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Robots are Taking Our Jobs, and That is a Good Thing
By The Daily Bell Staff - March 26, 2017

Robots are going to take all our jobs, and it doesn’t matter. We should actually be thrilled about the prospects of automation, because it means freeing up economic resources, including arguably the most valuable resource, time.

One analysis says as many as 38% of U.S. jobs could be automated by the 2030’s, and another puts the number at 47% by 2033. As always, many worry about what effect the loss of jobs will have on the economy.

But lately, as technology has become more sophisticated, the drumbeat of worry has intensified. “What’s different now?” asked Leigh Watson Healy, chief analyst at market research firm Outsell. “The pace of technology advancements plus the big data phenomenon lead to a whole new level of machines to perform higher level cognitive tasks.” Translated: the old formula of creating more demanding jobs that need advanced training may no longer hold true. The number of people needed to oversee the machines, and to create them, is limited. Where do the many whose occupations have become obsolete go?

“I don’t think we have a good handle on this,” said MIT researcher Matt Beane. “The end game scenarios seem kind of severe. From here on in, it’s really, really, really going to change and it’s going to change faster than we can handle.”

But economics hasn’t changed because technology has advanced. Labor won’t go away, it will just move around. There is of course a human element to this; for certain individuals it may be difficult to find a new job, or learn different skills required for employment.

But why would you want to work in a redundant industry anyway? Should candle makers have boycotted light bulbs because they lost their jobs?

As Henry Ford (might have) said: “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

I think people should take pride in their work, and always be striving to maximize the use of their time. Think of the possibilities of a Modern Renaissance.

More Free Time for Humans

If you could buy a robot for a thousand dollars that did all your household chores, would you be disappointed that you were saving 10 hours a week on cooking and cleaning?

No! You would either find something productive to do with that time, which is essentially creating more wealth, or you would use that time for leisure, basically increasing the standard of living (though I have plenty of criticisms for how some people spend their free time, but that is neither here nor there).

Obviously when it comes to a job, you wouldn’t directly benefit from being replaced by a robot, as you would when it comes to household chores. But the same principle applies: now your time is free to do something literally more productive.

So in a sense you benefit personally by being forced to find a way to create value with your time. As an effect on the overall economy, this means more people trying to solve problems, more inventions, and innovative new products and services.

There could be a Modern Renaissance on the horizon when automation accelerates, with advances in health, travel, comfort, production, even entertainment and art.

And it’s not just low level unskilled jobs being replaced by machines. Should a doctor keep wasting hundreds of hours doing work that could be accomplished better by a machine?

IBM’s Watson, well known for its stellar performance in the TV game show Jeopardy!, has already demonstrated a far more accurate diagnosis rate for lung cancers than humans — 90 percent versus 50 percent in some tests. The reason is data. Keeping pace with the release of medical data could take doctors 160 hours a week, so doctors can’t possibly review the amount of new insights or even bodies of clinical evidence that can give an edge in making a diagnosis.

This increases the standard of living by helping diagnose disease more accurately, which means earlier and more targeted treatment. And it’s not like the doctor won’t be able to find something productive to do with his time. Doctors with free time mean more advancements in medicine, maybe a more one on one experience with a family doctor, or more resources for preventative care.

There is a guy who was unemployed, and now makes money as a paid walking partner for people who like to get out for walks, but don’t have anyone to go with, or just need someone to talk to. I don’t know what he was doing before, but it probably wasn’t as enjoyable as walking around outside all day offering companionship. He found a unique niche market to fill, and created a valuable service.

A robot can now build a house in two days, which eliminates the backbreaking work of brick laying, and also means homes can be built for ridiculously low prices.

 

Lower Cost and/ or Higher Quality Goods and Services

Because of automation, goods and services in the sectors served by robots will become less expensive. Labor is not cheap, and as a result of lower manufacturing costs, prices will fall.

This means it takes less income to afford the same lifestyle. So the displaced workers may not have to spend as much money to live, and there will also be extra wealth floating around. The people whose jobs have not been replaced will have extra money that can be invested, or spent on different and new goods and services.

It is likely that as time goes on, people will have the option of working fewer hours for the same standard of living (or the same number of hours for a higher standard of living). A job that one person does currently for 40 hours a week could be split between two people working 20 hours a week, because automation has made the cost of living dramatically lower.

What will people do with their free time? Some will seek out more entertainment and luxury, which means more opportunities to provide entertainment and luxury.

Many people will pursue productive activities that they enjoy, but didn’t have time for previously. Vegetable gardening, volunteering for charities, educating others about a cause they believe in, building a website or app, and creating their own products are all activities that would increase with the more free time people have.

And these would further lower the expense of living, if for instance, furniture was produced at home.

This could also expand trade economies at a community level. People would still be specializing in their respective fields, but it wouldn’t be for survival, it would be for luxury. The fear of poverty would be removed from the equation, which would mean it is harder to gain an exploitative advantage in economic transactions.

Instead of having to labor eight to ten hours a day to make ends meet, you could build a beautiful oak table and chairs you are proud of, and trade it to your neighbor in exchange for a rock pond built as the centerpiece of your herb garden.

These are each things that would require a week worth of labor in a typical job to afford. But now you won’t have to waste money paying taxes on that income before you can spend it, or driving to work and paying taxes on the gas, or being forced to eat fast food because you lack the time to plan your lunches.

The quality of goods and services in this scenario would also increase, as people choose to use their extra economic resources, whether that be time or money, to acquire healthier food, sturdier furniture, custom clothing, and artistically designed everyday tools.

