EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW, International Real Estate
Ron Holland: For Freedom's Sake, No More 'Mr. Nice Guy'
By Anthony Wile - September 14, 2014

Introduction: Ron Holland is a contributing editor to several newsletters dealing with political and investing topics and author of several books, including Escape the Pension Trap. Originally from North Carolina, Ron lived in Geneva from 2003 to 2004 and divided his time between the US and Europe until 2012 when he moved to Toronto. Ron has developed and introduced several innovative investment products to investors in the US, including the first Swiss-franc denominated variable annuity portfolio licensed in the US.

In his writing and conference presentations, Ron emphatically advocates global investment diversification into foreign currencies and non-US markets as essential for protection from the US government's growing debt. Holland is particularly concerned about the vulnerability of retirement funds in the US, and consults to leading financial solutions providers seeking to provide viable options for citizens seeking protection. Ron's latest book is Restoring Our American Legacy.

Daily Bell: Good to catch up with you, Ron, and thanks for making time to talk with us today. You recently lived through a significant, life-altering event. Care to tell our readers about it?

Ron Holland: It is sort of embarrassing, to say the least. About 30 years ago my ex-wife nagged me to go to the doctor for a check-up. Everything was fine except for high cholesterol and very high blood pressure. My solution was simply not to go to the doctor again for the next 30 years. This was not one of my better decisions, in retrospect.

My wife, Tami, saved my life in early August this year. After apparently spending at least the last two months with congestive heart failure that I self-diagnosed as a chest cold or walking pneumonia, Tami "forced" me to go to the emergency room while on vacation down in North Carolina. I was pissed, until the attending physician said, "Sir, you are in deep shit." With less than 10% of my heart functioning and kidneys failing, he told me, "You probably wouldn't have lasted two days." You know he got my attention.

Yes, I had felt a little under the weather in recent months with a constant cough and shortness of breath, but I'd moderated sessions and danced the night away at FreedomFest in Las Vegas, hiked somewhat breathlessly through Tuscan mountain villages, spent time with wonderful daughters and grandkids in Toronto and Chapel Hill and joined Heidi, my 17-year-old, high in the Swiss Alps looking for a seminar location.

Anyway, guys, if you have a smart wife I would suggest maybe listening more to her. I must thank Tami for the "kick ass, take control moment." Now I'm at home and starting to write again around my long walks, blood pressure medications and generally healthy eating habits.

Daily Bell: Well, we're grateful to Tami, too! How has it changed your life, so far, in just this short time since you were hospitalized? What's come of it for you personally?

Ron Holland: First, I've always been a very thankful person and appreciative for the wonderful life I've had to date. Now, some of it has been hard work and good choices but a lot of it has been timing and blind luck. I grew up in a very rural farming community and I ended up in the securities business before I went to university, thinking I was applying to be a bank security guard but it turned out to be working in a securities section of a large bank trust department. So majoring in banking and finance at university rather than becoming a forest ranger as I planned was luck and ignorance at the time.

I believe time is precious and we should fight and write to advance freedom and liberty while we have the God-given opportunity. Therefore, I decided that, should I have the chance to write and express my views again, I would say exactly what I believe and to hell with the consequences.

No more nice guy, moderate drivel about the dollar and what was our country but rather the truth about those powerful evil interests who run politics, the financial system and the Western world as well as real history, current events, finance and the dollar. Note, this is not about who is the president, a specific political party, right/left, libertarian/conservative or free-market vs. socialist. These ideas are how those who rule over us make wars and steal global resources as well as our wealth and freedoms, about how we peacefully defend our wealth, liberties and properties from those who have divided and conquered us.

Daily Bell: Yesterday was the anniversary of 9/11. Now, 13 years later, where are we? What has been the lasting impact of the crimes of 9/11 and what do you think is the most valuable thing we've lost as a result?

Ron Holland: Well, first of all, Osama Bin Laden (formerly on the CIA payroll), if he were alive today rather than probably having died of renal failure a few years after 9/11, could certainly claim victory. Although I don't think this guy hiding in a cave in Afghanistan had anything to do with the attack, he was happy to be crowned by our intelligence services as the mastermind of the attack because it made him a hero in the Arab world. He was certainly an enemy of America and, like many ex-employees in the private sector, he was out for vengeance. His goal was to break America financially and destroy our freedoms with a police state and both goals were accomplished thanks to the attack.

The most valuable things Americans lost were our personal and financial freedoms, willingly given up due to the terrorist attack. The lasting impact is that the US is now in permanent war and occupation in the Middle East controlling oil and pipelines.

Daily Bell: Is there a way to restore the liberties lost in the wake?

Ron Holland: No. There is no way to restore the liberties lost in the wake of 9/11, as when they decide to take our remaining freedoms, liberties and wealth another enemy will suddenly appear as needed.

Daily Bell: Any other thoughts about it, looking back over this period of time?

Ron Holland: My final thoughts are how amazing it is that any of us, me included, for a few weeks after the event could believe the official version of the attack. How anyone now after 13 years could stomach the government's story is just beyond me.

We will likely never know the truth in our lifetimes – or maybe I should say your lifetimes to our younger readers (grin). There are so many conspiracy theories it is impossible to know the truth. I have a hunch it could have been the largest insurance fraud event in world history, and we have never been told who bought all the market puts. There is a funny name for that but it isn't politically correct. Just follow the money and those who benefited or were supposed to benefit from the resulting foreign policy actions.

Anyway, I'm tired of reading about 9/11 and all the false propaganda but when you see horrible events like this promoted in almost a religious and dogmatic frenzy for decades following, just know you are being manipulated for money, profit or power.

Daily Bell: How was the response to your latest book, Restoring Our American Legacy? Can people still email you for a copy? Where?

Ron Holland: The book was well read online and it is still available at The Daily Bell, here. For me, there is little profit in books anymore so I usually sell the rights and make a free version available for a limited period of time.

Daily Bell: Will you be another book soon?

Ron Holland: Well, I haven't written a lot lately for the public but I've been working on several manuscripts while I've been under the weather.

Daily Bell: Your thoughts about the independence vote in Scotland?

Ron Holland: First, I've been following the historical independence vote in Scotland and took the opportunity to watch the classic "Braveheart "movie staring Mel Gibson several times along with his second best movie, in my opinion, "The Patriot."

I hope Scotland votes for independence but doubt they will. Every establishment banking and financial institution and elite media talking head from statist, bottom-feeder Paul Krugman on up, as well as all the EU and global political scum have come out against independence. All are threatening every kind of negative economic results including the plagues of ancient Egypt should the people vote for self-determination.

How dare a people try to shake up the world order? There is nothing "new" about the world order. The bottom line is this: Small countries are more free and prosperous than large nation-states. (See, South Carolina? Maybe you should try independence a third time. Just joking. Maybe "the third time is a charm" but really, I wouldn't want to see Charleston nuked.)

Watching the British political elites heading up to Scotland to beg the voters not to leave shows the fear, loathing and desperation of the British political class as well as the weakness of empires like the US, UK and the EU to the lawful right of self-determination for a people and their territory.

Advanced nations like Canada and the United Kingdom are to be congratulated and applauded for allowing a vote for independence for provinces and self-determination, unlike Spain with Catalonia. Or Lincoln with the southern states where 600,000 Americans north and south were slaughtered all to keep import duties and tax competition from a lower tax Southern jurisdiction from competing with the Northeastern manufacturing establishment.

Regardless of whether Scotland votes for independence or continued dependence on the UK, this close vote and the frightened reaction of UK elites shows the fear big nations have of losing taxpayers and tax jurisdictions. In the case of over-indebted nation-states and empires like the USA, when you add the leverage of the threat of debt repudiation by the newly independent entity for their citizens and the new state balance sheet, today we well understand the weakness of big government and their political elites. It's all about the government debt and who pays for it.

Existing countries losing citizens and tax revenues to newly independent but debt-free nations will likely lose their ability to threaten the independent entities.

