Why We Really Don’t Know What the World is Like
By Joe Jarvis - April 20, 2017

If you lived in North Korea, you might think your government had attacked a U.S. aircraft carrier which was approaching the country. You would probably think North Korea had the capabilities to hold their own against the U.S. including “super mighty” preemptive nuclear strikes which could hit mainland USA.

But we live in America, so we believe that North Korea is a backward communist country where the people are oppressed by their government and starving in the streets. Their leader is an insane dictator who talks a big game while the country sits on the brink of collapse.

And this might be close to the truth. We don’t really know though because all of our information about North Korea is imparted to us from the media and our corrupt government which controls them. In that sense, what we know about the world is not so different from what North Koreans know about the world. It is really just a matter of degree.

Here is how news is reported to make us feel superior and safe against North Korea (but not so safe that our government couldn’t have a nice excuse for another war.)

Reclusive North Korea regularly threatens to destroy Japan, South Korea and the United States and has shown no let-up in its belligerence after a failed missile test on Sunday, a day after putting on a huge display of missiles at a parade in Pyongyang…

The North has said it has developed a missile that can strike the mainland United States, but officials and experts believe it is some time away from mastering the necessary technology, including miniaturising a nuclear warhead.

When you think about it, I really don’t honestly know if North Korea is as poor or oppressive as we are told. I have seen the few documentaries which came out of North Korea, and I have seen Hollywood fiction, and I am not confident in my abilities to truly tell the two apart.

I have seen the pathetically low budget videos that North Korea supposedly shows their people in order to convince them of their military superiority to the USA. But again how could I really tell if these are authentic or fabrications by our own government?

There is a war of propaganda, and it is tough to tweeze the truth from the lies. I do actually believe North Korea is an oppressive regime and their people are starving, but how do I really know the degree of propaganda that has skewed my image of the rest of the world?

I could conceive of a world in which the USA has vastly more control over the media than we even understand, to the point where our entire vision of the world is skewed. In fact, I did conceive of this type of world and wrote a novella about it.

In Flight Grounded, the protagonist gets first-hand experience about what methods the U.S. government uses to control the minds of their people. Like North Koreans, Americans’ vision of the world is massively manipulated to make them support the regime in control. So intense is the mind control and propaganda, that people mistakenly believe America is the freest and most prosperous country on earth when in reality it is on the bottom of the list of economic superpowers.

Could that be the truth? Could America’s regime actually be the joke of the world, with Donald Trump looking as ridiculous to foreigners as Kim Jung-Un looks to us?

What if we didn’t really bomb Afghanistan with the mother of all bombs, and what if we didn’t really hit Syria with rockets? Could we be fed lies from our very own Kim Jung-Un in Donald Trump? Could his failed tests be reported as real strikes?

Of course, this all could be the case. We really don’t know. And while I still believe it is possible in the United States to get a pretty informed vision of the world, it is a helpful reminder that things are certainly not exactly how we perceive them, and events are possibly far different than they are presented.


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  • FreeOregon

    After multi-year debacles in Afghanistan and Iraq, why wouldn’t the North Koreans believe they can hold their own against the US Military.

    The North Koreans are fortified just as were the Swiss facing Hitler’s hordes. Hitler decided not to fight in the Swiss mountains. Of course Hitler and his General Staff may have been smarter than our leaders. If mountain bunkers are vulnerable, why did the CIA build them in Afghanistan for al-Queda?

    • Tom

      The real reason Germany was demonized and destroyed was because they established a economic system based on labor that took them from being one of the poorest countries in Europe to one of the strongest and were not beholding to the Rothschild banking cartel.

      The so-called “Good War” was not a metaphysical good-versus-evil battle. It was a power struggle between empires. The British ruled the most powerful empire of the first half of the twentieth century, and they orchestrated World War I in an effort to pre-empt the rise of the number two power, Germany.”

      “The NSDAP waged a defensive war against Marxists intent on destroying Germany and Europe as we see today with third world weaponized refugees. Hitler’s war was on the banker”s NWO and parasites trying to destroy non white nations. His sin was resisting Judaism.”

      Hitler didn’t have hordes…but the Russian jewish Bolsheviks did. Germany’s only crime was throwing out the Central Bank. He didn’t invade Poland, he tried to stop the genocide of German people, by the jewish Polish Gov before the war. Germany was fighting against communism and the Central Bank…
      and America fought on the wrong side.