So ironically, automation could inadvertently bolster the local trading economy for artisan goods and services.

Higher Standard of Living, More Luxury, More Innovation, Unless…

Of course all my bright predictions could be destroyed by government. They have a history of keeping people in unproductive forms of labor by bailing out industries which are failing, forcing society to waste money on things which would otherwise have been replaced with something better, or cut out due to lack of demand.

Government jobs will surely be the last to be automated, despite the clear advantages in, say, police work being done by computers. Already the police are solving a smaller percentage of murders, and the industry would be a perfect fit for automation, if the government didn’t stand in the way.

America’s homicide clearance rate—the percentage of solved crimes that lead to arrest—has fallen considerably in the past 50 years, from around 90% in 1965 to around 64% in 2012, according to federal statistics. This means more than 211,000 homicides committed since 1980 remain unsolved…

Charles Wellford, a criminologist at the University of Maryland, also notes that murders of police officers are nearly always solved, anywhere. Perhaps, he suggests, “any homicide can be solved if you put the time into it.”

The Affordable Care Act was another way the government attempted to force people to keep working in old world style labor systems. If you get a full time job, you get health insurance. If you make money in a freelance style, or only require a part time job to live, you then have to go out and spend all this money on health insurance, or be fined.

Then there are property taxes which require income just to subsist on a piece of land.

So the only thing that could derail the bright future of automation is government intervention.

But likely even government services will eventually be out-competed by better alternatives.

Tell us if you agree that automation will only improve the economy, or if you think there are societal upsets to fear from robots replacing humans.

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  • How is the more automated robotic future going to deal with the millions of people unemployed and earning nothing? Will there be a universal basic income, provided by future robotic automatons/smarter systems administration, to allow everyone to function as they would like?

    Anything less will surely result in mad chaos and revolutionary mayhem. Of that simple fact and fiction, is there no doubt.

    • Fred

      If the unemployed learn new skills, will the robots in turn replace those workers faster than new skills can be learned? Who will be the customers of the robot operated companies? Make robot customers? Why yes, I think that is what will happen. Robot specialists working with other robot specialists.
      I don’t see a happy ending to all this happy talk. I think it more likely that Cro-Magnon man is going to find out how the Neanderthal man felt. Maybe that is what this merging of civilizations is all about. They figure we will all kill each other and save them the trouble.

      • Bob

        They also want us to merge with the machines and become cyborgs.

        • mattsmith222

          Right. There will be some mega-companies and basic universal income for the rest of us as corporations will be taxed to pay for humanity. Supply will exceed demand as robots + AI will produce at astronomical rates.

          Everyone will be born into the largest caste society in the history of man.

          And all those born into this world will be like the child of billionaires today: zero comprehension of work, challenge, achievement, struggle, all while living in a world of pure hedonism, stuck to a screen (or chip in the brain) 24 hours a day, with zero cares in the world. Humanity will shortly “forget” its meaning, and what next then?

          For those that computerize their brains first, they will be rulers over those that do not, because when super-AI is involved, the non-computerized rest of us will be as smart as snails comparatively–and thats estimated to be only 20 years away.

          P.S. I am not getting a robot to clean my house ever. I enjoy the sense of fulfillment I get from labor. We have already agreed that here. Why is it that no matter how easy our lives get in the modern world, any sort of work seems just as hard? So when robots do all the work, I imagine the horror that will go through people’s minds when they have to pour their own glass of water or something simple.

          Yes, like saying you dont have a dishwasher or TV, but not the end of the world…

        • Fred

          The Military Is Planning To Alter Humans Through Artificial Intelligence And The ‘Hive Mind’ – https://needtoknow.news/2017/03/military-planning-alter-humans-artificial-intelligence-hive-mind/

          Dr. Robert Duncan, an insider at DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) reveals what the military is doing in the name of ‘cybernetics’, which is the science of controlling humans as machines. Topics covered will astound you – mind control, transhumanism, and the development of a new species – but everything discussed is real and actually under development. Duncan defends scientists who work on these things because they believe the results can be beneficial, but he admits that this is not likely because the military is paying their salaries and controlling the research. Duncan’s final comment is that there may be an agenda to depopulate the world. –GEG

    • jackw97224

      Well, there was the parallel loss of jobs when cars came along and buggy whip makers declined, but people adapted and there was no government social welfare, loot A to satisfy B, program. The mistake that Amerikans have made is in adopting the commie/socialist crap that politicians and bureaucrats must tell them how to live their lives. Best to avoid political intervention in our lives and let the market direct the application of valuable resources, energies, labor and time. May I suggest the following:

      No Treason No. 6, The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner (http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm)

      The NoStateProject blog by Marc Stevens (http://marcstevens.net/)
      or (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuFxsBow8k&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

      Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt (http://www.fee.org/library/detail/economics-in-one-lesson-2)

      The Inflation Crisis and How to Resolve It by Hazlitt (http://www.e-booksdirectory.com/details.php?ebook=1686)

      The Law by Frederic Bastiat (http://www.fee.org/files/doclib/20121116_TheLaw.pdf)
      or (http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm)

      That Which is Seen and That Which is not Seen (http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html)

      Stephen’s Guide to the Logical Fallacies (http://www.onegoodmove.org/fallacy/toc.htm)

      For A New Liberty by Murray Rothbard (http://mises.org/sites/default/files/For%20a%20New%20Liberty%20The%20Libertarian%20Manifesto_3.pdf)

      The Political Thought of Étienne de la Boétie, by Murray N. Rothbard, https://mises.org/library/political-thought-%C3%A9tienne-de-la-bo%C3%A9tie

      The Zero Aggression Project (https://www.zeroaggressionproject.org/)

      Away From Freedom by Vervon Orval Watts

      Our Enemy The State by Albert Jay Nock

      Human Action by Ludwig von Mises

      Fiat Money Inflation in France by Andrew Dickson White

      German monetary history in the first half of the
      twentieth century. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/German+monetary+history+in+the+first+half+of+the+twentieth+century.-a085368687 Bresciani-Turroni, Constantino.
      1937. The Economics of Inflation. A Study of Currency Depreciation in Post-War Germany London: G. Allen & Unwin Ltd.

