Is CIA Secretly backing Erdogan to Marry Islam to Russia and Create a Wider War?
By - July 21, 2016

Behind The CIA Desperate Turkey Coup Attempt Column … On the evening of July 15, a group of Turkish army officers announced that they had staged a military coup d’etat and had assumed control of the country. They claimed that Erdogan was in a desperate flight for his life and that they were now in the process of restoring order … Behind the coup attempt is a far more dramatic story of the huge geopolitical shift that the often unpredictable political survivor, President (still) Recep Erdogan, was in the midst of making when Gülen’s loyalists made their desperate, now apparently failed coup attempt. –New Eastern Outlook

Here’s an idea. Is the CIA actually supportive of Turkey’s Recep Erdogan in order to provide a plausible justification for an Islamic Turkey to ally with Russia?

Erdogan is said to be jailing plotters of the recent failed Turkish coup and many others as well. It looks more like Erdogan is removing his opponents throughout Turkey and may emerge strengthened.

Why is it important what the CIA is actually trying to do? Because we believe the ultimate aim is world war and all else is windy rhetoric. Out of chaos, a “global order,” etc.

And there is plenty of rhetoric. So we will add our odd suggestions with the intention of eliciting, perhaps, reactions and even clarifications.

Let us try to summarize …

The US and the CIA have supposedly been supporting the Islamist Gulen in Pennsylvania. Gulen is old now and probably not much of a factor when it comes to actual activity in Turkey. He has degenerated into a figurehead.

In any event, Erdogan is now dismantling his network in Turkey. The two men are enemies.

We are asked to believe the CIA is firmly anti-Erdogan. The truth is could be more nuanced, at least of late. For instance, Erdogan was recently shooting down Russian jets (he just apologized) and has been a supporter of “new” pro-Western Ukraine.

It is certainly possible that the CIA’s prejudices advance and abate depending on its objectives and who can promote them. Erdogan seems a good deal more powerful than Gulen now.

An interview with F. William Engdah in the New Eastern Outlook – see excerpt above – tells us that the CIA has made a “desperate coup attempt” and lost.

Is this realistic? Or is the truth more complex?

Erdogan is not a big booster of the current secular state in Turkey. He would like to orient Turkey toward Sunni-Sharia from what we can tell.

We are also told that Erdogan has approached Russia and is in the process, once again, of becoming a Russian ally because of CIA “enmity” and continued ISIS attacks.

Now we have Middle East and near Asia map that allies Turkey with Russia against the EU, Britain and the US.

Let us note that Putin genuinely does not seem to want the war that the West is setting up in his backyard.

NATO and the US are forcing it upon him and have created tensions by gaining control of Ukraine.

But somehow the CIA at the same time has managed to lose Turkey. (At the moment anyway.)

The Pentagon and CIA have turned Ukraine away from Russia, maneuvered Russia into an anti-NATO posture and set four or five Middle Eastern countries aflame with war.

But they have failed with Erdogan? Or was the coup somehow intended to fail? For instance, pro-coup jets reportedly had Erdogan’s plane in their sights but didn’t shoot him down.

In any event, we see as a result  the emergent creation of “sides” of a new, wider war.

On one side a marriage of moderate Islam to Russia via a resurgent quasi-Ottoman empire.

On the other side, the US, Britain and NATO.

Do the wars in the Middle East begin to make sense now? Was the idea perhaps always, sooner or later, to involve Russia in the mix and create a Russian-Islamic alliance that the West could oppose? The Islamic migrations into Europe serve the purpose of further uniting the EU against Russia and Turkey.

Here’s another thought: The US vetoed an evacuation of Incirlik Air Base, post coup. The power remains off at the base and no supplies are coming in. Is Erdogan of the mind to confiscate nuclear weapons?

Conclusion: This is one idea: that Western interests trying to incite a wider war may not be entirely disappointed the coup has failed. If another coup is fomented against Erdogan with CIA backing, or something else happens, then our current suspicions will obviously evolve. Time will tell.

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  • EDD

    In reading your recent articles about how extreme Muslims are entering many nations and causing havoc in those countries, I have been surprised that the DB has taken a position defending mainstream Islam. Not that I disagree with those articles because I have been a student of comparative religions for years and have discovered a unifying thread in the basic premises of all the worlds major religions.