      As a thank you to Germany for reinstating Poland as a Suvereign Kingdom in 1916 (freeing Poland which was a Russian province at the time) the Polish Judeobolsheviks answered like this. Concentration-camps in Poland

      Right after the Versailles peace-treaty and the re-instatement of Poland as country (by Germany) during the war the following concentration-camps (for Germans) was erected by the new Polish Government: Szcypiorno, in the Posen area, erected 1918 Stralkowo, also in the Posen area , erected 1919

      In these camps about 16.000 Germans were imprisoned. These two camps were the First Concentration-camps in Europe.
      From 1920 to 1939 more than a million Germans were forced to leave Poland, in many cases a hasty escape from abuse.
      During the Pilsudski era further concentration-camps for Germans and Ukrainians, but also for political enemies and Polish opposition were erected in Poland :Bereza Kartuska (Galizien), erected 1926 Brest Litowsk, also erected 1926.

      In the time from March to September 1939, this being before the beginning of the second World War (1/9-1939) more than 50.000 Germans were imprisoned and subject to severe maltreatment.
      The European People saw what was being done to the Christian Ukranian/Russian People by the Jews, even though Americans never pay attention to what is going on. Do you think the actions of the Jewish Bolsheviks just might have influenced Hitler’s view of Jews? These crimes happened as Hitler was climbing the ladder and he knew what the Jews were doing to Christians, unlike America where Jewish Bolshevik actions were not reported.

      The Jews’ 1933 declaration of war on Germany was no mere bluff or empty threat. Jews were an active internal enemy. At home, alert Germans had already seen the bloody Jewish revolution of 1918-1919 that installed the secessionist Judeo-Communist Bavarian Soviet Republic. While Germany was trying to fight World War 1, subversive Jewish revolutionaries like Kurt Eisner, Gustav Landauer, Ernst Toller, and Eugen Leviné were murdering innocent Germans at home. By the time the Jews formally declared war on Germany in 1933, Germans had already seen millions die in the Jewish-led-and-funded Communist revolutions of the early twentieth century in Russia, Hungary, Bavaria, and elsewhere in Europe. There was a holocaust of over 60 million at the hands of Judeo-Bolshevism.

      “The white races of Europe should be destroyed and replaced with a race of Eurasian-Negroids who can be easily controlled by the ruling elite. We Jews intend to turn Europe into a mixed race of Asians and Negros ruled over by Jews” Crypto jew EU founding father Richard Coudenhove-Kalergi in “Praktischer Idealisms” 1925

      From the beginning, the EU has been a Jewish operation. It has two main goals:

      1. To destroy every one of the different European Nation States by consuming all of them under the non-ethnic specific name ‘European’, while at the same time consolidating Jewish power at the top ruling over everyone.

      2. To physically destroy all the different White ethnicities through forced integration and miscegenation with the Non-White hordes of Asia and Africa.
      The reason we’re in this mess? Because people have no idea what really happened in our history. You control the past, you control the present and future. WW2 was not about a Christian nation that all of sudden decided they wanted to conquer the world…it was about trying to stop the NY funded Russian murdering jewish communist Crypto jew Stalin and his “hordes” of raping jewish Bolsheviks, who wanted to sweep through Europe, killing and raping everyone is sight. General Patton was murdered because he discovered the war was not what they said it was…the very same thing with Pat Tillman, who discovered we were fighting to protect jewish oil and not American interest.

      Nothing in our official history is based on truth…including the sacred Holocaust…which has been proven countless times to be false…cognitive dissonance keeps Americans “believing” in all sorts of BS, from Santa to chemo, fluoride..to the American Dream. If anyone wants to really wake up to what’s happening, watch Dennis Wise’s documentary series called
      NWO Communism by the Back door…especially part 10.

