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Are U.S. Taxpayers Bailing Out Greece?

Saturday, February 20, 2010 – by Ron Paul

Dr. Ron Paul

Last week we were reminded that ours is not the only country suffering from severe economic turmoil. The Greek government is the latest to come close to default on their massive public debt. Greece has insufficient funds in their treasury to make even the minimum payments that are now coming due. Their debt level is about 120 percent of their gross domestic product and their public sector absorbs what amounts to 40 percent of GDP. Any talk of cutting costs and spending is met with violent protests from the many Greeks heavily dependent on government payments. Mounting fears of default have sent shockwaves through their creditors and all of the eurozone countries.

But there have been statements made by the European Central Bank to calm fears and give assurances that Greece will get the aid it needs. Details of agreements are not forthcoming.

Is it possible that our Federal Reserve has had some hand in bailing out Greece? The fact is, we don't know, and current laws exempt agreements between the Fed and foreign central banks from disclosure or audit.

Greece is only the latest in a series of countries that have faced this type of crisis in recent memory. Not too long ago the same types of fears were mounting about Dubai, and before that, Iceland. Several other countries (Spain, Portugal, Ireland, Latvia) are approaching crisis levels with public debt as well. Many have strong ties to Goldman Sachs and the case could easily be made that default could have serious implications for big US banking cartels. Considering the ties between the Fed and these big banks, it is not outlandish to wonder if the US taxpayer is secretly bailing out the entire world, country by country, even as our real unemployment tops 20 percent. Unless laws are changed to allow a complete and meaningful audit of the Federal Reserve, including its agreements with foreign central banks, we might never know if this is occurring or not.

This global financial crisis is a predictable result of secretive central banking and unsound fiat currency. Governments are entirely committed to this system of fiat money and fractional reserve banking for obvious reasons: it enables them to do what they love most, namely, spend hoards of money with near impunity. Without the limitations of sound money, governments will spend without limit. They will spend money to hire their cronies, pay off special interests, give out favors, create dependence and generally distract from the terrible job they do at their chief mandate, which is to protect the liberties of the people. Fiat money is a blank check to government, which is very dangerous, and we are witnessing the death throes of the system as the bills come due and the underlying capital is squandered away.

Because of our globe-straddling empire and lingering reserve currency status, perhaps no one has a more vested interest in keeping this system cobbled together than our own government and the Federal Reserve. The agreements that Iceland and Dubai and Greece have negotiated can amount to little more than kicking the can down the road, as their overall spending habits remain largely intact, fiat currencies are still legal tender and more debt is issued on top of unsustainable debt. The American people have the right to know if they are going to be the ones holding the bag in the end because the Federal Reserve secretly put them on the hook for it. This knowledge would be a key factor in peacefully dismantling this immoral and unconstitutional system.




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  Posted by Puzzled on 04/23/10 03:29 AM

I have been drawn to The Bell. Now that I know the contributors, I understand! I was certain that it wasn't one person. I applaud you all! And Dr. Paul, if you can use help in the next election, ask what you will of time or work. You can e-mail. I believe in your platform!

  Posted by Bowman on 02/28/10 05:39 PM

Ron Paul, the T. Jeffersonian of our time.

  Posted by J. Murphy on 02/24/10 03:10 PM

I was just watching you (Ron Paul) question Beranke during his(Bernake's) address to congress (2/24/10) and R.P. asked Beranke plainly if the Fed. had planned on bailing out Greece or if there were meeting/discussions to that effect.

Of course, Bernake said no, but what was interesting was your (Ron Paul's) smile as you seemed to think he caught Bernake in something. Is this correct? Also Congress.

Franke added he would support investigating the Fed possibly bailing out other countries in years past which caused another reaction from you...Very funny!

Reply from The Daily Bell

Ron Paul has written - here and elsewhere - of his suspicions regarding the Fed and Greece. If he were smiling, it may be he simply thinks Bernanke is not telling the truth.

  Posted by Watcher on 02/22/10 09:41 PM

The Federal Reserve has more than just the power to print money. It has the power to decide how to spend it. This makes a mockery of Congress's supposedly exclusive authority to appropriate funds for government spending.

  Posted by Bob Pastor on 02/21/10 05:36 PM

Bravo Ron Paul. You are the brightest light in this benightedworld. The Fed is unconstitutional and the "conservatives"should be all together in calling for its dismantling but they are not because big money runs our country. Vote Ron Paul.

  Posted by Bowman on 02/21/10 01:28 PM

I was both wonder struck and very happy to see that Ron Paul had won the straw poll at the CPAC convention in D.C. with 33 of the vote. The runner up was Mitt Romney with 22, while Sarah Palin had just 7. I truly believe things are changing when conversatives choose a Libertarian as their choice for Prsident of America. I know there were a lot of tea party members attending, but, the margin of the voting is very indicative of the changing of the old guard establishment, with true Jeffersonian ideals.I truly believe this is a victory for Ron Paul and freedom lovers every where and will prove to be a major triumph for America.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Yes, we noticed some mainstream journos didn't seem to quite know how to report on it ...

  Posted by James Downey on 02/21/10 10:26 AM

When will someone other than a few listen to this man. The elites have lost their fiat global warming scam with carbon credits and just continue to push snow with a big plow that soon, will not be able to push higher and higher amounts of fake (fiat) paper.

I only wish that he added the live and let die aspect of our bailout policy. We save the losers at the expense of those with new innovations and management techniques that will eliminate waste and create jobs.

  Posted by Duane Bass on 02/21/10 07:10 AM

I to, am Fed up with the Fed. They are being fed way to much power. . . Time for a starvation diet of gold standard. . . Just a thought I had. . .

