More Dangerous than ISIS?
By Philippe Gastonne - June 24, 2015

One of Russia's most alarming new weapons capabilities may be on the move soon. Jane's reports that KBM, a state-owned armament company specializing in missile systems, recently presented its 9K333 Verba man-portable air-defense system (MANPADS).

At an arms fair this week, the company announced that the weapon had been cleared for export — although KBM designer Gen. Velariy Kashin would not reveal the foreign buyer or buyers.

Kashin described the 9K333 Verba as "the most capable" MANPADS ever developed, according to Jane's. Missiles are guided to their targets using a "three-channel optical seeker, which operates in the ultraviolet, near-infrared, and mid-infrared wavelengths," a feature that increases the weapon's accuracy and speeds up its target acquisition. – Business Insider, June 19, 2015

During the Cold War, American soldiers learned to fear the Soviet Union's advanced weaponry and fanatical communist foot soldiers. Where did we get this fear? Our leaders instilled it in us.

As it turned out, the fears were misplaced. We learned in the 1990s that most Soviet-era weapons threatened their hapless users far more than they would have hurt us. Some of our own equipment was not much better, frankly, despite costing exponentially more.

However, one weapons category worked well enough to change the course of history. The portable Redeye and Stinger antiaircraft missiles the U.S. supplied to Afghani mujahedeen quickly cleared that nation's skies of Soviet helicopters. The vaunted Red Army went back home after taking heavy losses. A few years later, it ceased being Red. Then it stopped being an "army" in any recognizable sense, too.

Fast-forward 20 years. It would be no surprise if the Verba missiles that Vladimir Putin just released for export don't work as advertised. If they do, however, they could potentially give insurgents around the world a key advantage over the U.S. government and its various client regimes.

We saw what could happen when "someone" shot down a Malaysian airliner over Ukraine last year. The weapon in that case appears to have been a track-mounted Russian missile. Such launchers need well-trained crews and take time to move around. Not so for the Verba; it weighs 50 pounds and can hide inside a small truck or boat. Operating it isn't difficult, either.

The Verba's claimed vertical range is around 14,000 feet. That means no airport on the planet will be safe unless reliable ground forces secure near-total control for several miles in all directions. ISIS will be the least of our worries in that situation.

Again, this weapon may not work as well as its maker claims. Nevertheless, the perception it might work could change the geopolitical landscape quickly.

Russia can sell these missiles to whomever it wishes. That being the case, the recent Western saber rattling at Putin could start to look even more misguided. Backing a rat into a corner is almost never a good idea. Take away his other choices and he will turn vicious.

There is a potentially positive side, however. American military aircraft can avoid these missiles by not flying into war zones in which they have no business anyway. Maybe losing our perceived aerial invulnerability will persuade the public not to support so many overseas interventions.

Not that it will matter. The military-industrial complex can buy all the support it needs.

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  • Midnight Gardener

    Finally, something for we the people to cheer about, “There is a potentially positive side, however. American military
    aircraft can avoid these missiles by not flying into war zones in which
    they have no business anyway. Maybe losing our perceived aerial
    invulnerability will persuade the public not to support so many overseas

    • Rainmaker

      As soon as the article mentions that MH17 was shot down by a BUK, I call BS.

      • Midnight Gardener

        I did not read that…maybe it was implied, but it was not clearly stated. Maybe they wanted to spread the propaganda, but did not want anyone to think they were stupid enough to believe that it was fact.


  • Tlo

    Afghani is a currency, Afghans are the people…

    • Incorrect.

      Afghani (cap A): A native or inhabitant of Afghanistan; an Afghan. (and, of or relating to Afghanistan) (and, an Iranian language spoken in Afghanistan and Pakistan; the official language of Afghanistan)

      afghani (lowercase A): the standard monetary unit of Afghanistan, divided into 100 puli

      • Sorry DB but Tio is just helping you out. Every Afghan I ever called afghani hated it. They view the term universally as the word for the currency; only blue eyed devils like me call them that derogatory. This WSU link is from Common Errors in English Language by Paul Brians:

        • Aha. Well, then, we stand corrected and the dictionary could use an update. Apologies and thanks to you both, if that’s the case.

  • sleat

    The new missile this article talks about appears to be very advanced compared to existing ones, but the idea that suddenly “no airport is safe” (unlike before?) is a bit of hyperbole I think, and here’s why:

    From the first fielded Soviet MANPAD systems, in many respects similar to the US “Redeye”, all that was needed was an aircraft in-range, heading away, with a decent thermal signature. A multiengine civilian aircraft climbing out after takeoff is plenty.

    Missles have only gotten better since then. Newer examples mainly focus on improved performance against cooler targets, and targets using countermeasures like flares and IR decoy jammers. Newer missiles can successfully engage targets from forward-aspect, and continue to home on targets even if they engage in evasive maneuvering. Civilian aircraft can easily be attacked from the rear, and do not decoy, nor evade.

    Civil air traffic within range is not viewed as any sort of difficult target for any generation of MANPADS. Anything with a hot exhaust, and not using countermeasures is vulnerable to virtually any generation of portable missile made by any country, providing the target is in range.

