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Thursday, April 15, 2010 – by Staff Report

Germans' support for Afghan war collapses ... Germany's defence minister visited the 4,500-strong Bundeswehr contingent in Afghanistan as a new poll indicated that almost two out of three Germans want its military brought home. Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg toured German military headquarters in Mazar-i-Sharif before heading to Kunduz, where German troops mistakenly shot dead six Afghan soldiers on April 2 following a guerilla ambush in which three Bundeswehr personnel were killed. Berlin's military intervention in the impoverished country is deeply unpopular among German voters. Stern magazine has published a Forsa poll which found that 62 per cent of the 1,004 people surveyed want the troops withdrawn. That is a considerable jump from September 2005, when only 34 per cent of those polled by Forsa said the Bundeswehr soldiers should pull out. Washington is increasingly concerned over declining support in Europe for the war. Last month a memorandum apparently drafted by CIA spooks was posted to the Wikileaks Web site. The document, marked "confidential/not for foreign eyes," noted that "the fall of the Dutch government over its troop commitment to Afghanistan demonstrates the fragility of European support for the Nato-led ISAF mission." – UK Morning Star

Dominant Social Theme: The heck with 'em – and the Dutch, too!

Free-Market Analysis: The Afghanistan war continues to stumble from bad to worse from the West's point of view – as this excerpt from an established trade-union (UK) newspaper points out. It's hard to tell exactly what's going on because while success has many fathers, failure has only conflicting justifications. What's clear is that increasingly Europe is sick of it. First the Dutch fell out of bed, and then the Germans. The Brits are tired as well, though the British "special relationship" means that Britain is joined to America at the hip and likely will stay the course, reluctantly.

In fact, the serial wars in the Middle East for the past decade have actually been sustained not just by America but by Britain too. The special relationship is actually an expression of empire. We call this the "Anglo-American axis" and it is certainly the most powerful sociopolitical alliance in the world, though it is beginning to fade.

Throughout the 20th century, this alliance reigned supreme, we think, creating wars, building wealth and consolidating power. But the 21st century has not been kind to the alliance, nor to the power elite that runs it. We blame the decline of the alliance mostly on the Internet, which has thoroughly exposed the machinations and manipulations of the Anglo-American power elite – a group of supernally wealthy and powerful families and individuals.

Many within the alternative media community believe that the Internet has not had any real impact on the power elite and that it cannot in the future. We beg to differ. Our position is that the Internet has fully exposed the system and in doing so has begun to draw its poison.

A ruling elite that relied on secrecy and propagandistic/thematic promotions to work its will, now stands revealed on ten thousand blog-rolls and alternative news-sites. Its secret meetings are broadcast before they begin. Its plans are scrutinized before they are even put in place. Its agenda is available for anyone to read who is willing to be labeled a conspiracy nut – and millions are these days.

The power elite relies on fiat-money, regulatory control and military mayhem to lord over many of the world's six billion citizens. But increasingly the Internet has educated viewers as to the reality of these manipulations. Central banking is discredited as the price-fixing scam that it is, the system of intensive regulation and taxation is bleeding credibility and the wars that the Anglo-American elite might wish to pursue are running into intensive pushback – in Europe especially, but also in America.

This is why the Afghanistan war seems increasingly troubled and futile. From our point of view, the Afghan war is the culmination of an Anglo-America invasion that started at least a century ago. Between the British and the Americans, the poor, tortured Middle East (and environs) has hardly been left alone for more than a few years at a time. Once Israel was inserted into the picture, the recipe for mayhem was complete. And the chaos continues to this day.

But beyond chaos, the reasons for the serial wars of the Anglo-American axis have to do with the imposition of a kind of massive and physically expressed Hegelian dialectic. The way we see it – and admittedly we have no itemized proof (no smoking gun) – the West has been penetrating select Middle Eastern countries by purchasing oil, etc. for decades. This is the business side of the dialectic. Then there is the military side. The West has either fomented wars in the Middle East or directly or indirectly participated in them since the end of World War II (and actually long before).

The combination of immense sums of money penetrating Middle Eastern oil-rich countries combined with savage military campaigns have both destabilized the Middle East and remolded it bit by bit into the West's image. This was the plan, we believe. The Middle East and in fact the whole Muslim culture has been fairly antithetical to Western regulatory democracy and elite wealth extraction. But as the Sunni and Shia Middle East goes, so goes the rest of the Muslim world.

