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9/11 Conspiracy Theories Gaining Momentum
9-11 Conspiracy Theorist Hits the Road... Infamous 9-11 conspiracy theorist David Ray Griffin, whose books insist the Bush Administration and not al Qaeda blew up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, is launching a speaking tour this week to help merge the "9-11 Truth Movement" with "more traditional Peace and Anti-War groups" against the "illegal and immoral war" in Afghanistan. The tour also presages Griffin's next book, Cognitive Infiltration: An Obama Appointee's Plan to Undermine the 9/11 Conspiracy Theory. This volume will make much hay over an Obama White House official's article in 2008 as a Harvard law professor, suggesting that the government actively rebut conspiracy theories by networking on social websites. ... Prodigiously, Griffin has been churning out 9-11 conspiracy books since 2004, asserting that U.S. agencies contrived a false flag terrorist attack through controlled demolitions. His first conspiracy potboiler was The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11. Griffin believes that U.S. history is primarily a long catalogue of conspiracies across two centuries to facilitate American imperialism and aggression. Griffin faults the United States for killing hundreds of millions of people globally through its economic, military and environmental crimes, making the U.S. more murderous than the old Soviet Empire or the Third Reich. – Front Page Magazine
Dominant Social Theme: Another tour to avoid?
Free-Market Analysis: The controversy around 9/11 is nearly a decade old now but it will not subside. People like David Ray Griffin continue to be in demand from a speaking standpoint and the amount of people who don't believe in the official 9/11 story may amount to as much as one-third of US adults. This is a significant problem, in our opinion. When this many people have questions about something so fundamental as 9/11, an erosion of civil society begins to occur. Government becomes the cynosure of suspicions rather than an organizing or socializing influence.
We want to return to 9/11 in this article as a follow to an article posted on Saturday, which attracted a great deal of feedback, and some pushback as well. The Bell examined a posting by Jeffrey Scott Shapiro for Fox News. In the process of rebutting recent accusations about 9/11 in a new book by Jesse Ventura, he made the rather startling claim that "Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building [WTC-7] – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall."
We pointed out, along with many others in the blogosphere, that this was a surprising assertion since it can take weeks to wire a building for demolition. And we wrote, "Thus, the blogosphere speculated, either the building was already wired or Larry Silverstein was thinking about wiring it in the future."
However, from the context of the statement, it seems fairly obvious that Silverstein is speaking of demolishing building 7 in a fairly immediate context. This is an important issue because Silverstein has always denied any intention of wiring the building and had explained a way a previous comment of his about "pulling" (demolishing) it. We also wrote that there are other issues swirling around the current 9/11 narrative. For instance, former Attorney General for the state of New Jersey and former senior counsel for the 9/11 Commission, John Farmer, has written a recent book on problems the Commission had with government and military testimony. He writes bluntly in his foreword: ""At some level of the government, at some point in time, this book concludes there was a decision not to tell the truth about what happened."
Additional questions regarding the official narrative have long been raised out on the 'Net. There is considerable confusion over the names of those who were said to have participated in the hijackings, with some of the alleged hijackers apparently now living in Saudi Arabia or elsewhere. Bin Laden denied culpability for 9/11 and the many-storied caves out of which he supposedly worked were never found, nor were the Al Qaeda troops with which he surrounded himself.
Griffin himself has raised questions about the telephones from which victims supposedly called before impact. Cell phones were likely not capable of being used to make calls but there were apparently no onboard phones either on the planes, apparently, so how were calls made to loved ones, he asks. There are even more basic issues, such as why was the World Trade Tower steel supposedly shipped away from the site so quickly, within days when ideally such a vast and intricate crime scene should have been left alone for analysis?
There are literally hundreds of other issues that have been raised on the 'Net regarding 9/11 – some paranoid and some seemingly factual – including the presence, supposedly, of nano-thermite and the additional eyewitness accounts of molten steel puddles that did not solidify for days after the destruction of the towers. Are these perfervid imaginings – and does it matter if they are? The point is that suspicion remains in force for millions, and suspicion can turn to paranoia. Thus, we wrote that a new investigation into 9/11 would go a long way to dispelling confusion and, perhaps, defusing tensions.
