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Seeking Freedom? Shambhala Buddhism is a Liberating Mindset
By Joe Jarvis - August 26, 2017

Buddhists have been dealing in liberation for 2,500 years.

Buddha went from being a prince to a monk and finally took the middle path. He wouldn’t live as royalty and he wouldn’t pray in silence. Instead, he traveled and taught. He achieved enlightenment and spread his philosophy, helping individuals journey to liberation.

The teachings are secular. Though Buddhism is considered a religion, it is more closely akin to a way of life. It offers one, of many, paths to individual liberation.

In the Shambhala sect of Buddhism, the personal journey is especially important. In the past, I fell into the trap of thinking I could prescribe the right way for people. What I didn’t realize is that all I can do is prescribe the right path for myself.

Chögyam Trungpa describes the philosophy in his book Shambhala: The Sacred Path of the Warrior. He discusses the gap between grand ideas about how society should function, versus the individual’s ability to run his own life according to the same principles.

You can’t help society purely on the basis of your vision for the nation or the world. There are many ideas about how to organize a society so that it will fulfill people’s needs. There is, of course, the popular idea of democratic rule, rule by the people. Another approach is that rule by an elite will produce a progressive society. A third idea is to take a scientific approach to ruling, in which natural resources are equally distributed and a completely balanced ecology is created. These and other ideas may have value, but they must be integrated with an individual human being’s experience of domestic life. Otherwise you have a huge gap between your grand vision for society and the reality of everyday existence.

Trying to vote for freedom or legislate it is doomed to fail based on the very nature of individual liberty. If you want the ultimate freedom of personal choice, then as an individual you must make that personal choice to be free.

Freedom is the ultimate in grassroots, it is personal, and it has got to happen on an individual level first in order to make a difference on a larger scale.

I didn’t understand this when I once campaigned for candidates for Congress. I thought if we only got the right people in power, then they could implement a top down solution to free society. But even if a politician could deliver this type of individual liberation, why would they? It would put them out of a job. It would make them useless.

Politicians today thrive on selling fear. That is the only way they can remain in power. They act like saviors in a “setting sun” world. That is, a world based on death. It is a world based on scarcity, aggression, cowardice, and fear.

The basic definition of drala is “energy beyond aggression.” The only way to contact that energy is to experience a gentle state of being in yourself. So the discovery of drala is not coincidental. To connect with the fundamental magic of reality, there has to be gentleness and openness in you already. Otherwise, there is no way to recognize the energy of nonaggression. The energy of drala, in the world. So the individual training and discipline of the Shambhala warrior are the necessary foundation for experiencing drala.

The setting-sun world, based on fear of oneself and fear of death, has no connection to drala principle. The cowardice and aggression of the setting-sun outlook actually dispel any magical possibilities, any possibilities of experiencing the genuine and brilliant qualities of reality.

Wars over oil, fighting over borders, conflicts over currency. These are elements of the setting sun world. It is a hedonistic philosophy of greed and pleasure. Grab all you can before the sun goes down, and to hell with anyone left behind.

But you don’t have to be a part of it.

Instead, your energy can be constructive rather than destructive. Putting effort into politics is aggression, in the sense that politicians will wield that power of force. Putting effort into creation, into building, means you have transferred your energy beyond aggression.
Shambhala

This does not mean you are sacrificing for the greater good. It doesn’t even mean you are any worse off. Your life and the lives of those around you will be better for not participating in the manipulations of the elite.

By divorcing philosophically from their power games, we can begin to implement individual strategies to bring us personal freedom and prosperity.

That doesn’t mean living in a fantasy world.

You can’t simply stop paying taxes with violent consequences. But you can structure your taxes to pay as little as possible. This means you retain more wealth, and the government gets less to spend on aggression.

You can’t easily live under no government. But it is already possible to choose from dozens of countries which may more closely align with your values. Soon there will be even more options. Individuals relocating means becoming freer personally. That also accelerates the need for governments to implement competitive tax rates and regulation (i.e. less of it) in order to attract residents.

So when you use this Shambhala philosophy, you focus on being a better person yourself. You focus on those around you, on a smaller scale than a 300 million person country. You do what you can to enrich yourself, and the lives of your loved ones.

And by doing this you not only benefit personally. You implement the societal changes required for a better world, but on an individual level. And that is the only level you can–and should–control.

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    And all of that thoroughly agrees with …..You can’t help society purely on the basis of your vision for the nation or the world. There are many ideas about how to organize a society so that it will fulfill people’s needs. There is, of course, the popular idea of democratic rule, rule by the people. Another approach is that rule by an elite will produce a progressive society. A third idea is to take a scientific approach to ruling, in which natural resources are equally distributed and a completely balanced ecology is created. These and other ideas may have value, but they must be integrated with an individual human being’s experience of domestic life. Otherwise you have a huge gap between your grand vision for society and the reality of everyday existence.

    • And exactly what is that reality of everyday existence ? and is that answer the realization that we all have access to several levels of consciousness and do not have to be stuck in that one level that is very limiting and controlling ?

