STAFF NEWS & ANALYSIS
Domestic Abuse: A Smart Device Called the Police
By The Daily Bell Staff - July 11, 2017

This article is not about fear. This article is about common sense.

Last week, we discussed the internet of things, and how smart devices could be used to literally know more about us than we know about ourselves.

This is not some distant future dystopia we are talking about. It is already happening.

A smart device in a home called the police during a domestic violence incident.

It appears to have been a reaction by the device to the abuser yelling at his girlfriend, “Did you call the sheriffs?” The device heard “Call the sheriffs,” and did so.

A SWAT team arrived at the home and after negotiating for hours, they were able to take Barros into custody. Police tell ABC News that the man’s girlfriend was injured but did not need to visit a hospital. The couple’s daughter was safe and unharmed.

“The unexpected use of this new technology to contact emergency services has possibly helped save a life,” Bernalillo County Sheriff Manuel Gonzales III said in a statement.

It’s hard to look at this as big brother ruining lives; after all, the guy was abusing his girlfriend in front of their daughter. Constant spying has entered the mainstream media as a good thing. Look at all the benefits of having nowhere to hide; the scum of the earth who abuse their girlfriends will be caught and locked up.

But there are a lot of crimes out there, and not all of them harm others. In fact, chances are we all break multiple laws on a daily basis. So if the government knows about every law you break, they could certainly choose to overlook them. If they also know however that you legally reduced your taxes to almost nothing, or that you have a legal foreign bank account, well then maybe they have some incentive to snag you.

Al Capone was never arrested for murder, racketeering, or selling alcohol. He was arrested for tax evasion. If they want you, they can find a way to get you. They have been doing it since Capone’s time.

What if it had been another illicit activity that was recorded by the smart device? What if it had been a victimless crime? Would the police have come if they heard people talking about growing 25 marijuana plants in the basement?

The media will point to the “success stories” of locking up the bad guys with this technology. They will not highlight the people who are nabbed for code violations, renting out a room illegally, or hate speech.

In some ways, this problem has an easy solution; simply do not use devices that will spy on you.

But in another sense, that is not so simple. Even most cell phones these days are constantly recording your conversations. Is the only solution becoming hermits?

Are we willing and able as consumers to demand that type of privacy? Comment with your thoughts on how you have dealt with this problem in your own life.

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  • Milton

    Are most cell phones really constantly recording our conversations??

    • Don Duncan

      They can be remotely turned into a transmitter. But they keep track of your location automatically.

      • Praetor

        They keep track of where the cell phone is, not necessarily where you are.!!!

        • Useless Eater

          Heh, I leave my cell phone at home and call it from a pay phone to check the messages. 🙂

    • joe_bob_gonzales

      google can track you locations. maps out where you have been for some periods of time…… check your phone. timeline on google maps.

      remember —- its a feature, not a bug.

  • joe_bob_gonzales

    if even half of the story is true, a person would have to be an IDIOT to have one of these devices in their house.

    Orwells big brother would be creaming in his jeans to have had even a bit of this technology.

    even your cell phone is a tracking device and much of your info is already in storage in Utah.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/14/nsa-utah-data-facility

    so, act accordingly.

    • Yes, the search-ability of the data is certainly an issue. Even if no human ever looks at most our data, it is there if we make a wrong move and someone wants to start digging.

      • Don Duncan

        “Wrong move” is a subjective judgement by TPTB. If they want to destroy someone, they can always find an excuse. No one is safe.

        • Ephraiyim

          “Always find an excuse”.
          If not they can always manufacture one or as with the FBI, create one by trying to entrap one into doing something they call illegal.

      • joe_bob_gonzales

        exactly. their computers capture everything and as you say, there when needed to build a case.

  • Don Duncan

    Whatever danger tech creates can be countered. Tech has no problems that can’t be fixed. Since the private sector is usually ahead of the public, tech probably allows more protection than not. However, I was surprised when I saw a computer genus who was not aware of the danger to privacy in the movie “Snowden”. I thought: “If he didn’t know, what else is govt. doing that we don’t know about?” Then I thought: “Maybe this was just a cinematic way of communication. Probably the latter.”

