War with Iran, Redux, Redux? ...
General Wesley Clark revealed in 2007 that US planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years INCLUDING Iran, Now November 14th 2011 he was on CNN saying how IRAN must be invaded. CNN blew it by showing this video cause now it is out in the open what they are doing. − Youtube
Dominant Social Theme: The war on terror is a terrible thing.
Free-Market Analysis: This interview with General Wesley Clark, recently reposted, deserves a wider audience, in our view. He seems to reveal clearly that the current wars in the Middle East were planned long ago, including the war with Iraq.
For people who believe in directed history, this sort of insight is rarely delivered with such authority. Of course, the video COULD be a fake in ways we cannot anticipate – or even in some sense taken out of context. But Clark surely says some things that are persuasive, in our view.
He also says things that are less than persuasive. This is one reason the words "limited hangout" occur to us. First, he claims he does not know WHY so many wars are being planned. To the military, he suggests, every international problem looks like a nail that can be "solved" with the Pentagon's military hammer.
Second, he reverses himself and claims that the REAL reason to invade these countries is for their "oil." He claims the US is not fighting in Africa because Africa has no oil.
Now, we don't believe Clark's comment that he doesn't know why the wars were planned. And we certainly don't believe that all the world's oil is to be found in the Middle East. There is plenty of oil in the world.
The world is likely SWIMMIING in oil, and Africa, too, in our opinion. (See DB´s Peak Oil analysis.) But it is to the elites' advantage to make it appear as if oil is scarce. They are trying to create food scarcity, as well, and water scarcity. That's how they work. Control people's necessities and you control THEM. (Money included.)
We've been fighting these perceptions for years. There is simply no way in our view that the elites who control central banking give a damn about oil or anything else. What they want is CONTROL on their way to FORMAL world domination. All these scarcity memes they're so fond of are just ways of frightening people into giving up wealth and power.
This proposal is, unfortunately, yet anathema to most people, including those who subscribe to the various phony "isms" that the power elite has scattered about world history like so much misleading, celebratory confetti. No, these isms are not to be celebrated ... up to and including capitalism.
But there's plenty of oil in the world and always has been. The stuff is probably abiotic. Oil, in fact, was likely "discovered" in the Middle East as a way to polarize the military and political situation there. Oil plus the creation of Israel (and the subsequent funding of the Palestinians) has provided the powers-that-be with all the excuses they need to create a major war.
It's also been written about recently that the Anglosphere power elite engineered the coup that led to the current Iranian government, and thus to the current crisis. You can see two articles on this here:
Still, apologists for the current uber-regime will continue to proclaim that "capitalism" is creating wars via greedy corporations. Phooey. The elites want to create WORLD GOVERNMENT and war is merely one tool in their arsenal.
The sociopolitical and economic situation of the 21st century, in fact, simply seems to be a big repeat of the 20th. The most important article we've ever published (and yes, we know they are all probably equally UNIMPORTANT but leave us our illusions!) shows the repetitive patterns clearly (see chart below). You can see the article here: Parallels Between Early 20th Century and Present are Scary.
|Early 20th Century||Early 21st Century|
|• Central Bank Inflation (Roaring '20s)||• Central Bank Inflation (Housing Bubble)|
|• Depression & Progressive Movement||• Depression & Youth Movements Worldwide|
|• Occupy Washington DC (WW I Veterans)||• Occupy Wall Street (Disaffected Youth)|
|• Reichstag Fire||• 9/11|
|• Second World War||• War on Terror Escalating to Bigger War|
|• FDR-Like Figure to Provide Leadership||• Obama, who Models Himself on FDR|
Are they playing with us? Is it all a kind of game with cards that are drenched in blood and human misery? Is the whole global scenario a hoax − one designed to advance the interests of impossibly powerful Anglosphere elites?
Disprove it if you can. In this Internet era (which we call the Internet Reformation) the clues are all over the place. There's a lot of evidence that one would need to debunk. Global conspiracies are likely simply too big to contain once you've lost control of the media, as the elites have lost control.