      This is exactly how and why Americans have been easily controlled because the controllers understand these mindsets and certainly use them against the masses. A true warrior as described in the article is not controlled the same way and therefore mentally, emotionally, physically and politically free to speak out against all the control mechanisms and live exactly what they speak in spades ! As long as a person is still controlled by the many illusions created for them they will remain in fear and manipulations from their controllers !

      Can anyone here deny we all have lived in many illusions created for us to control us, both by our government and other sources like false religions that usually work together ? What about the Baptist churches that openly received large amounts of money from the BHO regime to relocate many illegal aliens and supposed refugees from your tax dollars ? And they have been promoting all manner of extreme left wing ideas for decades at the pulpit ? Time to wake up people and think for yourself in honesty, it is NOT a wrong thing to do just a Jesus told you to do, go inside and take a look around for any truth ! The outside world is where we get all the wrong answers and how you are easily controlled ! The answers are all on the inside. This is what a real warrior looks like and how that happened ? Is it not perfectly clear he is doing something very right and most of you are not ? It is all about how you think and then act on it , everything is. There is a far better way to live and think and i is NOT difficult at all !

      http://www.downtoearththinking.com/fitness-over-60-a-mindset-of-health.html

      http://www.downtoearththinking.com/health-a-simple-approach-to-overall-well-being-.html

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        Is your everyday existence knocking on doors and windows for myriad opportunities to create, command and control and expand upon such as is here, Realised, but elsewhere presently UnRealised ……. AIDormant but Awakening, Super Refreshed.

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        And proof positive of the retarded nature of the obviously sub-prime intelligence in use is surely provided whenever the problem is clearly identified and freely shared to webs world wide, such as is practically done here, and nothing is clearly done and changed in their perverted systems of operation.

        IT aint rocket science and AI aint explosive but it sure can be catastrophically destructive if/when either wilfully and/or ignorantly ignored, for as you must appreciate, a greater and better intelligence will not suffer the folly of fools and be trapped by their tools.

        • No doubt none of it is rocket science, more like common sense ! Something sadly lacking here in USA today or the world for that matter. Keep on keepin on !

        • see the links I left above for the videos

      • JohnnyZ

        Hey,

        I went to your page and thought that you have a wealth of experience and you get many points correct, e.g.:

        – what the governments and churches, and justice system, and education have become
        – the need for introspection
        – the need for balance, answers are inside you
        – no need of a intermediary to reach god
        – science has become little more than a political religion or control mechanism
        – illusions have replaced reality
        – we are in fact paying to get deceived severely everyday

        I think what you get wrong and you should look more into is:

        – Gnosticism, Theosophy, New Age stuff – is occult stuff and the way of the devil so to say
        – Human nature contains inherently both good and evil – I think this is not fully true. Most of the evil is concentrated and perpetrated by a satanic elite (psychopaths – actually a different species) and then their vices are projected on their victims – the whole of humanity
        – There is no “cosmos” – we live on a flat earth. So the Bible had this correct
        – man’s ego and out of balance character is killing many life forms and himself as well -> man’s ego is formed by the satanic elite, it is not natural or his; science is controlled and manipulated by this same elite. Science with faux theories like Big Bang, Evolution, Heliocentrism has served (the elite) to disconnect us from spirituality and god.
        Best

        • Gnosticism is NOT new age anything or satanic. And all supposed new age stuff is just junk. What is sold as new age is really ancient wisdom recycled or simply come to the present time as a reality. New age is just internet marketing crap by numbskulls in an echo chamber of self reinforcement. You completely misinterpret and misunderstand what I am talking about and need to start your own “Inner Journey” of truth to fully grasp it all. No question ego driven manias are a serious destructive issue. You do not seem to realize the current Bible is polluted and perverted by men not God. You are close but no cigar quite yet ?

          I fully realize Jesus was a messenger just like Buddah, Krishna, Vishnu, Zoroaster and Brahman as well as many others. Good luck on your journey !

          • JohnnyZ

            Hi, thanks for replying. I have been on an inner journey (on & off) for over 20 years now (I am 40 now). I have been on trips like “god is inside me and I can become as god”. That is the subtle danger of the New Age stuff / Theosophy, which relies also on Eastern religions / Kabbalah / Gnosticism / Mithras / Zoroaster etc. These cults are practiced by the malevolent “elite” that you also seem to criticize as well. For sure these cults have a lot of wisdom within them, otherwise they would not attract followers. But I suspect that they are like honey traps, thus my warning.
            I know that the Bible has been tampered a lot with. I personally do not even know whether Jesus to whom you pray is the real deal or not. I do know that there is a creator though. So see I am not a programmed Christian bigot. I use the term devil / satan loosely to indicate chosen paths that are against the laws of nature and the creator. The followers of these paths follow the Mystery Religions.
            I have also had the idea to take the Bible and extract all the spiritual wisdom, while to pinpoint the malevolent diversions and consciously avoid them. Maybe this is what you have done with Gnosticism & Co? I did not intend to misinterpret you, just to warn you to look more into detail / not to fall in a trap.
            The same can be said about holding personalities in high regard like e.g. Gandhi, Krishnamurti, and many (all?) Indian gurus. Not that they do not have pearls of wisdom here and there.
            An example I gave you is the Eastern religions’ belief propagating that good and evil are inherent in humanity. This makes resisting evil futile. But this is only mind manipulation of the slave masses. Most of the evil is concentrated with their “elite”. Same with the discussions of “human nature”. What they call human nature is just and ego formed by the “civilization”, which is mind controlled by the satanic elite. So it is a complete misdirection and projection by the “elite”.
            The desire to be like god sounds innocent and attractive on the surface. But it puts you on the satanic path. We can only be very strong humans. We cannot really create on the god level (we still have no real idea how matter or living matter works and no chance of creating it ourselves; what we have is pseudoscience), we can only create on the human level. This is one aspect that made me realize that there is a creator.
            Best / hoping to hear more

