To: Mosin Nagant

Here, here!It seems we are of one mind developed through the crucible of experience. I could not have said it better or any more succinct. I would not have even Click to view link seems many are in the same camp, seperated by millions of sheeple who will not be persuaded or influenced by any reality check. What a sad and feeble ended to a wonderfully envisioned experiment.

3 cheers for The Bell.

To Mosin Nagrant, absolutely superb commentary--thank you. I share your view and I think there's nothing else to say--except, "You're right!"

The McCain bill would have potentially given the FDA too much control over dietary supplements. As the efficacy of our drug therapies recedes helped with their myriad number of side effects, the medical community would love to make supplements available only through prescriptions like much of Europe. The costs of these supplements would rise exponentially.

Supplements that are only available through a prescription in Europe and Japan are enjoyed by Americans at reasonable prices. See:

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In the USA, doctors can only treat patients with "drugs". This is why we have the most expensive system in the world. This is why drug manufacturers like Merck and Pfizer are among the world's wealthiest corporations.

Farmers are only paid to produce bulk food without regard to nutrition, Therefore they tend to put nitrogen, phosphorus,and potassium back into the soil and ignore the other 69 trace elements which may be necessary for optimum health and which results in nutrient depleted soil.

I've read articles before about this plan to control private food gardens, and I just read one the other day. I can't remember where I seen that one but, I found these two articles that mention it.

HR 875/S425 Would Nationalize Farming - Destroy Organics - Evan Attack Your Private Garden

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Unsafe Genetically Modified Food

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In the last few months, I had emailed McCain twice on his sponsership of this horrible bill. I'm sure that as a resident of Minnesota, he didn't lend much credibility to my plea down there in Arizon, but I did what I could. The Internet is our friend!

McCain is backing down because he was flooded with angry letters from people across the country! Americans want the right to choose whether they use supplements and natural alternatives to stay healthy! They don't want politicians that are more concerned with serving the interests of the pharmaceutical giants, taking away their right to choose to use these natural remedies!

I'm one of those people that contacted my political representative. He chose to brush me off, but he found out how I felt, and I'm sure he heard from many other people, he is suppose to represent.

Another scheme they are planning is to control people growing their own gardens. Over in Europe they are already doing this. All you have to do is look to Europe to see what is coming here. European Union! North American Union!

Reply from The Daily Bell

Controlling gardens! We'll have to look into it. Hard to keep up.

"If it were simply a matter of passing a few laws, wouldn't it have been accomplished by now?"

As you mentioned before the so called "elite" don't represent a homogeneous well ordered cadre of strategic geniuses.The internet will continue to be promoted until there is a computer in every room and a cell phone in every pocket, after which it will become much less free.

This is why the battle to contain internet pornography is being waged at a snails pace; porn sells bandwidth. When it ceases to be profitable, it disappears from the "free" market and you have to pay for it. The same could easily happen with "free" journalism, Rupert Murdoch has already fired the first salvo in that battle.

Murdoch is fighting freedom on the Internet and with the help of Google (or its technical equivalent) he could very easily win that fight.

Reply from The Daily Bell

We agree with all this. We just don't think it is either planned meticulously or preordained. In fact, we think the elite is having a good deal of difficulty with its promotions and plans - though they undoubtedly exist as the Internet illustrates every day. But the idea of the all-powerful elite is, in our opinion, a dominant social theme promoted by the elite itself with the help of controlled websites, etc. The Gutenberg press provides our historical precedent, though you may think that was in some sense arranged as well. We don't.

"The 'Net is such a large part of the fabric of Western life and work that it will be hard to bring it under elite control in the near or intermediate future."

Were that only true. Examine closely the interaction between the Chinese government and Google. Consider the ease with which content filters might be applied and the ramifications of criminally circumventing them in a post Digital Millennium Copyright world.

It would not be difficult to present such measures as being in the interest of public safety and the common good. The internet, and its continued freedom, should not be assumed.