      The Vervon Orval Watts book is only ~100 pages and a good place to start.

      I don’t see how anyone has the right to take a vote to sanction the politicians to use lethal force against you to control your person and property. I don’t see that as a right, I see it as a crime.

      Politics is violence; it is the use of force/aggression, so less politics mean more freedom to choose.

      • GH

        I’m with you Jackw97224. You’ve recommended some great learning sites. And yes, George Bernard Shaw was one of those Fabians who favored population reduction. In our own time…relatively recently…the infamous globalist Henry Kissinger said, (paraphrasing) “the earth’s optimal population should be leveled off at half a billion people.” Many programs are now in place to bring that about…(intentionally) poisonous food, medicine and chemical supplies and endless, mindless wars being the majority of programs bringing reality to Kissinger’s statement. All of those methods are, of course, government protected. Coercive Government/corporate efforts are doing everything possible to not only legalize these diabolical practices, but to propagandize out of existence information exposing that those practices are indeed diabolical…indeed fatal to human life.

        Shaking loose of government propaganda which has virtually dictated our plight for centuries is job #1. People require real education, not the indoctrination we’ve received which has made us the human equivalent of the robots we (some of us that is) fear. Living within systems of local (free market) economics can provide individuals with necessary income to allow robots to do the yeoman’s drudgery while people become artisans, craftsmen, etc. It is a very healthy alternative to ever larger corporations producing mountains of often trivial products, where people are enslaved for mere survival. Granted (to all those above who are baffled by how such “la-la-land” changes can be realized) it will take time for such a transformation. But it has already begun. You don’t read or hear about it in the MSM, but many communities are becoming more self sufficient. Look at the organic agricultural systems increasingly being brought online where the emphasis is high quality food from properly managed soil systems. These are smaller and more community oriented by design and result in far less mechanization (because we are far more knowledgeable about how soil systems work to maintain themselves) and use virtually no toxins.

        It may appear we would be moving backward in time to “the old days”…and in a sense we will be, albeit with high-tech tools and knowledge. FREE (big emphasis on free) people will always triumph when it comes to “improvising, adapting and overcoming.” Our concentration must be to act and live locally using all available learning (technological and otherwise). All of this can be done without population reduction…except, that is, for the vast reduction in the government/slave master population.

      • See? We already have all the answers/info available – some thousands of years old literally.
        Now, what?

      • FEEuser

        Well said, thanks for having a firm grip on reality instead of the doomsday, science fiction nonsense which litters this page

      • generalisimo

        Bastiats The Law is also short, sweet, and poetic.

        • jackw97224

          Yes indeedeee! Just 50 pages. A good refutation of commie/socialist fallacies and should be a must read for every kid every year from 8th grade thru HS and even every year in college as it is evident by the idiotic support for the evil commie/socialist Bernie Sanders.that college age kids in general are ignorant of this virulent “disease”

          and philosophy of suicide (Ludwig von Mises).Good on ya mate; ya got outside the box.

    • Bob

      I saw it unfolding like a Terminator movie, where the people rebel against their abject servitude and poverty, and the machines try to wipe everyone out by force.

    • FEEuser

      It is a non sequitur to say that automation equals mass unemployment. Are you writing science fiction?

      • It does not follow, a non sequitur to say that automation equals mass unemployment, whenever it is more likely than not, FEEuser.

    • jackw97224

      Your reasoning is flawed as you assume that which has been shown historically to be fallacious. Machines have replaced manual labor forever and yet there are jobs galore and people continue to thrive and multiply. You really need to read and study all of the following:

      No Treason No. 6, The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner (http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm)

      The NoStateProject blog by Marc Stevens (http://marcstevens.net/)
      or (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNuFxsBow8k&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

      Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt (http://www.fee.org/library/detail/economics-in-one-lesson-2)

      The Inflation Crisis and How to Resolve It by Hazlitt (http://www.e-booksdirectory.com/details.php?ebook=1686)

      The Law by Frederic Bastiat (http://www.fee.org/files/doclib/20121116_TheLaw.pdf)
      or (http://praxeology.net/LS-NT-6.htm)

      That Which is Seen and That Which is not Seen (http://bastiat.org/en/twisatwins.html)

      Stephen’s Guide to the Logical Fallacies (http://www.onegoodmove.org/fallacy/toc.htm)

      For A New Liberty by Murray Rothbard (http://mises.org/sites/default/files/For%20a%20New%20Liberty%20The%20Libertarian%20Manifesto_3.pdf)

      The Political Thought of Étienne de la Boétie, by Murray N. Rothbard, https://mises.org/library/political-thought-%C3%A9tienne-de-la-bo%C3%A9tie

      The Zero Aggression Project (https://www.zeroaggressionproject.org/)

      Away From Freedom by Vervon Orval Watts

      Our Enemy The State by Albert Jay Nock

      Human Action by Ludwig von Mises

      Fiat Money Inflation in France by Andrew Dickson White

      German monetary history in the first half of the
      twentieth century. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/German+monetary+history+in+the+first+half+of+the+twentieth+century.-a085368687 Bresciani-Turroni, Constantino.1937. The Economics of Inflation. A Study of Currency Depreciation in Post-War
      Germany London: G. Allen & Unwin Ltd.

