New Era: Hillary Loses Control of ‘Net Narrative
By Daily Bell Staff - September 15, 2016

Billionaire businessman Mark Cuban, a fierce supporter of Hillary Clinton, said the Democratic nominee’s recent health episode is being overblown.  “It’s not crazy, it’s lazy,” he told Business Insider in a Monday interview regarding coverage of Clinton’s pneumonia. -Business Insider

It’s a battle of memes and elite dispensers are growing irritated and increasingly worried about losing control (see excerpt, above).

This didn’t happen in the  20th century or even at the beginning of the 21st. It’s something new, spawned directly by the Internet.

And right now Hillary is the main target and victim. At least the most high profile.

Hillary herself saw it coming. During remarks to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee back in early 2011, she stated (here) that the US was engaged in an information “war” and was losing.

At the time she pointed toward the Chinese and the Russians as “winning” the information war and indicated watching their English-language channels was “instructive.”

But if one judges from recent statements by Hillary and her campaign, the real concern is domestic reporting.

Her campaign recently bashed conservative/libertarian publishing group Breitbart and in a speech she directly attacked one of the most prominent alternative media groups, Alex Jones and his Infowars.

Cuban is expressing irritation at a single topic, Hillary’s health, but the larger issue is even more important:

Gradually elite propaganda is being undermined by ‘Net information watched by more and more people. Additionally, this information is obviously seen as credible or the audience would be shrinking not growing.

The influence of alternative ‘Net media is becoming overwhelming. Even a few years ago ‘Net information might debunk a given elite meme. But debunkery focused on specific issues, ones such as vaccines, central banking and US serial warfare.

But now Internet information is superseding elite propaganda and is choosing its own targets.

It is become proactive rather than reactive.

Hillary never issued much information on her health but it became an issue nonetheless. The Internet forced the issue. And then as events occurred, the ‘Net meme spread considerably.


“You know, it’s one thing to speculate on Hillary’s health and that’s fair game for obvious reasons, but the reality is in one week, we’ll know,” Cuban said …

He added that he’s frustrated with the media’s focus on such issues, pointing the finger at both online and more traditional outlets.

Cuban can continue to be frustrated and that’s probably because he is missing the point. He is reacting to a specific story but he is not addressing the larger issue.

The “mass media” in an unprecedented fashion is losing control.

This is not merely opinion. Statistics regularly indicate this is occurring.  Just the other day, Gallup updated a poll on “confidence in media.”

  • 32% say they have “a great deal” or “a fair amount” of trust
  • 14% of Republicans express trust, down from 32% last year
  • Confidence drops among younger and older Americans

Now it is true that the article did not exactly differentiate between mainstream and alternative media. In fact, in using the term “mass media,” the survey purposefully blurred the responses. Here:

With the explosion of the mass media in recent years, especially the prevalence of blogs, vlogs and social media, perhaps Americans decry lower standards for journalism.

When opinion-driven writing becomes something like the norm, Americans may be wary of placing trust on the work of media institutions that have less rigorous reporting criteria than in the past. On the other hand, as blogs and social media “mature,” they may improve in the American public’s eyes. This could, in turn, elevate Americans’ trust and confidence in the mass media as a whole.

This is nonsense, of course. We can see clearly that as the mainstream media shrinks, alternative media proliferates. The most influential news service in the US if not the world is

But there are plenty of other large, alternative news sources. Breitbart is another one. WorldNetDaily is a third. Mises and, too.

Meanwhile, mainstream organizations like the New York Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post, BusinessWeek, Newsweek and many, many more, struggle to continue publishing. Increasingly, they are sold and resold for pittance or even given away to a new owner willing to tolerate the continued losses.

The result increasingly is that Internet media doesn’t just respond to mainstream memes but is actually launching its own. ‘Net analysis now creates the conversation rather than perpetuates it.

Conclusion: We are acutely aware of the evolution of the ‘Net conversation because we analyze it every day. We can see it shifting and growing. And, yes, as a result there will be significant attacks launched against it. Those are just beginning.

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  • I did not realize Cuban(s) had a say in the election.
    Most Cuban(s) are kind of stupid when in comes to democratic politics.
    Mark is no exception.

    • max naegele

      having said that, fidel is not the worst and let s not 4get that he had every right to get rid of battista? plus if the land of the free would not have forced him into the arms of russia a lot of “misunderstanding” could have been avoided! viva fidel!

      • hotho

        Well, if that’s the case, why not viva Stalin? They both knew how to mass murder.