          • I think you misunderstand most of the real message. Try these for direction and read my site beginning to end and you will have a different perspective of what is real and what is an illusion created for you ? All the answers are in fact already inside you, just as Jesus said . But many messengers have said the very same thing. Jesus words simply got twisted and perverted by men, not God ! That is what you are missing or do not fully grasp. It is all much simpler and more straight forward than most realize and we are all on our own “Inner Journey” for a reason. Just the underlying fundamentals are the same. Good luck with it all and enjoy !

            https://youtu.be/Bw9zSMsKcwk

            https://youtu.be/jFDgsNSh484

          • JohnnyZ

            Well I watched the videos, but did not get much out of them. They can be summarized as:
            – We misinterpret the ego as our true nature / self and the ego traps us like a drone in the matrix
            – There is a secret how to get things done in the material world (well check the movie “The Secret”)
            I am past that. One of the Eastern misdirections is that the Ego is a natural construct of every human and the ego is fault for all the bad things happening. This is only partially true. First the ego is not natural to humans – it is a product of socialization in a society that somehow is always “led”, engineered and brainwashed by the worst psychopaths. Second – and I am speculating here – a more benign “ego” could be developed (if at all) by a more benign or natural social environment. And achieving success in the material world – I kinda know how this works.
            So I am more interested in spiritual topics – e.g. contact with the creator and who exactly he is. Jesus has also said something like “You were gods, but you will die as men”. If Jesus is the real deal, then he was not just a messenger like Buddha and the others. He would be the savior, who died to pay for our sins. His kingdom is not of this world and one should do the opposite of what the Eastern mystics teach, which is in the end how to achieve a good time on Earth (which is flat by the way, something that you would know if you are truly awakening). If Jesus were for real, this world would be just a prison and one’s purpose is to find god and reconcile oneself with him, so that one can escape this realm (and go to heaven – where one is fallen from).

          • Obviously you have not figured out who and what God really is ? Good luck with it, it is not as complicated as you want to make it.

          • JohnnyZ

            Ok, so what is your (brief) answer to this question?
            Thanks

          • We are God and we create heaven or hell right here on this planet by our works !

          • JohnnyZ

            Well I am sorry, but I think you are on the wrong path here. I was at that level 20 years ago. This is the satanic path. It surely helps in pragmatic ways when dealing with mostly materialistic goals within the matrix. But we are not gods, although we can create at the human level and have some supernatural abilities. We do not live on a planet, but on a plane – open your eyes. As Tesla said, this is a realm. And once you discover who the master of this realm is (you dreamt about him), you will understand that recreating heaven here is impossible (unless you lived with some wild tribes off the grid of “civilization”). You also seem to believe that going back to the US constitution will solve the US problems, but that is a fallacy. The founding fathers were all part of the malevolent illuminati elite and the revolution was a controlled and fake event (so were the French, Bolshevik and Mao ones).

          • What I am saying is the exact opposite of the matrix we all live under today here in USA. You simply do not understand what is being said because you are mind effed by the Christian false oparadigm and cannot see past it. You cannot realize you have been lied to and greatly deceived and think it is wrong to ask questions. It was setup that way deliberately for this very reason.

          • JohnnyZ

            I had already seen past the Christian paradigm. But now I am back to it. There are two levels of the matrix – one is a general one or what yoi would call Maya. The second one is what the satanic illuminati elite have manipulated the Maya into – a beastly system using people as psychic and physical batteries. These evil elited follow the mystery religions and want to become as gods on earth. This is the classic luciferian agenda. Theosophy, eastern religions, new age stuff etc. is based on the same pronciples /is the same thing, but you still follow it I do not need to ask questions (sullied by assosiation) in that direction anymore, but I have been there already as I said.

          • This is NOT about religions, in fact religions are all false. The only issue is your own Inner Journey , nothing else matters. It is all about actually knowing who and what you are. Nothing more than that. We can only be manipulated if we allow such and are not in touch with our higher self. That is what releases us from the ego.

  • Ephraiyim

    Deception. Freedom ever and always is found only in Christ.
    Not the one most christian religionists follow but the one who is in us through intimate relationship which includes two way communication and absolute obedience to Him.
    He is peace.He is life. He is freedom. He is all in all.