It is also important because 9/11 lies at the heart of what America is becoming. It has been responsible for at least two wars in the Middle East and caused a wholesale change in the way Americans relate to their government. Unlimited wiretapping, aggressive monitoring of communications without warrants and other invasive governmental actions have been justified by a supposed need for increased security as a result of 9/11.
We also wrote that in America, "the Patriot Act and other abrogations of traditional American liberties could perhaps be justified on domestic security grounds." However, in no way were we justifying the Act, merely pointing out what the justifications were. Along with many civil libertarians, we believe the erosion of civil liberties in America and Europe are an abomination and that, in fact, there is no justification for them, no matter how "unsafe" the authorities claim certain regions and municipalities might become.
Likewise, we pointed out that there was "no need to accuse the US government or its penumbras (including Israel) of knowingly murdering 3,000 American citizens." We were writing, however, within the context of a potential new investigation. If one DOES contemplate a new investigation of some sort, it is not necessary to state conclusions in advance. The investigation could be an entirely private one, or a quasi-governmental one, or a combination of both. Accusations, meanwhile, wild or not, are not conducive to rational discourse.
Yet questions about 9/11 are obviously not going away. The 911 Commission report didn't even deal with building 7, and Griffin's latest tour (and Ventura's latest book) suggests in fact, that interest in the unresolved issues surrounding 9/11 remains high and may even be growing rather than subsiding. The Internet is partially responsible, as anyone can go online and find thousands of articles and videos that do not currently support the mainstream narrative.
Conclusion: In this article, we've elaborated on some of the other issues that cloud any definitive closure of 9/11 and tried to clarify some points. A commission that sorted through the conflicting claims of 9/11 – even were the commission to be entirely private (a "people's commission," so long as it included credible individuals with appropriate backgrounds) might reach a consensus that was beyond what the 9/11 Commission was able to generate. Such a commission, issuing a further, considered report, might change the course of history (at least a few degrees) while putting to rest at least some of the controversy regarding 9/11, which, as we can see from Griffin's tour, seems to be growing, not diminishing. An investigation that calmly analyzes the continued controversy could, in fact, be considered a patriotic act, in our view, given the present dismal state of societal comity in America. Up to 80 percent of the populace, as a recent Pew poll showed, are distrustful government. An attempt to clear the air when it comes to 9/11 might well be a move in the right direction.
Posted by aaronmfleszar on 05/23/11 05:54 PM
Al-Qaeda or 'New World Order' controls the story online regarding the 9 11 Conspiracy
My name is Aaron Fleszar and I'd like to expose, with your help, the largest conspiracy in world history. Most people don't believe in conspiracies or conspiracy theories, I know because I was one of them. The thing about a conspiracy is it cannot be proven, if it could, it wouldn't be a conspiracy. I will try and make this as simple as possible so that you can follow my logic and likely reach the same conclusions.
What do we know about Osama Bin Laden that we haven't been told by the media? We know that he is a spokesperson for Al-Qaeda. Once or twice a year, this guy appears in video, pointing his finger, from a tape that mysteriously arrives at the Al-Jazeera network. If Osama Bin Laden is only spokesperson, and not a mastermind, who makes up the organization behind him?
Even a president is only a spokesperson. A president surrounds himself with an administration that advises him. There is always a force behind a president with an agenda. Sometimes that agenda is known, sometimes it's not.
Are we being mislead by Osama Bin Laden and the organization behind him? Could Osama be the spokesperson for a New World Order, the richest people in the world who would like to take over the government? Could Osama be a distraction, and a catalyst, for starting an endless war on terror, increasing defense department spending, lining the pockets of defense contractors, and driving up the price of oil?
Could the attacks on 9/11 be attacks against capitalism? Is Al-Qaeda or New World Order's goal to destroy capitalism? Would destroying capitalism allow the richest people in the world a chance to implement socialism, get wealthier by collapsing the dollar, and allow them to institute a one world currency, only to enslave the rest of the world to their New World Order government?
Everyone knows that something happened on 9/11 that is being covered up, but what is it? Is it that planes didn't collapse 2 buildings which fell with precision as if they were being brought down by a controlled demolition? Is it that no one ever talks about the third building which collapsed that never got hit by an airplane? Were the planes nothing more than misdirection, or an illusion, created by Al-Qaeda/New World Order, also known as 'the Illuminati?'