The Afghan war in our estimation was to be the crowning glory of this inter-generational campaign to pacify and realign the Middle East and hence the global Muslim community. It was Afghanistan, especially, that would likely prove the most grievous stumbling block to an "interconnected world" thanks to the independent and insular tendencies of the Afghan Pashtuns who have occupied the same deserts and mountains for thousands of years.

Without subduing the Pashtuns, Western regulatory democracy cannot fully take root in the Middle East and its environs (Afghanistan, Pakistan, etc.) This is the reason for the war – to eradicate the last remaining impediment to global governance. But the Pashtuns, as usual, are not cooperating.

The war is purportedly being waged against the Taliban, but you have to read Anglo-American war propaganda carefully to understand the most basic precept of the war – that the Taliban is drawn almost exclusively from the Pashtuns. And while Pashtuns may not like the fundamentalist severity of the Taliban, they are not necessarily enamored of Western invaders either.

It is one thing to win hearts and minds of citizens you are freeing from an enemy. But the enemy in Afghanistan is composed of the fathers and brothers of the citizens that are supposedly being liberated. Additionally, the American military, especially, is continuing its brutal and intimidating night raids – much hated by the Pashtuns – even as the American military attempts its nation-building during the day.

It is likely impossible to stop the violence. Almost every day, American soldiers (in some cases understandably panicked) open fire on Pashtun civilians. And Hamid Karzai, the purported leader of Afghanistan (and supposed puppet of American interests) grows more and more agitated as these incidents escalate. This is an area of concern for the Anglo-American axis. Karzai is well aware that the Americans are going to leave at some point. He is the head of the state, but he is also scared for his life. He wants to negotiate with Taliban now, not later, and he is likely doing so no matter how the Americans feel about it.

Then there is Pakistan. The Americans have been putting pressure on Pakistan to drive the Taliban out of its territories. But Pakistan – a dysfunctional state if there ever was one – perceives the Taliban as an ally in its eternal confrontation with India. Pakistan intelligence has apparently arrested various higher-ups in the Taliban chain of command but there is a question as to whether Pakistan intel is cherry-picking the Taliban leaders it arrests for its own purposes.

We wonder how this war will end. Hamid Karzai is an unstable puppet; Pakistan is not a dependable ally; European civilian populations are increasingly disenchanted; the Taliban – who may re-inherit the country some day – can blend into the Pashtun populace at a moment's notice; and American soldiers will continue to shoot Afghan civilians because there is no way to tell the combatants from the non-combatants.

It was the intention of the Anglo-American axis, we believe, to turn Afghanistan into a kind of poor man's Iraq – complete with a liberated female population, a "democratic" government and an agrarian population willing to grow peas instead of poppies. To this end, much of the familial animal husbandry has been destroyed (we read a figure of 80 percent), Karzai has been elected twice, and an Afghan army and police force has been trained and expanded.

There may be no return from the annihilation of Afghan agrarian culture, but that is a far cry from annihilating the Taliban. Increasingly, as Europe drifts away from the war effort, the task will fall more fully to the Americans – and they have done little to show that new tactics will be more successful than the old ones. Lack of credible NATO allies will make the war even harder to fight and adversely affect sentiment at home, which is souring as well. Like the Vietnamese, the Taliban may now believe they simply have to wait out the last spasms of American aggression.

Conclusion: Unlike the Iraq surge (which so far as we can tell was accomplished by bribing certain factions of the Iraqi populace) there is no one to pay off in Afghanistan. The Pashtuns will take the money, but they are also the enemy and there are 40 million of them. Without Europe, America's task becomes even harder. Perhaps we are missing something and the US will find a way to pacify and control this "graveyard of empires." But perhaps not.




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  Posted by Joan on 04/16/10 02:19 PM

Don't ever underestimate the spirit of Americans.They have awoken the sleeping giant.Their time is coming to an end.We have to unify and watch our flag ascend.They will not force us,They will stop degrading us.They will not control us.We will be victorious.Lets not forget, genocide has killed more people that war.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 04/16/10 08:41 AM

"those in Control make the Rules"

And, those who understand freedom can CHOOSE to break the rules...

BECAUSE:We Are Already Free. Whining to authority to give you freedom is believing they have the power to control you. It is a natural right (laws of reality) to be free. We can do (choose) whatever we want to do.

The only choice of others is the choice they make in response. We can be punished for our choices, but no one can prevent them unless we are incarcerated, mis-educated or crippled by fear of consequences.