      “The American government developed a technique which … was new… the manipulators of patriotic opinion made use of the mental clichés and the emotional habits of the public to produce mass reactions against the alleged atrocities, the terror, and the tyranny of the enemy. It was only natural, after the war ended, that intelligent persons should ask themselves whether it was possible to apply a similar technique to the problems of peace.” Edward Bernays, Propaganda 1928

      “Judaism is communism, internationalism, the universal brotherhood of man, the emancipation of the working class and the human society. It is with these spiritual weapons that the Jews will conquer the world and the human race. The races and the nations will cheerfully submit to the spiritual power of Judaism, and all will become Jews”… Rabbi Harry Waton

      “Jewish domination not as a numerical domination, but a domination of influence, as Jews work their way into key positions, or “choke points”, then make room for other sympathetic Jews in subordinate “choke points”. Such focused deployment of comparatively limited numerical resources assures that Jews take de facto control of an organization and deftly manipulate its agenda. This pattern has been replicated in other areas, to include the mass media, Congress, Pentagon, and the entertainment industry, as outlined in the National Alliance’s entry-level research report, “who rules America?”
      Jared Kushner? Council on Foreign Relations? Try-lateral Commission? well it’s not We the People…we have never in our history, been free…only the illusion of freedom. The NWO is tyranny and Orwell’s idea of how they want society to look like is their goal.

      “The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on.” – Henry Ford. February 1921, the New York World

      If you don’t know who puts you to sleep, you can’t wake up…

      Since November 22nd, 1963 the USA has been ruled by an illegal regime, as a vassal state to Israel and World Zionism.

  • Nottoobrite

    In my employment I have filled 6 passports in 11 years, seen most , done a lot. BUT , as you say the media is %+£&$@#!.. BUT , for all its mistakes ( good or bad ) The USA is the only country in today’s world with the balls to wave the Stop sign.
    All countries have problems that America has,( the intensity of the problems depends on population density ) BUT , 90% have problems that have been and gone, (in the USA ) are not socially adaptable, (in the USA) wrapped in ignorance, ( a mentality 500 + years behind the USA ) in short the USA is the powerhouse (in all respects, good or bad ) of today’s world, I am at present in Germany ( God help them ) driving + – 15 minutes at 5km an hour with 20 + cars and trucks in front and a passenger who could not count those behind, the reason being a farm tractor towing 3 trailers and a driver talking on his mobile, , in the USA if you have 5 vehicles behind you are obliged to get out of the way, but in Germany, to save the planet you have to switch off you engine at a red light. never mind the traffic jams that the police never see ( to busy playing tax collector ) the million Africans that M.Mercle invited, that get more in benefits that an unemployed German, or those Germans that sleep in train stations ? An this is supposed to be the most advanced country in Europe? A German working all his life ( government employee ) finds that when he gets his pension he his paying more taxes on his pension than he was paying on his salary, no, no Joe the USA with all its faults is heaven on earth ( if you don’t beleave me ask a Mexican who is about to be deported ! )

    • PJ London

      Thank you, you have just presented the problem with America far better than I or any non-American could.
      Americans are just arrogant SoBs.
      What makes you think that Germans, or Romanians or Brits or anyone wants to live like you do?
      We do not share your values, what the heck is your hurry, so you are a little inconvenienced, so what?
      I once followed a 2 mile tailback up a hill in central England, travelling at virtually 0 miles per hour. A tank transporter had a little old lady in front of them, she was on a three wheel tricycle in the lowest possible gear going up a hill. She must have been in her 70s. Not one person in more than a mile of traffic felt she should have got out of the way. We were all immensely proud of the old dear and hoped that we would be as independent and capable when we reached that age.
      So by all means live in America, be proud of it but do all of us a favour, the world would be an much, much better place if you and all your countrymen and women would just please P*** off back to the good old USA and stay there.
      PS if Mexicans want to live in USA good luck to them. How many Canadians are jumping the border?

    • lulu

      You forget that Canada is just north and the only thing better at this moment about the USA is that it has some warmer winter climates. Most places in central and South America would be quite ok if the USA had not gone there to subversively promote and fund regime change wars so corporate interests could have their way. The USA has what it has at the expense of a good portion of the rest of the world. You can be part of that if you like. Most are ashamed.

  • georgesilver

    When I look out of my window there is one World and when I look at my computer screen there is another. One is real the other is just entertainment. Even the Daily Bell is entertainment. The meaning of life is having a good time…. the rest is propaganda.

  • Derek

    Just live and be happy. Even questioning the “truth” means you want to believe it, when in reality, war is not worth believing. War is founded on lies, evil power and false pretenses.