This is the Washington, London, Madrid and Brussels/EU Achilles heel. Global government bond markets might well determine the economic future of bloated, indebted nation-states even more unable to float their debts with lost territory and tax revenues. This really puts between a rock and a hard place the future of mega-governments' practice of maintaining power only by buying votes and supporters via stealing from future generations. Secession movements combined with the threat of existing national debt repudiation might well be our only chance in the US to control the current all powerful Washington leviathan.

Daily Bell: You continue to be alarmed over the state of the dollar. Last time we spoke (in May), you mentioned the signing of a Russia/China gas deal.

Ron Holland: Yes, and I must mention this is moving far faster than I expected primarily because of US financial penalties on Russia supposedly over Russian actions involving the Ukraine. All of this from the US that originally created and funded the ISIS terrorist group that took our weapons and funding and then turned on us and our puppet government in Iraq.

Sadly, most of the violence and civilian causalities in Iraq and Syria are a result of Qatar's planned natural gas pipeline through Syria to compete with Russia. The Ukraine problems are also a direct result of US covert actions and the need to limit Russian pipelines. All of America's foreign wars and meddling today concern pipelines and oil, and you can forget anything about freedom, representative governments and democracy.

Believe it or not, though, even the Obama Administration is doing a slightly better job than the British government in the area 100 years ago during World War One. I urge readers to buy the national bestseller Lawrence in Arabia by Scott Anderson. The book is described as "War, Deceit, Imperial Folly and the making of the Modern Middle East" and it is the best book I've read about World War One to date.

In my opinion, the Moslems and Christians of the Middle East have been totally screwed by first London and later Washington for 100 years. Both groups deserve better and this is one reason why Christianity is dying in the Middle East. It is a sad time in the world when the only world leader standing up and with the best interests of both groups in mind, although for selfish and nationalist reasons, is President Putin of Russia.

I'll suggest the best way to follow the coming death of the dollar, related to the violence in Iraq, Syria and Ukraine because of the gas and oil pipelines: Start reading www.zerohedge.com daily to keep up with pipeline wars and the coming new axis of Russia, China and India as they build a new Asian center of power, a gold backed currency alternative and new trade agreements outside the dollar.

Daily Bell: You were impressed with Belize as a safe haven last time we talked, and even intended at one point to write a book on the subject. Have you looked at anywhere else recently? Give us more of a sense as to why people should want a safe haven.

Ron Holland: I'm still impressed with Belize as an island safe haven. I've also found a potential domestic safe haven location in the Southeastern US mountains as well as the South American nation of Colombia for Americans who want a safe location should the dollar, Treasury bonds and government services, welfare and employment be reduced. Remember, almost 50% of Americans live off the employment or welfare teat of the federal government.

These people are not used to working for a living but rather have existed off of stolen wealth for their lifetimes and this is multigenerational theft. Many will come and threaten your wealth, life and property when the SHTF so you should have a plan to be out of their way should this take place. I'll finish the book when the Colombia plans and location are finalized.

Note that many – should I say most? – domestic and foreign real estate developments fail because of a lack of capital, questionable sales and development practices and high expectations. Both the Belize and Southeasternrn US safe haven locations already have the infrastructure built and available for added development.

The same can be said for Colombia, as once details are finalized, a country club, fantastic shopping and restaurants, top health care facilities and an international airport are literally minutes away together from the rural mountain location. E-mail me for more information on any of the above if you are interested (rholland@eastnet.ch).

Daily Bell: We've sometimes suggested that most people have about another two years to get their assets and their loved ones out of various Western states, including the US. After that things get much harder. Your thoughts?

Ron Holland: Well, it depends on unknown future events. Speaking for the US, it will be too late when the next real or contrived major terrorist attack on the US takes place. A couple of days after this happens, the United States and your ability to leave, or have funds wired into or outside the country unless you are a major corporation or elite will likely be curtailed. Read "The Final Presidential Executive Order" if you want to know how easily the US could become locked down following a future attack.

Daily Bell: The market keeps running up. Central bankers obviously want another bubble. Why?

Ron Holland: What other choice do they have to buy time for the political and Wall Street establishment? Right now the dollar and stock markets are still going up. Never fight the Fed in the near term. So the Wall Street Party continues for now regardless of longer-term free-market and Austrian economic principles. Never question the ability of powerful governments and financial monopolies to control markets far longer than you estimate.

Daily Bell: What should people put their money in?

Ron Holland: I can only speak for myself but I like gold bullion held personally or outside one's present national jurisdiction. It may be time to begin slightly nibbling at mining and natural resource shares, as they are down so low. Finally, never store gold in a safe deposit box. Right now I'm very excited about several special unique situations ranging from real estate to marijuana.

Daily Bell: Are confiscations coming? Gold? Silver?

Ron Holland: Yes, but the timing depends on a future financial crisis or war situation – remember Franklin Roosevelt's gold theft, and don't doubt this will be done again by Presidential Executive Order. This is why I do not recommend storing gold in bank safe deposit box, as offshore is free from Washington political risk. I have reviewed three offshore gold storage alternatives; if any readers are interested in more information, just email.

Daily Bell: Who runs the US Empire?

Ron Holland: The best I can ascertain, the Washington Empire is run by a cadre of highly intelligent technical types working behind the scenes moving between public, private and think tank employment for a series of sometimes competing special interests both national and international, financial firms and oligarchies. All national politicians are just front men and women to take the credit or public outcry when things go wrong, with little actual political power.

Congress and both political parties have been bought and controlled by these interests since 1913 and their foundations are used to "educate" the American public and voters in order to manipulate public opinion relative to the elites' preferred course of action. Although not every politician is controlled, a majority always are in order to create their public policies and actions. This is why freedom and free-market actions and legislation always lose against statist forces.

Daily Bell: Are the BRICS part of it or are they opposed to it?

Ron Holland: These nations are always looking after their own national best interests. Right now some of the BRIC nations are backing the US Empire but I would estimate all will jump ship as Russia and China get their new currency non-dollar alternatives available on a global basis. Most national leaders and educated citizens know how badly their national wealth and prosperity have been ravaged and stolen by the military enforced petrodollar system.

Daily Bell: When will we see a global currency? Last time we interviewed you, you were doubtful about its appearance anytime soon.

Ron Holland: No, I believe for the next decade or so we will have the dollar, euro and a few others increasingly at odds with the growth of a Russia/China and Asia alternative probably backed by gold, energy reserves and agriculture lands.

Daily Bell: What are your thoughts on bitcoin?

Ron Holland: Here I'm in a real minority of one. I have a lot of friends that think bitcoin is the future of private money and storage of wealth on the planet. I hope they are right but personally, I believe only a currency or store of value backed by a major nation or regional nations with the adequate defensive military might will survive an attack and ultimate destruction by the United States, Federal Reserve and central banking cartel.

Daily Bell: Update us on politics. At one point, you seemed hopeful about Rand Paul. Now?

Ron Holland: I still continue my endorsement of Rand Paul for the GOP presidential nomination in the 2016 election as otherwise I do not plan to vote at all. But do not take my endorsement of Paul as an endorsement or any respect and confidence in the current closed two-party monopoly in the United States. Rand has the potential to be another Ronald Reagan and this is positive for America but we will not change the ultimate direction our nation is heading by votes for either political party or their candidates.

As you will see this upcoming week in Scotland, only a vote for peaceful democratic secession and self-determination has any chance of overthrowing the elite status quo leading the entire West to hell in a hand basket. Otherwise, at least in the US and outside of parliamentary forms of government with multiple parties, there is little chance to effect real political change. This will change should Scotland vote yes for independence and other entities realize secession combined with national debt repudiation really scares the elites and Goldman Sachs/Rothschild entities in the world.

Daily Bell: Is it a good time to buy junior miners yet?

Ron Holland: Again, I would say it is probably time to begin nibbling, as hopefully we are close to the bottom.

Daily Bell: What do you think about the growing cannabis industry?

