Forget gold and focus on its producers ... In December, I was told that China had appointed an agent in London to buy up every ounce of gold they could find. It was too incredible to believe. When speculation gets this hard to swallow it's a certain sign that a market is hitting a top. Today's news suggests it was another fantasy from the legion of gold bugs. The man in charge of China's $2.4 trillion of foreign-exchange reserves said that the yellow metal is unlikely to be a 'primary investment' as it diversifies. So the argument beloved of gold bugs that China will move to severely reduce the dollar as its reserve currency in favour of gold has been shot down. But that doesn't mean you should not have exposure to the yellow metal – quite the contrary. Gold is a key part of any portfolio. For now, it's not a good idea to buy into the metal directly, but instead to invest in gold companies that look set for strong production growth in the next few years. – UK Telegraph
Dominant Social Theme: Gold is bad, but gold producers are good, especially Barrick.
Free-Market Analysis: The logic of this article is a bit puzzling to us. The author, Garry White, describes himself this way: "As editor of the Questor column, I'm the Telegraph's share tipster, as well as its mining correspondent. I believe stock market investing is easy – all you have to do is look at trends in the world around you [and then] employ common sense. I'm particularly interested in commodities and the effect population growth will have on demand for life's basics such as food and water over time."
We're not sure in the article excerpted above, that White is entirely taking his own advice. Obviously knowledgeable, he seems to have left us with a logic gap. First, he writes that China buying up gold aggressively was a "fantasy from the legion of gold bugs." He also writers that "when speculation gets this hard to swallow, it's a certain sign that a market is hitting a top." Then he writes it's not a good idea to buy the metal directly but instead to invest in gold companies that look set for "strong production growth."
This seems to us, as we stated above, to be a tad illogical. There are reasons to buy mining shares and, yes, gold and silver will be toppy at some point. But we are not sure the article fully defines the theoretical underpinnings of the gold (and silver's) cyclical parabola. White has, however, inspired us (once again) to take a stab at it.
From our perspective, the market itself is not complex, nor is the arc it follows, though the time line can be short or long. In fact, the timing is always uncertain. Gold and silver break out in a big way only when central-banking generated fiat money has so distorted the larger economy that there is a gigantic blow-off and subsequent collapse.
Once a generalized collapse has started to take place, the value of paper money shrinks and gold and silver seem to gain in value, perhaps a good deal. The worse the economy gets, the more value accrues to gold and silver. As the business cycle turns, the powers that be flood the market with fiat money once more to salvage the system. Sooner or later in these scenarios there is almost inevitably a good deal of price inflation as a staggering amount of money has been printed to stabilize the lynchpin players of the fiat system. This happened in the 1970s and is happening in the 2000s.
But we have not, in our estimation, entered an inflationary period yet. The cyclical collapse of the 2000s is considerably longer than the collapse of the 1970s. It may take up to 15 years or more to work itself out and may, in fact, involve the failure of fiat currency as we know it and a new financial structure. Whether it does or not, the chances are that price inflation will eventually become onerous. And it is this price inflation that will send gold and silver – and its producers – soaring. (The alternative being a prolonged deflationary depression.)
Until we get to a point where price inflation is evident, we suggest that a gold and silver mania is NOT taking place. Inflation in the 1970s drove gold and silver to higher highs. But where is price inflation today? In a real price-inflation, gold and silver would likely move hard and fast. And once they did so, people, unable to buy the physical anymore, would begin to buy paper in earnest, especially mining stocks, and even junior mining stocks. The purchases would be driven by economic realities not by "promising fundamentals." Also, the money would flow to the best promoted mining stocks, regardless of promise. That's just how life is.
Conclusion: The mechanism we are suggesting is a bit different than the one presented in the Telegraph article. But we have done our best to present it realistically, as we understand it. Since we have not seen evidence of severe price inflation yet (and sooner or later we believe we probably will) we think physical gold and silver are probably not toppy. A rumor about Chinese gold buying does not a blow-off make. First comes price-inflation, then higher gold and silver prices and finally the purchase of paper assets by those (investors) who can no longer afford the physical metal. When you, dear reader, see these various factors being realized, you may be able to orient yourself as to the market's historical position and act accordingly.