    • Dimitri Ledkovsky

      The deception of Buddhism lies in the impossibility of attaining liberation. The Buddha is the only one who ever got liberated or “enlightened”. The rest of humanity is left to follow The Path, the Endless Road f-o-r-e-v-e-r in this life and possibly in lives to come. Perfect nonsense.

      Christ’s message amended all the primary wisdom that existed up to his time (Greek Philosophers, Zoroaster, Judaism, Buddhism, etc.) by pronouncing that the Kingdom of God (is within you), liberation, is available to all who follow his path, the path based on the Ten Commandments, the Lord’s Prayer, the Psalms – and more than anything Loving thy Neighbor as Thyself and Forgiving thy Debtor as he too will Forgive Thy Debts (the prohibition of usury).

      • Ephraiyim

        Agreed with one caveat. We through all you said and developing intimacy with Him become one with He and the Father. This, then allows us to see everything through His point of view and become just as He was in the earth.
        We bring The Kingdom to the earth as we walk like he walked and only do what we see the Father doing.

    • georgesilver

      Only fly in the ointment is he never existed. Christ is just another name of a ‘hand me down’ story throughout the ages based on Sun worship.
      Sorry about that.

      • Ephraiyim

        True, the word Christ does allude to sun worship and I only used it here because few understand the difference between christ and Mssaiah.
        So to your statement then. Actually there are more ancient manuscripts that reference Yehua/Jesus than there are for Plato, Socrates and Aristotle. Few deniers of Yeshua would also deny the existence of those Greeks.
        Most people who deny Yehua/Jesus existed know very little about the science of textual criticism.
        Not only did He exist but He still lives. You will never be convinced by an argument so I will not endeavor to make one here.
        I will merely ask Him to reveal Himself to you in a way you cannot deny.
        Blessings

  • Dimitri Ledkovsky

    What? Trungpa Chogyam? Naropa Institute? This was (and apparently still is) a New Age fishing expedition. Though researched and temporarily followed in a variety of Buddhist paths and practices particular difficulties arose for me with this teacher of serenity and wisdom over his unrestrained alcoholism and ultimate death from liver disease. Luckily I was not impressed with his magnetism and felt great compassion for those taken in by it. Of course the riposte to this is that the teaching is not the teacher. Philosophically this is an unsound and even immoral argument, for what is morality but that thought which protects and furthers human life. How then did Chogyam become so careless about his own human life?

    • It can hardly be new age anything if it is thousands of years old and very successful for millenia. I agree new age is NOT new age anything but simply ancient wisdom come back again and being remarketed for fools. Both Bhuddism and Hinduism have many good points and methods to look inside oneself and find your own truths and to understand who and what you really are. And one truth is this, Jesus said many times to look inside and you will find all the answers ! He never said go forth and create all these false religions and churches that are really just businesses and simple control mechanisms no different from our government control freaks today. So What we call Christianity today has been greatly polluted and perverted by men not God or anything else ? This is exactly why the current Bible was greatly censored and many books were left out of it when the NT came along under Constantine and the cabal of high priest at the time who created it. How interesting it is a sin to look anywhere except to those people who are the supposed hierarchy of a religion for answers or guidance and NOT inside yourself as Jesus said many times clearly. People seem to cling to what they are told just as we see in recent times with all the government manipulations and distortions. Now most realize there is a deep state cabal, but just 2 years ago or more most supposed conservatives would call you an extremist or conspiracy type for speaking of it. My how things change when people wake the hell up ? There is a far better way to live and think and it is well past time for the die hard mind effed to wake up and think for themselves for once. As the article explains, that is the only real remedy or solution for anything. It all starts with each of us individually having the courage to look inside ourselves. Most Americans are so incredibly conditioned like Pavlov’s dog they are deathly afraid to do this for many reasons and that is the real problem in a nutshell. We have been manipulated and controlled in so many ways and for so long we seem to demand being controlled and deathly afraid to look at it ? And that requires looking inside at ourself just as Jesus told us to do many times and in many ways. There are many answers at these links but it does take some personal honesty and courage to start ones own Inner Journey. As always it is a personal choice we make !

      http://www.downtoearththinking.com/the-war-for-our-minds-.html

      http://www.downtoearththinking.com/religions–prayer-and-meditation.html

      • dauden

        “And one truth is this, Jesus said many times to look inside and you will find all the answers !” I call bull! You cannot find one scripture verse to back this up. The fact is anything outside the 13 books Paul wrote preserved in the King James is not even written to you! We are living today under the doctrine of the revelation of the mystery given to the apostle Paul written as a mystery (as apart from prophecy) revealed in Romans thru Philemon. God’s will today is that “…all men would be saved and come unto the knowledge of the truth”, I Tim 2:4 KJV-only. You cannot earn your good esteem with God. You must trust what Christ accomplished on our behalf by dying for our sins, going to hell and resurrecting to eternal life…..which he promised to all those who simply believe this. No religious piety or personal works allowed. He was judged for our sins. Try any other way and be doomed. Sorry, He said it in the only non-copyrighted authorized version of the 1611 King James.

