STAFF NEWS & ANALYSIS
Bush Killings Seen Worse Than Stalin’s, According to Millennials
By Daily Bell Staff - October 17, 2016

Millennials believe George W Bush killed more people than Stalin, finds survey … One third of younger generation respondents believe that more people were killed under the Republican’s tenure than the former Soviet Union dictator … According to a new survey, one third of millennial, generation “X” and “Z” respondents believe that more people were killed while Bush was US president than under the dictatorship of former Soviet Union leader Joseph Stalin. -UK Independent

Mainstream media and its controllers have lost control of information in the 21st century and this survey is further evidence of it.

Millennials reportedly  believe George Bush was responsible for more killings than Stalin, according to results of a poll reported by the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation in its first “annual report on US attitudes towards socialism.”

More:

“It is because of such widespread ignorance about communism that we formed the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, which is dedicated to telling the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth,” Lee Edwards, co-founder of the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation, told the Daily Signal.

But the chances are that this group will not tell the whole truth about communism and its authoritarian genocides. This would surely reveal that Western banking interests helped create and install communism in Russia in the first place.

This is amply documented in G. Edward Griffin’s book, “The Creature From Jekyll Island.” The book deals with the secret history of central banking and the intention of its elite founders to use monetary monopolies to centralize world governance.

But the book also exposes Hegelian strategies calling for the creation of enemies in order to advance the cause of internationalization. The great enemy of the West during the 20th century – and now again in the 21st – was communism.

In order to make sure that communism took root in Russia, Wall Street tycoons costumed themselves as Red Cross workers and traveled to Russia to make sure that “Red Russian” factions were adequately funded.

Additionally, there is a good deal of revisionist history regarding Karl Marx on the Internet, some of it suggesting that his history is more complex than is ordinarily portrayed.

Only 5 per cent of millennials were unfamiliar with the former US president – his decision to invade Iraq took place within recent memory – while 18 per cent were unfamiliar with Stalin.

While millennials may have a hazy view of Stalin, the murderous reality of what’s going in the Middle East is obviously clear enough to the younger generation. And let’s not restrict the wholesale slaughter just to Bush.

When one adds up casualties in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Egypt and other countries that have suffered from recent US sponsored violence, the death toll rises precipitously. It should include the continuing cancers and birth defects caused by depleted uranium weapons as well.

London’s City bankers were apparently behind the rise of communism both Russia and later in China, just as Western money power boosted World War II.

The sudden emergence of this new Foundation may educate younger people about the dangers of communism, but we wonder if it will fully explain the genesis of that murderous political system and Western involvement.

We are entering an era where the West is positioning itself once more as a bulwark of freedom against Russia, and China as well. It would be nice to think that this Foundation will offer a more expansive view of communism and its causes, but it is also likely that it is simply part of the ongoing effort to resuscitate tensions between Russia and the West.

The idea here, we are told, is that young people have not been sufficiently exposed to communism and its murders – which would put the West (and Bush) in a better light. But we’d suggest that millennials have actually absorbed a good deal of information about murderous Western activities, and this is what’s provoking such beliefs.

Conclusion: Elite memes are simply not as effective today as yesterday, and that may not be the fault of a deficient education but of more comprehensive Internet reporting. …

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  • John G

    More proof of a failed educational system!

    • acmaurer

      or a successful one.

      • worldwidewilli

        Yes, I´m afraid they´ve pulled it off.

        • John

          Exactly – The Neocon Warmongers & Their NAZI Secret Societies Got Their PNAC New Pearl Harbor Coup On 911 – No Rules or Laws For Those At The Top Since – Patriot Acts, NDAA, Etc, Etc – For The Rest Of Us.

      • Earn nest

        Exactly. I admit I’m impressed with their successes.

    • mikeginn

      failed educational system!
      failed media that sensationalizes with false headlines and no links contributes to this failure.

    • mary

      Maybe, but the Bush Crime Family is different only in degree.

      At what point do we lift the reservation of our condemnation? How many people must a POTUS or Secretary of State condemn to death before he joins the club of history’s greatest monsters? 1,000,001? 1,000,002, perhaps?

