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STAFF NEWS & ANALYSIS
Enter Fake News as Replacement for Conspiracy Theory?
By Daily Belll Staff - November 18, 2016

Barack Obama on fake news: ‘We have problems’ if we can’t tell the difference The US president denounced the spate of misinformation across social media platforms, including Facebook, suggesting American politics can be affected. -Guardian

Is fake news the new “conspiracy theory.” We’ve read that it may be, and it seems likely to us.

That’s because “conspiracy theory” has seemingly lost credibility as a way of dismissing anti-mainstream critiques, and it can be argued that “fake news” is being substituted.

We recently wrote about the decline and fall of “conspiracy theory” as an effective denigration of Deep State critiques. You can see the article here.

This make sense to us because the CIA was apparently responsible for disseminating the initial “conspiracy theory” meme, and “fake news” could certainly have been developed to take its place.

Secondly, as reportedly some 50 percent of Americans now believe in so-called “conspiracies,” it’s very obvious a elite replacement was needed.

Some caveats: Regarding this second point, it’s very likely that many more than 50 percent of Americans believe in conspiracy theories. And the substitution of “fake news” is a very unappealing alternative.

More:

President Barack Obama has spoken out about fake news on Facebook and other media platforms, suggesting that it helped undermine the US political process. 

“If we are not serious about facts and what’s true and what’s not, if we can’t discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems,” he said during a press conference in Germany. 

Since the surprise election of Donald Trump as president-elect, Facebook has battled accusations that it has failed to stem the flow of misinformation on its network and that its business model leads to users becoming divided into polarized political echo chambers. 

Our mission is to cover elite memes – propaganda that scares people into giving more control to the government – and having Obama comment on “fake news” is part of a standard meme reinforcement.

The “fake news” meme is all over search-engine news and prominent people like Obama are speaking out about the meme and basically endorsing it.

But it all strikes us as rather desperate.

Conspiracy Theory is far less prone to analysis than “fake news.” It has persisted so long and been so successful because it is difficult to quantify a “conspiracy” and thus the dismissal cannot be either confirmed or denied.

“Fake news” however, lends itself to fact-checking. One may not wish for a variety of reasons to delve into “conspiracy theory,” but if someone is told he or she is espousing fake news, the resultant irritation may move that person to further research.

When we coined the term Internet Reformation, our idea was that the information available via the ‘Net would generate a gradual process of enlightenment – and an accretion of truth. In fact, this process is occurring, in fits and starts.

If “conspiracy theory” really has lost impact – and apparently it has – as a way of debunking criticism of the Deep State, this is certainly a setback for modern propaganda.

Additionally, “when it comes to “fake news,” the mainstream media is going to have to speak with one voice in order to disparage factual information.

But fewer and fewer people believe the mainstream media. Thus, if the media places its communicative muscle behind tarring certain cogent criticisms as “false,” it will likely only speed up the decline of mainstream credibility.

Conclusion: Of course, those in power could ban the Internet outright, but it’s probably too late for that – and wouldn’t work effectively in any case.

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  • Bruce C.

    What’s ironic to me is that a main reason that so many people now believe in “conspiracy theories” is because they have persisted for so long that people have begun to think they must be true to have done so.

    And the ironic thing about “fake news” is that since Obama et al are admitting it’s out there then the logical conclusion is that the MSM must be generating it because the MSM speaks with one voice. Many truly independent sources would naturally say different things in different ways, so the mainstream media channels must conspire since they speak with one voice, thus being fake. Notice that Obama doesn’t say who is generating the “fake news,” only that it’s out there.

    • henrybowmanaz

      No, they believe in conspiracy theories because the alternative news media like WikiLeaks have been proving many of the rumored conspiracies. Conspiracies are false? Ask Bernie Sanders how false they are.

      • Bruce C.

        By “conspiracy theories” I mean the reality of conspiracies themselves in general, not any particular ones. As you probably know some people claim a conspiracy involving a lot of people cannot last for very long because its secrecy quickly breaks down. Such people therefore reject “conspiracy theories” out of hand no matter what they consist of.