    A side note: I didn’t buy that Snowden’s girlfriend was ignorant of his plans. I think she helped him all the way, psychologically and strategically. I really hope so. It gives me a warm feeling to think his suffering is less by having a “soul mate”, a like mind.

    • Agreed, better to have that sort of support when you are fighting government abuse. Like if 1984 had a happy ending.

      • Don Duncan

        In Snowden’s case, so far, so good. They haven’t murdered him yet, probably because he has friends in high places, the damage is done, and he would be a martyr.
        Moreover, the use of political power cannot be anything but destructive, in the long run. Therefore, it will destroy the people that have faith in it (the vast majority) or they will begin to wake up, one by one, and someday we will have enough to stop this madness.

  • Centurian

    As I was taught by the Secret Service while doing details with them a while back, you cannot guarantee safety and privacy. You can discourage and maybe intervene and punish people who mean to or do bad things. A cyber security friend tells me that “there is no such thing as privacy.” Both were right. I did a job for The Department of Justice a little while back. Never gave them banking details or anything. Sent an invoice and 4 days latter the money was in my account. Scary, but what the heck it isn’t their money, its yours. BTW in two projects we recovered $15.5 M in real Medicare fraud. I only got a measly hourly rate.

    • Renov8

      You need to renegotiate your terms…ask for a % of recovered funds…that should take care of it.

      • Centurian

        Can’t do due to regulation. Have to be an attorney or CPA to do that

        • Col. Edward H. R. Green

          In other words, you must work in a government-created and enforced monopoly by having government permission in the form of an occupational license in order to collect a “commission”.

          It’s the same with real estate. I do not refer anyone to RE brokers or salespeople because they can be fined and imprisoned for paying me, an “outsider”, a referral fee.

    • Thank you, always good to get the inside scoop!

  • john cummins

    I think overall the Internet Reformation is a great thing and undermines the iron grip of the gatekeepers. Hopefully, the sheer volume of information will thwart the spies, who knows. Any and everything we can do to jam the system is a plus, plus, plus. Remember, the results of the Gutenberg Press overall were to bring more freedom to the world, how much moreso the Internet? Maybe, just maybe, ultimately it will bring down the militarized police AND the interventionalist militaries of the world tyrants.

    • Boysie

      Why don’t you say the American Police – Which other country do you have in mind ?

    • Agreed, the internet has certainly done more good than harm. And it has helped hold the police liable for their actions. Scary to think how long and how intense their abuse of the citizens has been before cell phone videos and such.

  • Praetor

    Who here remembers when letters were written and phones had a dial. The old way is the best way, when it comes to the cell phone. Pull the battery when not in use, of course if you are one of the cell phone addict, you are screwed.

    If they can record you in your home, and I believe they can, they are defiantly disregarding the Constitution. The cell phone I bought is my property and is in my home. A new revolution is in the work, without a doubt. Sounds like the technological Red Coats.!!!

    • That is certainly true, that if they abided by the Constitution they would not listen through our devices, as the Fourth Amendment would prohibit it. But of course, they ignore it.

      • Praetor

        Sounds like every citizen in the USA if not the world has a general warrant against them. ‘Writ of Assistance,’ that never expires.!!!

  • Laura Amanda Allen

    I wouldn’t have an Alexa or an Echo or whatever those other ones are in my house if they were free or I got paid to take one! I was thinking of getting a 21st century cell phone; now, I’m not so sure. We just had a nasty incident in the Twin Cities where a teenager accidentally set off the family’s house alarm – and it called the cops – and one of them jumped over the fence into the yard – and shot both of the family’s dogs. The family’s outdoor surveillance video shows the dog wagging its tail in greeting when it saw the cop!

    I have two black cats. The little girl is very well-behaved. The guy cat is, shall we say, naughty. Breaks pottery, tore down a 6-foot valance. I do not want the cops to show up and start shooting because some electronic device reported me yelling, “Julio, get your big black butt out of there!”

    • And you hit on the other problem there, is that you cannot trust the police to help, at all, even if they were needed.

      • James Clander

        Posted Uncontroversial comments 5-6 hrs ago .
        For some reason still listed as ” Pending”
        Could someone please look at this & publish – OR advise what’s the problem ?

      • JMiller

        You mean that you cannot ALWAYS trust the police to help. I trust the police officers that I know but I do not trust all of them.