This has happened before, of course, during the era of the Gutenberg Press. Hey, that's what modern history is all about now. It's a struggle between the elites to suppress information about what they REALLY do and the middle classes who break through the cordon sanitaire every once in a while when new technology is invented that punctures the elite's monopoly control of information.
Right now this information monopoly is falling apart. So many elite fear-based promotions have been debunked! They can't even control big-mouths like Wesley Clark anymore. The damnable evidence keeps coming and coming. This is just one more example ...
Editor´s Note: Tip of an elven hat to "giza" and Dr. JPF who often seems to "get it right."
(Video from Treasuremoment's YouTube user channel.)
Posted by kenn on 11/21/11 08:59 AM
Sorry DB. Most Americans could care less about pretty much anything with maybe the exception of the next Ipad or who's gonna be in the Super Bowl. Sure, you can corner them into agreeing with a few things but as soon as they walk away it's down the old memory hole.
Extreme pain economically, militarily or both might temporarily jolt them out of their trance but by then the country and world will lie in ruin. The PTB,,,,, they will probably survive in any scenario. As before, they just pick up the remains and start again...
Reply from The Daily Bell
We have often projected that the best that can be hoped for is that "they" will have to take "a step back" ... Perhaps they shall. Time will tell ...
Posted by Spectator on 11/21/11 10:28 AM
Clark and his interviewer never get around to questioning at a basic level.
Both rather reflect the elite perspective.
Of course Iran has as much "right" to nuclear power (including nuclear weaponry) in an abstract sense as any other sovereign state.
This does not suit Israel (never mentioned), however, and thus AIPAC dragoons the bought-and-paid-for US congresscrooks to posture belligerently.
It would seem that ONLY the possession of nuclear deterrence (under present conditions) has any hope--apart from submission, of course--of maintaining sovereignty.
Posted by bob on 11/21/11 11:00 AM
Back in 1917-1923, a genocide of the Russian empire people took place. An army of Jewish thugs with American and British Banking Oligarchy money using lies and fraudulent claims that they were socialist who were bringing freedom and prosperity to working people were able to achieve their objectives to destroy the Russian Empire, slaughter its people, and destroy their identities and their culture.
These thugs and their masters (the West Banking Oligarchy - WBO) were able to succeed because people did not have any information about these sadistic gangsters true intention and the West media was, as now, the active player in the crime.
Thanks to Internet, these sources of truth are now/still available to masses. Now, as back in 1917, the West Banking Oligarchy is trying to do something similar to people of America and Europe. However, the availability of information revealing the true objectives, intentions, and plans of the WBO will make their implementation much more difficult. This is only way to save the world from a holocaust of this monsters.
Posted by herrfaust on 11/21/11 11:24 AM
Wow. He sure did a U-turn. I remember telling someone at work we were going to war with Iran in the near future. That was about 2 years ago and he didn't believe me in the slightest.
Ta for the "abiotic oil" pointer as well, DB. This looks interesting!
Posted by timothyprice on 11/21/11 04:32 PM
There have been many reformations; the phenomenon of the Gutenberg press making books so that more people could become educated was one. But the French Revolution, as was the American, were precipitated by the same advances in technology.. printing the ideas of others.. an in the late 18th Century, it was cheap pamphlets which people could print up and pass out. This was a way around the control of the elite who could afford to have books printed. Today, after a century or more of elitist media... papers, radio, television... . we do have the internet. And just as surely as in the past, we will have or reformation/revolution.
Some people have said that huge changes cannot happen overnight. They are wrong. It has taken a long time to prepare for change. But as with past revolutions, when the population has been heated up sufficiently, there is a spontaneous flash-over that nearly instantly mobilizes the population. Leaderless and without taking direction, they know exactly what needs to be done, and they do it.
Posted by David_Robertson on 11/21/11 05:09 PM
Yes, I noticed the misdirection about Africa. The Libya war was all about Africa since Libya is the gate to Africa.
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The discussion on Iran has thus far focused on whether Iran is developing nuclear weapons and the US war party is using the same intimidation tactic as the Iraq war propaganda, that Iran may use their supposed nuclear weapons against the US.