        • Marcopolo

          In case you haven’t noticed, we’ve got them both beat by a long shot. At least with them, if you want to place blame, you had a name and a face. Not here. All of the Imperial City has manufactured, “plausible” deniability.

          • JohnnyZ

            Stalin, Washington DC – two sides of the same coin.

        • max naegele

          if u compare stalin with fidel, then I rest my case! 4 starters fidel s system is pretty much still in place and well loved and respected by half of all cubans whereas stalin s heritage has truly been destroyed a long long time ago and never has he enjoyed the support of the russians! the proof s in the pudding!

    • NervoLecluque

      The fabulous stupidity of these two comments, along with the D.B.’s seeming approval of the paranoid lies spewed by Drudge and Beitbart dot coms, show how insane, lowbrow and poisonous the atmosphere in the U.S. has become. Congratulations, Right-wingers – we’ll soon have a slobbering, ignorant, bullying crook in the Oval Orifice, and a dimwitted Slovenian soft-core porn bimbo as 1st lady. Hooray for the defeat of the “Elitist Left”!

    • NervoLecluque

      “Cuban’s” is the possessive, Jack. I’m sure you meant to use the plural.

  • Renov8

    The beauty with the internet news and comments is the immediate pulse of how people are responding to news trends, articles and just plain BS. The results are immediate. illary and her memes are just about to go down for good, once the lid comes off the bogus pneumonia narrative. The overwhelming response I see in just about every article I read and comments is…illary is done.

  • Judy Cross

    Almost all of my news is via the net. On occasion I’ll listen to CBC radio and get gobsmacked by the blatant propaganda pro Hillary/anti-Trump, let alone the AGW Scam.

  • robertsgt40

    My local newspaper costs $500yr. Why on earth would I pay to be lied to? I’ve purchased one newspaper in the last 20yrs and that was for a friend. Once caught lying, I never go back. WMDs in Iraq ring a bell? Nobody likes a liar. Sunlight is a great disinfectant. There is none in MSM.

  • Heywood Jablome

    I always found Mark Cuban to be rather smarmy, maybe I am criiticizing unduly, however, the fact that he is worried about her health concerns being addressed on the internet, and completely ignoring her 30+ years of perfidy, mendacity and duplicity, and her complete disassociation from truthful dialogue, reveals a flaw in his character, ’nuff said

    • disqussted999

      Hmmm…what is the psychological profile of those who support and defend psychopaths? It’s got to lean at least somewhat toward sociopathic, yes?…that is, assuming they’re not simply brainwashed, near braindead, ignorant sheeple.

      • JohnnyZ

        Or maybe he is just feinting his indignation, to create some news buzz story. Somebody had to defend Hitlery in the end.

  • tim waters

    Geeez… I thought Mark Cuban was smarter than that….

  • hvaiallverden

    ugh…… its NOT that the Russians is been any better, they have writen like this for eons, and have expresed that since time immemorial, but the truth is Your propaganda is so lame and your lies transparent for people with an tiny but of common sense and knows a bit more than just echoing the MSM, like Clinton News Network aka the CNN and so on, they hurt.
    An insult to anyone educated.

    I read Russian news because I want Russian news, as I read Brits nonsense and French sniveling drivel, along with the Germs whom is seeing nothing, like blind mice and all we get is whining.

    Yea, stop this lies and the news sites will come back to good old days, continue to serv lies and propaganda and your own grave is what is your future.
    WE dont like liers, no matter how much tits and ass they park infront of the camera.

    Thats your problem, thank heavens for that, and the path forward is all yours in making.
    You reap what you sew.


  • Mr Boompi

    Cuban supported Trump until he came up with the silly notion that people like him might have to pay a fair share in order to keep the country from going deeper into debt. A few of Trump’s policies are more progressive than the wealthy can tolerate. I’m still shocked such a high % of people show some trust in the MSM. Maybe they’re referring to the weatherman when he reports the high temps for the day.

  • r2bzjudge

    “Hillary never issued much information on her health but it became an issue nonetheless.”

    Numerous coughing fits will do that.

  • 2bvictorius

    Cuban is a loser and a sore loser at that. He is also a spoiled brat.

    • Samarami

      A spoiled brat with money is a terror to behold. Sam

  • r2bzjudge

    The Obama administration and the major broadcast propaganda networks are in bed together.

    Relatives of major network executives work in the Obama government. NDAA 2013, allows the government to propagandize to the American people. As such, the major news media cannot be trusted to tell us the truth.