    In each instance of a new philosophical approach that has resulted in a ‘religious movement’, each spiritual leader has contributed to wanting a greater peaceful society which was exemplified by living the life the leader professed. Some of the students who come after studying the philosophical pursuits of the precepts set forth by the teacher are often the first to want to codify those teachings in such a way as to control the masses.

    The effective result is a watering down of the original philosophy and, as time marches on, some see inconsistencies and move apart from the predominate organization to start a new movement based upon their perceived discrepancies. Using Christianity as an example, the world now has many protestant movements which have split off from the original ‘mother church’. Many adherents of a given religious thought close themselves off from realizing further enlightenment of thought because they use the religious principles they were taught as a crutch.

    Most of your readers are aware of how TPTB are using these religious differences to create instability. I must admit that for the life of me, I haven’t been able to understand the concepts TPTB are using when they have blamed the Twin Towers destruction on the Muslim community except to create fear and dissension in the larger society. Your articles have been invaluable to me in that I am looking at a ‘third party viewpoint’ which is not available in the ‘two party’ steering committee used to guide public opinion.

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    • You should receive today. Let us know if you don’t, thanks.

  • Cristi

    The author forgets that the Russia – Iran relationship existed long before Turkey switched from friend to enemy to possible friend again now. So the motive to put the NATO against Islam existed before. US and UK were close to bombing Iran several years ago. But made it into negotiations. There are circles in Washington that wanted Iran bombed out of existence. But this means nothing. Smarter heads prevailed.

    I do not believe the thesis in this article. The coup in Turkey failed because the Russians intercepted communications between the military organizers with several hours before it began and alerted Erdogan and MIT. That is end of it.

    • It is certainly possible that things are what they seem. On the other hand, Erdogan’s revitalized relationship with Russia may serve the purpose of increasing wider tensions. Coincidentally or not, this serves the City’s purposes.By the way, Western powers are surely anxious to create SUNNI tensions above all else. Iran is Shia. Anyway, it’s not a “thesis” but a “suspicion.”

      • notinmyname

        Given that the two (sunni and shia sects) are at each others’ throats it is surprising that the Western powers – as you note – are anxious to create sunni tensions. Establishing the dominant sect in any one area gives a vital clue as to the nature of the dynamic. The Syrian debacle, for example, seems to be primarily about preventing a shia arc of power from Iran (mainly shia), though Irag (where shia militia are in the ascendant), through to Syria and the sea. Oil again! Pipelines . . . etc., etc. All tensions are good from the market’s point of view: prices go up: somebody makes a killing – pun intended – and prices go down: someone else makes a killing. The Turkish problem is compounded by the fact that erdogan Jr is (or, at any rate, was) heavily implicated in providing ISIS with a means of exporting oil. With the crackdown, there’ll be no talk of prosecuting him!
        I suspect that economic movement/pressures will be the dominant force in the end – notwithstanding some heavy-duty bargaining around the nuclear missiles at Incirlik. (Apropos which, is anyone reporting the ships currently AWOL from the Turkish navy? I thought not!) The Turkish lira will collapse (probably), and Turkish stocks, ditto.
        Much is made of the parallels between Erdogan and Hitler. Worth bearing in mind, then, that the latter came to power following an almight currency collapse.
        I am still trying to cudgel my brains trying to establish whether it was “cock-up” that won the day with the abortive coup, or was that result waht was meant to happen. It occurs to me that it might be too much even for the CIA to “mind” Gulen and Erdogan simultaneously? Is the CIA that good/expert? (I have no way of knowing!)

      • Samarami

        “…It is certainly possible that things are what they seem…”

        True. I’m convinced that a major gambit in the science of rulership is to make certain nothing is what “it” seems. That nobody can out-guess the guessers.

        Also, major players in what we think of as “power elite” are not monolithic clones to each other. Each has an agenda. Each plays her cards. And counts her money — after the dealing’s done.