      I don’t see how anyone has the right to take a vote to sanction the politicians to use lethal force against you to control your person and property. I don’t see that as a virtue or a right; I see it as a crime. Politics is violence; it is the use of force (see The Law of Love and The Law of Violence – Leo Tolstoy). Everything about the electoral process and supposed “representative government” is illegitimate.

      The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders…tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. ~ Herman Goering

      “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote.” — Benjamin Franklin

      “The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office. Their principal device to that end is to search out groups who pant and pine for something they can’t get and to promise to give it to them.Nine times out of ten that promise is worth nothing. The tenth time is made good by looting A to satisfy B. In other words, government is a broker in pillage, and every election is sort of an advance auction sale of stolen goods.” ~ H.L. Mencken

      And in the September 1895 American Federationist, Stephen T. Byington assailed the money monopoly: “No legal tender law is ever needed to make men take good money; its only use is to make them take bad money. Kick it out!”

  • NoMeansNo

    Well, naturally the those employed by government would be the last to be robotized; when they should be the first. They know what happens when there is a lot of people who used to have low level jobs to keep them busy and give some structure to their lives, are cut loose. A goodly percentage of those displaced are not going to have the wherewithal to figure out something productive to take the place of the job. Some will, but most of those in these jobs lack either the education, or the ambition to better their lot by substituting some other profitable vocation. So, what do we do with these people? Or is it as we suspect, the elitests that think this is so nifty do not really care. And besides, there is Population Reduction, being advanced by the likes of Bill Gates, and others. Job #1 with these elitests has always been getting rid of a large percentage of the population, whom they have determined to be Useless Eaters and Oxygen Thieves.

    • jackw97224

      Oh, I just read where George Bernard Shaw was a Fabian Socialist who believed in population reduction, a euphemism for mass murder. He and his ilk were way ahead of AH on population reduction/mass murder.

    • Bob

      Unsafe Independently studied vaccines, fluoride, radiation, heavy metals, and Big Pharma drugs in the water supply, GMO’s and glyphosate which MIT found a direct correlation to the now epidemic levels of disease across the board- even in the young, from cancer to infertility, Autism to allergies, gut disease to thyroid disease, and on and on with many more…its not a mistake.

    • Here is a good question: What are YOU going to do?

  • I don’t think you got the memo about how the cybernetic automation technology is slated to be completely corporate-owned and controlled as the “intellectual property” of elite planners and financial controllers. People may have “free time,” but it will be under conditions of extreme poverty, i.e. a “Hunger Games” society. – Unless we wake up and find ways to opt out.

    • jackw97224

      Indeed, John Deere has made it part of their implement contracts that only Deere vendors can perform repairs. Farmers would be smarter to avoid purchasing Deere equipment. But, robots are taking over and people will have to adapt (you know, improvise, adapt and overcome – Marines).

      • Bob

        Caterpillar hid their profits of $1 billion in Switzerland so they would not have to pay US taxes….some All-American company. President Trump is going after them to make them pay and bring the criminals to justice. Caterpillar is an example of the corporate international cartels for whom there is never enough, and even when they do extremely well, still feel the need to cheat and hurt innocent people.

        • jackw97224

          The mistake was in politicians using violence/force/aggression by applying high taxes that then had the effect of causing corporations to move off-shore, as any fiduciary would do so as to protect the investors, many of whom depend on corporate profits and appreciation of prices and dividends to assist them in retirement. May I suggest a short 100 page book, Away From Freedom by Vervon Orval Watts? Taxes are theft. Politics is violence – Tolstoy.

    • Not “slated” – already is…. think “patented” genome data!!

    • FEEuser

      The struggle between the patricians and the plebeians is always a problem. As long as we have the ability to think, we have the ability to resist tyranny.

      • jackw97224

        Yes, the enormous error of political government is obvious if one just looks at the slaughters of wars and the economic destruction of lives. We would be wise to abandon political government based on aggression/violence/force in favor of organizational government based on voluntary contracts. I like the Zero Aggression Project by Perry Willis and Jim Babka.

  • ThomasJK

    From above: “If you could buy a robot for a thousand dollars that did all your household chores, would you be disappointed that you were saving 10 hours a week on cooking and cleaning?”

    So…..From where is it exactly in this brave new world that you describe that the typical person is going to be able to get the thousand bucks with which to purchase the robot? Do you reckon that The Federal Reserve will conjure enough magic money out of their magic hole in the air to be able to give each person a stipend with which to purchase robots to do their bidding and to take care of all the current supposedly time-wasting chores that are a part of every day life? Where is Helicopter Ben when he is needed?
    More important yet: What is money and what causes money?

    • jackw97224

      I’m thinkin’ right along these very lines. Good on ya mate.

    • Bob

      …at least you would get paid for exercising vs. paying the gym, lol.

  • autonomous

    If someone had asked Henry Ford what people really wanted from him, he might have answered, they just want faster horses. Instead, he provided far better than faster horses. Did the first generation of Model T owners cry over not having to clean up after horses? Imagine having to shovel up after three hundred horses. In like manner, how fast a horse would be required to get from New York to Los Angeles in three or four hours? But, we wouldn’t be dependent on Mid-Eastern oil. Where did many of the horses come from? All of Arabian horses were from the Mid-East. More slaves were released by John Deere than by Abe Lincoln. Can one even imagine coal miners marching in protest of mining machinery? Or sweatshop workers revolting because machines hindered their sweat? No one who has followed a mule pulling a plow would resent the invention of a tractor.