If you make this choice, insure that you cause no harm, ideally, do good. Then, it becomes IMPOSSIBLE for THEM to demonize you. This is how Gandhi managed a predator exchange in India and is the basis of successful civil disobedience:

Click to view link

  Posted by Marten on 04/16/10 12:54 AM

Keep in mind that those who live by the sword, Die by the sword... A very good article....thank you......And a good reminder that those in Control make the Rules...

  Posted by The Gimlet Eye on 04/15/10 03:51 PM

Devastating analysis, as usual. I think you have it about right, as right as anyone can who is not in the inner circle. Their charade is falling apart, there is no doubt. It is just a matter of time. Of course, the implications of what American government has become are horrible: a complete and total slave of the power elite. Truly, a gigantic collision is taking place between an Internet-informed populace and the dominant social themes of the power elite. I watch, enthralled, as history is being made. What will come out of it will be quite a spectacle.

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  Posted by Clayton on 04/15/10 03:08 PM

Many points here to discuss, but first and I think foremost is that we can now put to rest the unjustifiable stigma, which has been placed on the German people, that they are a people who are genetically inclined to war-making.

And hopefully out of this will come a reappraisal (or revision) of their sad history in the 20th Century. In the end, I think an open minded individual will see that they have been in fact no more wishful of suffering the privations and desolutions of violence than their friends and neighbors.

Once this has been seen to be true, we can then proceed to reexamine the true causes of the carnage that destroyed the essential core of Western Civilization.

I urge your readers to find a copy of the book, "Days of Our Years," by Van Passen. It had a score of reprints in the late 1930's and early 1940's and was widely available. In it, one will discover the true depth of War Exhaustion that existed after the end of the First World War.

Peace was extremely desired by nearly all, but not being in the interest of the Power Elite and their lackeys in the various governments of the world, it was not to be.

Europe's people have no desire to return to the follies of the past and kill off what small accomplishments they have to show for the wonderfully long era of Peace and Prosperity they have enjoyed since the end of the fighting in 1945.

Thirty years of hell might have been enough. I hope so.

Yes, pipelines, opium. The price is having to make a workable deal with the Pashtuns. But which Pashtuns? The whole enterprise lacks the basic foundation for its own sustainability, namely Trust!

So it cannot be relied upon to pay its own way, and must be exogenously supported or face collapse. Thus, having an overall negative rate of return, someone must bear the consequences for its losses. It is like the current real estate and banking crisis, a great transfer of wealth from unconnected productive seqments of society to the beneficaries in the Power Elite.

As an accountant and business consultant, I am continually applying the budgetary constraints demanded of by the "Dismal" Science, is this affordable. When denial is in full force, the only thing that leads the destructive forces to cease is the threat or the reality of bankruptcy.

So, will we stop ourselves in time, or have to learn the same lessons as our friends in Europe did during the first half of the previous century?

  Posted by SP on 04/15/10 02:50 PM

The naive Obama is making America appear weak and is apologizing for being a superpower. He is confusing everyone about where America stands on foreign policy and her allies are pulling out. There is lack of commitment to see the job through and the world senses this. I predict a new dictator in Iraq and the Taliban will once agin run the drug business in Afghanistan. American's are confused and the government is out of control, we saw the same thing happen with Rome.

The US populace is complacent and uniformed and lets the politicians with know formal business experience run the biggest business in the world the US economy into the ground. America's fiat wealth will only protect her for so long.With the ever increasing senatorship of the internet our range of free thought is in danger of censorship, this might be the last gasp of individualism in world.

  Posted by Mark Y on 04/15/10 02:43 PM

In my opinion, the "smoking gun" that could expose the real agenda of and in fact the existence of the "power elite" is the 9/11 event. Peter Dale Scott, in his book "The Road to 9/11: Wealth, Empire, and the Future of America" traces the players and their actions in meticulously researched detail.

The Click to view link organization has fully documented the fact that the four buildings were destroyed by demolition, not solely by the impacts of the airplanes. I'm surprised The Bell didn't mention the growing opium trade in Afghanistan, which is a direct product of our war intervention efforts also. This provides a massive source of money for "off the books" operations controlled by the elite.

Reply from The Daily Bell

We've written about elite and drug-war benefits before. Civil war (Mexico, Colombia) , chaos and higher prices are all benefits of the horrible drug ban.

  Posted by Michael Ponzani on 04/15/10 02:17 PM

I read this story in Bleecher, a rock and roll magazine, about an American kid who was arrested in Pakistan for smuggling leather coats! He said the Pakis arrested a high level Taliban. The guy had the largest cell, carpeted with AC and TV and good food. He also frequently ate supper with the warden. Apparently he wwas arrested for display purposes.Incidently, when the American said he converted to Islam, the other prisoners who used to beat him instantly became his friend and his treatment and food inmproved.

