Thiel Wants to Return to Mid-20th Century Government Glory, But What If It Never Existed?
By Daily Bell Staff - July 28, 2016

Peter Thiel’s Conservative Case for Big Government … At the Republican convention in Cleveland, billionaire investor and entrepreneur Peter Thiel introduced … new ideas to his conservative audience … Thiel talked about the importance of public goods. He praised the big government projects of the mid-20th century, and lamented the fact that these seem to be a thing of the past.- Bloomberg

This speech from Thiel attracted a lot of attention, partially because Thiel is a very important technology entrepreneur.

Thiel was a co-founder of PayPal and the first outside investor in Facebook.

Ironically, Thiel is a self-proclaimed libertarian but a controversial one.

His speech shows why.

Curiously, it emphasized the need for government efficiency rather than private sector success.

When I moved to Cleveland, defense research was laying the foundations for the internet. The Apollo program was just about to put a man on the moon–and it was Neil Armstrong, from right here in Ohio. The future felt limitless.

But today our government is broken. Our nuclear bases still use floppy disks. Our newest fighter jets can’t even fly in the rain. And it would be kind to say the government’s software works poorly, because much of the time it doesn’t even work at all.

That is a staggering decline for the country that completed the Manhattan project. We don’t accept such incompetence in Silicon Valley, and we must not accept it from our government.

It is probably true that the US would function better with a more efficient government.

But it is hard to imagine how government can be made more efficient.

The government Thiel is talking about is the one that emerged after World War II.

Government seemed more efficient then, perhaps, because the US itself was so powerful.

After the war, the US was generating a huge percentage of almost everything.

Most industrial countries had little in the way of functioning economies after the war. The US bestrode the world.

But there is another reason why Thiel’s idea of more efficient – and potentially bigger – government is questionable.

That’s because government lies.

We’ve presented evidence that the US government lied about its nuclear program regarding Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Bikini Island.

The nuclear devices may not have done what was claimed. In the case of Bikini, they may not even have been used. See HERE and HERE.

And then there is NASA. The NATO/NASA mythology lies at the heart of American government competence.

But there are questions about NASA HERE just as there are questions about the US’s nuclear program.

For instance, NASA “lost” its original moon tapes HERE supposedly because preserving historical items was not a “priority.”

This is an absolutely ludicrous explanation.

Isn’t it possible that NASA “lost” the tapes – and then found them again HERE – because at least some of the tapes showed evidence of fakery?

Even granting that NASA went to the moon – as of course we should – it is very obvious that some of what NASA has released to the public is not legitimate. See HERE and HERE.

The same goes for the US’s nuclear program. Grant the nuclear program does at least some of what it is supposed to do, why then is there seemingly obvious evidence of fakery?

Conclusion: Thiel wants to return the US to its glory days of the mid 1950s. But what if those glory days are based on a false narrative? What if the US government was lying about its accomplishments? Is that possible? Does the US government, and especially the Pentagon, lie? What if the US government never worked so well in the first place? What if there is nothing to return to?

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  • robertsgt40

    To have a chance, the US would have to go back to early 20th century. Specifically 1913. This culminated in the creation of the Federal Reserve and a debt based monetary system. Once the parasitic virus was injected, the clock started for US demise. The Fed’s real goal was to transfer the nation’s wealth into the hands of the privileged few. Mission accomplished. The result? 300M debt slaves.

    • Don Duncan

      “The Fed’s real goal…”? The government’s real goal is to transfer (steal) wealth. The Fed, like taxes and eminent domain, is just another tool it uses.
      “To have a chance…” the people need to put an end to govt. by replacement with a new paradigm of voluntarism.

      • robertsgt40

        Good luck with that.

        • Don Duncan

          “Luck” has nothing to do with it. This will take an awakening of 10-15%. The zombie, brainwashed masses will follow.
          Someday, maybe we will see a political literacy of +90%, as was the case in the late 1700s. But will take a return to private schools or home schooling.

  • Praetor

    Conclusion. Government is the problem and not a solution.

    Individual freedom is what creates progress and a liberated individual will create innovation to solve their problem which then solves a societal problem.

    Electricity solved the darkness problem after the sun went down, now we are less concerned with the problems that came with the darkness. This was done by a free individuals and is progress.

    The Government took the innovation and now uses it to suppress individual freedom, which is regressive. We are now at the point where government takes all innovation and uses it to suppress the individuals.

    Thiel, if you want to make government efficient, it most be reduced by no less than 80%, then you will have what you want!!!

    • Good point.

    • Don Duncan

      No, reducing the problem (cancer) by 80% is not efficient. It will just grow back. Replacement with a new paradigm of voluntarism is “efficient”.

  • dsaulw

    The U.S. government does seem to be getting more inefficient and corrupt over time, though there can be no doubt that many of its “successes” from earlier eras were nothing of the sort. And that these phony successes are leveraged to the hilt as justification for further spending and encroachment.
    Here is a good example of the fraud that is the government’s supposed victory over polio via vaccines. Needless to say, it has milked this myth endlessly to serve as cover for its crimes known as the vaccine program.


  • tgmolitor

    >He praised the big government projects of the mid-20th century, and
    lamented the fact that these seem to be a thing of the past.- Bloomberg<

    The big government projects today reside in the Pentagon.

  • Pilgrim

    Banksters wanted a monopoly on the creation of currency. A few well-placed campaign contributions and they got their wish in 1913, the federal reserve bank was born.
    J.D. Rockefeller wanted to eliminate alcohol as a competitor to oil-derived fuels.
    He lobbied congress and had prohibition passed. Even got an agency to enforce it. The ATF was born.
    Lammont Dupont wanted hemp eliminated as a competitor to inferior synthetic fabrics. Again, he got his wish (ok, he paid for it) and the DEA was born.
    Government has become a general store for big campaign donors, creating dozens upon dozens of regulatory agencies, each with their unique speciality to whack whatever moles interfere with the insider good-ole-boy pay-to-play system.
    Internationally sanctions are imposed on nations that refuse to stay on the reservation. Leaders of sovereign nations are deep-sixed as we’ve seen in Libya.

    No, Mr. Thiel, we don’t need government “efficiency” . . . we need government morality and accountability. We need to put the genie of big-government back in the lamp of enumerated constitutional parameters.