Ron Holland: As I've said before, I'm high on cannabis as an investment but not literally. While I want to tell you about a coming watershed event that is going to dramatically change the global marijuana industry that is about far more than growing pot for profits, new health benefits or legalization efforts, I simply cannot go into detail on this right now but maybe in a few short weeks. This could create a major economic impact and multi-generational fortunes for early investors that truly are of historical proportions.

For example, only tobacco saved the original Jamestown colony from total bankruptcy and collapse. How would you like to be able to go back in history to the early 1600s and become a large shareholder in the first major export from what is now the United States? The Virginia Company, also called the London Company, started the global tobacco industry.

Another analogy might be the later East India Company that created Earl Grey tea and the worldwide tea industry in trading from India to the entire British Empire. Even our American Stars and Stripes flag came from a similar East India Company flag.

Also, consider the Dutch East India Company that brought spices to Europe from Southeast Asia. The possibilities of this economic event are of historical proportions like the early trading companies that brought tea, spices, coffee and tobacco to the Western world.

Millions should consider the growing list of medical benefits from proper cannabis use. So I'm high on the economic and financial benefits to accredited investors in this exciting new growth industry.

Daily Bell: Should people consider a cannabis buy-in while central banks are still pumping securities marts? How do you see the opportunity expanding? What are factors to consider regarding cannabis investing?

Ron Holland: Yes, it's certainly worth considering but remember that all startups are risky ventures and you should be prepared to risk losing all of your investment. The survivors will be companies that can compete at the lowest cost and overcome the regulatory hurdles of shipping, import and labeling. This is all I can say on the subject right now but if you want to know more I'm happy to put you on an email list.

Daily Bell: How long does this bull have to run generally?

Ron Holland: Well, are you talking about the fake bull market on Wall Street created for political re-election purposes for politicians or the more narrowly defined bull markets created by unique market forces? These are two separate situations. Many investors have gone broke betting against the power of Wall Street and central banks to keep the rally going. I don't have a clue so when you invest in equity startups, find unique special interest situations that should prosper and grow regardless of central banking actions at home or on a global basis.

Daily Bell: Can political events stop it? Are we going to see war with Russia?

Ron Holland: No. America will not go to war with Putin and Russia and neither will the European Union or NATO. This is all talk and bluster on the part of the United States. There are two historical names that sum up why the West will not go to war with Russia: Napoleon and Hitler. Plus, Putin is probably the best political leader in the world since Ronald Reagan.

Daily Bell: How about ISIS and the Middle East? Is ISIS a "false flag"?

Ron Holland: ISIS was an American creation to bring down the government of Syria and they turned against us. I don't think they were a false-flag operation but their actions today can be used to create a future false-flag operation, as we are desperate to invade to promote the Qatar pipeline, as I've said elsewhere.

Daily Bell: The West is obviously inciting war. Will they succeed in igniting a generalized war against Islam?

Ron Holland: The US desperately needs a war for two important reasons. First, to create an ongoing crisis situation necessary to provide Washington cover for massive wealth confiscation; second, to provide a scapegoat nation or nations that our politicians can use to blame the coming death of the dollar as the world reserve currency and our petro-dollar scam, as it is ending quickly now.

I don't think we want a generalized war against Islam but rather we need other real nations to blame, e.g., Russia and/or China, where the outrage and hate can be directed. When the dollar dies the central bankers, powerful money interests and major politicians will be hated far more than they are despised now. This must be avoided and thus a scapegoat will be created, the necessary black-flag operations will be implemented and many people will die just to protect those really responsible for the coming downfall of America.

So Washington prefers a short, small war with limited objectives. It was the same at the start of World War One as well as for Hitler in retaking a few nations and people that had been forcefully removed from Germany at the Treaty of Versailles. Wars are easy to start but difficult to control or finish.

But I do believe the antiwar movement in Europe and the US will be helpless to stop a war once it starts. Hermann Goering understood war all too well and his quote below on war is well worth reading and remembering.

Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY.

– Goering at the Nuremberg Trials

Daily Bell: We see the progress of the Internet Reformation and despite the gloom we are optimistic. We believe people are waking up. Your thoughts?

Ron Holland: Yes, worldwide the people are waking up but specifically in the United States, there currently is no ability for the people to really effect change on major issues and policies through the present political system as it is organized.

The Scotland independence vote is a good case in point. Can you imagine Washington politicians ever allowing the people of a state to vote for secession and independence if they had a chance of winning?

Of course not because even the risk of a state withdrawing from the union and leaving all the national debt created by the Washington politicians with the Washington federal government where it really belongs would collapse the US treasury market. Actually, even the threat of states leaving the union and the national debt would crash the government bond market and it would be quite a spectacle to watch the president and cabinet traveling to such states begging instead of threatening for a change. The threat of peaceful secession and opportunity for citizens state-by-state to escape the coming collapse of the dollar and Treasury debt is the only leverage Americans have against the controlled federal government.

Daily Bell: We see the decriminalization of cannabis as evidence of this. Agree?

Ron Holland: Yes. The horrendous drug laws and their use to profit the prison industry lobby, law enforcement and the legal profession at the expense of mostly poor and minority members of society is a hidden, mostly racist tragedy in America. After all, the US has by far the largest percentage of its population in jail of any nation in the entire world.

But change is coming because the Internet allows anyone interested in the subject to learn the truth about medical benefits of cannabis and the negatives to society from prohibition. I've certainly changed my views on the subject because of the Internet.

To date, American drug laws have primarily benefited the legal profession, prison industry, law enforcement funding, crime syndicates and politicians through graft and payoffs. This is now changing here and globally.

First, the prisons are now packed full of poor and minority populations who are the prime recipients of drug-related sentencing because they can't buy their way out. America has the largest percentage of prison population per capita in the entire world.

Second, the federal and state governments and politicians are desperate for revenues and they see the potential tax revenues from legalizing marijuana far exceeding the payoffs and benefits from the legal profession and prison lobbyists, criminal elements, law enforcement etc.

Third, marijuana has been smoked by a large percentage of the population and there is no need for providers to fund a massive advertising budget to create a market in this sustainable green industry. The only advertising needed will be for market share and brand awareness.

Fourth, there are real medical benefits from cannabis usage and as the benefits are becoming more well known from the alternative media these medical needs will be met. This can become an important source of government revenue just as hard narcotics helped fund the British Empire.

Fifth, legalization will cut criminal elements out of a major part of their revenue, transferring the bulk of the revenue to the bankrupt federal government.

Sixth, just as alcohol probation failed and actually increased the demand, so has the long prohibition of marijuana. Government can't control the distribution so they might as well make it an important revenue generator through taxes, regulation and control combined with more funding to curb the real drug problem, which is hard drugs.

While the logic of grow-your-own and localized mom-and-pop marijuana farming and distribution like vegetables and other cash crops might be preferable to the population, this will never happen; too much revenue will be lost in a private, free-market, farm-to-table environment. Government will demand massive control and regulation to such an extent that small growers will likely be forced out of the equation – and herein lies the profit potential for major producers initially, and later, as big pharma and other big players with political power buy up the large, independent producers.

Finally, the producers likely to benefit and prosper the most from marijuana legalization will be based in jurisdictions with the lowest costs of production. This could benefit several countries in Latin America, especially.

Daily Bell: Thanks for your time, Ron. We really are grateful to have been able to sit down with you again.

After Thoughts

Ron Holland as usual makes a lot of good points in this plainspoken interview – encouraging ones as well. We're glad he decided to speak his mind. He always does, but given his health scare and determination to speak out, we found this interview to be especially eloquent.

Among his most interesting points was his comment on the nature of Washington's serial wars and the preference for smaller ones. We've long maintained that the invention of the atom bomb rendered warfare a far less useful tool for extending and manipulating state control.

Washington may want smaller wars but modern war is almost always used to manipulate public opinion and consolidate the power of the war-makers. In this regard, large wars work better than small wars. But thanks in part to the Internet, current militarism is not yet whipping up domestic audiences, certainly in the West, the way previous "world wars" did.