My own interest has been more in what the Iranians are thinking (not what they are saying in public forums since they may be just as untrustworthy in this regard as the US and Israel).
I watched an Iranian government documentary that gave me a fairly clear idea of what they expect to happen and what they plan to do. I though I had saved it but cannot find it. It was in Farsi with English subtitles and gave the Iranian view of what is happening from the point of view of the Hadith, the Islamic written traditions with especial emphasis on their eschatology. Given that Iran is an Islamic Republic organised along religious lines with the Islamic law as their guide it is reasonable to believe that they view their scriptures as being authoritative and will act accordingly.
The message of the documentary is that all the pieces are now in place for the final war and the return of the Mahdi, the Islamic Messiah. The personalities in power have all been foretold and identified. The most critical fact is that Iran will not initiate any attacks on anyone until they themselves are attacked. They will then proceed with supernatural help to defeat their enemies who include Saudi Arabia and Israel and they will raise their flag in Jerusalem.
The reason I find this scenario persuasive is not because I believe this version of the coming world events but because they have a definite view of who will initiate the conflict and it cannot be themselves. Therefore no matter the provocation, as long as it stops short of an outright military assault on Iran, the Iranians will not be provoked into attacking first.
It has also been alleged incidentally that Saudi Arabia has nuclear weapons and an early warning radar system atop Jabal al Lawz the mountain in Arabia claimed to be the one known in the Bible as Mount Sinai.
Posted by piolenc on 11/21/11 07:24 PM
I don't think it's taken out of context or fake. Nor does it indicate a conspiracy - at least, not as I understand that term. The job of strategic analysts in the military is to anticipate and prepare for future wars, including some very remote possibilities. The example cited in military courses is Plan Orange, which was in effect between WW1 and WW2 and provided for the possibility of a war with Great Britain. I doubt that any of the military planners who wrote the plan really believed we would end up at war with the British, but due to the conflict at the highest levels of the US government between anglophiles and anglophobes, it was a possibility, albeit a remote one. Likewise as early as the Seventies it became clear that there was going to be more trouble in the Middle East, either from Islamic fundamentalists (e.g. Khomeini) or from secular dictatorships (e.g. Saddam), and that there was a significant probability that the US military would be ordered to intervene. Any senior officer who would NOT prepare for that eventuality would not be doing his job. That is not quite the same thing as saying that the military pushed the country into it.
Posted by turbomango on 11/21/11 08:09 PM
"... they'll pick up the remains and start again"
and again,... . until they find themselves receiving some of their own Romanoff medicine.
The difference now from the past, is that we didn't know what or who. Now they've exposed their satanic selves and their cruel intentions. When they fail this time, they will pay a heavy price. Their extinction. It's either them... . or US. I have my money... (err... gold), on US.
Posted by Freeman on 11/21/11 11:28 PM
Good for him.
Posted by Freeman on 11/21/11 11:28 PM
Good for him.
Posted by oldman67 on 11/22/11 01:00 AM
the US should declare war on Iran. See how long it will take the US to two million like they did in Iraq. Maybe this time if they use enough depleated uranium they can cause one million deformed babies instead of the 500,000 in Iraq. With each war the military industrial complex get better and more efficient at killing while most of America rejoices like they did with the illegal Iraqi war. Maybe the US can create another Highway of Death. The slaughter on this highway was a master piece by our military.
Posted by gmreese8177 on 11/22/11 11:50 AM
I did a google search "nations without a central bank controlled by Rothschild" and came across several sources that as of 2000, there were only 7: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, North Korea, Cuba, and Iran. These countries somewhat line up with Clark's list. Bottom line, IMO, is that it's all about control. I can see where Syria & Lebanon are necessary to overcome to get to Iran. If the elite subdues the countries on Clark's list, it shouldn't be difficult to pressure North Korea and Cuba into submission. BTW, there's only one candidate for president who is against war with Iran: Ron Paul.
Posted by David_Robertson on 11/22/11 01:39 PM
Here is the link to the Iranian government documentary that I mentioned in my previous feedback:
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