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Property Rights and Gun Rights

Saturday, March 06, 2010 – by  Dr. Tibor Machan


Dr. Tibor Machan

Over the years the distinction between public and private spaces has become obscured. Which is why Starbucks is finding it so difficult to insist that customers do not carry weapons while in their establishment. It is because over the last several decades a doctrine of public accommodation has developed in the law such that when some area is adjacent to a public sphere — a street or road or park — it no longer enjoys private property rights, the authority to determine what happens there.

It all came about because of the impatience with racially discriminatory merchants and costumers. If they were understood as having firm private property rights, they would have to have their racist practices protected by law, which the courts were unwilling to sanction (unlike the protection of porn!). In particular, in a decision by the United States Supreme Court, handed down invalidating a law enacted by referendum in California pertaining to the right of people to sell their property to whomever they choose, Justice Byron White explained that the California law (Art. I, Sec. 26) enacted via Proposition 14 (in 1964) "authorized private discrimination," even though, he added dubiously, only "encouraging, rather than commanding" it. (Actually it only tolerated it!) He added:

The right to discriminate, including the right to discriminate on racial grounds, was now embodied in the state's basic charter, immune from legislative, executive, or judicial regulation at any level of the state government.

And for him, a loyal modern liberal justice, that was unacceptable! Yet that is exactly what is entailed in the notion of a right — its exercise, wisely or unwisely, is shielded from others' interference. Justice White himself made this evident, albeit disapprovingly, when he observed: "Those practicing racial discrimination need no longer rely solely on their personal choice. They could now invoke express constitutional authority, free from censure or interference of any kind from official source". And what's wrong with that? It's the same with everything else objectionable the constitution protects, such a flag burning.

Notice that by prohibiting racial discrimination as a matter of legal mandate, the court removed the issue from the realm of morality or ethics. How could one freely make a personal choice to discriminate (or not) if government has the legitimate power to stop one from discriminating not as a government official but as a private citizen, within one's private domain? If I want to restrict the potential buyers of my home to only Mormons or White Protestants or Hungarian refugees, that ought to be my business, no one else's. But no, the Supreme Court of the supposedly freest country of the world chose to prohibit bad choices by its citizens. That is exactly like censorship by the government, plain and simple. And recall how so many American commentators were appalled at how Muslims reacted to the Danish cartoons that made fun of Islam! For Muslims what the cartoonists and the papers that published them did was every bit as awful as racial discrimination was to Justice White and his colleagues on the Supreme Court.

Now back to Starbucks and gun rights. Turns out that because the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects individual Americans who want to own and carry firearms, this now means Starbucks isn't free to decide about whether its costumers may do so in its coffee shops. Why? Because these shops are "affected with the public interest," because they are located on streets which are public spheres and because government regulates them. Here are proprietors who want to apply their own, possibly sound standards of safety within the establishment they own and aren't permitted to do so because, well, the property is no longer deemed to be really theirs at all but part of the public sphere (square).

Slowly and surely everything in the country will come under public — that is, government — jurisdiction, treated as if it were a courthouse or some other sphere where public administration goes on. The logic of the slippery slope is inescapable here. Moreover, if public officials make bad decisions, they will drag the entire country down since there will not be any private sphere left where those, like the owners of Starbucks, could institute practices that could well make better sense than what the public officials insist everyone must adopt.

One of the ways a free society deals with dubious practices by private citizens is to protect the liberty of those who find fault with such practices to protest, including by refusing to allow them in their own private spheres such as their places of business. But because this principled approach does not immediately do away with some of the despicable practices of the citizenry, such as racism in commerce, the eager beavers have now thrown the baby out with the bathwater, sacrificed individual liberty for the sake of coerced decency. This is exactly like when others abandon liberty for the sake of security. Plague on them both.

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Posted by Mpresley on 3/6/2010 7:33:26 AM

Agreed. However, I would add that Amendments originally designed to protect liberty, intended as a limitation on Federal power, have been inverted by liberal thinking.

The "incorporation" doctrine should not be cited as a defense of the Second or, for that matter, any of the Amendments. This wrongheaded application of law (along with the radical interpretation of the "commerce clause") began our slide into a philosophically obtuse but totalitarian liberal hell. All of these decisions should be left to citizens of the individual states. More local control is the only way to maintain any discipline over our Leviathanic monstrosity, the federal government.