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Posted by Clayton Smith on 3/10/2010 3:24:44 AM
Why would the Chinese government tell us what it really thinks and plans to do? It seems silly to think that they would wish to be candid about what they plan to do with that vast hoard of financial claims they are accumulating.
One thing I think we can have a great deal of confidence in is the fact that they do not want to take a huge hit on their foreign currency holdings. Recently, gold has been going up against most everything again. This is very unwelcome news to the power elite. It is a grave threat to their control over events. In fact, gold is to them much what penicillin is to bacteria. It breaks down the wall of secrecy concerning value by providing a low volatility point of reference in calculating relative values. No CDS needed here.
Image something that is what it is in and of itself. And by the way, if people are not willing to buy gold itself, why would you want to own a gold mine?
Unless the government and the banks are willing to endure an extremely painful and dislocating deflationary reduction in debt money, extraordinary inflation lies not too far ahead. As always, the small saver and pensioners will take the hit. There is a justice or sorts in this. They had the most to loose, yet behaved in the an unbelievably complacent manner. For those of us looking at what appears to be inevitable, timing is everything. Good advise can be found in the last hexagram of the I-Ching, Before Completion, keep your tail out of the water.
Posted by Rob Gerhardt on 3/10/2010 6:57:28 AM
Price inflation is not necessary for the precious metals to find themselves in greater demand, and to be the recipient of more of the resources of shelter-seeking investors.
The mere creation of more fiat money is enough to do the trick, without a single price index needing to move. Imagine you are a desert island castaway. You have trapped five live pigeons. Two others approach, both wanting to barter for a pigeon. They show you what they have. One has five coconuts, the other ten cowrie shells (very pretty). You decline to deal and no price is struck.
They come back the next day, and once again show you what they have. The one still has five coconuts, the other now has twenty cowrie shells (still as pretty). You once again decline to deal. No price is struck, and the island inflation index is unperturbed. But you now have a very different idea both of the availability of different exchange media, and the desperation of the parties involved. Gold is money men can trust as the 1970s/80s slogan of the Chamber of Mines in South Africa put it.
Posted by Iddy on 3/10/2010 7:01:18 AM
Here in the States there are many people buying gold.There are tons of commercials telling people to sell there"scrap gold". I see this as another leg or tentacle of the elite memes. Get rid of the scrap metal and get paper notes. It is the promotion that gold is just something to make rings and watches from.
People give more value to plastic, paper, and digital money. Funny thing about these ads. They show the jewelry going into a furnace and pouring out into molten ingots. Then they say they sell directly to the government.
Isn't it obvious? Why is the "government" buying the useless metal. Maybe they need to balance their portfolio out with all the "toxic assets they have 'bought'. So they will own companies and metal. If I was buying gold and I was able I most likely would do my best to keep the price down till I bought it all.
Posted by Alain Galley on 3/10/2010 8:20:33 AM
Good morning Gentlemen,Your background pictures are just as good as your daily articles. How can one see them in full view, just like your articles?
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Thank you for the kind words. Right now you can't. But in the future perhaps we will make then available. We get many requests.
Posted by Andrew Mackillop on 3/10/2010 10:10:19 AM
More nonsense on gold, you really do specialize in disinforming on the Magic Yellow Metal, but at least this time, today, you point the absurdity of Daily Telegraph advice to "Buy mines, not metal".
But what about platinum ? World total production of the White Metal is about one-tenth of gold production, above ground stocks of platinum are tiny compared with gold stocks, and the industrial demand for platinum is heavily linked to car production.
If the world car industry grows, the platinum price has much better chances of growing than gold. Platinum prices related to Gold prices are very low.
Gold is maybe "toppy" as you put it, but platinum is distinctly "bottomy".