Over the long term, Ron believes that citizens will be helpless against the rising tide of warfare. But limited warfare may not be as effective with domestic audiences as world wars were in the 20th century.

This goes for the war on drugs as well. Once again, we see that the Internet has made "war" more difficult. Power brokers who benefited from the war on drugs, certainly in the US, may have come to the decision that a reconfiguration of legal stances as regards drugs was preferable to the status quo.

Even the Scottish vote on independence can be seen through the lens of an awakening population. Regardless of its success or failure, the issue of secession has now galvanized international attention and thus, we would expect additional agitation elsewhere as a result.

In this interview, Ron makes it clear that he intends to continue to speak out for freedom and to educate people as best he can about lost liberties and about how people ought to adjust their lifestyles to recognize new realities. His effort to offer information about safe haven properties in Belize, the Southeastern US and Colombia is yet another example of how he tries to act on his convictions. Our best wishes for his continued good health.

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  • Bill Ross

    RH: “Note, this is not about who is the president, a specific political party, right/left, libertarian/conservative or free-market vs. socialist”

    Of course not. The above are all about the control fray attempting to rationalize “rule of some men, enslaving other men” by sophistry making it “appear” to be “tolerable” to the governed that it is “better THEM, than me” (rule by divide and conquer).

    Well, also “sounded good” to the Germans and the Nazis became “the executive”, doing what they do best: executing. A lot of hardship, money and power went to “solving” the Nazi “problem” and, the “last untouched industrial power” became quite powerful, rebuilding the devastation that, in historical hindsight was fostered by financial “powers” who intended to and, actually did benefit. Now, they want more and, are attempting a re-run, at the expense of “we, the people”, planetwide.

    It boggles the mind that, “we, the fools” have not completely and utterly rejected our subverted / lobotomized “educations” and information environments. We consider the restricted “choices” “offered” by parties claiming to be concerned regarding us, but offering only varying “packages” / flavors of servitude. Anyone who does not consent to the predominant “consensus” regarding the decree of man rules and identity of the master predatory force du jour is cast as an enemy of humanity, a terrorist, not by deeds, but, by so called theoretical “danger” (thanks, social “scientists”) posed to the body politic, by the “risk” (pre-emptive “justice”) posed by those who “may” act in a criminal manner, if they are “allowed” the freedom to be so.

    So, we are at: we must be slaves, in a prison of compulsions (regulatory democracy), else, we “may” cause harm. Well, this state of affairs harms us and civilization and, clearly, harm leaves zero choice but blowback defense, proportioned sufficient to stop the harm. Ponder this, when fools consider the virus of war spreading, planetwide. Somebody started it and, there are REAL answers to “cui bono”.

    It does not take much pondering to understand that those who use “rule of law” for pretexts / excuses are and have been for a very long time exercising “rule of arbitrary man” (them) and, there is absolutely zero factual / moral credibility (no clothes) for the emperors actions / position. Well, the “rule of law” once used to be respected by the dominant power (we, the people, in our own peaceful lives and affairs) and, it is this suppressed lack that is collectively dooming us and civilization to “war of all, against all”:


    Clearly, this “epiphany” will never be voluntarily acknowledged by predators and their dependents within hierarchical “might is right” command / control systems, at least until they have “no other choice”.

    …and, this can only be achieved by “Plan B”, one heart and mind at a time. YOU are master of your own destiny, should you choose so (carpe diem):


    There are always choices, “interesting times” will be the consequence, regardless.

  • Bill Ross

    RH: “His goal was to break America financially and destroy our freedoms with a police state and both goals were accomplished thanks to the attack”

    Of course, Osama clearly stated the how and why’s, when interviewed by the Observer in 2002:


    From the survival perspective of US peoples and, the west, in general, this was clearly a dire warning regarding consequences (blowback), should they not rein in their predatory rulers. From the perspective of MIC and those who profit by creating and waging conflict, this was clearly and opportunity (pretext) to further consolidate wealth and power using created “terror of the governed” and fake “bogeymen”, funded and empowered by those who profit by pretending to “deal with it”.

  • Bill Ross

    RH: “No. There is no way to restore the liberties lost in the wake of 9/11, as when they decide to take our remaining freedoms, liberties and wealth another enemy will suddenly appear as needed”

    clearly, I have already “begged to differ” (previous post). As the “cost” integrates and it becomes more survival threatening to “obey” than to choose “or else”, the pushback of the “unseen hand”, our collective choices will eliminate the “proceeds of crime” and, the perps will lack resources to defend from their prey, be unable to pay their “standing armies” (eating of our sustenance, making us beggars at our own tables) and dependents with anything but “empty promises”. “Full faith and credit” has already been exhausted among the intelligent.

    • RED

      I am in full agreement!!

      I suspect that……perhaps……the ‘all is lost’ philosophy may, to some extent, be a promotion that facilitates someone’s “services & products”.

      I recall taking issue with some of the earlier positions alleging that there would be no difference in who won “the” election and no Ron / /Rand Paul = do not vote. I subsequently pointed out the utter devastation to many of our remaining freedoms & liberties caused by “sitting out the vote”. Yes, it was an “I told you so” moment. The response……”have a drink”……”have a drink”!?!?!?!…… is that the best that could be offered? A vote to the “right” no matter how slight the difference is generally preferable to a vote to the “left”. Yes, almost all of “them” are politicians, but even that can be changed with sufficient incremental (and not so incremental) pressure from the “public”. Education of the “masses” to free markets thinking is one of the fundamental keys to realizing the desired change.

      What I am advocating is implementation of the consistent and inexorable push back that will incrementally takes us in the direction of less government, less restrictions and much more Liberty and Freedom. If opportunity arises to make larger more significant “gains”……Take Them! (Some form of Secession and removal of tax base is a great idea.) (Elimination of the indoctrination by public ‘teachers unions’ would be a big step forward as this is one of the main entities that is mis-educating youthful potential voters). Complete elimination of Socialism / Communism / Regulatory Democracy (crony capitalism = communism) and all of the other forms of “Fascism” is the desired end goal. (Starve the beast!)

      Not participating (pushing back) and running away may not take us there……and……one may run out of places to run and hide. Yes, while a complete collapse of the existing “power structure” may be satisfying to watch and might allow the opportunity to create a more free society……can anyone really guarantee what will take its place?!

      Of course I am also preparing for the “worst”……but I will continue to Push Back and Educate.

      • Praetor

        Yes. There really is no such thing as Teachers anymore, they are just bureaucrats, over paid babysitters. “We the People”, repeated the same old mistake, we gave up the education of our children to the government,” AGAIN”. With the same results a dumb down population who only follow the leader and do as their told. This (education) we can blame on ourselves, because we keep repeating the same mistake over and over. One solution when the so-called teachers go on strike let them strike till they starve to death, another way, EVERY parent pull your children out of these worthless schools and educate them yourselves, of course this will not happen. BUT, who knows what the future holds. I feel the school houses will be empty, because, there will be no money to keep them open and that may save us all.

  • Bruce C

    Out of frustration I sometimes say that we/people get what we deserve, and I was so disappointed in the way people cowered in fear after 9/11 and went along with abominations like the Patriot Act and Homeland Security. Fortunately, a little more spunk was demonstrated against “TARP” and “ObamaCare”, even though Congress forced them through anyway. Now, people have the opportunity to not fall for these endless wars, and so far they seem not be. Iraq was clearly anything from a boondoggle to a deception – pick your poison – but certainly not how it was officially portrayed so, ironically, people from just about every worldview are coming to the same conclusions, which is to say “NO” and “STOP”. “NO MORE.”

  • Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth has selected their film festival winner of 2014, “Anatomy of a Great Deception” which is a methodical presentation of evidence of controlled demolition and the players responsible. The Veterans Today website has multiple articles on this preplanned, state sanctioned, provocateur act of TREASON. Mentioning any of the obvious defects, such as the sudden collapse of the 47 story WTC-7 for no apparent reason still provokes a vitriolic response on most websites. If you are aware of the defects in the directed 911 narrative, then it is incumbent on you to explain the “means, methods and motives” of the crime syndicate that has perpetrated this evil to those that can be objective.

