global" and capitalism is interlinked around the world.

So why is the Economist going on record to contradict that sort of promotion? Perhaps the China miracle is starting to unravel and, if so, there's no use in continuing to play a melody that is soon to go out of style or at least become discordant.

Conclusion: Those who are thinking of making China bets, or wondering generally if the world can sustain even the limited market-based recovery it has apparently experienced, ought to investigate what's going on fairly carefully. China is an integral part of the world scene right now, yet its economy is in a sense as rigid and backwards as the USSR's once was. Paper money printing is merely covering up this unpleasant fact. Of course, the success that China has is also due to the entrepreneurial spirit of its people, sooner or later, those in charge of the printing presses will discover they've pushed too far. Like a balloon the economy pops. When it does pop, we would anticipate a social upheaval that will make the EU's seem tame by comparison.


Dr. Ron PaulNOTED: From the Ron Paul Campaign for Liberty ... Last year, Campaign for Liberty made a big impact at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC). This year, we're looking to show the political establishment that the freedom movement is stronger than ever! Taking place February 18-20 in Washington, D.C., CPAC's three-day series of events will bring together thousands of conservative and libertarian activists. In addition to the C4L volunteers who are coming in from all across the country to help us spread our message, we've assembled a top-notch roster of speakers who will be participating in a wide variety of activities, including panel discussions, speeches, book signings, and private briefings. (Ed Note: This isn't a dominant social theme per se - but if anyone has led the fight against the power elite's fear-based promotions, it's Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex).)

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Posted by Hubbub on 2/9/2010 7:41:29 AM

China ... a big bubble!

Posted by Puppypaper on 2/9/2010 11:53:52 AM

Don't read the economist anymore.

Posted by Tawny on 2/9/2010 12:28:12 PM

Very interesting article/analysis. Re a Chinese 'bubble' in the making, I saw a couple of videos a week or so ago showing huge empty new malls in China, and pretty empty whole new cities.

Also read that China govt. has been giving consumers 'rebates' on major purchases, which article pictured a happy Chinese purchaser saying how 'good' the economy was - the usual indicator of a printing-press bubble being blown.

Japan also seems to be in trouble with high debt to GNP ratio. Chao seems to be looming and lurking, East as well as West -- remains to be seen what sort of Ordo will emerge from the wreckage. Whatever that Ordo might be, it is the disorder of a 'major discontinuity' that many of us are uneasily anticipating...


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Thanks. Central banking seems inevitably to lead to fiat money. And fiat money is inherently unstable and may degrade fairly quickly. And it seems to be.

Posted by Mark Y on 2/9/2010 12:34:09 PM

Your "Noted" regarding Ron Paul at the end of this piece hits the nail on the head. The US political situation is obviously at some sort of a crossroad. The Democratic Party has become an undiluted representative of the moneyed elite's political agenda of welfare-warfare-tax-corporatism. The Republican Party is a dead reeking carcass of the Goldwater/Reagan Constitutional Conservative movement.

Probably the most pathetic thing about the Republican Party is that its spokesman and its ideological leaders are talk show hosts such as Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh who are in reality entertainers driven by ratings and their corporate owned broadcast stations.

Sadly, Levin, who actually is a Constitutional lawyer is getting more and more calls from people expressing freedom based viewpoints and all he can do is rant at them, hang up on them, and then call them names and state that they must be followers of that "idiot Ron Paul."

Where is the US headed politically? Hopefully towards the freedom movement and the Ron Paul brand of Constitutional Republicanism! Interestingly, Paul seems to be the elected Republican most often seen lately on broadcast news shows- probably because he is the only elected Republican that has anything to say that can hold a listeners attention!

The other elected Republicans are either just Democrats-light or confused jibber jabberers such as Palin or McCain.


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"Probably the most pathetic thing about the Republican Party is that its spokesman and its ideological leaders are talk show hosts such as Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh who are in reality entertainers driven by ratings and their corporate owned broadcast stations."

Limbaugh has spent the past 20 years talking about US free-markets while avoiding any mention of the Federal Reserve or the military-industrial complex. Levin is generally horrid - an endless disappointment because he seems to understand constitutional law but then makes such poor use of what he knows.

Posted by SAM on 2/9/2010 3:45:50 PM

"Working out who is really in charge is almost impossible. Even attempting to do so takes you into sensitive territory. Disclosing information about how the Chinese government works risks violating nebulous secrecy laws or sacrificing business opportunities."How is THAT different from the United States?


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Well put. The point we were trying to make.

Posted by Shawn on 2/9/2010 4:42:26 PM

Ron Paul is an important leader of the freedom movement, my family and I are Canadians and have sent Ron Paul a donation to his campaign. We would like to encourage everyone to the same.

Posted by Shawn on 2/9/2010 8:38:02 PM

China is manipulating their economy as is the West, the common observation of today seems to be there is not much difference in the two worlds. China is a power house that is growing at an astonishing rate and is building a sustainable middle class the largest in the world. The numbers regarding the Chinese economy are making the rest of the world look like its moving backwards.

The Chinese are making moves world wide that will have serious effects on the West, militarily and economically. The West is not even sure how many people live in the country, China says it has a population of 1.3 billion but experts think it is as high as 1.6 billion.

Taiwan is going to be a tipping point in China-USA relations in the next few years. The USA active in many wars in the Middle East will allow China to make moves, a military takeover of Taiwan to start with. The oil in the sea of Japan will be the next big target, the Chinese are making deals with all the USA's enemies unabashedly.

In the next few years China with have more nuclear submarines than the USA. The West needs China to support the world economy and China needs a market, but when the bubble breaks the fallout will dwarf anything in the past.

China's build up of sophisticated weapons and well trained soldiers is the fastest since World War II, for what? There is no love lost between China and the region and a economic breakdown in China would be the catalyst for war throughout the region. Something big is brewing absolutely and the West doesn't know what it is because the Chinese can keep secrets.

Posted by TeresaE on 2/12/2010 9:56:05 PM

Nice piece.To borrow from Shawn's post, "...West doesn't know what it is because the Chinese can keep secrets..."I would alter that to, "The West doesn't know because our PTB don't want to bite the hand that feeds them."

Decision coming from Washington have been blatantly favoring China for a long time. Quick perusals of tariffs and excise tax law passed since the Clinton days should point that out quite nicely. Our government has been busy passing tax law that takes from American job creators and gifts the playing field, jobs and profits to China.

As Grandpa taught me, follow the dollar. And the dollars flow from our pockets, to China, then back to the US Treasury.Well, they did. Not so much now. Wonder how long before China shows us we are no longer needed? From the Treasury auctions over the past year, not much longer I fear.

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