    As the Soviets learned in Afghanistan, even outdated Redeye missiles were a risk, and modern civilian aircraft are at least as easy a target as an MI-8 or MI-24.

    So, yes, the new missile is of some concern, I’d say mainly to tactical aviation fighting forces like ISIS in the Middle-East, if they manage to get these missiles, but if we’re selling worry for civilian airliners being put at risk outside warzones by these things, we’re late to market.

    Several incidents involving these being fired at non-combat aircraft have already occurred.

    The risk of proliferation of ANY description of MANPADS into the suburbs of Western countries has been with us for many years.

    What’s been lacking, thankfully, is the will by an enemy to use them.

  • The signs of the end times are everywhere…

    As we witness such things as the spread of globalism, the building of a one-world church, the increase of wickedness, the breakdown of the traditional family, the destruction of that priceless bastion of liberty called America, the normalization of homosexuality, the callous murder of babies, the filthy pop culture, the breathtaking increase in governmental surveillance, we become fearful, uncertain, frustrated, angry, and discouraged, but this is because our minds and hearts are too focused on things of this world rather than things above. Too often we have the same short view that “conservative” unbelievers have rather than the long view that comes from the light of Bible prophecy…

    The devil is the god of this world, and his handiwork is evident everywhere, but he is not God and he is not in control of the times and the seasons…

    “Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his: And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding” (Dan. 2:20-21).

    We should stand in the confidence that the present evil is exceedingly temporary and will soon be cut down..

    Please visit our Bible Prophecy website at:

    • bouf

      Please visit and realize that the ‘End Times’ have come and gone.

      • William Scott

        I’m not sure which I find ‘more intriguing…’ the OBVIOUS trolls? Or the nearly as obvious ‘what’s you take of this subject,’ so STRATFOR, Palatin, MOSSAD, the NSA, CIA, et al can better ‘profile you,’ via ‘alt media?’ (InfoWars, comes to mind…) In the odd instance that anyone using the above moniker is ‘for real’ that ignorant today… it should be standard ‘reeducation’ for every American, UKer, Aussie, etc. that the ROMANS (re)created ‘New Testament, Christianity’ (as well as the modern Judaism… which was ‘hijacked’ by those crafty ‘AshkeNAZI Khasarians’ who with MUCH assistance of the Roman Crown Banksters, Jesuits and RCC, etc. ‘reestablished’ a faux IS-RA-EL for the next version of ‘biblical PROPHESY theatre,’ ROMAN style.) If fact in 2015, it frankly boggles my mind that so few people are AWARE OF this obvious FORGERY we call the ‘New Testament…’ or the one before it… written in GREEK! (That Josephus used for ‘inspiration,’ when he and his assistants ‘rewrote’ the Judaic account, which of course came from the Phonecians, Babylonians, and Egyptians before that… and IN FACT there were DOZENS of very similar accounts of basically the same mythologies, going back at least 6,500 years.) I’d LOVE to see what’ all the VATICAN has stashed in their ‘caticombs,’ from the spoils of all those battles and the sackings of say, the Library of Alexandria. Or more recently, what they got from the Nazis, or Russia, etc. after their second staged, World War. But one things for certain… the Jesuit (Templars) are back in the ‘drivers seat’ of the ‘pope mobile…’ so ‘god knows’ what might happen, next? (An ‘acting out’ of ‘Revelations,’ perhaps?! Hmmm… the URL is ‘privacy protected’ in Queensland: itshallcometopass .org .) BTW, hereafter’s another ‘researcher,’ who came to the same conclusions. “Faking the New Testament- A masterplan for geo-political domination:”

    • Gil G

      You wish.

    • James Clander

      Interesting that the religious nut jobs are out in full flight re this article. If it wasn’t so sad it could almost get a laugh.

  • NobodysaysBOO

    We do NOT WANT TINY AIRPLANE SEATS and bullshit at the gate!
    Let the JEWS fight their own stinking enemies and use the TAX MONEY FOR US CITIZENS!

  • As many other readers have pointed out both Eastern and Western military have had SHORAD capabilities like that mentioned in the article. Any time you go to an arms fair or a vendor expo of any sort, you run into retired general so-and-so hyping up the advanced capabilities of the latest widget. I don’t see how a sov-block MANPAD with a 14,000 foot range changes anything since FIM-92 and Starstreak surpass this. Note that the US is happy to sell advanced weapons to our own enemies. Does DB have a military/intel correspondent or consultant?

    • Patrick Watson

      I think the real point is that Russia says it is exporting MANPADS and not saying to whom. Putin would clearly like to get in a blow as retribution for the US/EU economic sanctions. This is one more reason we should mind our own business.

      • Bruce C.

        They may be selling them to the ISIS so that the US isn’t accused of supporting them.

      • That’s fair and I would agree with you, only what I mean to point out is that the Russians have already been selling this tech all over the world and so has the US. If the Russians want to sell their most advanced MANPADS to ISIS they are merely in competition with the US to see who can arm them faster. If Putin wants to get back at US all he has to do is assist the Iranians with uranium enrichment; oh wait, he already is.