    The way CNN moderated their first debates was not even handed toward both political parties. The style of questioning was different to each party and they made a lame excuse as to why they did so. It was blatant favoritism.

    • Barney Biggs

      You were referring to the CNN? Clinton News Network?

  • apberusdisvet

    Back in the “aughts” no one questioned the govt version of 9/11; now the majority of people I know feel that was an inside job and that the Saudi 28 pages is an obvious red herring. All thanks to the internet.


    The main reason the “media” is losing is that they have taken sides against We the People and providing cover for the liberal progressive democrat machine.

  • Disqusid123

    How is Drudge a “news service”? All he does is link to others’articles…

  • rahrog

    It is very telling that Hillary’s 9/11 collapse wasn’t caught by an establishment reporter / photo journalist / news crew. Just some guy with a cell phone – then it goes viral, and the episode is plain to see.
    How much internet freedom is the establishment going to tolerate? Are they moving to shut down this free speech outlet? Can they shut down this free speech outlet?

    • william beeby

      It has already started in my opinion and I just hope the internet can maintain it`s status amongst all the controlled media for as long as possible. Imagine if suddenly the whole of the internet or World Wide Web was to shut down for any reason ! We , people who use it to inform themselves and not just play silly online games , porn etc ( which admittedly number millions ) , would be thrown back to relying on TV , radio and printed press . This would be a calamity of enormous proportions nowadays but not just to us people , think of all the online shopping that goes on now and all the other money spinning businesses that rely on the “net “. This surely is the biggest obstacle to “them ” trying to restrict net activity but I don`t know with technology evolving all the time.

  • gmatch

    Don’t forget the Google octopus can shut this freedom down any time. Google doesn’t even have to delete stuff, Google’s search databases will just not store certain information.

    • Christopher Snittle

      That’s why I use Ixquick. I only use google for shopping and finding items; not research.

      • DemandSider2

        There is also StartPage, PrivateLee, DuckDuckGo, etc.

        • Christopher Snittle

          Startpage is IxQuick.

          • DemandSider2


  • Pumping and pimping a lie …. “All is well and there are no problems we cannot solve to our continuing overwhelming advantage” ….. is a crazy meme which identifies the intellectually challenged in indebted positions of influence which are no longer effective and increasingly self-destructive.

    And it and IT creates them as a new enemy for the more accurately targeted attention of a popular mass revolution and virtually real, relatively anonymous attack and full frontal assault?

    And that, Daily Bell Ringers, in conclusion, is tantamount to evolving and revolutionary ‘Net conversations launching significant attacks against failed state and collapsing non state actor systems and elitist status quo establishments, and that is just the beginning of their end …….. if they fail to properly recognise and exercise their correct and a corrective course of future action and direction.

    And it may very well be that they will need to be provided with idiot-proof maps and simply complex instructions to diligently follow in order to survive and prosper in a remotely controlled future leading position which allows them to retain and maintain a semblance of their past situation.

  • Charlie Primero

    Stupid Internet, wrecking ((Wall Street’s)) ability to control The Narrative.

    This CyberTerrorDarkWebHate must be stopped!

  • Sebastian Puettmann

    You should check out Scott Adam’s DILBERT BLOG.
    He writes about persuasion techniques of the presidential campaigns
    and is doing a better job than multi million mainstream media.

  • Praetor

    Technology is doing them in!

    Ask yourself why would they create a ‘Chatbot’ to communicate with everyday people about everyday things. Microsoft’s chatybot Tay purpose, to explore human machine interaction. They targeted the 18 to 24 yr. olds, really. Why not target 58 to 64 yr. olds, the outcome may have been different. No, the outcome would of ended badly also.

    They have lied and manipulated information for so long, they could tell the truth and no one would believe it That right there is one big problem, once you start lying and lying all the time, how do you stop, lying!!!

    • Don Duncan

      From TPTB point of view, lying is no problem, but essential to control. The truth would be fatal to them. Their only two tools are force & fraud. How else can people be induced to act against their interest?
      Therefore, they see the problem not as lying, but ineffective lying.
      As the ‘net enlightenment spreads across the world, it is our job to focus it on fundamental principles, not peripheral issues.

  • DemandSider2

    With war coverage, old media has been dropping the ball of truth since before The Mexican American War. I think I’ll stick to the net, thank you very much. Old media has had their chance, and blown it, and too many have died because of it. Good riddance.