Written across thousands of get rich quick scams online there is a code. Al-Qaeda or NWO appears to be using the internet to take over all ecommerce and media. Several people making up this code are look a likes for people associated with the current administration, in addition to media moguls, and CEO's.
Several of the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorists make up this code online. They are wanted for US embassy bombings in Kenya, Obama's family's birthplace, and Indonesia, a place where Obama spent many years as a child.
These are the aliases of Most Wanted Terrorists. Check out Google images;
Mark Joyner Simpleology-Seif Al Adel (Sarah Palin's book Palinology)
John Ferrero-Ramadan Shallah
Yaro Starak-Umar Patek
Armand Morin-Noordin M Top (said to have been killed in Indonesia and now removed from the FBI's most wanted list)
Michael Filsaime-Ali Sayyid Muhamed Mustafa al-Bakri (Die Hard 4 'Fire Sale' The cyber attack on our infrastructure)
Dr. Mani Sivasubramanian-Ammar Mansour Bouslim
Carl Galletti-Ahmed Garbaya, Samir Salwwan
Ted Ciuba-Abdul Rahman Yasin
What's interesting about the Al-Qaeda organization online, that literally own the internet, is that this same group of marketing experts ran the last election on Youtube. Could the organization behind Osama Bin Laden be the New World Order Illuminati? Could the organization behind the election of Obama, be the same group? Could Osama be the look a like to represent Obama, and Biden, Bi(nla)den?
It's not a conspiracy when it's taking place right in front of you. There is just an overwhelming amount of misinformation to try and prevent you from connecting the dots. Keep in mind that the Illuminati, or New World Order, are masters at illusion.
It's important for the future of America that you tell others immediately about this information. You can learn more by simply searching my name. Email and text everyone you know. When enough people start demanding honest answers, we will finally learn the truth to what really happened on 9/11.
Thank you for reading this,
Aaron M Fleszar
Posted by David Delker on 03/25/11 10:12 AM
Well Ive been looking at all the info out there on the internet about 911.Alot of it to me is very compelling,of course I am not and expert at demolitions,but I do know quite abit about steel.Been in the metal trades all my life, both structural and other areas.
My opinion is that at some point during the collapes at least one of those buildings would have tipped over.But that isnt the reason for me to post here.
Im more concerned with the fact that in one day we had three coincidences take place.One being three buildings falling down from fire,a first in Click to view linkcond that on that day the military was playing out a mock exercise which involved exactly what took place.Third is the fact that at two of the crash sites it looked nothing like what a jet airliner crash site would look like.
I guess Ill throw in the 1945 crash of a B25 bomber that struck the Empire State Building causing the basement and 4 stories to burn for 40 hours and guess what its still standing today.
Posted by Elefant on 03/06/11 03:23 PM
The year 2001 should not be repeated
Posted by Paul Isaac Jr on 07/03/10 10:58 PM
"As I'm starting to pick up her personal effects, we heard this rumbling. BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.
"It's coming, this roaring sound. The lights flicker. But as I look outside to see whats going on, I start to see what initially looks like a storm, but it was the dust cloud starting to form from way up on top of the building. All of a sudden, I could see the facade of the south tower falling against battery park city. And then all hell broke loose and BOOM BOOM BOOM.
"Everything came crashing In. A tremendous wind comes through."
-Captain Tim Pearson
NYPD PSA (Police Service Area 2)
Page 136, Report From Ground Zero
Note: The NYPD Captain was operating inside the lobby of the North Tower when the booms started before the South Tower began to collapse.
(After surviving the initial collapse ... )
"As I'm reporting that I have people trapped, tower 1, the north building came down. I began running again and got caught by the big storm, the second go-round. At this point, I'm totally wasted. I am also totally disoriented, and I'm choking, and I'm thinking how it appeared that the building was falling down on top of me, right there by Trinity church. Thank God it imploded, as opposed to falling over."
-Captain Tim Pearson
NYPD PSA (Police Service Area 2)
Page 138, Report From Ground Zero
Dennis Smith (FDNY Ret)
Paul Isaac Jr - NYsentinel@Large
Posted by Alex I. on 06/13/10 03:00 AM
Actually, it is really surprising why till know thinking people can not ask themselves a simple question: "Why would so many prominent US officials, members of Government, members of Senate, high-ranking judges in courts of law, etc. (not to mention foreign dignitaries) so readily support the most incredible lie concocted by the 9/11 Commission?". Don't you think that the US Government has actually produced two kinds of the 9/11 "truth"? One "truth" " for general public consumption, and another "truth" " for consumption of "patricians" both home and abroad?