  • Praetor

    If the worlds people have not figured out government is the problem, there really is no need to speculate whether what you see and read in ‘Mass Media’ is true or false. To watch ordinary people fight in the streets over what form of government they want to rule over them shows the extent how easy it is for the ordinary person to be manipulated. For those that have reason logic and insight, it really is time to prepare for the conflagration the government will cause. Don’t be sucked into a fight over which system of government is better than another there all corrupt, its best to just get yourselves prepared and try to survive.!!!

    • Earn nest

      I believe as of today we have ten states signed on to the convention. Did you ever hear the synopsis at the start of Six Million Dollar Man?

  • DebL.

    Only thing I know about North Korea is what a friend of mine, born in North Korea in the late 40s after Kim Il Sing took over, having escaped North Korea with her family in the 50s, has told me–when she was in elementary school, students had to literally worship Kim Il Sung. Since her family was Christian, they had to escape. She has never mentioned starvation or “unhappy people”, but just the fact that her family had to escape persecution of Christians is enough to convince me I would not want to live there! Frankly, I tend to not believe “reports” by western media regarding North Korea,, but the fact is they do persecute Christians there–then again, name me one country that doesn’t, to one degree or another…even in the US, true Christians are being persecuted (and by fellow Christians, no less! That is, “churchians”.)

    • Doc

      Having lived in China, I can tell you that North Korea must be a tough place to live in.

      There are 54 million Christians in China (I know a few) and they haven’t had it easy at times.

      But I think we should remember that nobody has an easy life under such governments.

      We should also remember that we all are subordinates to some government that hasn’t asked for our consent.

      • Hunter

        and no true consent could possibly occur without all true information…

  • Mstrjack

    “Red, White, & Blue”

    Trifecta Colors of Propaganda

  • Joe Blow

    According to Tom, Bill and Mark…

    “The control of information is something the elite always does, particularly in a despotic form of government. Information, knowledge, is power. If you can control information, you can control people.”Tom Clancy
    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
    William Casey CIA Director (from 1st staff meeting 1981)
    “If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed. If you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.” Mark Twain

    • Seriously.TimeToWakeUPAmerica

      “If you can control information, you can control people.” — Tom Clancy

      Exactly. Just look at the Warren Omission.

      • Joe Blow

        OK, you got it.

  • collette.robert@yahoo.com

    Americans have more in common with North Koreans than they suspect.

  • JDB

    When everything is said and done …regardless where we live , we the people are pointing one finger , and forgetting three are pointing back at us…all of the discussions are meaningless (leaves that fall to the ground) ….

  • autonomous

    Without question, we have a repressive, totalitarian government in the U.S.A. Equally unquestionable, our media (including much of the internet) is controlled by the same controllers who are at the helm of government. One may question whether U.S. citizens are as subject to the arbitrary whims of a police state as portrayed in hundreds of novels about Communist regimes, but no more so than those portrayals. One only needs to resist, however slightly, a policeman or an airline security officer, to find out quickly how overwhelming force will be applied.

  • RoHa

    “But we live in America”

    No, most of us don’t.

  • Perpetual Youth

    Good Point, my opinion is skewed, about N. Korea… night time sattalite photos show dark where N. korea is . Could that mean something other than poverty?

  • Seriously.TimeToWakeUPAmerica

    1) Grammar, 2) Logic, and 3) Rhetoric, i.e., The TRIVIUM. THAT is how we may know what the world is like. Just study the ‘Big Event’ of Nov. 22, 1963, for example. It provides MUCH insight into human nature, particularly as it relates to psychopaths, like LBJ. Start here:

    a) When Will They Ever Learn? [When Will the American People, Ever Learn?]


    Read the comments. Follow all links. Find out who really assassinated JFK.

    b) How to bring down the elephant in the room [And, It’s A BIG ELEPHANT!]

    Read the comments. Follow all links. It really isn’t any wonder, is it ~ that there is a “Jew”-ish Mafia? Of course not. La Cosa Nostra is a Freemasonic organization for the Italian Mafia. Freemasonry (Modern Speculative Freemasonry, est. 1717, London) is “Jew”-ish.

    • r2bzjudge

      “Find out who really assassinated JFK.”

      Lee Harvey Oswald.