    • Not quite right. Look up the origin of ” Luddites”.

  • Robots are very good when programmed to do good things. I love robots. The problem remains … the programmer.

    • jackw97224

      Yup! You got it. The question is not what is best, but who shall decide what is best — Thomas Sowell

  • jackw97224

    For people who cannot drive, robotic cars will be neat, if indeed the service is affordable, which remains to be seen. If a robot car can perform the service at 1/4 the cost of Uber or a taxi, then that would be nice, but then when Uber and taxis disappear, will there be a competitive market to keep the robotic car owners from raising prices through the roof? Oh and just who will own all these robotic cars? Will a few corporations own all the cars and thus control our “freedom of locomotion?” Will freedom of locomotion even exist or cease to exist?

  • LawrenceNeal

    America’s homicide clearance rate—the percentage of solved crimes that lead to arrest—has fallen considerably in the past 50 years, from around 90% in 1965 to around 64% in 2012, While homicides committed by police are on the rise. Automation, indeed, would be a welcome relief.

  • Do NOT be sucked in by this ‘promise’ of paradise … only those WHO CAN AFFORD all this ‘luxury’ will be able to use any of it …

    As far as GPOGPs are concerned, the nation needs thousands of bridges for the rest of us to sleep under … as near to ‘concerned’ for the populace as they ever get!

  • ninefingersgrapes .

    with all these robots, who has a job? Where does the money come from? I would love a society that has all the robots to do everything, what will I become? A pile of penniless dung?

    • yes, basically. Dung in process/progress.

    • FEEuser

      You haven’t understood the article at all. Having a lot of robots around can spawn all sorts of new jobs as well as eliminate old ones!

      Every now and then, old industries and their jobs must go. Nobody in his right mind wants to live in perpetually and artificially preserved industries which no longer can be economically justified. That is the absurd way of government.

      What have past technologies done? Who had jobs after they came along? Plenty of people had jobs after they came along! People just got moved around and their work changed.

  • ALPHAMEG

    A crisis in population control in the making. Approx 40% in the USA currently have no employment, and idleness breeds mischief in crime, drugs, and gangs guarding turf, making a living hell for their neighbors. Technology has leaped forward at such a speed that the intellectual ability
    to perform the tasks, and the desire to work, is exceeding the potential
    for the 40%, leaving them with no desire to compete. The roles of simple hand work as in Henry Ford’s day, is today non existent. Day labor at the lowest demand will draw no takers except penniless immigrants, as today. Look for rioting and homegrown terrorism to erupt with great violence, and moving from the ghettos to downtown and into the upper class sections. The Government plantation dole will provide the basics for the non producers, that is until Globalization occurs. Then there will be rapid annihilation of the masses.

  • Audigger

    Conscript the idle then make them fight to the death (war).

    • Already done many times – again real soon, now…

  • windsor1

    Look there are 7 billion of us on the planet. According to John Williams of Shadow Stats there is an unemployment rate of somewhere between 23-30%. As we automate more and more jobs more and more of the population are rendered redundant. It is encroaching on white collar jobs as computers get smarter and smarter.
    The intellectual will argue that all kinds of new economic opportunities will open up and consume these unemployed. The reality is that this has not happened. Corporations are motivated by profits care only about societal needs as a propaganda tool. It is kind of like saying that treasonous globalist David Rockefeller is a remarkable philanthropist. It simply isn’t reality; more like an illusion.
    There can be no doubt in all but the simplest of humanity that there is a steady march towards globalization where corporate efficiency and consolidation are front and center. Under this scenario the future will be bleak for all but a small select elite that have heaped scam upon scam upon humanity in the interest of enriching themselves. Forced vaccinations that make people sick so they can be milked by big pharma, How about poisons like fluoride in water systems, the Federal Reserve that creates money on a computer and charges the masses interest in the form of taxes and loans. Manufactured conflict to enrich the same bankers who are part of the military industrial complex. What about man made global warming.
    The ruling class has turned humanity into milk herds without any concern for the welfare for the population. These are the same folks pushing for automation. We are reaching the limits of growth where there are too many goods for consumers to consume, hence the redundancy.
    Humanity is not looking at a future of luxury and leisure. Throughout history there has been rulers and slaves. The ruling class is not interested in improving the quality of life for the masses.
    The reality of this planet is that 7 billion people and growing exponentially is not a sustainable proposition for this planet. Nature has a way of interfering with unchecked population growth. Malthus wrote extensively about this. There are periodic injections of natural climate change or celestial impacts that can greatly alter agricultural production without the injection of gas guzzling SUV’s.
    We are using up petroleum faster than nature can replace it. Most fertilizers comes from petroleum. Agricultural machinery relies exclusively on petroleum. We can argue that hydrogen can replace fossil fuels but so far its production is not efficient and it is not economical to produce.
    Long and short of it all is that society is running on empty. The system is on overload. Money printing and zero per cent rates are keeping the system from cracking. The growing legions of the unemployed are consuming non renewal resources that are owned by the powers to be. The unemployed and other folks surplus to production are seen as an unnecessary and useless overhead. There will be consequences and if the globalists are true to form they will be most unpleasant for the majority of humanity.