I think this question is very reasonable, because if you don't put this question, then the entire US political establishment (and all foreign political establishments as well) would look like a bunch of the most shameless liars and the worst kind of criminals. Isn't it? David Ray Griffin refuses to ask this simple question. He only uses inconsistencies of the "plebeian" version of the 9/11 "truth" to attack poor US Government, without thinking that there might be some hidden "patrician" version of the 9/11 "truth" which justifies (at least to some extent) current actions of the US Government in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as exonerates some high-ranking politicians for their shameless lying to "plebeians".
However, there is one guy, who undertook to explain 9/11 in its entirety and, in fact, he created quite a harmonious explanation of all 9/11 events. His explanation which sounds more than plausible, because it is apparently the very 9/11 truth without quotation marks is now available in a form of video interview.
Google for "Dimitri Khalezov video" or for "911thology" and you will find it on the Internet. It is long ' nearly 4 hours, but it worth seeing and listening. It is so shocking, in fact, that it worth even watching 3 or 4 times over. Get this movie and you will have all answers to all your questions regarding 9/11, its cover-up, and true reasons behind seemingly insane US wars in Afghanistan and Iraq that are indeed serious reasons known to "patricians", but hidden from "plebeians". That video interview reveals it all. And, unlike books by David Ray Griffin which are freely available, the video presentation by Dimitri Khalezov was immediately prohibited on YouTube and on the most of "politically correct" video hosting services on the Internet.
Posted by Monte on 05/31/10 07:54 PM
you state your opinion about people with opinions like mine are somehow not as sensible or fair as your opinion of our opinions. how do you FACTUALLY know that we are less honorable than you?
judging from your ability to parse my words you do have some knowledge of 9/11 for which i am appreciative.
with the nation under attack the prez SITS for about ten minutes and listens to children read. this is not justifiable unless something snarky is going on. the prez wasn't in danger and neither were all those other honchos walking around in the open.
two of the bravest and finest men you will ever hear about are wtc heroes lou cacchioli and william rodriguez. why did they walk out on the 9/11 commission? do you actually pretend to think the 9/11 commission was interested in the truth? are you that lost?
why was theologian and professor david ray griffin nominated for the nobel peace prize in 2008 if he's such a dingbat?
where was the man in charge of the national military command center beneath the pentagon - gen montague winfield - during the crucial hours of the attack? mia
how do you explain rumsfeld's claim that he didn't know we were under attack until after the pentagon was hit, a half hour after the second tower hit? of course he's lying. why?
tell us about the DOCUMENTED pools of molten IRON that burned for several weeks beneath each collapsed tower. tell us about nano-thermite too.
Posted by Verbatim28 on 05/26/10 06:47 PM
My comment was all about what you and people like you would be saying if George Bush got up, left the schoolroom and left the school - not my opinions. The same people who write opinion pieces about the 'pet goat' would be saying how suspicious it was that he left the building- David Ray Griffen and friends would go on at length about it.
You ask me if I have facts that is was more dangerous outside the school and later you actually say yourself he was a 'sitting duck' when he left the school to go to the airport. The point is people can make a case for anything and if they have a audience who want to incriminate someone they are pushing at an open door- anything can be made to sound suspicious -your quote
.."speaking of prez being exposed to danger ...... have you looked into the strange events surrounding prez plane flying unescorted in big loops for several hours with possible bogeys hunting him as an overweight pigeon." is a good example.
If you want facts, Andrew Card whispering in the Presidents ear "our nation has been attacked. we are at war." is not one. He said " A second plane hit the second tower. America is under attack". It's not a major point but accuracy should be important.
On the subject of Willie Rodriguiz, whatever it did on the day- and he seems to have acted bravely- what he said in the interviews with CNN on 911 and a year later seem different to what he is saying now. To me a hero doesn't go around telling people what a hero he is and certainly doesn't go massaging the facts to tell his audience what they want to hear.