  Posted by Bob on 04/15/10 12:46 PM

One thing the Bell and the feedbackers I believe get backwards is the theory that the West wants to increase oil availability via these foreign adventures.

My theory, which if correct has important investment implications, is that the Western powers wish to decrease oil production via this serial warfare.

When Iraq was first invaded, we saw an initial price spike due to wells coming off-line. Prices have not yet completely fallen to pre-invasion levels.

Back in 2008 when VP Cheney was spouting off about a potential Iran invasion, (remember nukes being flown across US by "mistake"), we saw a huge speculator driven price spike. Now again the powers are talking Iran attack or at least embargo and we are seeing the beginnings of oil price Click to view linkom memory, I think Iran constitutes 8 of world production.

At present total world projected production slightly exceeds world projected demand. Taking Iran off-line would put production well under demand and introduce a price spike.Could a major part of all of this be a price manipulation scheme?

Reply from The Daily Bell

Good point.

  Posted by Paul on 04/15/10 11:29 AM

@ Bill Madden

HE's point, he's right on! The only way most Americans will know what is REALLY going on in the world is short sound bites shown like flashly commercials during "Survivor" and "American Idol".

Reply from The Daily Bell

Oh, come on. There is a very engaged minority in America. Moreso than anywhere else in the world. There are ten times as many blogs in America as the rest of the world combined, we've read. Something like that. The republic may be dying, but it's not dead.

  Posted by Kaydell Bowles on 04/15/10 11:23 AM

The people forget how glad the people of Afghansitan were when released from the oppressive Tailban regime and the liberties the men and women i.e., schooling and release of other oppressive dictates of the regime.

But the insatiable desire for drugs in Europe and the USA, led to the war lords protecting their truf and vast sums of money from drugs. Thus trynany wins again.

Then too as the years pass in Europe, within a decade the Muslim population will be dominant in Germany, France similar to Netherlands and we will see what liberties Europe will have when the mullahs decide who will do what.

Good luck Europe. Do not depend upon USA to defend your liberties. May the USA pull all troops from Germany and all other places. I too am tired of paying for the major defence of Europe and the world. Let us come home and protect our own borders plus drill in the oil fields we do have and leave it to Europe to defend their dependance upon oil from the Mid East and Russia.

  Posted by Mojine on 04/15/10 11:06 AM

Poor Abe, looks as though your delusion is terminal. I'm glad it's not contagious!

  Posted by Scott on 04/15/10 10:43 AM

Those questioning the Anglo-American Axis' rational for war in Afghanistan would do well to research the Trans-Afghan Pipeline project, an endeavor undertaken by the Asian Development Bank.

Those interested in delving deeper into the persons most interested in pursuing war in that theater might do well to examine the principal stakeholders in that bank, or perhaps the enemies of those stakeholders?

For those who might observe that the Iraq war was at least 'explainable' (excusable?) based on the West's desire to secure oil while the Afghan war has no such commercial justification, I would suggest you may have been hoodwinked on two fronts; the apparent purpose of the Iraq invasion was not to bring oil to the west, rather it was to prevent Iraq from bringing oil to eastern Europe.

Similarly, conflict in Afghanistan is preventing the delivery of natural gas to the Caspian Sea.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 04/15/10 10:40 AM

"Simply control"

What you can control, you can extract rent from. Beats being productive and actually working and contributing. Goal seeking (securing resources) using force and fraud are far more efficient than working, at least until the productive catch on an reduce productivity (pointless, no property rights). Then, you eat civilization's seed corn and, eventually each other. Predators see this as reducing competition or, "useless eaters" in their terminology.

  Posted by Jones on 04/15/10 10:33 AM

The American leadership is primarily degenerate... It will not be long before the country collapses but this may be the intended result of the corruption...

Remember the curse of Baalam. God would not allow Baalam to directly curse Israel so Baalam advised the Canaanite Kings to have their daughters intermarry with the Israelites and introduce their corrupt culture to them gradually.

  Posted by Dave REdick on 04/15/10 09:40 AM

Perhaps missing something?? You missed the whole point of why we invaded Afghan. There is ample evidence that the REAL reason is to get access for a pipeline from Karachi to Turkmenistan to drain the xxstans E of the Caspian.