Reply from The Daily Bell

We don't assume it. We just think it will be difficult in the West to do so easily. If it were simply a matter of passing a few laws, wouldn't it have been accomplished by now?

Didn't the FDA just hire some big wig from Monsanto? I doubt thats coincidence. Putting another tool in place.

Daily Bell responded: "Not speaking specifically. But the number of vaccines continues to rise along with the questions about side-effects."

Thanks for the clarification, though it doesn't really clarify anything for me I'm afraid :-)

So I'll just say this: Too often in the debate concerning immunizations, the baby is thrown out with the bathwater. Big Pharma does lobby against our liberties, and often for no real benefit to us, but then again... Oil companies lobby for cap and tax, yet many people realize that oil is not hurting the earth.

There's no elitist promotion that McCain doesn't like! And he came from the "royalty" class of the military as his father was an admiral.

McCain has been in the political limelight a little to long and now he is half baked. I voted for him in 08, mainly because there was no other good choice in my mind.

I now see RP as a smart choice. I do not think that McCain is going to survive the Senatorial race he now faces, and good riddance.

I love it when you Bell guys ring different issues for us. Your writing illuminates my everyday living with smart, well thought out, and well written statements of fact.

I love the diversification, even though I can understand it is the Power Elite memes you are confronting. Keep up the great work, as I figure that you are going to be a considerable force in the future.

Thanks again.

Reply from The Daily Bell

And thank you for the kind words.

Another very troubling elite agenda item that is occurring right now but is not being much noticed is that Obama is in the process of nationalizing our public schools. He is finishing the horrid final takeover move that started with the "No Child Left Behind" act from W. Bush.

He is instituting a national curriculum, nationally approved text books and national standards. He has put in place punishments for individual schools not meeting the national "standards" or not complying.

He is using the fact that so many states are bankrupt to tie federal "bailout funds" to state school compliance. Many of us remember when our locally controlled public schools actually worked fairly well and were local cultural centers in our cities. Those days are far, far behind us.

Today's children are not only being left behind, they are being thrown under the elites propaganda school bus.

I sure wish there was a way to click on your background scenes to view the whole picture.

John McCain's abandoned effort to regulate and thus cripple the supplement industry on behalf of his masters at Big Pharma demonstrates that he is in favor of government sponsored mass murder at home as well as overseas.

There is no doubt that supplements, herbs and a whole foods diet free of toxic additives can not only prevent but even cure the degenerative diseases rampant in modern civilization. Yet the government subsidizes industrial farming and protects the obscenely expensive and ineffective symptom treatment medical cartel from competition while laboring tirelessly to marginalize inexpensive supplements.

This is shameless mass murder to benefit the bottom line of the medical and processed food industries just as wars for "democracy" are mass murder really meant to fatten the bottom line of the military industrial complex.

There is evidence that widespread vitamin D3 deficiency is a major cause of all kinds of diseases including cancer, heart disease, diabetes and osteoporosis. $100 per capita annual expenditure on vitamin D3 supplements, not to speak of exposure to free sunlight, would gut mainstream medicine. No wonder that the MSM and government "health" agencies are silent about this.

By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: for this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

He was a fraud when he was in the navy and will remain a fraud till he is in the grave...

Fascinating interview, never aired, with Merck vaccine chief who claims AIDS and a virus that causes cancer were brought to America in vaccines: Click to view link

Keep on fighting for smaller not bigger, less and not more Government control of our lives. Congress can't keep its own bed made and they want to tell us how to make up mine. I would rather be responsible for my own mistakes, Thank you.

It is painfully obvious that John McCain sold out to elite interests long, long ago. Why would anyone see the need to regulate nutritional supplements, just when we need alternative medicine the most? Why would anyone continue to back the crack-pot theory of climate change in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary? Thanks for your service in Vietnam, John. Please leave now.