Posted by Monte on 05/22/10 03:23 PM
thanks for your response.
interesting that you chose to respond to the booker elementary storyline only. have you seen the actual videos of the event? have you read any of the many opinion pieces about booker elementary. please do.
sure we can play conjecture coulda shoulda woulda your view my view his view yabba dabba doo. secret service SHOULD have and HAD the power to get the prez outta there asap. didn't happen. too dangerous elsewhere you say. yeah sure. got facts?
card whispers in prez ear: "our nation has been attacked. we are at war". prez does nothing. whywhywhywhy (o wait official story is prez didn't wanna ascairt da chilluns). what were all those important high powered staffers, rove card fleischer, doing?
At that moment the bunker hidden cheney white house believed that there were many hi-jacked planes in the sky (later discredited). Certainly there were at least two more.
I would also remind you that the prez and entourage actually did go to the airport in the bombproof limos about a half hour later. The prez was in danger as a sitting duck or pet goat if you prefer everywhere.
The prez party was in direct contact with the honchos in d.c. and knew wassup.
speaking of prez being exposed to danger ...... have you looked into the strange events surrounding prez plane flying unescorted in big loops for several hours with possible bogeys hunting him as an overweight pigeon.
find out how long it took before our military actually sent some fighter escort protection. mere incompetence u might say. ah NO
let's deal with understanding the facts.
and tell me about nanothermite if you can.
have a nice day.
Posted by Verbatim28 on 05/22/10 11:29 AM
Alternative scenario: George Bush immediately leaves the school.
What would the conspiracy people be saying?
"George Bush was told that a plane had hit the other WTC tower. Both towers had been hit. They had been attacked before and now first one tower and then the other had been hit. A person would reasonably assume that was the end of the attacks. He was not told other planes had been hijacked! Why did he leave the room? Did George think he was needed to tell the firefighters how to do their job? He knew he would be in front of the cameras when the attacks occurred - what a coincidence!- and this 'president taking charge' was a carefully arranged propaganda image for the media to present. What people need to realise is that in fact the school was in fact the safest place for him to be!
-paragraph here about the Secret Service, how they would have checked any building that the President visits etc. etc.
- how it is actually when he would go outside that he would be at risk.(Google map of school showing where snipers could be located, etc.)
-how impossible it would be for a hijacked plane to be crashed into a small school in a city suburb which ,unlike the twin towers was such a small and inconspicuous target..
- how returning to the airport and Airforce one would be exposing himself to danger..
...UNLESS he KNEW he was not going to be attacked. It's the only logical conclusion... "
And the funny thing is the same people who are repeating the 'pet goat' nonsense would be repeating the 'why did he leave the school mantra'. No matter what had happened, no matter what the President or anyone else had done you can make it look suspicious.
Posted by Monte on 05/21/10 11:55 PM
gosh and you folks sent me a nice email too. we cornspireacie nutz are not used to cordiality.
science says the hi-tek explosive nanothermite turned those steel girders into POOLS of molten IRON which burned for weeks in the sub-basements of the wtc's.
The last two men left standing, one in each tower, Fireman Lou Cacchioli and Janitor William Rodriguez were heroes on that horrible day. As heroes both were called to testify before the 9/11 commission and BOTH walked out in disgust. Find out why.
Told that the nation was under attack @ 9:06 am, prez bushie continued to sit for ten more minutes, in HARMS WAY, he continued to listen to elementary school children reading aloud about a pet goat. Secret Service is quoted as saying "we're outta here", but someone over-ruled them.
Leaders of the 9/11 truth movement,Professors David Ray Griffin and Steven E Jones are men of GREAT integrity. Did you know that the 9/11 truth movement was nominated for the nobel peace prize in 2008? (betcha didn't know that).
When you understand this treasonous act for what it is, the last ten years make more sense.
Posted by Monte on 05/20/10 08:17 PM
No doubt that 9/11 was an inside job.
No one ever mentions rumsfeld. A half hour after andrew card whispers in prez bush ear "we are at war", rumsfeld like bush SITS (in his office) and DOES NOTHING.
Find out if gen montague winfield (in charge of war room) was hiding in the same pentagon broom closet and be prepared to duck down the rabbit hole.
Posted by Max on 05/10/10 01:09 PM
If you want to know real the truth about the 9/11, I mean the REAL TRUTH, you have to watch the most prohibited movie about the 9/11. Google 'Dimitri Khalezov video' and, in case of good luck, you will find it - though it is being scrubbed off the Internet with lighting speed, from time to time it re-appears here and there. Sometime you can even find download links or torrent trackers. After watching this movie no more questions will remain. You may try this source for the mean time:
Click to view link
Seek and ye shall find.