        Maybe EVERY State Actor should mind their own GD business.

  • Joelg

    Meme planted in MSM to further Neo-Con war agenda against Russia; which Russia is turning into a weapons sales and marketing advantage? Let me clarify: Russia knows it cannot win the propaganda war, so it might as well use the meme to sell missiles (buyers will think if it was good enough to shoot down MH17, it will bring down CIA drones, etc.).

    Link, Malaysian press []

    A Thursday article in the New Straits Times, Malaysia’s flagship English-language newspaper, charged the US- and European-backed Ukrainian regime in Kiev with shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH 17 in east Ukraine last month. Given the tightly controlled character of the Malaysian media, it appears that the accusation that Kiev shot down MH17 has the imprimatur of the Malaysian state.

    The US and European media have buried this remarkable report, which refutes the wave of allegations planted by the CIA in international media claiming that Russian president Vladimir Putin was responsible for the destruction of MH17, without presenting any evidence to back up this charge.

    The New Straits Times article, titled “US analysts conclude MH17 downed by aircraft,” lays out evidence that Ukrainian fighter aircraft attacked the jetliner with first a missile, then with bursts of 30-millimeter machine gun fire from both sides of MH17. The Russian army has already presented detailed radar and satellite data showing a Ukrainian Sukhoi-25 fighter jet tailing MH17 shortly before the jetliner crashed. The Kiev regime denied that its fighters were airborne in the area, however.

    The New Straits Times article began, “Intelligence analysts in the United States have already concluded that Malaysia flight MH17 was shot down by an air-to-air missile, and that the Ukrainian government had had something to do with it. This corroborates an emerging theory postulated by local investigators that the Boeing 777-200 was crippled by an air-to-air missile and finished off with cannon fire from a jet that had been shadowing it as it plummeted to earth.”

  • Joelg

    “Maybe losing our perceived aerial invulnerability will persuade the public not to support so many overseas interventions.” DB/PG

    How is the public going to do that persuading? Will it be by voting for Neo-Con War Monger Hilary, or one of the many War Party GOP candidates? Or perhaps the military-industrial-Congressional complex will have an epiphany, and grow flowers instead of serving their bottom line interests. Unfortunately, American public loves war spectacles, especially when it is destroying somebody else’s house and lands.

    Shot down pilots will become heroes, like McCain, and be celebrated. New better aircraft will be developed and sold on the premise of not being so easily shot down. Perhaps this will even spur sales and development contracts for robotic fleets or remotely operated drone fighter aircraft that are even more costly. Riches await from the current crop of fighter planes being shot down by Russian missiles bought by rebels supplied with CIA funding.

    • Bruce C.

      Yeah, I didn’t get that part either. I didn’t know that the public supports so many overseas interventions.

    • Fabian

      That may effectively be what will happen. That’s as long as there is money….

  • Eliseo

    You know that all these things must happen, all these man made disturbances in the earth and sin is multiplying, but the end is not yet.
    In the days of Noah the whole world of old was evil and their very thoughts were evil ‘continuously’ except from perhaps only Noah, then the flood happened.
    All those who trust in the Lord have peace of mind and can sleep at night. Nevertheless, we ‘Christians’ are being hated more and more and that seems a bad thing at the time when is happening, but if we are followers of Jesus we will all eventually suffer persecution
    But in the end – We Win!

    • Gil G

      With garbage like that you would want war, suffering and death than actually doing anything to make the world a better place because “all this will come to pas and you’ll be with Jesus soon enough.”

      • Eliseo

        Everything you wrote is proof enough of what I said in my humble comment.
        Everything is coming to pass, and I know your hatred is blinding you to see further than your nose.

        • Gil G

          So you would dearly love to see fellow Christian getting killed because life is that terrible, tedious period before meeting up with God? Heaven forbid you meet Him and tells you He prefers to be called Allah these days.

          • I didn’t get the Allah memo. If that’s the case is it too late to be a agnostic? Seriously…

    • James Clander

      Agree that your religious spouting is garbage. Fundamentalist so called Christians are the problem with the USA and your Govt is crammed full with them – preaching hate & war . I totally regect the notion that you could be humble . LOL -Enough said.

  • ron17571

    Our own Economy,Debt. Is what we should be worried about. The Russians and Chinese don’t need to fire a shot. Our country is going the death by thousands of cuts thing,Most from the wealthy upon our own country.

  • James Clander

    “Russia can sell these missiles to whomever it wishes. That being the case, the recent Western saber rattling at Putin could start to look even more misguided. Backing a rat into a corner is almost never a good idea. Take away his other choices and he will turn vicious.

    The words ” Rat ‘s” & “Vicious” more aptly describe the criminal US Govt which really does have serious blood on it hands. The Middle East is on fire & they’re trying hard to start a War in Europe. It isn’t Russia that’s encircling the USA.

    “American military aircraft can avoid these missiles by not flying into war zones in which they have no business anyway ”
    — yes and the cowardly fly boys launch their missiles from up to 200miles away even against a 3rd world Country.
    Hopefully Russia does export these missiles to every country where the USA war machine has poked its head