        On the other hand, if you accept the possibility that large, long-lasting conspiracies are possible, then the questions become which ones might be true.

        • concerndcitizen

          The term “conspiracy theory” was created as a security agency psyop. Bill Casey (frmr CIA head) once said “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”

          From Quora: I am the source for this quote, which was indeed said by CIA Director William Casey at an early February 1981 meeting of the newly elected President Reagan with his new cabinet secretaries to report to him on what they had learned about their agencies in the first couple of weeks of the administration.
          The meeting was in the Roosevelt Room in the West Wing of the White House, not far from the Cabinet Room. I was present at the meeting as Assistant to the chief domestic policy adviser to the President. Casey first told Reagan that he had been astonished to discover that over 80 percent of the ‘intelligence’ that the analysis side of the CIA produced was based on open public sources like newspapers and magazines.
          As he did to all the other secretaries of their departments and agencies, Reagan asked what he saw as his goal as director for the CIA, to which
          he replied with this quote, which I recorded in my notes of the meeting
          as he said it. Shortly thereafter I told Senior White House correspondent Sarah McClendon, who was a close friend and colleague, who in turn made it public. Barbara Honegger bshonegg@gmail.com

          • erikSF99

            Lance deHaven-Smith has written a book “Conspiracy Theory in America” using as a starting point the CIA’s own memo on creating the ‘conspiracy theory’ meme around the Kennedy Assassination. He was surprised that they released the memo. You can read it here. http://www.jfklancer.com/CIA.html

        • henrybowmanaz

          Then there are “natural conspiracies,” where large numbers of people independently work towards the same ends because they gain the same benefits. These can be massive, and little to no coordination or secrecy is necessary. Think beehive.

  • Jim Johnson

    Now that my faith in Snopes is compromised, I wonder what will renew it? Too bad for all of us, as I do not miss the days of rampant viscous rumor. Welcome to the Big Boys and Girls Club, Kids. You best demand referencing rules adopted by Academia before taking anything to heart. And guess what? It has always been your duty to do so. Abide “mistakes” at the risk of your own reputation. Be demanding. Be picky. Do not suffer fools well.

    • concerndcitizen

      Make up your own mind from the facts, Snopes is another source that may or may not be suspect.

      • Jim Johnson

        Exactly. Snopes was an effective tool early on, as it quickly separated 90% of the crap people would fly off the handle reading. Pushing people’s buttons was once very prevalent, almost a Sport. My bet is Snopes started as a hobby and deformed when lots of income was generated. My hope is those older folks satisfied with their retirement income will take up researching as volunteers, thereby removing the influences of money on folks raising families.

  • Praetor

    This is ridiculous. What their saying is any ‘news’ that does not come from the traditional MSNews TV papers magazines is fake. What a joke. Lets see fake, ‘unemployment at 5%’ or ‘Clinton Foundation does good in Haiti’ and ‘Clinton has a 96% chance of winning the election’, you could go on and on with just the resent NEWS. These are not fake news, their out and out lies. Fake news is lame.

    TPTB have a serious problem their ranks are being filled with those they have spent decades educating and indoctrinating into their cult of death and destruction They are not the smartest turnips on the truck.!!!

  • Samarami

    Bill Frezza wrote a good column a couple months ago that parallels DB’s synopsis regarding what’s now being labeled “fake news”:

    http://jim.com/killer.htm Sam

  • chthompson

    Lol if they ban fake news, what will all the fake journalists at Cnn, Faux, Wapo, NY Slime, etc do for a living???

    • Dimitri Ledkovsky

      They will switch to pornography.

  • Gardentoolnumber5

    Watch out for fake news. Funny and spot on.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyS3Ghevf2I

  • henrybowmanaz

    “Fake news” was perfectly OK with Obama for the eight years that Authorized Journalists slanted the news FOR him.