        But it is important to restrain the hoi polloi — the producers who finance it all — from catching a glimpse of who is holding which hand at any given round, in the evil game of world conquest. I suspect there is enough urbanity among the players to maintain that discipline. Sam

  • notinmyname

    Your observations that truth is more nuanced and complex is, I suspect, the only absolute thing that can be relied upon in this whole sorry saga of smoke-and-mirrors. Fethullah Gulen – in person – is no more, now, than a figurehead; the organization he represents is what is important. Erdogan frequently refers to a “parallel state” in terms of state (military, civil service, education) apparatus staffed by those developed (I hesitate to use the word “indoctrinated”) through the Gulenist foundations. He has a lot of enemies: the numbers given for those arrested for various “crimes” are large, but in context of a very large population with supporting apparatus probably amount to no more than he (Erdigan) can handle.
    While I agree entirely about ” the CIA’s prejudices advance and abate depending on its objectives”, this can be applied to Russia as well, probably Syria, Iran – Uncle Tom Cobbley and all. My guess is that the CIA “missed a trick” with the attempted coup. Erdogan described it as “a gift from God!”. I don’t think the CIA do God. Which is why they miscalculated. Russia and President Putin, I suspect, don’t “do God”, but then, neither do they wish to be seen promoting mohammedanism in any form. The Russains may tolerate it, but if they do so it will be in terms of a large and (possibly) non-harmful reptile hiding under the house. The Russians have far more to fear from rampant mohammedan resurgence in cahoods with Turkey’s Erdogan.

    • Praetor

      Yes! Russia close to the action. U.S. over here. It would be hard for Russia to cause the same kind of trouble in Canada or even Mexico!!!

      • notinmyname

        Russia is awfully close to Alaska! *G

        • Praetor

          Yeah, true!!!

  • Praetor

    Hard to tell what truth is here! So, this come down to what do I think, and I mean what one thinks as an individual. Fact is Erdogan was in trouble with friend and foe.

    Turkey is that rock people speak of, the one stuck next to the hard place. Europe on one side, and Middle East on the other. Russia and the U.S. looking down on the mess.

    Erdogan will do what ever it takes to survive those out to get him. He has a couple of millions of more refuges he could push forward. Erdogan needs money, because tourism will go negative.

    At the time of the so called coup, Erdogan was in a plane and the so called plotters had an opportunity to drop his plane, but did not. Makes you wonder. I think it was to strengthen Erdogan’s power in Turkey, plain and simple. Turkish economy tanking or already tanked. Erdogan took advantage to eliminate some enemies, because he has a lot of enemies. Erdogan took to the TV and told the people to take to the streets and show support for the Democratically elected government?

    The world doesn’t need Erdogan, anyone can do his job!!!

    • notinmyname

      Someone once said “It’s the economy, Stupid!”. I think that this will be case here – as you rightly point out with tanking economies. The question, I suspect, will be precisely how much economic hardship the Turkish population will accept in the interests of preserving Turkish identity? Clearly in a country with about a 50/50 split between very poor religiously-minded patriarchal peasantry (from which Erdogan draws his power base) and (comparatively) well off, well educated, liberal and egalitarian metropolitan half, it could be interesting. My bet would be on the peasantry. Every time.
      They will take as much economic punishment as needed.
      When Erdogan plays the “democracy” card, it is important to remember that it is not democracy, _per se_, he speaks of, but a particular brand of Turkish nationalism that inspired by Kemal Ataturk in the 1920s when the Turkish republic was formed. Turks are intensely patriotic and they associate the notion of “democracy” with the Ataturk movement.
      If he can portray himself as oppressed on every side – particulary if the US does not stump up with regard to Fethullah Gulen – he will take this as evidence of betrayal. Then we can kiss goodbye to Turkey’s membership of NATO.
      And those pesky missiles at Incirlik too.

      • Praetor

        Correct! Turkey is one of those countries that can be ruled through the mob, for quite some time. I personally believe, Erdogan is behind all we see in Turkey at this time, its about his survival. What goes on in Turkey is very interesting. The U.S. has some very important military bases in Turkey and not just for flying missions into Syria. There is nothing saying Russia can’t make terrorists. The U.S. does it.

        The old ‘Cold War’ strategies in play. You bunch me in Ukraine, I bunch you in Turkey.

        It seems they are playing the old game again!!!