      One murder is sufficient to condemn a lowly pleb. Why are the “rules” different for POTUS just because half the country stupidly voted for the lesser of two evils?

      Clearly, our public debate is morally torpid.

      • James Clander

        Spot on – The article above is based on a “stupid” comparison.

        Brutal American Foreign Policy has killed & wounded many millions over the past 60 years – – but most would like to sweep that fact under the carpet. Bush11 was a stupid cowardly dimwit who was elected twice — current ass wipe obviously no better -except he won the Nobel Prize !! WTF ?

        • Hey you

          If hog callers were in charge of giving nobel prizes, there would be more hog callers getting nobel prizes.

  • stevor

    is this supposed to be an article?

  • Barney Biggs

    These kids were not around when Stalin was doing his thing. The untold millions he murdered both before WW11 during and after were on a level these kids cannot fathom. Short of dropping nucs, Bush despite being wrong, never came close to these figures.

  • John Achenbach

    Are ‘millennial, generation “X” and “Z” respondents’ capable of critical thought? Seems as though they are spending too much time in ‘safe spaces.’

  • worldwidewilli

    How can this even be? :O

  • Comparing while Bush with under Stalin???
    Beliefs expressed to surveys may reflect something of their education and the education system, the mental capacity of people and the framing of the surveys – but the purveying of PR distortions often operates through such ‘factoids’ dropped into the ‘news stream’.
    Is Bush Jr as aware of what actually went on under his ‘watch’ as Stalin consciously instigated? I think there is not much comparison.
    However there may be a case for comparing The US Empire’s destructive effect with that of the Soviet system – except that much of what goes down as a result of corporate-gov power is masked, hidden or via proxies.
    We are lied to in a world that runs on lies and with the Net have access to voices that otherwise had little reach as well as disinfo by design as well as from lack of discipline or integrity in the sharing of information. AND a top-down policy of reducing the capacity of anyone to know what in fact is going on or who in fact is behind it – if it is real or staged.
    I see different versions of ignorance and arrogance generating misery and destruction – as it has and does through the generations and over the ages.

  • aln

    I bet if there was a follow-up question asking who Stalin was and when he held power half of them couldn’t tell you….

  • Isefree

    DB,

    Can you supply a link to the survey?

    • Samarami

      Here’s the link to the article:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/communism-george-w-bush-joseph-stalin-survey-millennials-younger-generation-death-killed-a7366131.html

      Which links to this:

      http://victimsofcommunism.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/VOC-Attitudes-toward-Socialism-Topline-Data.pdf

      as “Independent” author’s documentation for his or her article.

      I, too, have often wondered why the folks at DB don’t generally provide links for the articles upon which their very intuitive articles are based. I tend to try to do that whenever I make reference to somebody else’s work, for two reasons:

      1) Credit where credit is due

      2) Whatever can be misunderstood will be misunderstood; and I want you (the reader) to know I’m merely quoting what you’ve said, not what I “believe” or subscribe to.

      Sam

      • Isefree

        Did you read the survey? It contradicts the quote from the Independent. 26% of respondents to question 13 thought it was true that Bush killed more people than Stalin. 74% thought that was false.

        • Samarami

          I have to plead ignorance as to reading the link that the author of the Independent article used for “documentation”. Because I don’t feel I have energy or time to actually question Independent’s article itself. I have no doubt it was “placed” (in order for folks like you and me to become… “shocked! …Shocked!!!”).

          As I said in my original post, when one continues to focus on the wrong questions she’ll continue to get wrong answers. And when it comes to anything having to do with central political “authority” (elections, wars, various and sundry “national” crises) — and any mainstream press accounts thereof — I presume obfuscation and disillusionment.

          I don’t need to ask questions to know that. And the less time I spend asking wrong questions, the more time I’ll have to prepare myself and my family for the devastating results of government action that will occur in due time.