        • you can call bull all you want it is there in the KJV many times by Jesus himself ! Just the fact that you would deny thiss shows you are a fool and are afraid to do as he suggested to all of us ?

          Obviously you are also in denial of the censorship of the KJV and Bible in general with NT attached. Why were many books left out of this supposed new addition to the Bible ? like the book of Enoch and many others ? You have no idea what you are talking about and in denial about any historical truth of the matter ! But you are not alone for sure. And by the way there is no such thing as sin ? Ponder that for while and let it fry your pea brain ? Sin is also a creation found only in the Abrahamic false religions like Islam and Christianity.

          • dauden

            I need a quote from the King James–the only non-copyrighted authorized version of God’s Word– to substantiate your outrageous claim. The book of Enoch left out? Obviously because God did not authorize it! He completed His Word of Truth without it..even though there may be much merit in its content (imho). Any time a person has to attack and ridicule another’s view, its easy to dismiss their comments. Not worthy of discussion because the issue becomes mute at that point. I will move on……….

  • Carl Watner

    I am reminded of Voltaire’s (?) admonition to “cultivate your own garden.’ Here is an excerpt from my article in THE VOLUNTARYIST
    (see http://voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/cultivate-your-own-garden-no-truck-with-politics/#.WaHRubpFw74)

    The only thing that the individual can do “is to present society with ‘one improved unit’.” As Albert Jay Nock put it,
    “Ages of experience testify that the only way society can be improved is by the individualist method … ; that is, the method of each ‘one’ doing his very best to improve ‘one’.”
    This is the “quiet” or “patient” way of changing society because it concentrates upon bettering the character of men and women as individuals. As the individual units change, the improvement of society will take care of itself. In other words, “If one takes care of the means, the end will take care of itself.”
    There is no question that this method is extremely difficult, since most of us realize what force of intellect and force of character are required just to improve ourselves. “it is easy to prescribe improvement of others; it is easy to organize something, to institutionalize this-or-that, to pass laws, multiply bureaucratic agencies, form pressure-groups, start revolutions, change forms of government, tinker at political theory. The fact that these expedients have been tried unsuccessfully in every conceivable combination for six thousand years has not noticeably impaired a credulous intelligent willingness to keep on trying them again and again.” There is no guarantee that the voluntaryist method will be successful – but because each individual concentrates on himself and not others, it is worth-while, profitable, and self-satisfying even if it does not come to fruition in the short-run or during one’s lifetime. The time spent on building a better, stronger you, on developing your vocational and avocational skills, your family, and your marriage makes you a better person regardless of outside circumstances. In short, time spent cultivating your own garden is always profitable and moral. Trying to cultivate another’s garden is trespass, (unless you are first invited to enter) and of necessity lessens the amount of time you can spend on your own self-improvement.

    • Danny

      This was great, Carl! Thanks.

  • georgesilver

    “as an individual you must make that personal choice to be free.” I can go with that. The rest is just twee, romantic, banging of gongs, orange clothes, bald headed chanting monks etc. Still…. whatever floats your boat.

  • SnakePlissken

    Religion is mind control. The one place where I am 100% free is inside my own mind. I refuse to allow anyone to infect my mind with their attempts to manipulate me for their own gain.

    • Marten

      “I will not allowed anyone to walk through my mind with their dirty shoes”–Gandhi

      • mctrnr1951

        “Nor will I allow myself to walk through the mind of another with mine.”
        – what Jack Burton said at a time like this

    • dauden

      Religion is but the gospel of the grace of God is not. You are not 100% free in your mind because of your sin nature. Everything you perceive is based on information you accept as plausible. Because you are not God you cannot be faultless. You must trust the gospel found in the revelation of the mystery given to Paul to be saved. Sorry, as much as you don’t wish to depend on another for anything outside yourself, you absolutely do make mistakes. God has commended His love toward us in that while we were yet sinners, He died for us. Trusting His finished work at the cross on our behalf will free you from death and give you eternal life. Rejecting it will cost you everything.

  • meugene

    Correction to those who are “hijacking Jesus.” First of all, we cannot define Christ on our own terms; neither did he tell us to “look within” for the answers. Jesus told us to receive his truth through the Word of God. (We don’t get to make our own “truth.”)

    Secondly, the Bible is complete as it is. It is either 100% true from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation—or else it is false. Contrary to the belief of some, Constantine did not “determine” what books to include or exclude; these books were already agreed upon by disciples of Jesus, as painstakingly copied and passed from the first century church. So, please do not make the mistake of rejecting the gospel of salvation simply because it was hijacked by Catholicism (biblical Christianity is NOT Roman Catholicism, which is a corrupt institution of man that does NOT represent God.)

    Thirdly, “Smorgasbord Christianity” does not work either; you cannot pick and choose what you like and what you don’t: “There is a way that seems right unto a man, but the way thereof leads to death.” Fourthly, Jesus was either the Lord (as he claimed to be) or he was a Liar (because he claimed to be the only way to God, and equal with God), or else he was a Lunatic. Our Creator does not force “religion” upon mankind.