  Posted by Charles In Florida on 02/21/10 01:02 AM

The Constitution does not need to be reformed. It needs to be followed. A United States Dollar is defined as a set amount of silver and not a piece of paper printed by the private bank called the Federal Reserve.

  Posted by Bruce on 02/20/10 10:38 PM

What I am saying is that government exists at the local level. It is at the local level that you decide whether or not you will allow a federal bureaucracy to control your community.

There is a new movement to reassert the authority of the Sheriff over all agents of government, including the fed. It's about time.

A republic in control of public utilities (roads etc.) and charged with the duty of protecting private rights is probably the best form of official government. However, when there no longer is private property (truly free untaxed property) and private individuals (ones who have no duty to the state [tax service or otherwise] as they are not on the dole somehow --U.S. Supp. Ct. Hale v Henkel), it really doesn't matter what you call the form of government because as a matter of function they are all the same -- tyrannical.

  Posted by Bruce on 02/20/10 07:50 PM

Re-public = the public thing.

It describes property held in trust for the common good. It implies that there is also property which is not public. Said property would be private. When most of the property is held privately, and little is held in common as public property, you have a free society.

When most or all property is held in the public realm you have dictatorship regardless of the form of administering the property.

Private property is not within the public realm, it is not within the republic. Property held in the public domain is "within" the republic.

In the context of what is held in common within the public domain, a republic, a monarchy, and a democracy are nearly identical.

All rely upon an oligarchy to administer the property held in public trust.

Enter the citizen. Citizen = subject.

Free people are not citizens. Citizens are property of the public trust.

No constitution, or enactment of Congress for that matter, can change a nation.

People make up a nation. What people believe determines their actions. When most people believe the documents and decrees of others will change their lives and behavior, it does.

A free society will emerge when people begin to think for themselves about the fundamentals of law, and stop relying upon perceptions and opinions which have been painstakingly taught them for the purpose of controlling their behavior.

Reply from The Daily Bell

So you don't believe the form of government matters. It is all about what the individual perceives. OK. But anarcho-libertarian, or not, we might tend to believe that a form of minimalist republican government is the best that can be hoped for.

  Posted by Snowman on 02/20/10 05:29 PM

The discussion regarding the better form of government, monarchy versus democracy, is rather a moot point since either may digress into a dictatorship or anarchy.

The Bell's question regarding a Republic is of course on spot, and our founding fathers knew this. A Republic requires an alert and knowledgeable citizenry in order to assure its continued existence through a constitution that effectively defines and separates the necessary duties/powers of government.

The year 1913 was the year of infamy for the USA and much of our citizenry understands the problem with the IRS (Amendment XVI in Feb.) and the relinquishment of the portion of Section. 8 in Article. 1 that deals with the coinage and value of money to a cartel of international bankers known as The Federal Reserve in Dec. of that year.

What is not referred to, or correlated by the populace, was the passage of Amendment XVII in April of that year that effectively ripped the heart out of The Constitution. This move fundamentally transformed us into a Democracy, eliminated States Rights, and gave complete control of our government to the cartel.

Reply from The Daily Bell

"Coincidence?"

  Posted by Georgia Hamblin on 02/20/10 04:52 PM

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802, " I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Goldman Sachs being in bed with the Federal Government should give us some real cause for concern!!!

  Posted by Klaus Engelmann on 02/20/10 04:15 PM

Thank you Dr. Paul, the citizens of the USA must take back the government as recommended by Thomas Jefferson. There must be a strictadherence to the constitution.

What that means is the government will do far less than it does now. Our government has been bastardized and distorted so much that the founding fathers would not recognize it.

  Posted by Norm on 02/20/10 04:03 PM

Suckers ...

  Posted by Joe D on 02/20/10 12:22 PM

Key words here are Goldman Sachs too close a relationship between them and the former Sec of the Treasury. Also time to revisit the law that set up the FED it was set while we were on the Gold Standard which is no longer the case

  Posted by Bowman on 02/20/10 11:54 AM

One of the first steps toward stripping the Federal Reserve and central baking of it's abusive power is to eliminate the progressive Federal income tax, and abolish most, if not all of the IRS.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Well put.

  Posted by Floyd on 02/20/10 09:17 AM

What more do we need to be told other than Benanke's statement to the court in response to Ron Paul's attempt to audit the Fed.

He said something to the effect that if the taxpayers knew what the Fed was doing it would derail consumer confidence.

P.S.(If indeed there's any left)

  Posted by Gul on 02/20/10 09:03 AM

Dr. Ron Paul may not be a Constitutional Law Professor, however he has a better understanding of the Constitution than thousands of Professors claiming to be well versed in the Constitution. Add to his understanding of the Constitution, his trust in Free Market Economics makes him one of the rarest leaders in the World. God Bless Him. Thanks, Daily Bell for your allowing us the insight into the thinking of such leaders.

  Posted by Jj on 02/20/10 08:51 AM

Democracy is part of the problem.

Personal Rule by a Monarch has always been the best protection from Bankers.

Democracy is prone to easy manipulation and control in contrast. This is why the Bankers insist on Democracy where ever they invade.

Ron Paul is sophisticated, but he still insists that 9/11 was done by Al Qaeda.

Reply from The Daily Bell

Very good! Your point about monarchy vs democracy is most controversial and most insightful. It is an unresolved argument that lurks at the heart of modern libertarian thought.

In a democracy, much is "public" or unowned. Not so, perhaps, in a monarchy. (Thus, the tragedy of the commons is avoided.) A better question to consider might be whether a REPUBLICAN (limited) form of government is superior to a monarchy. And which is more sustainable.

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