Posted by Rabc on 3/6/2010 9:53:49 AM

The State plays God, and whoever controls or has influence over the State is God. And I for one believe that no human has the right to determine the beliefs and behavior of another, because no human is God. Coercing individuals to do and believe as the State dictates is the loss of individual freedom, something which in intrinsic to our humanity, take that away and we are left with robotic cogs in a machine who appear human but have lost their ability to express real authentic human behavior. Obviously this is not uniform over all individuals in a society, some are resistant to such control and others are not.

Posted by Terry Haney on 3/6/2010 10:29:28 AM

While I agre on some levels with you arguments against this, I see some of it differently. To me gun rights are the same as the freedom of speech. You cam walk into any business with that freedom, yet it is illegal to shout "fire" in a crowded theater.

It is legal to carry a concealed weapon in my state, but illeagl to discharge it any time you want. You cannot legislate away human stupidity or violence in a deranged individual and we can not give up freedom for all in case someone loses it mentally.

I feel that if a individual business owner wants to keep guns out of their establishment, it should be their right. As someone licenced to carry a gun it is my right to not do business there. That is freedom of choice.

Posted by Civil Westman on 3/6/2010 12:03:08 PM

As I see it, human beings are at their best when they work out their differences one-on-one. Not every difference of opinion as to human action demands a law or an authoritative decision maker.

In the US, regrettably, more so every day, petty wishes for power over others plays itself out in formal legal or administrative venues, with an aggrieved party in high dudgeon over his 'rights.'

Alternatively, the statists demand yet another new law. This is likely to play out in even more bizarre fashion in the near future. For example, the pending 'health care reform' will establish unworkable adversarial interests in hospitals between patients and caregivers. We can look forward to administrative hearing chambers on every hospital floor - replete with a vast new bureaucracy - to resolve each and every conflict, which will abound.

Can litigation via iPhone on the go be far behind for life in general? It is indeed a fatal conceit to believe that all of life can be regulated by elites. We all watched the definitive experiment in that regard collapse of its own weight in the erstwhile Soviet Union. It appears that our own apparatchiks - in their infinite arrogance - believe they will merely do a better job of it.

The bottom line is that a community worth the title cannot be coerced into existence. It can only arise voluntarily through human action. The government-run alternative becomes a cynical hell on Earth. Russians and other subjects of the Soviets elevated cynicism to Rococo proportions with slogans like, "I pretend to work and they pretend to pay me;" or "In the Soviet Union, the PAST.........is hard to predict."

Sound familiar?


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Yes.

Posted by Windy on 3/6/2010 12:37:31 PM

Terry, I totally agree with your final paragraph. Any privately owned business/home should have the freedom to set whatever rules the owner wants to set (including whether customers/guest may smoke on that property) and if customers don't like it they are free to shop/drink/whatever elsewhere, and if government doesn't like it, so what? Government didn't invest the money to create that business/build that home and government has no legitimate authority to regulate what the owner does with the property or allows visitors to do!

Posted by Bruce on 3/6/2010 2:38:35 PM

When the Federal Reserve was created and instituted, that was the beginning of the end for private property. Under law, when land is obtained by bill of sale and exchange of lawful money, absolute title transfers and the land is private. Private land is allodial, and is not taxable. Land held under mortgage is a different matter.

Corporations are public entities, even allegedly private corporations are public because a corporation receives franchise of the state and is beholden to the state. In effect, a corporation is created by the State. Therefore, land held under mortgage to a corporation is in effect public land also, that is, regulable by the state. It is not public in the sense that there are still somewhat private rights - rights that are exclusive to the tenant and not the public at large.

The article demonstrates that the author has no understanding of the fundamentals of law. Congress does not legislate (make contracts affecting) the people's rights, duties, and obligations.

It contracts for citizen/subjects, employees (of corporations) and other persons " parties who have in exchange for a privilege voluntarily subjected themselves to a status lower then a free man. Free men are sovereign. All others are indentured.

Unfortunately with the advent of fractional reserve banking and issuance of federal reserve notes as tender for commercial transactions, corporations have dominated commerce and most people have found themselves employed, and thus indentured.

Land purchased (seized) with federal reserve notes is accompanied with an abstract of title. Actual title to the land is not conveyed, but a fee simple (feudal title in which the fee is in the state) is conveyed.