As we know from the Obama "plan" to relaunch the US economy (or at least bail out Wall Street's most reckless gamblers) Obama found a few single digit billions of dollars to give car buyers, to buy a new oil-fuelled non-electric car.
China and India didn't even need to do that, their car output increasing about 15 to 20 a year with no strings attached. China is now the No.1 world car maker.
Even if you dont wear gold jewelry in your new oil-fuelled car, you do need platinum in the exhaust system, increasingly even in China and in India.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
This is strange to us. You obviously read alternative media sites, and many such sites share our sentiments and prefer gold and silver to mercantilist fiat money - as we believe they should.
What exactly do you have against gold?
Posted by Erik Dunleavy on 3/10/2010 12:03:05 PM
If we can't see full view pictures, can you identify the locale for us?
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Posted by Angus on 3/10/2010 1:29:05 PM
A share shill, punting in ridiculously illogical fashion the London IPO of African mines from no less than Barrick Gold - the Darth Vader of the gold world. I wonder what could have motivated him to suddenly spout forth.....?
As Barrick are most definitely one of Da Boyz and heavily involved in the gold suppression schemes; [just research some of their past indiscretions] intense "due diligence" is certainly called for on this offering.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Good point. There is no doubt that Barrick has gained a questionable reputation within a certain portion of the gold community.
Posted by Peter on 3/10/2010 1:53:27 PM
I don't know why you waste time analyzing such a politically correct but schizophrenic article.
I am sure the author feels he would not be serving his masters well if he advised investment by taking delivery of physical gold, it must surely be in the best interests of gold investors to stress the gold market most by demanding delivery, engaging the laws of supply and demand to drive the price up,
The Chinese are following the teachings of Sun Tzu Art of War
so as hostility increases and whenever deception is thought remotely credible, expect their actions to be the opposite to what they would have us believe,
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The Bell's brief, among some others, is to analyze the mainstream media's dominant social themes. That's what we do.
Posted by TMoore on 3/10/2010 3:10:49 PM
Dear Bell:Mr. White's economic brilliance is beyond any reasonable doubt... I mean, with speculation induced dysphagia, investing in gold is, well...hard to swallow! Why bother holding gold when one can have stock in the mine after all? On the other hand, it is growing more difficult to take the Telegraph seriously.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Even Ambrose has fallen off with his recent Keynesian rant.
Posted by Lance E. Schultz on 3/10/2010 4:01:35 PM
"But where is price inflation today?"
The rampant and incessant manipulation of "official" inflation is one of the oldest and surest memes of the moneychanger politburo.
Follow the well-documented history of fiat-based price manipulation here...Click to View Link
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Yes you are absolutely correct. But we remember the price inflation of the latter 1970s - and it was impossible to disguise.
Great link, by the way.
Posted by Michael Ponzani on 3/10/2010 4:22:30 PM
In response to Andrew Mackillop:
Platinum has never been accepted as a monetary metal, probably due to its scarcity, although the Russians did introduce platinum coins in the Tsarist era.
This is the only example I know of using platinum for coinage. In the California gold rush days, I believe some of the miners found platinum, didn't know what it was, ans so used it for frying pans! Thwey also used it to counterfeit gold coins!
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Interesting points. A money metal needs to be fungible, transportable, scarce and valuable (beautiful). Only two have been discovered thus far that have worked over the long sweep of history: silver and gold.
Posted by D. Stewart Armstrong on 3/10/2010 9:52:39 PM
I'm writing a book on gold titled Gold: Barbaric Relic or Gateway To Your financial future. We believe it is the gate way and we have some of the worlds foremost authorities on the yellow metal contributing. Each has their own unique perspective on the matter. Gold is an emotional political metal and many of the paper genre would destroy it if they could--but not until they've lined their pockets with as much of it as they can.
For people, we live in a corrupt world and nothing is as it seems.The US is 100 Trillion dollars in debt; NOT 11 Trillion as they would have you believe. We cannot hyper-inflate out of this debt. I hereby forgive you of all your dollar denominated debt. Antal Fekete's idea--very bright man.