    We will win Universal Freedom….one mind, one PC/Mac at a time….only with YOUR assistance.

  • “Wars are easy to start, but difficult to control”. So is inflation, and, to an even greater degree, so is a financial panic.The great successes the manipulators have enjoyed for decades – centuries – is remarkable, as is their absolute control of “free markets” in the current environment. I maintain that their very success will be their undoing. Thank you Ron (and The Bell), keep up the good work and the good fight. The truth – once it starts to make its way – is also difficult or impossible to control. It is only because the truth is so horrible that the public is still so resistant to it. As Hitler correctly said, a big lie is more easily believed than a small one, and The American Public has been deceived with one big lie after another since 1913.

  • Gil G

    Cue the “they came for the xyz but we did nothing because we weren’t xyz” lines. How did they do nothing in the early 20th century while the fascist governments slowly wrapped its tentacles around societies? Oh wait that’s what happening today but no one is lifting a finger to stop it. Oh well. The Internet is going to make a difference? Nah. The Internet is good for people to give a false sense of doing something (e.g. clicking of a “Like” button) without actually doing anything productive. After all, free thinkers of the late 1700’s changed the Western world without any modern technology to aid them.

    • The free-thinkers of the 1700s marked the penultimate influence of the Gutenberg Press, which found one of its most lucid assertions in Thomas Jefferson’s Declaration of Independence. The Internet Reformation is now well underway. Wait.

    • Bill Ross

      “without any modern technology to aid them”

      what aided them was the survival motivation due to the predatory grip. Same with us once THEY MUST reneg on their “promises” of “other people’s money” to their dependents (entitled) and, of course, cannot pay their standing armies of meddlers.

      after all, current mad printing of fiat (false “promises to pay”) is just to adapt to already lost productivity (de-motivation) and, taxpayer blowback that has already occurred. The “game” is far more advanced, towards the finale than THEY would have you believe:


      and, “nobody is lifting a finger” ‘cuz, profiting from violent dissent or futilely whining to them is THEIR “business case”. Shrugging is far more effective and, just. THEY will meet their demise by their own hand, infighting to be master predator, divided and impoverished by the costs as they hoped for us. Then with predatory impediments removed, it will be Renaissance II until we again lose vigilance, under the false impression that a periodically recurring historical problem (predators rationalizing / imposing control) has been solved.

      • Dave Meekhof

        “Shrugging is far more effective and, just.”
        That pretty much describes me, though I am still highly effective and productive, just closer to home and business. The world can wait. I sure am glad you are on this blog…poking and prodding me to stand up strait.

        • Bill Ross

          ditto 4 your perspective,highly valued.

    • Dave Meekhof

      So the internet hasn’t helped you, me or anyone else unclog the psychological, freshwater pipeline? And the Gutenberg press (circa 1450) wasn’t ‘technical’ in it’s day? Did it aid or have any effect for the 1700’s technical free thinkers? Please don’t swear off bath water because the baby soiled it. Draw new water and have patience.

    • Don Duncan

      “… without any modern technology … “? First, free thinkers only needed the tech their oppressor used, e.g., the printing press. Also, with 98% literacy and 100% distribution, “Common Sense” spread the word of Thomas Paine and others. It might have been more influential than the ‘net is today. We won’t know just how influential the ‘net is until we look back with hindsight. What we do know is that the influence will be worldwide. Will we have a world government, or a world renaissance? “… without actually doing anything productive… “? You can’t tell where the productivity of enlightenment will take us. That’s why it is called: “The Invisible Hand”. Try reading a little Austrian economic theory.

    • Bruce C

      Consciousness forms its reality.

  • Praetor

    We all should realize or maybe we do, the Elites are out to change “Natural Law”, this has been the goal for, who knows how long.
    Arthur W. Calhoun, A Social History of the American Family; from Colonial Times to the Present. He writes: The new view is that the higher and more obligatory relation is to Society rather than to the Family, the Family goes back to the age of savagery while the State belongs to the age of Civilization. The modern Individual is a World Citizen, served by the World, and Home interest can no longer be Supreme. Insane is he not. Another example. Tom Knight, MIT Professor, AI Lab: The Genetic Code is 3.6 Billion years old, it’s time for a re-write. Insane he be. I could put 100rds of examples like these, but won’t. These are just two of the Elites acolytes, these two shows the true nature of the Elites and their desire to say what “Natural Law” “IS” and their wish to be the Unseen Hand that controls all of Human events, this is what they won’t. The answer to them and anyone who think “Natural Law” can be changed comes from C.S. Lewis, he writes about “Natural Law”: It is the sole source of all judgment. If it is rejected, all value is rejected. The Rebellion of new Ideologies against the TAO (Natural Law); is a Rebellion of the Branches against the Tree, if the Rebels could succeed they would find that they had Destroyed themselves. Let us hope they destroy themselves and they can shove their form of Civilization. Survive, the world will be better when their gone.

    • Dave Meekhof

      Good post, but they’ll never be gone. At best, it will be proven that those who stop lending them power will be better off in the long run. Those who stop lending their power can now, more easily band the ideals of truth together, thanks to the internet. Time will show.

    • Earl of Isadore

      Praetor, your hope was shared by Mary Shelley, who wrote a wishful ending for her novel Frankenstein, in which both the creator and the monster are stricken with remorse and the monster self-destructs.

      CS Lewis anticipated a future of “men without chests”, and that day is here (the book is The Abolition of Man). Unfortunately, the people who have a void where their heart used to be are in control of fearsome weapons and of the gulag and its supporting apparatus.

  • ZebBlanchard

    Ron Holland is not the first to mention the “mountains of the southeastern U.S.” as a possible safe haven. It is assumed he is referring to the southern Appalachians of east TN, western NC, and possibly north Georgia. But due diligence and good research is a must before committing to this area. TN, for instance, rates either first or fourth in corruption, depending on who is doing the ratings. Meth production is a major “industry” in this area and is often controlled by the local sheriff. The judiciary operates in tyranny and runs its own “industry”, of incarceration. And the corruption is supported by legislation on the state level! Paying “protection money” to be safe in a “safe haven” doesn’t make sense.

    • Matt Honl Milwaukee WI

      Zeb, I appreciate your input concerning “mountains in the southwest U.S.” I was considering Burnsville N.C. ‘Mountain Air’ is
      a fly-in community with their own small air strip, extremely close to town (Burnsville) and only 30 minutes from Ashville N.C.

  • Danny B

    Ron, congrats on catching your problem in time. You really should NOT take blood pressure medication. There is plenty of info on the net to show this very clearly. You SHOULD look into IV chelation. It cleans ALL the gunk out of the arteries. DR. Whittaker has a very good clinic that does this chelation. http://www.whitakerwellness.com/

    As far as Scotland and all the 2 legged hyenas predicting dire consequences, “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”
    The Scots know desperation when they hear it. Like the Aussies, they may throw a spanner in the works just to see what happens.

    As far as Belize goes, it is extremely dangerous. The third most dangerous country in the world.
    http://edition.channel5belize.com/archives/97772 I drove there many years ago and it is in fact,,, very dangerous. That said, the islands of Belize are relatively safe.

    I drove to Colombia also. At one time 50% of the kidnappings in the world took place in Colombia. The problem with Colombia is that you are never far away from FARC or the narco traficantes. See Mosquito Coast; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mosquito_Coast

    Re: cannabis, I think that all of you are making a major miscalculation. You think that small time growers will be squeezed out. Look at bathtub gin and moonshine. If possession isn’t illegal, how can growing be made illegal? If growing is made illegal, it will take tremendous resources to enforce and burn up all the proceeds from taxation. If the price is driven way down, there will be no great profit for dealers. If there is no particular profit motive, people will just plant seeds everywhere.