Thus the word "own" which traditionally meant "rights exclusive of all others" has been converted to mean "rights as defined by statute are exclusive of others, but subordinated by the state."A right is defined as a well founded claim. To determine what is actually occurring, follow the claims to their foundation. If there is no foundation for a claim, then the claimant is attempting to establish a foundation. The law is what you can get someone to believe the law is " and thereby you have agreement.

A free society is when you have the vast majority of property held privately (untaxed) while a very limited quantity of property (roads, railroads, dockyards, and government arsenals) is held collectively in trust by public fiduciaries for the benefit of all. With great concentrations of wealth there is great opportunity for theft.

Sovereignty includes the rights to procreate, recreate, incriminate, and discriminate. The people are sovereign. No group of representatives have the power to compromise the sovereignty of the people. That is outside their delegation of authority. The servant cannot be greater than his master. But, people can be deceived into giving up their most valuable possessions, particularly if they aren't even aware that they have them. If you don't know who and what you are, you have no power. If you don't know your rights (the foundations of any rights) you don't have any. If you don't claim and assert your rights, you don't have any.It's absurd that Congress, or a Court somewhere, could determine the rights of 300 million people.

Don't give them the right to regulate you. If you don't give it to them, they don't have it! This is not a Democracy, and you cannot be compelled under law to collective bargain.


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Thank you for the insightful response.

Posted by Strobdoc@yahoo.com on 3/6/2010 6:13:21 PM

We are not buying security, we are selling liberty.

Posted by Leonardo Pisano on 3/7/2010 9:18:05 AM

I agree in principle that you choose whatever you want with your property. As long as this is subject to free market forces, that's perfect. However, there can be situations where one can exercise rights that have severe adverse consequences to other people's rights. In such cases, governmental protective rules are necessary, imho.

By way of example, take a river that flows through my farm land. If I choose to block the stream, the downstream neighbours would no longer be able to sustain their farm. Would that be right?

Or, suppose I own a ring of land around someone else's property, and decide at some point in time to block any transport to/from their property, because I am at full will to do whatever I please with my property. Would that be right?

What I am saying is that freedom comes with responsibility, and some "ownership rights" that hamper these of others may need to be regulated, just to ensure that rights of others cannot be hindered by some random individual behaviour.


Reply from the Daily Bell:

Agree about private property. If it is yours, then you ought to be able to do as you see fit.

Regarding a shared resource: one might assume that differences of opinion in a free society would not be REGULATED by an overarching authority but adjudicated between the parties affected via private, common law.

Posted by Bubba Joe on 3/7/2010 2:52:21 PM

First, I don't like Starbucks. Coffee sucks. But they have great lemon pound cake. But everything is too expensive. One should onlt be allowed to carry weapons to protect their possessions: car, house, family. And I'll sell my house to whomever I want. I've obligations to protect my neighbors' investments. To hell with the Supreme Court. What the heck is a principled approach? That's like "poliitically correct." Does my view trump yours? This is life, not checkers!

Posted by Kipp Leland on 3/7/2010 6:50:14 PM

This whole article is premised on a totally incorrect assumption as to what the law is. Starbucks has the ample legal ability to bar firearms from its premises in virtually every state. In fact, even in so-called "shall issue carry permit" states, most states explicitly provide by statute that a store can put a "no guns" sign in the front, and that bars customers from bringing their firearms into the store.

There is no law that I am aware of in existence in any state which would require a store owner, or any property owner, against their will, to allow someone with a firearm into it, with the only exception being some states passing laws allowing employees with carry licenses to store their carry firearm in their cars in the employer's parking lot while they are at work.

Starbucks made its own decision to abstain from putting "no gun" signs on the front of its business, for purely business reasons. They obviously have concluded they would lose more sales by taking a no-gun position than they would if they elected not to.

In fact, many stores have found that to be the case, which is why few stores put up such signs. I am surprised that this article made it to publication, as it looks like the author proceeded from an incorrect foundational assumption on a matter of law. The "recent constitutional decisions" didn't say anything whatsoever which would lead any store owner to believe they could not bar firearms from their establishment if they wanted to.

Posted by Ryan on 3/9/2010 12:12:59 PM

Leonardo: Rothbard to the rescue.Click to View Link

Posted by N. Meyerson on 3/17/2010 8:19:10 PM

The right to life is more important than the right to bear arms.

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