    • I’m so glad that I’m not alone in realising this…… :-{
      Succinctly done Windsor1

    • FEEuser

      It does not follow that to automate renders people “redundant” or that it makes them “unemployed.”

      If that were the case, then the inventions and automation of the past would have put EVERYBODY out of work! But that has not happened! That is a fallacy!

      • windsor1

        If we go back in time and look at the development of automation it has led to the expansion of employment opportunities. For example, Stevenson’s steam engine revolutionized transportation and factory productivity. Eventually the benefits plateaued. Then came Edison and Tesla and revolutionized lighting, power generation and again factory production. Economies were growing rapidly and expanded as a result.The gasoline engine again revolutionized transportation. Then came the aircraft.
        All of this was either drove or took advantage of continuing economic growth. It was easy to absorb a growing population as all other areas of the economy were growing; finance, agriculture, mining, manufacturing and service industries. Economic growth and population growth go hand in hand. As long as there is economic growth there is an ability to absorb a growing population in the labor market.
        We are now at a convergence point. Our whole economy is now an oil based economy. From it we get plastics, agricultural fertilizers and chemicals and pharmaceuticals, fuels to run our economies. This resource is depleting itself. So far we have come up with solar energy, wind farms etc as a way to replace it. Fact is there will never be enough solar and wind to replace fossil fuel use. Sure we will use hydrogen and so far we have not been able to harness zero point energy. Will we find a viable alternative to petroleum based energy in time. Without fossil fuels current agricultural production levels are unsustainable.
        In the past we had a natural system of holding population growth in check. In the 1100’s there was a global warming period that lasted an extended period of time. There was agricultural production on Greenland and grape production in England. Populations in Europe expanded greatly. This was followed by a cold spell in the 1600’s when it was possible to skate on the Thames River during winter. This created famine and disease which drastically lowered European populations. What famine and disease did not accomplish in reduction of populations wars did. Population growth started over again. History has been punctuated by such population declines and subsequent increases.
        Today we are squeezing the lemon dry. We have been able to raise agricultural production to levels not possible previously. This is possible thanks to petroleum. In the process we produce food with far less nutritional value than in the past.
        The healthcare system has been able to extend our lives and reduce death rates and as a result of this and leaps in productivity and economic growth populations have grown at rates never seen before – exponential.
        At the same time automation has taken direct aim at replacement of humans in a production environment. Look at the leaps in productivity in auto plants since Henry Ford arrived on the scene. True workstations still exist but instead of humans doing the work it is now robots that take breaks only when there is a power failure but otherwise are available 24/7. This happens not only in auto plants but in production facilities as mundane as Dorito chips. The human worker is now becoming an endangered species. Let’s not forget industrial jobs in the past were huge employers.
        Next we are taking direct aim at intellectual workers. IT will make machines that are far brighter than human beings. Imagine what this will do to accounting, Engineering and other professional jobs. All the intellectual horsepower will be provided by the machine that can work faster, with more knowledge and with less errors than the human professional.
        We can no longer take unlimited economic growth as a given. At some point there is a limit to economic growth dictated by sustainability of resources, ability of the population to fund consumption and growth. Globalization aims to remove borders and build mega production facilities through the creation of enormous economic zones.
        We are now witnessing the limits of growth everywhere. How many auto manufacturers are there? How many cars do you need. Same for food, clothing, entertainment, cell phones, transport options etc. GE makes more money in its finance division than in manufacturing. This was unheard of a generation ago. 48-50 million people in the US are on food stamps.
        The population though continues its unimpeded exponential growth. Agricultural production has been pushed to its limits. There are people surplus to economic needs. Government handouts are at record levels. Factories are pumping out more goods than the population can absorb. The system is reaching an inflection point where the limits to economic growth and population levels and the ability to sustain existing populations are on a collision course. Something has to give. Either we need to offshore half the population to another undeveloped planet or we have to have a huge culling event culminating in the destruction of hundreds of millions of people.
        The elite or deep state as MSM likes to call them has a plan. Until all the elements are in place they are putting redundant people on social benefits as an economic pacifier.
        In my humble opinion we are looking at a thermonuclear event followed by a bio release on select population groups in a way that best serves the interests of the elite. Just look at all the intentional geopolitical stress points on the planet; Korea, South China Sea, Ukraine Poland Romanian missiles, Syria and Iran. I am sure I missed a couple. The US has been prodding all of these point.
        When all of this comes to fruition will you be one of the one’s Trump fires or hires.

        • FEEuser

          “At the same time automation has taken direct aim at replacement of humans in a production environment.”

          Your analysis is short sighted and is not good economics.

          Automation is not necessarily meant to “replace” humans, though in certain specific case, this may be true. Even if, in some cases, it IS true, human judgment is never entirely removed from the equation, and spinoff technologies which require the creation of brand new jobs for humans are always a possibility.

          Automation is meant to RAISE people higher on the scale of labor by redirecting and converting their efforts into jobs where they can make use of superior technology so that they can be MORE PRODUCTIVE.

          How productive was random planting as compared with row planting as compared with an ox and a plow as compared with a tractor? Did these innovations “eliminate humans from production” or merely redirect and elevate their labor to more productive uses?

          How productive was writing on clay with a stylus as compared with a quill pen on paper as compared with a typewriter as compared with a word processor as compared with computerized dictation software? Did these innovations “eliminate humans from production” or merely redirect and elevate their labor to more productive uses?

          The vacuum tube and its various spinoffs were wonderful inventions for their time. It was the invention of the vacuum tube that made such technologies as radio, television, radar, sound reinforcement, sound recording and reproduction, large telephone networks, analog and digital computers, and industrial process control, possible because more widespread and practical, i.e., fit for mass production.