          As DB pointed out in the article, these young folks aren’t stupid. Or unaware. Some are. But more and more aren’t. The internet reformation is giving rise to an increasing segment of “millennials” who are awakening to smell the coffee. Sam

          • Praetor

            As always Sam, people do have various views of history and a good amount of those view are looked through the porthole of bias. Sorry to say!!!

  • TCG102734

    as long as people believe violence will solve our problems these things will continue;
    Fred Branfman, who exposed the “secret” destruction of tiny Laos by the US Air Force in the 1960s and 70s, provides an answer to those who still wonder how a liberal African-American president, a professor of constitutional law, can command such lawlessness. “Under Mr. Obama,” he wrote, “no president has done more to create the infrastructure for a possible future police state.” Why? Because Obama, like George W Bush, understands that his role is not to indulge those who voted for him but to expand “the most powerful institution in the history of the world, one that has killed, wounded or made homeless well over 20 million human beings, mostly civilians, since 1962.”

    http://original.antiwar.com/pilger/2013/06/19/understanding-the-latest-leaks-is-understanding-the-rise-of-a-new-fascism/

  • TCG102734
    • Mstrjack

      Indeed. The very first instruction for my grandson’s kindergarten class this year was reverence for the state at Mount Rushmore. Schooling is not Education.

      • Hey you

        Schooling is indoctrination, both positive and negative.

  • Samarami

    “The sudden emergence of this new Foundation”, along with the Independent article itself, are classic examples of the quotation attributed to Thomas Pynchon:

    “If they can keep you asking
    the wrong questions,
    they don’t have to worry about
    answers.”

    DB does an excellent job sniffing out the underlying reason for Independent’s article. And TCG102734’s comment augments the mystery.

    Nobody need wonder whether “Bush or Stalin” pro-generated the most deaths. All one need understand is the fact that war is the health of the state.

    If everybody understood that, it might save a couple billion or trillion column inches of text wigging and wagging over the details.

    It might also encourage a billion or two folks to abstain from beans.

    Sam

  • apberusdisvet

    The average US millennial is a poster child for cognitive dissonance largely, I believe, as a result of public school indoctrination in cultural marxism. They are largely followers, few leaders and the snowflake mentality that they acquire in college will not serve them well in the real world. That said, I feel sorry for them, and also for the America that I once knew.

  • Isefree

    The VOC survey question #13: “True or false: More people were killed under George W. Bush’s presidency than Joseph Stalin’s leadership.
    True: 26%
    False:74%”

    This contradicts the quote from the Independent at the beginning of this article. And no mention is made of “millennials” in the VOC survey, just that the age of the respondents was 16+

  • gernot_hassenpflug

    Sounds like a no-brainer for this “new” foundation to spin things such that Russia is once again placed as an emergent communist regime likened to the former USSR, and thus the enemy.

  • william readling

    Maybe millenials are including all the people that died, or died early because drugs that would have cured their disease, or delayed their deaths were not available because of the Food, and Drug Administration, and the “war on drugs”. Although it would be impossible to determine the exact number, it would certainly run into the tens if not hundreds of millions.
    My mother, and father died of metastatic cancers, there is likely a compound in cannabis, perhaps tetrahydrocannabinolic acid, that would have acted as a prophylaxis for their cancers, yet not intoxicated them. Without the FDA this compound might be available. If it was, it would be in my bloodstream right now.

  • william readling

    For me, W’s killings were worse than Stalin’s since he murdered those people in my name as a citizen of the US, with my stolen under threat of force tax dollars, and over my protestations against unconstitutional, undeclared, wars of agression. Stalin’s murders involved me only in that they were crimes against humanity, as every war is, since in every war, one party is the agressor

  • Hippity

    The Daily Bells headliner is as corrupt as Hillary Clinton’s campaign>

  • TimeToWakeUPAmerica

    Millennials need to educate themselves. Lev Bronstein (a.k.a. Leon Trotsky) & Lenin were guilty of SERIOUS crimes (not just Stalin). Stalin, like Hitler is portrayed as EVIL and FASCIST only by the Western MSM (Mainstream Media), who completely ignore Lev Bronstein, and all the other “Jews” responsible for the GENOCIDE of mainly WHITE, ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN PEASANT RUSSIANS (66 MILLION to be exact, according to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, in his book GULAG ARCHIPELAGO), therefore, the crimes of G.W. Bush pale in comparison. For MUCH MORE on this topic, go here:

    Who and what actually comprises the CFR/CIA “Shadow Government” embedded within and controlling the U.K., U.S., Saudi, Israeli, “E.U.” governments, as well as most, if not all of the so-called British Commonwealth governments? FIND OUT, HERE:

    THE FINAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA: JFK’S 1961 Prophecy EXPOSES Obama, Hillary, the Pope & the NWO/JWO http://sgtreport.com/2016/10/the-final-destruction-of-america-jfks-1961-prophecy-exposes-obama-hillary-pope-the-nwo/

    Read all the comments. Click on all the links. Read/view/listen to all content.

    • Mark Eting

      Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party was made up as follows:

      NAME NATIONALITY
      Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
      Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
      Lourie (Larine) Jew
      Ouritski Jew
      Volodarski Jew
      Rosenfeldt (Kamanef) Jew
      Smidovitch Jew
      Sverdlof (Yankel) Jew
      Nakhamkes (Steklof) Jew
      Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
      Krylenko Russian
      Lounatcharski Russian

      From Let My People Go, Empirical Publications, Northern Ireland c. 1976.

    • Mark Eting

      “The Council of the People’s Commissars comprises the following:

      MINISTRY NAME NATIONALITY
      President Ulyanov (Lenin) Russian
      Foreign Affairs Tchitcherine Russian
      Nationalities Djugashvili (Stalin) Georgian
      Agriculture Protian Armenian
      Economic Council Lourie (Larine) Jew
      Food Schlichter Jew
      Army & Navy Bronstein (Trotsky) Jew
      State Control Lander Jew
      State Lands Kauffman Jew
      Works V. Schmidt Jew
      Social Relief E. Lelina (Knigissen) Jewess
      Public Instruction Lounatcharsky Russian
      Religions Spitzberg Jew
      Interior Apfelbaum (Zinovief) Jew
      Hygiene Anvelt Jew
      Finance Isidore Goukovski Jew
      Press Volodarski Jew
      Elections Ouritski Jew
      Justice I. Steinberg Jew
      Refugees Fenigstein Jew
      Refugees (assist.) Savitch Jew
      Refugees (assist.) Zaslovski Jew

      From Let My People Go, Empirical Publications, Northern Ireland c. 1976.

  • Bastiat

    George W. Bush was certainly no pacifist, but Josef Stalin was definitely worse. Having said that, many Americans still defend Bush’s actions which is despicable.

  • Jill Clementine

    The left sure did a number on poor ole George. George let the gun ban lapse that Clinton put in place, stop funding for UN’s international abortion mill, promised a tax break which he did to left hatred, and also a no nation building foreign policy.
    Clinton bombed Bosnia for the Muslims over some “ethnic cleansing”. Congress decided to go into Afghanistan even though we were in a semi war with Iraq and had been bombing them for ten years and had a no fly zone and a UN instituted oil for food scandal uh program.
    So on 911 less than a year into Georges presidency a terror strike happens…do you overthrow the Taliban in Afghanistan or think maybe Iraq considering we’re already in a quasi war with them and Congress had passed a resolution to “liberate” Iraq in 1998? So we’re overthrowing countless countries in the Middle East but weren’t going to in Iraq, a country Congress voted to “liberate” in 1998.
    The left started that whole 911 propaganda against the republicans, just like their whole anti-war movement was just anti Bush and went away too when he did.
    Just Congress knew about the “torture” and Kirikou worked for the dems as an aide before he went public with the truth of what the republicans did right around election time.
    And it’t a nice picture of chelsea and the sex change in prison except the background is a pretty scenic picture and it looks to be taken in a car.

  • NJguy – Proudly Deplorable

    As these millennials march into the camps, even then they won’t understand.

    Useful idiots.

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