    • max

      I absolutely agree with your point about cannabis. The quantity needed for personal consumption can be produced in a back-yard or even in a balcony. Most people will plant and care for their own plants, just like my mother does for its basil and parsley. And they will proudly share a joint with their friends extolling the virtues of their pot, just like my mother with her spaghetti or pizza.

      • Bruce C

        Yes, and if that is not allowed then the same old, same old persists yet at a more insidious level. All of the same problems/grips about marijuana illegality will still exist but at a more insidious level. The only “advantage” of cannabis/marijuana legalization is the tax revenues and profits of legalized/regulated businesses. All the rest about freedom to “toke”, etc. is a pathetic consolation.

        I don’t think the analogy with alcohol and prohibition is apt except for the tax/business aspect. The big difference is that recreational alcohol products are not “natural” in that they require an elaborate distillation process, etc. that is not easy or practical to create on a small/personal scale, whereas cannabis/marijuana products are and so “should” be allowed but probably won’t be, hence the same legal restrictions as we have now in terms of use, possession, and distribution.

        As they say, ‘The more things change the more things stay the same.’

  • RED

    I have quickly reviewed Ron’s new book and he has substantially “redeemed” himself in my “eyes”.
    “No more ‘Mr. Nice Guy’ ” is most certainly the correct message for these current times”
    I will promote this book and Ron and make good use of it as instructional reference.

  • Danny B

    Oh Great Bell, I found an excellent interview from PCR, Mr. Roberts. He talks about gold and sanctions and a couple of other things. One very important subject that he explains is; The FED no longer allows corporations to count Muni bonds as an asset. They can still count corporate bonds but, not munis.

    Dr. Roberts seem to think that munis will be allowed to crash so that the banks can asset-strip the cities and states, especially the pension funds. Should the bankers strip the pension funds, they will find a potential terrorist behind every blade of grass.
    Reportedly, non-Fed gov has a HUGE portfolio and lots of cash. http://cafr1.com/

  • Ben Titshaw

    Its always good to hear from Mr. Holland. After never receiving his Safe Haven book I wondered what was going on. Now I know that his health has been the issue. My thoughts and prayers go out to him so that the world has this great mind for many decades to come.

  • desert sage

    History of the Jews clearly illustrates that we are created to serve G-d, living by His instructions.
    In the times of the first Temple, it was Heaven on Earth for the Jews, all were 100% observant. Since, defilement has sentenced us to chastisement from Above.” All comes from G-d. ” [ Ezekiel ]
    Satan’s mission is to bring us to our knees, so that we will cry out, and embrace our Creator’s instructions. [ Torah, = instructions ] All else has failed, and will continue to fail. The World situation mirrors the enslavement of the Jews in ancient Egypt. The Jews were at the 49th gate of impurity, [ total defilement ] the situation was unbearable, brought to their knees, they cried out, and were delivered by a mighty hand. The ruling elite are Satan’s willing Generals, dedicated to bring us to our knees, individually, and collectively. Satan’s mission is to ” bring in the flock.” [ to G-d ] Our only hope for Divine intervention and salvation, is to get it right with G-d, and each other. This world is G-d’s ” Boot camp ” to learn to live in G-d’s ways. We are, one diverse family, all men share the Y chromosome, proving origination from One source. There is no greater joy, security, and peace of mind, than living by our Creator’s instructions. ” In the end of days, the World will be ruled by tyrants.” And indeed it is… we are at the threshold of redemption. All is G-d’s will according to our free choice and deeds. [ measure for measure ] We would experience the Garden of Eden on Earth, all that stands in the way, is non compliance. Jewish history woven with life experience illuminates my words. May G-d bless and protect you. Ultimately, all is for our spiritual ascent. There are two paths, straight & narrow, long & winding.

  • max

    “more funding to curb the real drug problem, which is hard drugs”.

    Who’s supposed to do the curbing?

    Is this guy supposed to be a libertarian?

  • Burticus

    It is remarkably insightful of Mr. Holland to mention the northern industrialists’ war against southern independence and recognize that secession is the only political solution available to the formerly-sovereign entities known as states, now absorbed into the consolidated gubbermint of the United State_, as the anti-federalists feared.


    • Bruce C

      Indeed, States’ secessions are, in fact, a “Constitutional right” or duty if that is what it takes.

      “When, in the course of human events, it becomes
      necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected
      them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate
      and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature’s God entitle them,
      a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare
      the causes which impel them to the separation.”

  • rahrog

    “Secession movements combined with the threat of existing national debt repudiation might well be our only chance in the US to control the current all powerful Washington leviathan.” This is the most important sentence of the interview. As far as “national debt” goes, whose debt is it? It most certainly is not the debt of my children and grandchildren. At some point, folks will begin leaving Uncle Sam’s debtors’ prison for The Gulch. Thank you DB for another outstanding interview.

  • Kuuleimomi

    Very well put. Understanding, understood. This article is a keeper. And worth sharing which I shall do right now.

  • Alice Maxwell

    Ron Holland’s exposition is first class,particularly when he gets into the history of tobacco, spices, tea and he should have added Hemp! Here is your prospectus for investing in cannabis!

    As for foreign places to hide. I do not believe there are any for us. The Brit Secret Services have tagged almost all, have officials, even families, especially in South America and Southeast Asia, “monitoring who comes and goes and what capital they throw in the pot” that the SS ultimately owns. If you just look at the people who have run the treasuries for these third world nations, you will find most are really Brits who conveniently change their names for the job at hand and Columbia, like Argentina and Ecuador, are prime examples of this.

    The march to the New World Order did not begin in this century. It began with the last crusade and although defeated three times in Europe, has kept to its program of conversion so well that it now owns approximately one and a half billion people and now menaces another billion. No other movement in history has done that!

    Your elites are not the Rothschilds, Goldman Sachs, Goldsmith or Goldschmidt today…they are the leaders of the Caliphate and just watch as they decimate what is left of us! They own us, have Washington, London, Paris, so what else is left? Russia, China and India have a plan but their’s may be too late. There are no christians left to give a damn, and there are no jews either!

  • the one

    Ron made some very salient points in this piece. I do not see the secession movement gaining any traction here any time soon. I fear at this point only armed uprising could throw off the yoke of the Power Elite who farm us like cattle for their own amusement and profit. I guess I’ve become a pessimist in my old age?

  • I hope Scotland votes for independence but doubt they will. Every establishment banking and financial institution and elite media talking head from statist, bottom-feeder Paul Krugman on up, as well as all the EU and global political scum have come out against independence. All are threatening every kind of negative economic results including the plagues of ancient Egypt should the people vote for self-determination.

    Here be a short video interview with a Scot who recognises the desperate shenanigans of such global political scum as infest media scenes and earthly places, RH/DB …… http://youtu.be/4WWtRmSJFLs

    And there is a lively intelligent opposition and competition to current failing establishment and failing establishment currency command and control in the minds and heart of Scotland too, with this being just one voice sharing the common view from there …..http://www.craigmurray.org.uk

    Certainly what the present rapidly failing establishment order of and/or in an ignorant and/or arrogant Western Elite team of string pulling puppet players does not need, is an elusive stealthy anonymous underground movement of titanic enigmatic proportion leading a counter revolutionary zeal to new heights and fabulous conquests, although, having just said that, is it exactly what they need ….. and their simple command and control lever is to seed and feed it with their failing flash cash currency stash.

    Follow the money in that secure private portfolio of proprietary global investments, to try to see who is pulling levers and drivering trains and launching space ships on and into those Strange Novel and Noble Future Missions in Virtual Team Terrain and the Live Operational Virtual Environment of Creative CyberSpace Command and Control of Computers and Communications, and you will be spotted coming long before you even know it exists, and you will be protected from all harm to server the Greater IntelAIgent Game and ITs Supply Provision of the Greater Good/Sweet Sticky Bounty/Immaculate Source Presentation.

  • the_IRF

    Who Owns America? Who Owns All The Corporations?
    Have you seen these links yet?