Ok,land for baes too (and maybe some copper mines, etc) Certainly not nation-building or finding Osama. The latter are lies for sheeple. Same for Iraq, which was for oil bases, and defense of Israel. Wake up !! Nobody talks about this; so the sheeple believe the Bush-Obama lies!! Yuk Google 'Afghan, Unocal' and 'escobar, pipelineistan' for an eyeful. Also see Click to view link

The Empire-USA plan is to control oil in the greter ME (including N Africa and the xxstans) before Russia, China and India do.

Reply from The Daily Bell

We think this is the reason being floated, not the real reason which is simply control. There is plenty of oil in the world.

  Posted by Bill Ross on 04/15/10 08:10 AM

"Regulatory control" is a futile, doomed to fail (false) concept and is based on the incorrect statement that "criminals are those who disobey the law (us)" as opposed to "those who initiate aggression or cause harm - break the peace".

Where to start refuting a near infinite artificial reality and dangerously false paradigm?Start by realizing that any ORGANIZED opinion has a self-interest agenda, determined by what they believe is in their self-interest in their environment which determines the choice possibilities available. In other words, any organized viewpoint and most individual viewpoints are parochial, within a narrow paradigm.What should be clear to all competent thinkers is: REAL massive organizational failure has occurred.

REAL factors are driving REAL events. The laws of reality (action inevitably leads to consequence) are imposing attrition costs for FALSITY. We, the people have already paid a hefty price for this and, the cost IS increasing. Our children will be slaves to the debt we have bequeathed them. This is OK, by some perspectives.The first thing to do is to KNOW that regulation is an attempt of central command and control. As such, accurate information and models of reality are required, else: garbage in, garbage out.I posit that anticipation of the future even if we have correct behavioral models is IMPOSSIBLE due to information corruption as it traverses hierarchies and the fact that such information is used to the detriment of information providers, encouraging lying. Proof:

http://www.cli.gs/IntelligentChoice

The best (assuming honest regulators) that regulation can do is, in response to known action (choice) sequences that result in crime, deem these sequences illegal. This, presumably will prevent problems that have happened in the past, from recurring.But, it appears that regulators, enforcers and interpreters are coerced by the regulated (lobbyists, bribes).Another problem is that, since we live in an action precedes consequence reality, regulation must, by definition be reactive.

The result is that we have a massively expensive war (paid for by business, taxpayers and consumers) between regulators and their lawyers and innovative criminals and their lawyers. When innovative criminals manage to create a new method of fraud, such as subprime, well, they can honestly say: we were obeying law, nya nya, cannot touch us. This is a very expensive moral hazard, an environment that appears to be designed (by the legal profession) to achieve these very results.There is only one thing that can be done to restore an honest economy, given that the future cannot be predicted.

Respond to crime after the fact (and compensate victims), using REAL, basic definitions of crime. Restore the "rule of law":

http://www.cli.gs/RuleOfLaw

Else, the costs of predatory regulation (ballooning to infinity as it attempts to track and anticipate infinity) and criminals running amok will continue to collapse civilization.Mathematics of Rule irrefutably PROVES this:

http://www.cli.gs/MathematicsOfRule

We, the people KNOW we are prey. We are slowly achieving consensus regarding what to do about it.

  Posted by Bill Madden on 04/15/10 06:50 AM

An excellent analysis but much too long for the ignorant and apathetic American. Very few Americans know or even have an interest in what is going on in the world.If someone could explain to them how these no-win wars help transfer money from the middle class to the power elite in short, entertaining soundbites, there may be some hope for effective communication. So, although we are able to read "this analysis" in America, very few Americans, other than some members of the choir, will read it.

  Posted by A MCKILLOP on 04/15/10 06:04 AM

Nobody yet explained exactly what the Afghan was for - even if it was against the Man In An Afghan Cave able to make an invisible plane crash on the Pentagon, noting this was a highly ecological suicide attack - - the plane's 40 tons of kerosene fuel didnt burn a single blade of grass outside the Pentagon.

Perhaps the Afghan war was for control of heroin production ? Even less attractive raisons de guerre include a possible desite to start a civil war in Pakistan, or other obscure and bizarre urgings and cravings to kill, maim and devastate in already poor countries.

To be sure, we do know why the Iraq war was started - oil. This has been something of a failure, since oil export "performance" of Iraq, post liberation, is not particularly wonderful, and plenty of Iraqui's want their revenge for the devastation, one day, some day...

Reply from The Daily Bell

Well done. War begets war, unfortunately, just as trade begets trade, as you know.

  Posted by Abe on 04/15/10 06:00 AM

Your sorry hind end would have gone up the smoke stack without the anglo-americans.

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