Posted by NavyBrat on 05/05/10 04:16 PM
@Sidney C. O'Keefe:
Agreed - but the fundamental reason for 9-11 not going away is that, unlike the JFK assassination where even if the truth was suspected it could be dismissed as "Elite Housecleaning", September 11/01 was everyday people being killed for political and financial gain. You find yourself thinking, "There but for the Grace of God ...."
Posted by Mark Humphrey on 05/05/10 03:36 AM
An earlier post stated that the melting point of steel is 1400 to 1500 degress Farenheit. That's incorrect. The melting point is over 2,800 degrees Farenheit--roughly 1500 degress Celsius. Compare this temperature with that yielded by smokey oxygen deprived fires burning kerosene and furniture: about 500 degrees Farenheit. My kitchen oven will do 500.
The steel beams of the exploded WTC did not fall down because "rivets broke". The beams were neatly sliced into consistent lengths of 30 feet. Obviously gravity didn't slice the beams into bite sized portions that just happened to fit nicely on the trucks that hauled them away. Carefully planned demolition was responsible.
Finally, Griffin in his book "Debunking 911 Debunking" recites the long story--together with extensive detail and background--of how the time line of events posted by--as I now recall, NORAD--was changed without notice or explanation. The particular changes were clearly required to cover for particular contradictions in the timeline that served as the official explanation of those events. But the changes to the official timeline, at minimum, prove the first timeline was bulls--t. The second timeline is more bulls--t, riddled with contradictions of its own.
Posted by Sidney C. O'Keefe on 04/30/10 09:18 PM
The conspiracy theories regarding 9/11 will not go away because there are far too many unanswered or inadequately answered questions regarding the event.
Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth are equally convinced that the official explanation of events that day is deeply flawed and that further investigation is required.
More than one member of the original investigating committee has complained that aspects of the day's events [for example, the collapse of WTC-7] were deemed 'off limits' for purposes of their report.
The tone of your article is subtly skewed to malign the integrity and/or investigative credentials of Mr. Griffin. You all but label him 'the problem'!
I am troubled that you have chosen to champion the 'official' explanation of 9/11 and have not bothered to conduct an honest journalistic investigation of the event.
Many sincere and expert investigators suspect that 9/11 was a classic 'false flag' event staged for purposes of inciting the general public to support plans for war.
Surely you know that your readers are intelligent and are not afraid to entertain unpopular or politically incorrect thoughts.
Reply from The Daily Bell
The tone of your article is subtly skewed to malign the integrity and/or investigative credentials of Mr. Griffin. You all but label him 'the problem'!
We've reported on Mr. Griffin in the past. Don't know how you reached your conclusion - unless you attributed the initial text in the article to us. We analyze these texts and sometimes that causes confusion if readers are not familiar with the Bell's format. You might want to review the article once again. Thanks for reading - and writing.
Posted by C.Doran on 04/29/10 07:50 PM
@ Cathy Clifton
"NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD HAS A STEEL BUILDING COLLAPSED DUE TO FIRE.
DO SOME RESEARCH....
I'm sure there were people looking over the rails on the deck of the Titanic saying 'It's ok everyone- never before in the history of the world has a steel passenger liner been sunk by an iceberg."
I wonder why the captain of the ship launched the lifeboats and sent out mayday signals when all he had to do was recite that mantra to himself - and besides, his ship was unsinkable, the engineers who designed it said so. Why do building regulations require structural steel to have fire-retardant coatings?
If things didn't happen for the first time nothing would ever happen.
Reply from The Daily Bell
The steel didn't break, the rivets did.
Posted by Lyle on 04/28/10 02:37 AM
About the extracurricular investigation of 9/11:
Last summer Wired magazine sponsored a contest. A writer disappeared, and the game was to track him on the internet. In a short time thousands of people were trading information on Facebook and Twitter, on blogs, and on websites. They started with the usual techniques investigators use on the internet, but then their collective effort morphed into something new. Within a month, they found him.
The same kind of investigation is being applied to 9/11. This is part of the Untouchables project. Details can be found here-
Click to view link
Posted by Ronald Burcham on 04/28/10 12:15 AM
How can anyone expect an honest result to come out of an investigation of a government investigating itself? That is something that has never happened and never will happen.