    You Must NOT Know This.
    Shall the Hidden be seen?
    Shall the Untouchables go away?

    “The CAFR Swindle – The Biggest Game In Town”

    This is a surprise for me:

    “Was the Spotlight News Paper targeted for elimination?”

    I found the above link from:

    “How foolish are we? Is the US government awash in money about
    which we are in the complete dark? Is the reason that corporations are in bed
    with the government because the government owns the bed?”


  • Kansas Bright

    You are incorrect when you stated that “there is no way to restore the liberties lost…”.

    There is a constitutional method. It is called the Militia. The Militia of the several states are the ONLY constitutionally recognized defender of, and enforcer to:
    – Enforce the US Constitution and each state’s Constitution,
    – Enforce and keep the “Laws of the Union” (which is constitutional laws ONLY, all the others are “color of law”, pretend laws – but that is for another comment.),
    – Protect the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
    – “to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

    The US Constitution guarantees to each state that it keeps its own distinct government, but it has to be its own “Republican form of government”. It is every state’s Militia that is the ONLY Constitutionally assigned force to “counter Invasions” and “Domestic Violence” within our nation.

    So who are the “Militias” of the several states? We are. All US citizens and those legally allowed to be here in America are constitutionally charged to train to be able to do all that was listed above. Hopefully you will look at the unalienable 2nd Amendment with new eyes:

    “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

    Now the evidence that what I said above is true, starting with the US Constitution. The Preamble to the US Constitution starts with:

    “We the People of the United States do ordain and establish this Constitution”,

    By those words it is saying that “We the People” are the source of any and all legal status of the state and federal governments. “We” created them for specific purposes, and it was NOT to destroy our lives, control us, spy on us, track us, or murder us. Basically all public officials – state and federal representatives, state and federal law enforcement, state and federal judges, the multitude of state and federal bureaucracies – are called “public servants” for a reason – they are literally our hirelings, and many are “temporary workers” or “seasonal” – long seasons I admit.

    The US Constitution and all that is “in Pursuance thereof” it, as the supreme (highest) law of this land in the areas where it was given jurisdiction says that “We” (as the Militia of the several states) are personally responsible for maintaining and protecting the US Constitution, each state’s Constitution, and seeing to their enforcement against ALL foes – domestic and foreign. “We” are the ones responsible for enforcing the laws of this land, and are charged with it’s defense plus the defense of our homes,
    neighborhoods, cities, counties, states, and country.

    It says it here within the Constitution of the United States of America:

    US Constitution, Article I, Section. 8, Clause 11: “To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water”.

    The congress has the duty to grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal when they are needed to enforce the US Constitution, the
    laws, or defend the people and the nation. This is using private citizens in their own privately owned crafts to defend the USA and her people, this is using the Militia.

    Clause 12 was put in as a lawfully assigned duty of congress because, as James Madison, the Father of the US Constitution warned: “No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare”.

    Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts, floor debate over the 2nd Amendment, I Annals of Congress: “What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to PREVENT THE ESTABLISMENT OF A STANDING ARMY, the bane of liberty….”

    Now you know one reason why our country was established that way.

    Clause 15: “To provide for calling forth the MILITIA to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.

    This clause is very straightforward. The militia of each state is taxed with the defense of the USA and her people, not just with the defense of their state; and they are to be armed with weapons that can repel any invasions bearing modern weapons of war. Congress is required to provide those military grade weapons for the militias in Clause 16, NOT to governmental professional law enforcements agencies, college/school security, foreign terrorists, or not to foreign nations and/or entities.

    Clause 16: “To provide for organizing, ARMING, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the
    Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”.

    Thomas Jefferson, 1st inaugural, explained that: “a well-disciplined militia” is “our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of war, till regulars may relieve them” and also a guarantee of “the supremacy of the civil over the military authority; [and] economy in the public expense.”

    When the founders created the US Constitution they realized that we would never be able to count on state and federal representatives or agencies to protect our lives, property, and freedom, or to follow the US Constitution, state Constitution’s and keeping their Oath’s as required. They decided to continue with what the people here had already been using, and the
    one proven throughout history to have the best needs of the people themselves always put first, the Militia of the several states. Who are the Militia? All able-bodied citizens or those legally allowed to be here between the ages of 18 – 60.

    Richard Henry Lee: “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …”

    George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment: “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

    Joel Barlow whose political writings were debated on the floor of Parliament said of the US Constitution: “… not only permitting every man to arm, BUT OBLIGING HIM TO ARM.”

    Thomas J. Jackson: “The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth.”

    Thomas Jefferson:“Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.”

    James Madison: “An efficient militia is authorized and contemplated by the Constitution and required by the spirit and safety of free government.”

    Samuel Adams: “It is always dangerous to the liberties of the people to have an army stationed among them, over which they have no control … The Militia is composed of free Citizens. There is therefore no danger of their making use of their Power to the destruction of their own Rights, or suffering others to invade them..”

    Patrick Henry: “If you have given up your militia, and Congress shall refuse to arm them, you have lost every thing. Your existence will be precarious, because you depend on others, whose interests are not affected by your infelicity.”

    Tench Coxe: “Who are the militia? are they not ourselves. Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, AND EVERY OTHER TERRIBLE IMPLEMENT OF THE SOLDIER, ARE THE BIRTH-RIGHT OF AN AMERICAN… The unlimited power of THE SWORD IS NOT IN THE HANDS OF EITHER THE FEDERAL OR STATE GOVERNMENTS BUT, where I trust in God it will ever remain, IN THE HANDS OF THE PEOPLE.”

    Bet you didn’t know that besides not being ALLOWED to have a “standing military” (remember all US Presidents are Commander in Chief ONLY when the Militia and/or military is actually called into service of the United States, not all the time, not even most of the time because we are ONLY allowed to use Military to DEFEND our nation from attack.

    Article 2. Section. 2: “The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States;”

    James Madison: “… large and permanent military establishments … are forbidden by the principles of free government, and against the necessity of which the militia were meant to be a constitutional bulwark.”

    So what did the courts say about the Militia and the USA having an armed populace? (I used caps for emphasis in many places)

    Nunn vs. State: ‘The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.’ The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the milita, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State.
    Our opinion is that any law, State or Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which contravenes this right”.

    Bliss v. Commonwealth: “Arms restrictions – even concealed weapons bans – are unconstitutional, since arms bearing is an individual right and the legislature may not restrict any aspect of such a right.”

    Cockrum v. State: “The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the high powers delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government. A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power”.

    Black’s Law Dictionary, 3rd Edition: ‘The body of citizens in a state, enrolled for discipline as a military force, but not engaged in
    actual service except in emergencies, as distinguished from regular troops or a standing army.’

    So you see, there is a way to get the traitors and domestic enemies out of our government; arrested, held for prosecution for treason and *terrorism, plus many other civil and criminal acts committed by many of them.

    *28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

    Did you realize that a lot of what is done today by those who serve within our government is NOT allowed for them to do? That much is based on outright lies, misconstructions?

    James Madison in a letter written to a Virginia senator, Joseph Cabell: “I always foresaw difficulties might be started in relation to the interstate commerce power. Being in the same terms with the power over foreign commerce, the same extent, if taken literally, would belong to it. Yet it is very certain it grew out of the abuse of the power of the importing states in taxing the non-importing, and was intended as a negative and preventative provision against injustice amongst the states themselves, rather than as a power to be used for the positive purposes of the General Government, in which alone, however, the remedial power could be lodged. And it will be safer to leave the power with this key to it, than to extend it all the qualities and incidental means belonging to the power over foreign commerce.”

    Some examples: Judges only hold their office as long as they use “Good Behaviour” within the courts – not for life, and the people are the “deciders” of those behaviors.

    Judges are NOT given the authority to “interpret” the US Constitution, but to see that everything is “In Pursuance thereof” it.

    Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, possibly the most eminent defender of the Tenth Amendment to sit on the modern Supreme Court, put it this way:
    “The Constitution does not protect the sovereignty of States for the benefit of the States or state governments as abstract political entities, or even for the benefit of the public officials governing the States. To the contrary, the Constitution divides authority between federal and state governments for the protection of individuals. State sovereignty is not just an end in itself: “Rather, federalism secures to citizens the liberties that derive from the diffusion of sovereign power.”

    Alexander Hamilton: “The only constitutional exception to the power of making treaties is, that it shall not change the Constitution… On natural principles, a treaty, which should manifestly betray or sacrifice primary interests of the state, would be null.”

    Alexander Hamilton, concerning the supremacy clause. Fed 33: “It will not, I presume, have escaped observation that it expressly confines the supremacy to laws made pursuant to the Constitution.”

    Alexander Hamilton: “There is no position which depends on clearer principles that that every act of a delegated authority, contrary to the commission under which it is exercised, is void. No legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.”

    John Jay: “Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

    Alexander Hamilton: “Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?”

    John Jay, first Chief Justice of the United States: “No power on earth has a right to take our property from us without our consent.”

    James Madison, Federalist Number 57, wrote that Congress “can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society.”

    • Jim Johnson

      I can see where the federal gov’t can and will expect our Sheriff to obey whatever they demand, and it is you and I, standing behind that Sheriff, that will impose his office against all intrigues and infringements he deems unacceptable. The only question I have is where are the ‘Regulars’ Jefferson spoke of? Are not our National Guardsmen a branch of the Feds now?

      • Kansas Bright

        The National Guard was never the Militia, they were always a governmental agency; state first, then federal.

        Basically Dr. Vieira says it best.

        As Dr. Edwin Vieira states in his book “Constitutional “Homeland Security” Volume 1: the Nation in Arms”: “That means “that NONE of those tasks are assigned to the Army, to a Navy, to a (constitutionally unknown) National Guard, or least of all to any unnamed professional police, security, or intelligence agencies of the General Government or of any state or locality. Rather, the Constitution’s explicit emphasis on the Militia as the preeminent forces by politicians of a garrison, “national-security”, or police state…

        So those bound by Oath who “knowingly, with willful blindness, or in reckless disregard of the consequences of his/her action” votes for an unconstitutional act, bill, etc; when a “President or state governor refuses to veto it and instead executes it; or when a Judge, either of the supreme and inferior courts of the general
        government, or of any state knowingly declares such a statute valid and enforceable – each and every one of them violates his oath of office….

        A remedy MUST exist for every individual harmed by each and every violation.That remedy MUST impose some personal liability on the violator – it being his own Oath or Affirmation he himself forswore. And that personal liability cannot be evaded by his or his cronies’ assertion of some ersatz official immunity”. (End quote by Dr Edwin Vieira)

        Here in America we do not owe our allegiance to any person who serves within our government. We owe our Allegiance to the US Constitution, and the Oaths required of all who participate within our governments makes it their personal responsibility to do support and defend it, not any person serving.

        Many people blindly accept “emergency powers”, “martial law” as being a lawful thing within this nation. They never think that since they are the very opposite of our US Constitution that they cannot be lawful, and any research will show that to be true.

        The Supreme Court of the United States, 1866 (yes it is still valid): “The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism.”

        James Madison: “Because if . . . [An Unalienable Natural Right of Free Men] . . . be exempt from the authority of the Society at large, still less can it be subject to that of the Legislative Body. The latter are but the creatures and vicegerents of the former. Their jurisdiction is both derivative and limited: It is limited with regard to the coordinate departments, more necessarily is it limited with regard to the constituents. The preservation of a free Government requires, not merely, that the metes and bounds which separate each department of power be invariably maintained: but more especially that neither of them be suffered to overleap the greater Barrier which defends the rights of the people. The Rulers who are guilty of such an encroachment, exceed the commission from which they derive their authority, and are Tyrants. The people who submit to it are governed by laws made neither by themselves nor by an authority derived from them, and are Slaves”

        • Jim Johnson

          I refer again to this:
          >>Thomas Jefferson, 1st inaugural, explained that: “a well-disciplined
          militia” is “our best reliance in peace and for the first moments of
          war, till regulars may relieve them”<<
          Emphasis on "Regulars" and "peace". It can not be Militia as you describe. Protecting the boundaries of our country is no small matter, and is why we have a military. I can see where a militia, as I describe, will let our citizen soldiers know when politicians have crossed the line and meet this reality behind a determined Sheriff, but repelling foreign invaders is not for part-time amatuers taking time off from making shoes. We have not arrived in this mess on the collected decisions of monsters alone. Many of our mistakes are a result of honest attempts to solve very real trouble. Indeed, military genius will run right through us if they know exactly what we will do in a situation. What we must now determine is where we bent the rules to simply survive and go back and correct those mistakes, rather than try to incorporate them into an over-all "interpretation" of the plain reading intent we started out with. Certainly, all Americans being armed is a huge deterrent to any invader, but it would be a fatal mistake to rely on that assumption. The Founders had no idea how dangerous the machines of War would become.

          • Kansas Bright

            I am sorry, my mistake, I read your question incorrectly. The Militia is to hold off and defend until the “regulars”, the Military – many who will come from the militia – is called together. All Militia must be trained and the STATES are in charge of that training, but to be done as the congress (federal) requires of the military so that when called to be a “regular” they are already trained.

            Thomas Cooley, in “Principles of Constitutional Law” had more to say upon the subject: “… The militia, as has been elsewhere explained, consists of those persons who, under the law, are liable to the performance of military duty, and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon. But the law may make provision for the enrolment of all who are fit to perform military duty, or of a small number only, or it may wholly omit to make any provision at all; and if the right were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of this guaranty might be defeated altogether by the action or neglect to act of the government it was meant to hold in check. The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people, from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear arms, and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose. But this enables the government to have a well regulated militia; for to bear arms implies something more than the mere keeping; it implies the learning to handle and use them in a way that makes those who keep them ready for their efficient use; in other words, it implies the right to meet for voluntary discipline in arms, observing in doing so the laws of public order.
            – Standing Army: A further purpose of this amendment is, to preclude any necessity or reasonable excuse for keeping up a standing army. A standing army is condemned by the traditions and sentiments of the people, as being as dangerous to the liberties of the people as the general
            preparation of the people for the defence of their institutions with arms is preservative of them.
            – What Arms may be kept: The arms intended by the Constitution are such as are suitable for the general defence of the community against invasion or oppression, and the secret carrying of those
            suited merely to deadly individual encounters may be prohibited.”

            Thomas Jefferson, “Notes on the State of Virginia” (1782): “”The law requires every militia-man to provide himself with arms usual in the regular service. But this injunction was always indifferently
            complied with, and the arms they had have been so frequently called to arm the regulars, that in the lower parts of the country they are entirely disarmed.”

            From various debates in the Convention, and history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators concur enough that the Militia comprised “A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.” (Males who could be in the military) But they (Militia) had to be TRAINED by the states regularly, which is a condition I agree wholeheartedly with.

            Thomas J. Jackson: “The patriot volunteer, fighting for country and his rights, makes the most reliable soldier on earth.”

            Thomas Jefferson: “Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.”

            Soldiers always require training, as does the Militia when in use then, and now.

            James Madison: “An efficient militia is authorized and contemplated by the Constitution and required by the spirit and safety of free government.”

            Black’s Law Dictionary, 3rd Edition: The body of citizens in a state, enrolled for discipline as a military force, but not engaged in actual service except in emergencies, as distinguished from regular troops or a standing army.

            I hope this answers your question better. If not, write here again and I will research the subject deeper as this is where my research and studies touch lightly.

  • davidnrobyn

    Great interview, Ron and DB.
    Two thoughts: One: The US will never go to war with Russia. Bullies know very well who to take on and who to leave well alone.
    Two: If any states had the temerity to conduct a referendum on secession like Scotland, the Washington pols won’t be begging, they’ll be threatening. We’ve got a precedent for that scenario, and the outcome, as Ron mentioned, was 600,000 dead. Do you really think they’ll hesitate the second time?