        • notinmyname

          Then Erdogan is playing “for keeps”. He cannot be quietly “retired”: he will go down fighting and, so long as he has the 50% “old guard” (de-Gulened military and judiciary and country peasantry) by his side it will be bloody and protracted. (What kind of ground forces, for example, could an Erdigan-userper use?) I think his (former?) allies have bitten off more than they can chew. Which is hugely entertaining.
          I think the Ukraine fiasco is now going to be something of a sideshow as all concerned parties (except for Russia – who can be relied onto play a long game) have shot their bolt. I should add, that, in my opinion, the Crimea always was Russian. The Ukraine was a legitimate sphere of interest: Russian and European histories tend to confirm that. I cannot envisage Russian expansion, as there is no earthly reason for that to happen, and I do _not_ think President Putin wants a war. Certainly not one about Europe, anyway. He is the only adult in the room!
          Wouldn’t it be wonderful if President Trump and President Putin had a one-to-one? I think they would really sort things out. In my dreams!

  • Hugh

    It is an interesting theory and could gain currency as the situation evolves.

    What throws a wrench into the machine of your hypothesis, at least for me, is Turkey’s recent overtures toward the normalization of relations with Zionist Israel and their complicit goals of recognizing the secular government of Syria’s Assad.

    What confuses me further is that there doesn’t seem to be any distinction being made between Oded Yinon’s white paper describing plans for the greater Israel project and the blatantly obvious balkanization of Syria, Iraq, Turkey and Iran to establish a “Greater Kurdistan” for what is essentially and historically a nomadic people. Go figure, huh?

    I’m unclear as to whether the ‘real’ end game here is another WW or if it’s actually just carving out more turf for Israel. The war could simply be the means to which they hope to achieve their ultimate objective, a Greater Israel as well as smaller, weaker, certainly more compliant neighboring nation-states.

  • Tsigantes

    You are overlooking the single most important factor here which is the Israeli / US determination to create a pseudo-Kurdistan out of northern Iraq, eastern Turkey (approx. 30% of Turkey’s landmass), northwestern Iran and northeast Syria. This is part of the Yinon-plan inspired balkanization of the Middle East in which 11 countries are turned into 17 easy-to-control mini-states.

    To view go to the US Army Maj. Ralph Peters map:

    The New Middle East Plan was signed into existence as official US/NATO/Israeli policy at Tel Aviv in June 2006 (during Israel’s failed war on Lebanon) by Ehud Olmert and Condaleeza Rice. This policy has been underway since that time.

    All countries negatively affected (Turkey, KSA, Syria, Pakistan etc.) have been in a schizophrenic mode since that time, at first trying to avoid their fate by cooperating with their US “allies” and then gradually realizing that cooperation is buying them nothing. Erdogan is a good example, sacrificing Turkey’s historically good relations with Syria to this end. The first Turkish PM to make peace with the Kurds and give them some autonomy (you won’t hear about this now from the MSM) he turned on them last year to stop them from cooperating with the US – if they did.

    The NE corner of Syria, btw, has never been Kurdish, though it has hosted PKK refugee Kurds from Turkey since the time of Assad’s father, 25 years ago. It is the oldest Christian area outside Palestine but more important, it is the location of the rich Euphrates farmlands which Israel wants. The projected Greater Israel [as ever with Israel, no map supplied] stretches from the Nile to the Euphrates.

    The details of the New Middle East Plan has never been properly revealed in the media, though there was extensive coverage of the signing. It was revealed to NATO in April 2006 at Rome, where the Turkish contingent – unforewarned – famously rose to their feet en bloc and walked out. In early 2007 there was an invited reception of diplomats and senior media pundits in Brussels which I attended.

    Global Research and Voltaire Network have both covered it.

    Gulen, a CIA asset and jihadist, and his Gulenist movement are prepared to break up Turkey. Erdogan, a Gulenist originally and US place man, turned out to be a patriot.

    • Thanks for bringing up an important point. However, Turkey has moved closer to Russia as a result of this coup and the two countries can be presented as an even more powerful enemy to the West. We’ve mentioned the Balkanization you speak of in terms of the European Union, which increasingly looks as if it has been built to blow up.

      The “City” of course does not wish for a more “peaceful” Middle East. In fact. we believe the plan may be to widen military tensions to include the EU – else why encourage so much destabilizing immigration?