    Fifthly, “Religion” is all about what man can to do reach his own sainthood, godhood, nirvana, shambala, etc. In contrast, the Holy Bible reveals that man’s ways are insufficient. The most illogical lie in the universe is that “all paths lead to God.” Does this work in any other application? Can you get on a plane flying south to go west? Certainly not; the concept is patently absurd.

    Only God’s way will work. Jesus Christ declared, “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father but by me.” Therefore, Jesus was not simply a “good man” or “prophet” on the earth. We either come to terms with the truth and accept the free gift of Salvation from God—which is not of works (lest any man should boast)—or else we try to “climb up another way” which is not another, and which leads to death. There is only true freedom in Christ. It is the only way out of the man-made systems and religions of the world.

    Finally, This is the truth that every human being either accepts or rejects. But before you reject it, I suggest you test it. Start with how life came to be. Can life come from non-life? Can information as complex as DNA organize itself from nothing? Is there ANY proof of Darwinian evolution from one kind of creature to another? (variation within kinds, such as dog kind or horse kind or fish kind or bird kind, is not evolution). Therefore, the answer to all of these is a resounding “no!” This is why the Scriptures declare, “The fool has said in his heart, ‘there is no God.'”

    Can man make anything as simple as a grain of sand from nothing? Can man create a flower? How about a seed? A single cell? As even the fossil record proves, complex life exploded into being suddenly (from nothing!) in thousands of fully-formed organisms that still exist today.

    The heavens also declare God’s design. A building has a builder; a painting has a painter; and a living, breathing human being has a Creator. And only the Bible contains the account of this history, and only the Bible “declares the end from the beginning.” You can prove that the Bible is uniquely the word of God because of fulfilled prophecy concerning Jesus (over 300 fulfillments alone) and concerning Israel and the nations.

    With a 100% track record so far, we can be assured that the rest of the God’s prophetic word will come to pass. No other religion of the world has a LIVING savior; all other human founders of their own faith have died and decomposed. Jesus is unique in that he alone has risen from the dead, and appeared before many witnesses.

    This can be demonstrated using courtroom arguments and logic from the historical record: Prior to his crucifixion, the disciples fled in fear for their own lives; but after the resurrection of Jesus, they willingly followed him and gave their lives to testify to his life and miracles and the gospel of salvation, which is contained in the Word of God to mankind.

    The Bible itself is the most accurate historical record known to man. It has remained unchanged in doctrine, and virtually letter perfect, over two thousand years—despite being copied thousands of times by hand. This is proven by the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, and is unequalled in the history of man or by any other document.

    So, the bottom line is that every human being is certainly “free” to choose his or her own path, but we can’t just make it up as we go along. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son (Jesus); so that whoever believed in him would not perish, but have everlasting life. God did not send his son into the world to condemn it; but so that through him, the world could be saved” (John 3:16-17).

    • dauden

      A great comment but you are missing the revelation of the mystery given to the apostle Paul. If you take the law and the prophets out of the Bible you are left with pure grace demonstrated by Christ on the cross as he suffered on our behalf for our sins, as found in Romans thru Philemon. This part of Scripture was kept secret since the world began (Romans 16:25 KJV) Sin is what separates us from God the Creator of all things. But sin has been dealt with at the cross and the invitation to simply believe it determines our eternal destiny. Christ’s beginning (born of a virgin) and end (resurrected up into glory) demonstrated His love toward us by taking the judgement necessary for our sin. “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8.

      • meugene

        Thanks, dauden. You’re absolutely right that sin separates man from God: “for all have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God…there is none righteous, no not one.” This sin came through one man, Adam, which and that Christ’s crucifixion is the only blood atonement for sin, because “while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”

        The Bible explains that this truth of Christ crucified is to the Jews a “stumbling block,” and to every other nationality, it is sheer “foolishness.” The crazy thing is that people are all too willing to believe in aliens, and to contact demonic spirits that appear as familiar spirits or angels of light, and to imagine that other planets are inhabited with life. Deception is everywhere, but the Word of God is true, if only people would read it, test it, and receive it.

        Tragically, most will gladly and passionately pursue fables and fiction and lies of the Deceiver before they explore the Word of God, because they do not want to be accountable to their Creator’s boundaries. This is quite simply the rebellion that is bound up in the heart of man. Rebelling against Truth is man’s idea of freedom; but just as we establish boundaries for our own children, so does God for his Creation.