  • No one special

    I dunno…”fake news” sounds like another conspiracy theory (LOL)

  • TimeToWakeUPAmerica

    The Daily Bell appears to have correctly called this one. If you want “FAKE NEWS”, just turn on your T.V., and watch ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, or ANY of the other MSM (Mainstream Media) outlets, or pick up a copy of the NEW YORK TIMES, OR THE WASHINGTON POST. However, IF you are seeking FACTUAL INFORMATION, and TRUTH, rather than Western “elite”-sponsored propaganda, you’ll need to conduct your search via the INTERNET. That’s what I did. It’s AMAZING what you will learn.

    THE FINAL DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA: JFK’S 1961 Prophecy EXPOSES Obama, SHill-ary, the ‘District’ of Criminals (D.C.), the Pope, Vatican ‘City’, the Rothschilds, the ‘City’ of London & the NWO/JWO (“Jew” World Order) http://sgtreport.com/2016/10/the-final-destruction-of-america-jfks-1961-prophecy-exposes-obama-hillary-pope-the-nwo/

    Just read all the comments. Click on all the links. Read, view, listen to ALL content.

    • concerndcitizen

      No one bothers to watch CNN unless you are held prisoner in jail or an airport.

  • rahrog

    meanwhile, the pot calls the kettle black

  • timothy price

    Was amused some time ago when Obama said that “..there are some people who do not trust their government, and if people don’t trust government, we have a problem”.
    Ha, ha. So true.

  • erikSF99

    I think one reason the accusation of ‘conspiracy theory’ has lost so much power is because–just think of this year in the Email releases the reference to a ‘shadow government’–so many conspiracies have been confirmed as fact. AND just like gays years ago took the term “queer” and claimed it as their own, now people have no trouble confirming that they are ‘truthers’ or ‘conspiracy theorists’. It’s become a badge of honor.

    Also, Zuckerberg initially rejected the idea of Facebook spreading fake news…because he knows that the liberty movement IS Facebook now. He can’t reject the majority of his customers. And when one looks on YouTube, or the news reporters Alex Jones has taken on, or Project Veritas and so on: most everyone is under 50 years old. It seems sometimes that they are all 20-something AND incredibly self-informed about history and contemporary events.

    The ‘left’ never thought about the fact that social media could be taken over by ‘the other side’. The left never thought so many young people would think independently and not follow the ‘liberal’ party line. The left never thought that the actual labels ‘left’/’right’/liberal/conservative would be dumped for people searching for the truth.

    They never thought people would investigate ‘conspiracy theories’ and discover the things that were supposed to be hidden. The Daily Bell is completely correct: the Fake News accusation/meme is destined to boomerang. In fact, it already has, the professor who published her fakenews list ended up with such a reaction that it was taken down in one day.

    AND as everyone here has commented, the most fake news is generated by the MSM. In fact, we all know that the MSM IS THE Fake News.

  • Good example of how this all work-
    The New York Times ‘Fact Checks’ Pizzagate, Labels The New Nationalist ‘Fake News’
    http://www.newnationalist.net/2016/11/22/new-york-times/

  • Josep M Esteve

    When you smell smoke, something burns.
    When corporate media begins to understand that a big part of society (specially young people) distrusts them and starts seeking information through other channels, the best solution is to compromise the new feed. In fact, it’s very difficult to distinguish the fake from the real news when you’re intensively besieged by new information you don’t even have the time to link to previous acknowledges from the same issue.
    We should try to digest slower, so we would absorb just the best part, and defecate the rest.

  • ggetaclue

    Both “conspiracy theory” and “fake news” are examples of weaponized linguistics. Promulgated by the CIA following the Kennedy assassination, “conspiracy theory” was intended to create the assumption in the reader/listener, that any proponent of a non-authorized-meme/story/spin/report was “of questionable soundness of mind.

    For decades this technique worked well. However about 20 years ago, folks started learning that many of these “conspiracy theories” were in fact, not “theories’ at all but actual events/plans/occurrences. So yes, “conspiracy theory” has lost it’s effectiveness in the main.

    “Fake news” however, is a substantially more dangerous plan; another witch hunt; another blacklist; and it won’t be largely effective either. This is why it is more dangerous — censorship is the only remedy.

    It will be interesting to see if this ultimately backfires, as so many of these tired manipulations do.

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