What the public needs to know to settle the question once and for all will only be found by an independent, State of New York, citizen's grand jury with subpoena power to call whatever and whoever it decides is necessary as witnesses or material evidence.
Federal agents refusing to cooperate must be extradited if called and if they refuse and, no cooperation is forthcoming from the federal government, then forthwith the sheriff must thereafter, if not before, require all federal investigations, subpoenas, arrests, search warrants, i.e. all federal police activity be approved by his office. (Printz v U. S. 1997) He is the ultimate law enforcement agent in the county overseeing all legal activity in that county, if he has a backbone.
Some rules have to be laid down. The prosecutor for the grand jury can not be anyone on any government payroll or retired from same. The prosecutor must come from the private sector with a salary provided by the state, commensurate to the responsibility entailed.
No person receiving a check from any government, or employed by any company fulfilling a government function, i.e. private construction contractor or road construction, or retired therefrom,will be eligible to sit on the jury.
The jury may not be asked to surrender its subpoena power to the prosecutor by the prosecutor or if asked by the prosecutor or the judge must not surrender it. No member of the grand jury may be removed once seated except for serious health reasons. The jury will have absolute subpoena power and the prosecutor will be subordinate to the grand jury under penalty of felony charges for refusal to obey instructions from the grand jury.
The county sheriff (CLEO) of the county where the grand jury is seated must have whatever legal jurisdiction is required as supplementary to aid the grand jury in fulfilling its task.
The federal government lacks any credibility. In the past it has routinely hidden witnesses necessary to investigations, transferred or fired whistle blowers, manipulated evidence and according to one whistle blower the FBI routinely manufactured evidence. He has since disappeared from the FBI lab he supervised.
Posted by B. Benhamid on 04/27/10 07:06 PM
In plain english, 9/11 was an Inside Job and no genius required to figure it all out.
If it was good for Israel, it had to be real good for some greedy individual bastards in higher places right here in the USA.
This evil stunt had to be well planned and coordinated with various Departments here and abroad to make it work perfectly and leave an everlasting horrendous impression of this event for generations to come.
Sooner or later the truth will come to light unless another false flag much bigger will unfold to divert peoples attention to something even more tragic and satanic.
Sadly it will not bring back the millions of innocent victims murdered in Iraq and Afghanistan by the greedy monsters for trying to install the NWO and for World Domination.
The perpetrators will one day be caught in their own web of lies and hopefully just prior to going to Hell.
G*d help us all and let us all see with both of our eyes.
Posted by C.Doran on 04/27/10 07:00 PM
I have seen the following random selection of evidence presented by people again and again , all over the internet , in blogs, comments, articles. A question - how many of them are true?
-Payne Stewart's jet was intercepted within 17 minutes of going off course.
-Dick Chaney was in charge of NORAD on 911.
-There was a change in protocol for the interception of aircraft in June 2001 which meant that Donald Rumsfeld had to be consulted before action could be taken against hijacked aircraft.
-Some of the hijackers are still alive.
- There was an 18ft hole at the Pentagon, too small to have been made by a large airliner.
-Some of the hijackers were trained at US Naval bases.
-There were only small fires in WTC7.
-A huge explosion pushed Willie Rodriguez upwards when he was in the basement of the WTC tower.
-WTC7 was not badly damaged.
-WTC7 collapsed unexpectedly on 911.
-The BBC report of the collapse of WTC7 20 minutes before it actually collapsed is astounding and inexplicable. The BBC reporter and the newsreader are accomplices to mass murder.
-People were seen carrying something away from the Pentagon in a 'blue box'.
-The Pentagon is the most heavily protected building in the world.
-There were no bodies found at the crash site in Shanksville.
-The PNAC document called for a transformation in the world order that would take time 'absent some new Pearl Harbour'.
-No one saw flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.
-Operation Northwoods involved killing american citizens 'with casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.'
-Rolls Royce said the engine found at the Pentagon was not one of theirs.
- There was only one engine rotor found at the Pentagon.
-The engines of flight 77 'vapourised'.
-The WTC towers fell at 'freefall' speed.
Reply from The Daily Bell
It is hard to say, which is why a new and thorough investigation would be helpful.