      All the circumstantial evidence pointed directly at him.
      His rifle was missing from the Paine house. He was seen taking a completely enclosed package to work that morning. He was working on the 6th floor that day and that was where he was last seen by workers prior to the shooting.

      Gary Mack, who was the curator of the Sixth Floor Museum had at one time believed there was a conspiracy, but he came to realize that the evidence pointed to Oswald.

      • TimeToWakeUPAmerica

        Sorry, dude. You must not be capable of critical thinking, or just decided it was easier to drink the cool-aid. Either way, too bad for you.

  • Seriously.TimeToWakeUPAmerica

    Is it possible, that ORGANIZED CRIME is the ‘Shadow Government’, the
    REAL government, BEHIND the “official” government? It kinda looks that
    way, doesn’t it? Something tells me, this is a “global” phenomenon (lol).

  • r2bzjudge

    “When you think about it, I really don’t honestly know if North Korea is as poor or oppressive as we are told.”

    A night photograph from space shows that except for Pyongyang, the rest of North Korea is largely pitch black. I think that is a sufficient clue as to the poverty in North Korea. That the country largely prevents relatives in the south from meeting relatives in the north, sufficiently speaks to the North’s oppression.

    I have been in Panmunjom, where Pence was recently. Captain Bonifas and lieutenant Barret were killed at Panmunjom during my time in Korea. I also remember seeing a news story photo of a U.S. Army major who had been attacked in Panmunjom by North Korean soldiers, prior to the tree trimming incident.

    “…it is a helpful reminder that things are certainly not exactly how we
    perceive them, and events are possibly far different than they are

    One of the things i remember about the tree trimming incident, was that the news media asked the military if the MP’s drew their weapons during the fight. The military declined to answer the question. That part of the story is unknown to the public.

  • A few key events that turned out, on investigation, to be completely different than the way they were reported & remembered: Abraham Lincoln Assassination, “The Business Plot”, The CIA’s role in the Cold War, JFK assassination, Indochina (Vietnam) wars, MLK assassination, Jonestown massacre, Lockerbie bombing, “War on Drugs”, OKC bombing, 9/11, & “War On Terror”. My perspective, like others, is biased…but the pattern I see is that the greatest deceptions are often closely related to influencing events in ways that lead to more $$$/power for the US Security State via wars, military activities, covert activities, weapons/nuclear buildup, militarization of police/mass surveillance, etc. There is usually a short, medium, and/or long term effect to greater Security State spending & power in the key events where it seems that the greatest acts of public deception are occurring, and the finger prints often point at a similar set of actors: CIA, FBI, and their closest shadow state allies (many of the connections are off the record and unofficial, while most official employees have nothing to do with any of that, so the placeholder tags are rough/approximate).

    • r2bzjudge

      “A few key events that turned out, on investigation, to be completely
      different than the way they were reported & remembered: Abraham
      Lincoln Assassination,.. JFK assassination…”

      I watched Bill Oreilly’s Killing Lincoln and the story was pretty much as i remembered it. The Warren report conclusions have never been overturned by any credible evidence.

      The facts still are that Oswald went to his wife the night before the shooting. He took a completely enclosed package to work the next day. Ms. Randle, who saw him place the package in the car, said it nearly touched the ground, the way he was carrying it. The rifle was found on the 6th floor, where Oswald worked that day. Harold Norman, who watched the motorcade from the 5th floor, said all the shots originated from above his head. The last place Oswald was witnessed to be, was on the 6th floor.

      Two different Discovery Channel scientific investigational TV programs supported the single bullet theory.