        • Col. Edward H. R. Green

          “I trust the police officers that I know…”

          Really ?

          You unconditionally and absolutely trust those government employees with securing and defending your person and your property, and those of your loved ones ?

          You have more confidence in their willingness and ability to protect you and yours than you have in yourself to do so ?

          Is it because you have known them for many years, long before they became police officers, so you are absolutely certain that you still know them very well ever since they became cops ?

          I hope that you are never in a situation where you are shocked to discover where there friendship and loyalty really lie.

          • JMiller

            All police officer are not the same. All young black men are not the same. All women are not the same. Understand?

          • Col. Edward H. R. Green

            “All police officer are not the same. All young black men are not the same. All women are not the same. Understand?”

            People are individuals. They are not all the same, which is what makes generalizations fallacious.

            There are good people with benevolent intent among government employees, but the context within which they chose to work to carry out their good deeds in defense of innocent and peaceful civilians is not one that is guided by a philosophy that encourages and rewards such acts–quite the contrary–which is why truly benevolent people who take other people’s legitimate individual rights seriously get wise, and leave it.

            Given that goverment’s police officers are not legally obliged to respond to a civilian’s call for their help–they are legally obliged to “protect and serve” the government, its employees and property, and the community that is its domain, but not individuals within it; given how militarized and consequently more explicitly aggressive and murderous government’s police have become towards peaceful civilians; given that government has a monopoly on the use of physical force, and its police are authorized to use that force, and that police work is especially very attractive to sociopaths and psychopaths because it enables them to bully and brutalize people with impunity under the cloak of “law enforcement”, it is healthy and wise for one to be alert, suspicious, and defensive when interacting with them, to presume guilt of malicious and harmful intent, rather than innocence, for they have chosen–freely chosen–to work within a context that promotes and enforces the statist idea of government as civilians’ owner and master, and NOT as their protector and defender of their legitimate individual rights.

            Understand ?

          • JMiller

            Next time please please your replies shorter and just agree with the truth that I stated. Understand?

          • AtlasAikido

            A# Per JMiller: “I trust no one, not even myself to always [being human to] make the right decision or [being human] to always act appropriately [for himself let alone others].”

            |

            B# “[Yet] The one I [JMiller always] trust unconditionally and absolutely is God”. 

            |
            A# and B# “Understand?” By his own words you shall know him…

            |

            “Understand” [JM’s UNmighty human fallibility is somehow transformed into might and infallability when he trusts his Authourity and is yet unable to accept a simple human “no” From Others without resorting to an APPEAL TO HIS BELIEF IN AUTHORITY]? To wit:

            |

            “Next time please please your replies shorter and just agree with the [so called self evident] TRUTH that I [J MILLER demonstrate, a confessed fallible human being, who does not always trust himself to make the right decision or to always act appropriately (A#) but for and thru an invoked Infallible Authourity (B#)] Understand?”

            |

            Dear Reader: A master/slave relationship

            Signature line for JMILLER that would cut to the chase and save us all time, energy and space:

            “Do everything I say–by JMILLER’S invoked Authourity–and we will get along just fine.”  “Yes, Master.”

          • paul

            Excuse me but you are misrepresenting what JMiller said. He did not say do everything he says. Just simply acknowledge the truth. The truth is all cops are not the same. Some do a very good job. Some do not.

          • AtlasAikido

            You certainly did miss the point. Cop out. Oh, wait! That is YOUR signature line too…

          • paul

            You obviously lack some intelligence. Your the typical biased person that I find on ALT media sights.

          • AtlasAikido

            Paul continues to re-introduce himself with: “Your [sic] the typical biased person…” and “You obviously lack some intelligence.” 

            After reading his other posts, I agree with him! That is an accurate assessment.

          • JMiller

            When I say trust I do not mean in every little thing. I trust no one, not even myself to always make the right decision or to always act appropriately. The only one I trust unconditionally and absolutely is God. Understand?

          • Col. Edward H. R. Green

            It is easy to trust a fictive construct because one can ascribe to it whatever protective powers one wishes, but it is not wise to do so. Understand ?

            People are individuals. They are not all the same, which is what makes generalizations fallacious.