      • Hugh

        I’m not so sure that I agree that Turkey embracing Russia is a result of the attempted coup DB.

        While they certainly do present a formidable front for Langley’s influence peddlers to promote as the next “axis of evil”, Erdogan had publicly written to Putin previously, expressing his condolences to the family of the downed Russian pilot, even going so far as to offering compensation to the family while also saying that he wished to normalize relations with the two countries.

        This gesture occurred prior to the coup and while I may be wrong about any effect it may have had on Putin, it doesn’t appear on the surface that it was a direct result of the attempted coup.

        • notinmyname

          President Erdogan is too wily and independent minded to bother too much about from where he can draw a political advantage.

      • Tsigantes

        We’re on the same page. The Balkanisation of Europe and the Middle East, along with destruction and war, serves the same purpose for both the USA and Israel.

        For this reason a Turkish-Russian alliance along with an Iranian-Syrian-Lebanese alliance gives great hope despite the prospect of war.

    • notinmyname

      Gulen may well have been complicit in that plan but Erdogan was probably not. Hence the strength of his position now. He, and the AK Party will resist all attempts to form a “new” Kurdistan by carving out sovereign territory. Your point about the realization that cooperation buys them nothing is entirely valid: Erdogan has, I think, twigged that and the result will only be a stiffening of resolve. The imposition of a state of emergency gives him a fantastic window of opportunity – which he will enlargen and extend perfectly legitimately – to impose personal presidential-style rule. Finally. The acid test will come when he is, at last, prepared to disavow the US – which will happen if more concrete support is not forthcoming from his, one-time allies; he has, evidently, realigned to his particular political and strategic advantage. Alliances are only useful insofar as they are advantageous and are not – as history shows – carved in stone. Thus, touching on the DB’s point below, a Turkish-Russian axis now seems highly likely. After all, Russia has had some pretty dubious alliances in the 20th century.
      The EU is, increasingly, looking like a “busted flush”. There does not seem to be the same appetite for expansion eastwards.
      I would still like to know about the whereabouts of that missing part of the Turkish navy which went AWOL.

  • Stephen Persaud

    I guess it’s all about playing the “long game”……..after all didn’t France help to set up the Islamic Republic of Iran ?

    President Valéry Giscard d’Estaing had invited the Shah of Iran as his first official foreign guest, in view of France’s interest in Iranian oil. In 1978, Giscard and his Interior Minister Michel Poniatowski foresaw the collapse of the Shah’s government, which would damage France’s commercial interests.

    The proposal was then raised to bring the Ayatollah Khomeini to Algeria. Before, he had been chased from one place to the other. The DST, the French secret service, opposed his entry but Giscard overruled them and granted Khomeini political asylum in France

    At the end of the 1960s, the Seven Sisters, the major oil companies, controlled 85 percent of the world’s oil reserves. Today, they control just 10 percent.

    New hunting grounds are therefore required, and the Sisters have turned their gaze towards Africa. With peak oil, wars in the Middle East, and the rise in crude prices, Africa is the oil companies’ new battleground.

    But the real story, the secret story of oil, begins far from Africa.

    In their bid to dominate Africa, the Sisters installed a king in Libya, a dictator in Gabon, fought the nationalisation of oil resources in Algeria, and through corruption, war and assassinations, brought Nigeria to its knees

    In the 1960s, Turkish workers arrived in Germany to fill the demand for cheap labor in a booming post-war economy. Many of them never left, creating a minority community that changed the demographics of Germany forever

    Khatib-Shahidi, R.A. (2013). German Foreign Policy Towards Iran Before World War II: Political Relations, Economic Influence and the National Bank of Persia

    who pulls whose chain ??

  • nathenism

    i’m glad the article brings up what i think is the most important point of all, that: “the ultimate aim is world war and all else is windy rhetoric”..i’m fairly convinced they will start that with nuking israhell, then blaming iran and nuking them..i wonder if this article’s theory touches on their plan to ultimately blame russia for the mother of all false flags..

  • Pilgrim

    I don’t have a clue just how influential or powerful the CIA really is on the world stage. Or if absent their efforts the world would be a safer and more peaceful place.

    But one thing I do know. Their ham-handed interventions could bring war to America’s shores if they piss off the wrong people enough.