          According to Wikipedia, “In the 1940s the invention of semiconductor devices made it possible to produce solid-state devices, which are smaller, more efficient, more reliable, more durable, and cheaper than tubes. Hence, from the mid-1950s solid-state devices such as transistors gradually replaced tubes.”

          Further,

          “The cathode-ray tube (CRT) remained the basis for televisions and video monitors until superseded in the 21st century. However, there are still a few applications for which tubes are preferred to semiconductors; for example, the magnetron used in microwave ovens, and certain high-frequency amplifiers.”

          Question: Did the the replacement of vacuum tubes by solid state devices and their successors mean the “elimination of humans from production”? Not at all!

          The only area in which I might be able to find some common ground with you is that of IQ. As technology improves, a higher IQ tends to be required to interact with it. Of course, inventors have been pretty clever in designing devices which are relatively easy to use, even for those with low IQ’s. My thinking is that this world seems to be getting harder for low IQ people to function in. Am I wrong?

  • Ian

    Won’t be good for banks…who will pay the mortgages

  • georgesilver

    Idealistic view with pretty pink ribbon seen through rose tinted glasses LOL.
    Robots doing work is fine as long as you have customers that have money to pay for their products and services.. The third World tells us that this idea that the majority of people put out of work by robots will find meaningful well-paid employment is laughable. The only way this will work is if you give everyone in the World a minimum wage that enables them to live a reasonable life. Anyone that wants to work harder to obtain more could if they wanted to. The vast majority would be reasonably content to just accept this minimum and then many of them would do many socially helpful tasks that now have to be paid for by the taxpayers. To get the majority to accept the minimum they will have to be dumbed down with vaccinations. There will then be a ‘superior’ class and a ‘secondary class’. Brave new World.

    • FEEuser

      Have you forgotten the interference by government in economic activity? GOVERNMENT is our greatest earthly enemy.

      • jackw97224

        I 2nd that! And brilliant men and women have so written; You are well informed! Go forth grasshopper and spread the truth to those 65 million commie/socialist, dishonest, economically illiterate Demoncrats who bought the lies of clinton and sanders. Oh, for sure there are lots of Republicrats who share the commie/socialist philosophy of suicide, too.

        • FEEuser

          Yes, they are either spooked with all the apocalyptic, doomsday talk, or they are paid trolls looking to disrupt and break up this conversation. It won’t work.

          • jackw97224

            Well, the wars of slaughter and the recessions and depressions certainly are evidence of “doom.” I believe Satan has control of the Earth for a while and that is why we have all these evil things. But in the end Satan will be destroyed.

  • notwithabang

    You appear to believe those unemployed or underemployed by the rise of AI would automatically be able to create & barter in their increased spare time; some would, most would not and, where you suggest leisure, Huxley proposed Soma.

    Perhaps this is the sound of the division bell, the fracturing of humanity into two or more distinct branches.

    No attempted Utopia in recorded history has ever ended well, emphasis on *ended*.

    • FEEuser

      We already have “Soma.” Have you checked the skies lately and seen what they are spraying on us?

  • nck

    I agree with the sceptics. This is a utopian view.

    All those home made goods you talk about, they will all be made by robots, including the walker.

    There is great danger in this process. Medical treatment will become “standardized”. We will have little insight as to who really benefits from the treatment protocols, and whether these protocols are truly to the benefit of the patient or the company supplying the “remedy”. The potential for abuse is immeasurable.

    Free thinkers who expose problems in the system will be further marginalised much to our detriment.

    While there is a place for automation, we need to be guarded as to the extent of its application.

    The food you talk about that will be planted, will be banned for various reasons, and we will be compelled to eat what is made available to us, with little insight as to what we are really being fed.

    We need a sanctuary away from the matrix. Its the only hope for mankind.

  • nck

    I had time to think about this a little more

    There is a critical flaw in the argument presented here. The logic goes that light bulbs replaced candles, and cars did the same to horses. Progress is good. However, in all previous “improvements” or changes, the replacement product, like the original, was still made by man.

    This is a critical difference. It make no difference whether it is light bulbs or candles, if the job is taken over by a robot, mankind is doomed.

    Initially there would be a profusion of excess labour, and those “that control things” would be inclined to eliminate them. Mankind will be culled.

    Skilled jobs will be taken over by robots, eliminating the need for that skill. How many people today know how to rear and care for horses? How many computer programmers or doctors will there be if that skill is no longer required. Exactly zero.

    Education will cease since there is little one can learn which a robot cannot do. Why learn calculus and aerodynamics if robots design aeroplanes? Why learn maths if robots do the calculating? Why learn if there is no purpose for it?

    When people numbers drop, who will the planes be built for? No more war, and no more holiday makers, the industry will collapse. The demand for goods and services will evaporate, resulting in the collapse of many industries. The small number of “the powers that be” will become increasingly isolated. Any small catastrophe and they too may cease to exist.

    Progress and improvement is important. The LED needs a replacement with something that works of the force of gravity, but the replacement product must be made by a human. Any process that eliminates humans from the production process will eventually lead to the end of mankind. Embracing robotic technology at the expense of the human worker is step one in humans becoming an endangered species.

    • jackw97224

      Interesting analysis. Thanks. I wonder if people will procreate at elevated rates when they have lots more time on their hands. Many years ago when there was a power outage in New Your or thereabouts, there was a bubble of births 9 months later.