      • There is a huge amount of evidence overturning EVERY aspect of the Warren Commission report. Literally everything the Warren Commission took seriously was false evidence, manufactured by the FBI. Oswald was a Spook, he was not the shooter, the rifle found was not really Oswald’s, the rifle found did not shoot the bullets found, the primary wound did come from the grassy knoll, 7 doctors/medical pros at Parkland saw the wound much as the Zapruder film showed it, dozens of people ran toward the grassy knoll, 2 different caskets arrived at Bethesda, 1 orderly testified that JFK’s brain was already gone before the autopsy started, the Oswald rifle photo was completely faked, the limo had a hole in the front windshield, the rifle found was incapable of firing even 3 bullets in the time window for the firing that was made possible from audio tapes, Jack Ruby was a lifetime mob figure, members of the Warren Commission privately talked about forging evidence and doubting what they were doing, Antonio Veciana talked about meeting David Atlee Phillips with Oswald and about how Phillips asked him to set up Oswald as a Castro agent… If one only follows the MSM one does not learn these things because the MSM is effectively controlled by the CIA and does not report them. In 1964, many sources tried to publish alternative theories and not 1 book was published in the USA supporting an alternative view – only in Europe. On day 1 of the actual event, the FBI began fabricating evidence and had a conversation with LBJ saying that it was an imposter, and not Oswald, who had talked to the KGB in Mexico City. – that was something Hoover was telling LBJ on day 1, while he was also telling “George Bush of the CIA” that anti-Castro forces should cool their heals.

        I’m not going to take time on Disqus to give 500 supporting links for all of the above, but they are available, and one can research did into it if you wish. No single book or video has all of the important things. Many recommend starting with Douglas’ book – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFK_and_the_Unspeakable
        Marr’s video about his book Crossfire is an even quicker starting point:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYtjg7VezpU One could check those out and then ask about elements of the above that they don’t cover.

        About Lincoln, the point is that most are taught in school about JWB as lone assassin while a larger conspiracy was known and several people were executed. The full extent of the conspiracy was not determined to the general satisfaction of historians.

        • r2bzjudge

          “There is a huge amount of evidence overturning EVERY aspect of the Warren Commission report.”

          No there isn’t. What you are stating above, is fiction.

          The rifle did belong to Oswald. He was photographed holding it, by his wife. It was not faked as you claim. It was missing from the Paine garage on the day of the shooting. Oswald took a completely enclosed package to work that day, which Randle said nearly touched the ground, the way Oswald was holding it. Inside that package was obviously, Oswald’s rifle.

          ” 7 doctors/medical pros at Parkland saw the wound much as the Zapruder film showed it”

          The Zapruder film showed that JFK’s head moved forward and down, the frame after the bullet struck. The film also showed that the upper right side of the skull blew out, leaving the scalp hanging over the right ear, forward. The Zapruder film showed no exit wound in the back of the head.

          “the primary wound did come from the grassy knoll”

          Both shots that stuck JFK were fired from behind him.

          “1 orderly testified that JFK’s brain was already gone before the autopsy started”

          The “stare of death” autopsy photo was taken prior to the start of the autopsy procedure. What remained of his brain, was still inside his head at the time. The brain was removed during the autopsy.

          “About Lincoln, the point is that most are taught in school about JWB as lone assassin while a larger conspiracy was known and several people were executed.”

          I remember learning that JWB shot Lincoln and other conspirators were supposed to kill Seward and Johnson.

          • r2bzjudge

            “the limo had a hole in the front windshield, the rifle found was
            incapable of firing even 3 bullets in the time window for the firing that was made possible from audio tapes”

            The audio tape, made from the dictabelt recording, was disputed. There were no gunshot sounds on the recording, just “audible and inaudible impulses.” Officer McClain, who Weiss and Ashkanski claimed was the source of the stuck open CH1 microphone, was on CH2 during the motorcade, as that was the channel assigned to the motorcade.

            The windshield of the limo was cracked, it did not have a hole in it.

      • MountainMan

        “The Warren report conclusions have never been overturned by any credible evidence”?

        Where are you getting your info from? Have you ever read…..

        “Rush to Judgment,” by Mark Lane?

        “Deep Politics and the Death of JFK, by Peter Dale Scott?

        “JFK and the Unspeakable,” by James W. Douglass?

        That’s just to name a FEW of the better books.

        Man, you are so behind the curve you must be floating dead in the water!

  • TimeToWakeUPAmerica

    Yes, we CAN KNOW what the world is like. Using REASON, LOGIC.

    Eustace Mullins wrote about ALL of this, way back in 1968. Eustace Mullins (R.I.P.)


    THE NEW HISTORY OF THE JEWS, by Eustace Mullins

  • Q46

    “We don’t really know though because all of our information about North Korea is imparted to us from the media and our corrupt government which controls them.”

    That is no longer the case is it?

    We now have a variety of non-Government controlled sources on the World Wide Web from people all round the World – although not from North Korea which in itself is a clue.