If you spend 1 million dollars a day from 700 years BC until now you'd have a trillion dollars. Multiply that by 100 and it means you have to spend 100,000,000 every day from 700 years before the Birth of Christ until today.
We cannot inflate the debt away and when the roof comes flying off and we have sovereign defaults in the US, gold will be through the roof in all currencies--all fiat currencies.The comments above and the article point to the level of disinformation and the prejudice against gold perpetuated by the Boyz or as I like to call them the PowerzdatB. They hate gold because it competes with the dollar.
China could be in London looking for every scrap of gold because there ain't that much. Gordon Brown gave it all away at the bottom of the market ten years ago.
First of all did anyone make a distinction between monetary inflation and price inflation? What's the difference? Monetary Inflation causes price inflation and monetary inflation means their are trillions of new "dollars" floating around the globe.
Gold is the counter to those trillions. Parts of the arguments or comments of most of the contributors have merit. But gold is not toppy--it is bottomy. Buy physical gold and silver while you still have the chance and then purchase junior mining companies that are producing or within a year of producing.
Be careful, because we know not when the roof comes flying off. Choose wisely and better yet get some help in adding the juniors to your portfolio. Plan the work and work the plan when it comes to your junior gold mining portfolio.
Let me finish with this one thought. There are junior gold shares that you can purchase today for a nickle that will be a dollar within a year. Honest Injun.
And don't listen to the media.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Thanks for the interesting and passionate insights. Good luck with the book.
Posted by B.C. on 3/11/2010 9:13:23 AM
A few thoughts:
The price of gold and silver is fundamentally based upon either demand for those metals or the buying power of the currency exchanged for them, or both. Most people still take a wait-and-see approach to investing.
For all the speculation concerning inflation vs. deflation, interest rates going up or staying low, sovereign states and countries going bankrupt or not, etc. most investors don't act until certain movements actually begin to take place.
I've noticed that those who buy gold are ones who like to study economics and trends and try to predict the future and act accordingly. That means that some investments are bound to be "early" and can seem irrational. It's a matter of time horizons and insight.
They also seem to have the attitude that one should invest according to what is true and truly valuable, whereas most people invest according to what will make money regardless of how or why it does so.
It's like the stock market now: if the FED wants to inflate asset values then why fight it? Stocks will go up in price regardless of all the reasons they're over valued literally because new fiat FED money will be buying them.That said, I have a question for whomever would be kind enough to respond:
Why did gold rise in price so much from circa 2000 when it was $250/oz and despised to now? The dollar index dropped only about 15 during that time, not 75. That means there was a strong demand for it. So who was buying it? Why has the price risen so much?
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Because, as we and others have written many times before, of the ineluctable rigor of the business cycle which turned away from fiat in 2000. The collapse of fiat assets triggered a long-pent-up move toward money metals which were laughably undervalued relative to shattered fiat currencies, especially the dollar. The next leg of the gold bull market may come when perceptions of price inflation are widely held.
Posted by Angus on 3/11/2010 9:50:28 AM
@D.Stewart Armstrong
Before using it as a book title and thus reinforcing the myth; you should maybe research the idiot Keynes' [pronounced Caynes BTW] exact quote.
"In truth, the gold STANDARD is already a barbarous relic..."[A Tract on] Monetary Reform. 1924 edn. P.172
Posted by Peter on 3/11/2010 3:06:29 PM
To add to my recent comment and further expose the falsehood of the above disingenuous Telegraph article in order to maximize return from Gold investment I think it best to avoid investment in Gold producing companies as this when things perform as advertised simulate the production side of the supply demand cycle reducing the price of Gold also I believe on average return by direct Gold investment has yielded approximately twice the income of the mining companies further if a production company fails to pay high dividends in our yet to be fully recognized new world, it is likely to have little worth.
Reply from the Daily Bell:
Interesting point, long sentence.
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