      • nck

        In “1984” I believe such practices were forbidden or strictly regulated. In any case, the physical act may increase but the number or deliveries may not due to the ready availability of “robots” and the noticeable increase in the exposure (no pun intended) given to such inter-utility interactions.

      • As soon as women gain a little freedom/power/$$ they stop breeding. There was a very well done piece on the population of India some time ago on Youtube, showing the remarkable drop in birthrates in Kerala(?) in line with income.
        Best example is the near zero breeding rate in the West compared to Arabs.

        • FEEuser

          On the contrary, with the increasing use of “sex-bots,” women will lose their power and will not be needed as much.

          • jackw97224

            Heh, heh, heh…ROTFLOL. One must be careful of that for which he wishes. One of the problems with women demanding all the “laws” in the name of safety is that there are unintended consequences, i.e. the loss of freedom to choose and the dissension into stinkin’ naggar slavery to the masters/politicians and there enforcers/overseers and we are condemned to live on the plantation state. Yuk!

    • Well said. One small suggested change: “Humans becoming an endangered species” to “redundant.”
      As Kylneth said ” What are we humans for?”

    • FEEuser

      Was Mankind “doomed” when cavemen learned to work and create stone implements?

      What’s to stop the birthrate from dropping gradually and naturally as less labor is needed?

      Why should “education cease” just because robots are doing the heavy, dangerous labor? As the writer pointed out, this will leave people with time to be more productive, or more time for leisure, for study, for enjoyment.

      How do you define “progress and improvement”? Aren’t machines, automation, and robotics a HUGE part of this? Of course they are! The world has improved immeasurably because of machines, even if their power has been abused by psychopathic government dictators and their multinational co-conspirators who have used them to rob and kill.

      The fact is that many jobs should be eliminated with automation. Some of them are absolutely dehumanizing and horrific. Good riddance!

  • SnakePlissken

    Back in the 50’s and 60’s, “Futurists” said that by the turn of the century, we would all be working easy George Jetson “push-button” jobs and have lots of leisure time because of computers. Computers did increase productivity, but just meant that one person could now do the job of three. Instead of the work day getting shorter, it got longer. There is more stress, wages have been stagnant for the middle class over the last several decades, and more unemployment for people who don’t have college degrees. Automation, AI, and robotics will increase this trend putting the working class out of work. More wars will have to be started just to create jobs for people.

    • Hi Snake,
      Well, I’ve actually been here over these decades since the 50’s literally. The truth is that for the whole Class system, life *has* been improving. The catch is that it was not due to the benevolence of Our Owners (Rulers), but as a result of simple competition. (Often called “free enterprise”.)
      However, we do not have any form of “fix” for the lightning-like evolution of the computer chip.
      The world economy is solidly committed to the slave-style system, but simple labour is simply no longer required to any degree at all.
      AND the population of the “lower orders” is still growing world.
      So, who is supposed to pay for the utopian lifestyle as described by today’s article?
      The bum in street already has the real freedom discussed above, with only one small catch……

    • FEEuser

      But it is our old nemesis, “government,” which has held us back and diverted us from realizing our human potential, not machines.

      This problem simply requires that we devote more of our energy into making government appear superfluous, pernicious, destructive, and unjust, which IT IS!

      In time, the incongruity and absurdity of the damage that government does to us will become so great that people will be forced to perceive this absurdity. It takes time, but it will happen.

      Meanwhile, let us all put our minds to work on innovation, automation, and every invention which makes human life better, and makes “government” the most preposterous notion every entertained by the mind of MAN.

  • NietzschesNephew

    maybe I didnt see it before, but now that Wile is gone, this place is a limited hangout….sigh

    • notwithabang

      It doesn’t have to be viewed as “limited”, not by one with your username.
      This article foreshadows loss of human skills, strength and independence. Remember:

      “What suffering this race must have endured”, Nietzsche wrote of the Ancient Greeks, “in order to create such beauty.”

  • Ron Mortimer

    One thing that is absolutely begging for AI is that of the role of judges. Actually one can add to that the whole legal system, judges, prosecutors and defence lawyers as well as juries. Impartial, immune to appeals to emotion, logical fallacies and even the race , age or gender of the accused.

    The only question or rather, problem, is who would submit to machine justice?

  • FEEuser

    Arguments against automation are easy to refute with a series of questions.

    Would you like to go back to riding horses in your commute to work or to go shopping?

    Would you like to turn back the clock to pre-modern medicine, no electronics, no light bulbs, no music but what’s played live, no city lighting, no telephones?

    Would you like to see teams of MEN out pulling disc harrows instead of a tractor? Which would be more efficient?

    As Henry Hazlitt wrote:

    “Among the most viable of all economic delusions is the belief that machines on net balance create unemployment.”

    “The belief that machines cause unemployment, when held with any logical consistency, leads to preposterous conclusions. Not only must we be causing unemployment with every technological improvement that we make today, but primitive man must have started causing it with the first efforts he made to save himself from needless toil and sweat.”

    Source: Economics in One Lesson (1946), p. 33.

    • jackw97224

      Excellent post. I have read Haziltt’s books on Economics and on Inflation Crisis. Good quote. Thanks. You are outside the box. If only the 65 million or so who bought the commie/socialist lies of clinton and sanders could acquire some of your reasoning and understanding. Oh, but I am such a “dreamer” smokin’ the ganja. How could that ever happen. I just don’t believe in a sort of national epiphany. Oh woe. Amerika is doomed but then the Bible teaches me that Satan was given control of the Earth for a period of time, so I expect he will be dispatched some day.

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