            There are good people with benevolent intent among government employees, but the context within which they chose to work to carry out their good deeds in defense of innocent and peaceful civilians is not one that is guided by a philosophy that encourages and rewards such acts–quite the contrary–which is why truly benevolent people who take other people’s legitimate individual rights seriously get wise, and leave it.

            Given that the police are not legally obliged to respond to a civilian’s call for their help–they are legally obliged to “protect and serve” the government, its employees and property, and the community that is its domain, but not individuals within it; given how militarized and consequently more explicitly aggressive and murderous government’s police have become towards peaceful civilians; given that government has a monopoly on the use of physical force, and its police are authorized to use that force, and that police work is especially very attractive to sociopaths and psychopaths because it enables them to bully and brutalize people with impunity under the cloak of “law enforcement”, it is healthy and wise for one to be alert, suspicious, and defensive when interacting with them, to presume guilt of malicious and harmful intent, rather than innocence, for they have chosen–freely chosen–to work within a context that promotes and enforces the statist idea of government as civilians’ owner and master, and NOT as their protector and defender of their legitimate individual rights.

            Understand ?

          • JMiller

            Next time keep your replies shorter and just agree with the truth that I stated. Understand?

          • paul

            JMiller,

            I understand and agree.

        • paul

          I agree JMiller.

  • James Clander

    Posted Uncontroversial comments 5-6 hrs ago .
    For some reason still listed as ” Pending”

    Could someone please look at this & publish – OR advise what’s the problem ?

  • saruna2017

    There will be no way that you can prevent the Government from eavesdropping and monitoring by algorithm or robot. If you need a Government service of any kind you will be forced to communicate over the net and your bank account, or any other electronic currency, will be monitored. There will be no escape if you have any kind of internet (or any wired or satellite connection). If you want go bush they will get you via the first fine you incur or tolled road that you use. Amazon et al will ensure all purchases are tracked – even to the destination and transport and electrical devices will just not work without an internet connection. Most of this is already here or in progress. Micro satellites are also camera ready so it’s only a small step to high resolution and facial or body recognition or movement peculiarities, even in the dark.
    But you will be safe, won’t you?

  • Col. Edward H. R. Green

    Dear Moderator at the Daily Bell,

    I noticed that my description of my best friends encounter with local police and SWAT hasn’t been posted. If it is because I included my friend’s verbatim quoting of the abusive and crude manner with which they expressed themselves to him, you may delete the swear words.

    I wanted to edit the story because I had forgotten to mention that he had no firearms.

    • paul

      Like to here that. Hope it gets posted. I need a good laugh.

    • paul

      Well I guess I will not get a chance to here it. It probably contained some exaggerations any way.

  • Ephraiyim

    Deleted Alexa from my Kindle fire. I also keep the google search mic off.
    Type instead of talk. The more it hears you the smarter it gets. Don’t speak to the damn thing. Or be lazy and wait for “the man” to show up at your door someday.

  • SweetDoug




    In the future…

    Simply NOT having one of the devices will place you in the regard of THE AUTHORITIES, as being someone that should be viewed with suspicion.

    After all, if you’ve got nothing to hide…

    Mark. My. Words.

    Curse me now. Quote me later.

    Hope I’m wrong.

    •∆•
    V-V

  • JB Smith

    Please help the victims of the National Institute of Justice’s “intelligent surveillance” research. The NIJ is using our taxpayer dollars to violate our constitutional rights, recklessly endanger our lives, and torture us 24/7. Senator Kaine told me that this program funds Newport News Police Department and Virginia state police. Both are required to have a signed informed consent form for each human subject. The NIJ follows the common rule. Citizens need to request the name and contact number for the IRB as well as the grant administrator. We need to ask our senators to defund the NIJ for failure to follow the “common rule” and for violations of our constitutional rights as well as the torture and murder of thousands of innocent citizens. The perps are state and local police. The funding is the NIJ. In addition, cops steal the identity of the victim and use Medicaid to supplement their nonconsensual human subject research. This is a felony. They must allow us to opt out. The NIJ are required by law to pay for our attorney fees, medical expenses, and any change in financial position as well as punitive damages! I now have cancer throughout my body as a direct result of this technology. The NIJ, Newport News Police and Virginia state police are to blame for my cancer and stealing a decade of my life! Are there any attorneys with integrity in the U. S.?

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