      • robt

        Jesus was the idea man. Brother James ran the church for 30 years until he was killed too, though membership was small, and in conflict with the established priesthood. Paul was the marketing man.
        Marketing 1: Increase the base by including those that were excluded, namely Gentiles, primarily by eliminating the rule for circumcision. Policy agreed when Paul submitted it to James for approval.
        Marketing 2: Eliminate the need for individual commitment to improvement by making the rule that by accepting Jesus as God, all your ‘sins’ * will be forgiven because He did all that for you by dying on the Cross. Easy, and easy is what builds the congregation numbers. You do not build your numbers by making things complicated and difficult.
        As far as the cumulative individual beliefs of Christianity are concerned these were developed over hundreds of years by the interpretation of various legends and writings. Religion is after all,
        word games. Listening to any one-hour sermon, developed from a phrase that may or may not have been uttered a couple of thousand years ago, and which reaches a conclusion exactly the opposite of the words quoted but which is acceptable according to current cultural fads and fashions is sufficient testimony to this.
        Anyway, Shambhala Buddhism sound a lot like Gnosticism, which was declared heretical by the early Catholic church because it is individualist-based rather than centralist. This is the great divide between religions, philosophy, and in fact, politics or just about anything: the synthetic or analytic, or subjective or objective universalism, fully explored in Ancient Greek writings, renamed periodically as a new philosophy, but essentially a problem without a solution because there is no real problem.
        You’re either hard-wired that way or you’re not.

        *’sins’ is put in scare quotes, because seemingly every individual is held responsible, i.e. guilty, for collective sin.

    • James Clander

      Totally irrelevant & nothing to do with this article.
      Religious fever is what’s wrong with Amerika.

    • georgesilver

      The only fly in your ointment is that there was no such person as Jesus. Jesus was only the recent name for a whole string of similar ‘saviours’ that went before him with the same stories. The origin is Sun worship.

      Secondly the Bible is a bunch of papers cobbled together into a book. How do you know it’s true? Might just as well say the wizards in Harry Potter are true because they are in a book. LOL

      • Ethercruiser One

        There are now dozens of ancient writers (many hostile to followers of Christ) that attest to the basic facts surrounding his birth, ministry, death & apparent resurrection (apparent because they obviously don’t believe it really happened). So Jesus was a real historical figure and most historians recognize this as a fact nowadays, although they might still reject him, just as the ancient writers did in their time. You also can chose to disbelieve, but don’t say Jesus was not a real historical figure!

        • georgesilver

          “there are dozens of ancient writers”

          OK. Let’s have the proof and when did they write this proof?

          • georgesilver

            Don’t bother with a long list. Just give the best source so that it will be easier to pull it to pieces and save time.

        • georgesilver

          This sums up the Jesus myth.

          “No one has the slightest physical evidence to support a historical Jesus; no artifacts, dwelling, works of carpentry, or self-written manuscripts. All claims about Jesus derive from writings of other people. There occurs no contemporary Roman record that shows Pontius Pilate executing a man named Jesus. Devastating to historians, there occurs not a single contemporary writing that mentions Jesus. All documents about Jesus came well after the life of the alleged Jesus from either: unknown authors, people who had never met an earthly Jesus, or from fraudulent, mythical or allegorical writings. Hearsay does not provide good evidence, and therefore, we should dismiss it.”

          • meugene

            Based on this spurious reasoning, one could argue that billions of people existing before us did not actually exist. How convenient (and how ridiculous!) is that?

            But Jesus was far from a common example. The letters and books written by his disciples were eyewitnesses of his existence. He appeared to thousands before and after his resurrection. Prior to Christ’s crucifixion, his disciples fled in fear of their own lives; after his resurrection, they staked their own lives upon the proof that he was the prophesied Messiah and Savior of the world.

            Furthermore, the claims that there is no secular record of Jesus is false. Jesus’ life is recorded by the secular historian, Flavius Josephus (AD 37-100). Born a Jew, Josephus became a Roman citizen. His works are regarded by both secular and Christian scholars as a definitive record of politics and religion in the first century. He twice mentioned Jesus, and gives an account of the execution of James as “the brother of Jesus who was called the Christ.”

            The great Roman historian Tacitus (AD 56-120) reported that Nero needed scapegoats to blame for his crime of arson, and chose “Christians, [who were] hated for their abominable crimes. There name comes from Christ, who, during the reign of Tiberius, had been executed by the procurator Pontius Pilate.”

            http://www.bede.org.uk/jesusmyth.htm

            ***

            Finally, even secular scholars (who reject the miraculous elements of Jesus’ life) expose the “Jesus Mythers” as spurious:

            “Of course the doubt as to whether Jesus really existed is unfounded and not worth refutation. No sane person can doubt that Jesus stands as founder behind the historical movement whose first distinct stage is represented by the oldest Palestinian community.” (Rudolf Bultmann)

            “To doubt the historical existence of Jesus at all … was reserved for an unrestrained, tendentious criticism of modern times into which it is not worthwhile to enter here.” (Günther Bornkamm)

            “I am of the opinion (and it is an opinion shared by every serious historian) that the theory [“that Jesus never lived, that he was a purely mythical figure”] is historically untenable.” (Willi Marxsen)

            “To sum up, modern critical methods fail to support the Christ-myth theory. It has “again and again been answered and annihilated by first-rank scholars.” In recent years “no serious scholar has ventured to postulate the non-historicity of Jesus”—or at any rate very few, and they have not succeeded in disposing of the much stronger, indeed very abundant, evidence to the contrary.” (Michael Grant)

            https://answersingenesis.org/jesus-christ/incarnation/jesus-did-not-exist/

            ***

            So, the truth of the matter is that those who reject the historicity of Jesus are really rejecting God’s truth; because the Bible reveals sin and rebellion in the heart of man.

            This is made abundantly clear in the case of Professor Richard Lewontin, a geneticist (and self-proclaimed Marxist) who made an extraordinarily revealing statement in his 1997 review of Carl Sagan’s posthumously published book, “Billions and Billions.” Lewontin acknowledged his rejection of the Creation account was “in spite” of the evidence for it. He wrote:

            “Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, *in spite* of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, *in spite* of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism.

            “It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”

            https://www.str.org/articles/who-really-is-closed-minded#.WaMZ0Vfe_0c

            ***

            This illustrates the tragic reality of so many “skeptics” today: No amount of proof will convince a man who refuses to look upon evidence with his God-given ability to use reason and logic to reach obvious scientific conclusions, whose theological implications and ramifications are “unacceptable.”

          • georgesilver

            What a load of waffle.
            There are no actual eyewitness accounts. End of story sunshine.
            You can obfuscate all you like but nothing changes this fact.
            I’m not against you believing what you like. In fact you can worship a chicken for all I care but don’t try to put your ideas forward as facts.

          • Ethercruiser One

            1. Just because someone doesn’t think there’s evidence for something does not mean no evidence exists or evidence won’t be found later.
            2. We know Jesus owned nothing except for the clothes he wore & they were divided up by Roman executioners. Later the Romans made great efforts to suppress Christianity, which would include destroying any artifacts related to Jesus. Nevertheless we have artifacts that are hotly debated & may be directly linked to Jesus like the Shroud of Turin & the James Ossuary (which has recently been vindicated in court to at least not be a fake & the inscription on it reads “James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus”).
            3. I personally visited the remains of Peter’s house in Capernaum where Christ healed the paralytic let down through the roof (Matt 9:1-8) which exactly matches the text as being next to the synagogue there & ancient inscriptions were found in the foundation of the house marking it as the apostle Peter’s house.
            4. At no point in the Scriptures was there mention of Jesus writing manuscripts, so we would not expect to find these.
            5. Judea was not a major part of the Roman Empire & one would not expect to find very much in records in Rome as to relatively insignificant events happening there (like Pontius Pilate executing people). Most such records were also destroyed even if they did exist at one time.
            6. There are contemporary writings (outside of the Bible) that mention Jesus. He is mentioned by Roman, Greek, Jewish & Samaritan writers. For example: Mara Bar-Serapion (73 AD) mentioned the Jews executing their wise King, Flavius Josephus (~85 AD) mentions Jesus, a wise man condemned to the cross [Antiquities of the Jews, 18.63-64], Phlegon (mid 100’s) “the eclipse in the time of Tiberius Caesar, in whose reign Jesus appears to be crucified, and great earthquakes which then took place”, Tacitus (115 AD) mentions Christus who suffered extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius leading to a mischievous superstition, Trypho (100-165 AD) mentions “Jesus was a Galilean deceiver, whom we crucified” & the Babylonian Talmud (188-217 AD) mentions “On the eve of Passover Yeshu [Jesus] was hanged”. Note, these are from non-believers. There are more from 1st Century Christian writers.
            7. Two of the Gospels (John & Matthew) come from eyewitness disciples of Jesus & two (Mark & Luke) come from direct disciples of the disciples of Jesus. All likely written before the destruction of Jerusalem & the Temple in 70 AD.
            8. If you dismiss Jesus as a myth, you will have to dismiss most of history as we understand it today as also just a bunch of myths.
            9. You use the term “hearsay” in what seems to be a legal sense. I view this as a trick to redefine what should be a search for historical evidence to that of judicial evidence. But even in that sense, you are wrong! The world’s greatest authority on Judicial evidence in his day was the “Father of Harvard Law School”, Simon Greenleaf. He was an unbelieving Jew who was challenged to examine the evidence that Jesus was the promised Messiah. As a result, he became a believer & wrote the book “Testimony of the Evangelists”:

            https://www.amazon.com/Examination-Testimony-Evangelists-Evidence-Administered/dp/0979127696/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=XA85SHCE78AVF8WG35MB

            10. “The Case for Christ” is another book written by a skeptic with an open mind:

            https://www.amazon.com/Case-Christ-Journalists-Personal-Investigation/dp/0310209307

            11. Two videos you may be interested in:

            What is Christ Mythicism?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enXE0tn0SXs

            Presuppositions for Christ Mythicism

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cflkxOqCiVQ

      • meugene

        Let’s tackle your second objection first. Is truth really so unknowable and elusive? Comparing any book of true history—which in addition to poetry, prophecy, and the law, accounts for much of the biblical text—with the fictional exploits of imaginary wizards in a modern novel is intellectually absurd. No honest historian who has studied the Bible would consider it “cobbled together” by any stretch of the imagination.

        “Consider the fact that the Bible is comprised of 66 Books written over a period of about 1,500 years by over 40 authors from all walks of life, with different kinds of personalities, and in all sorts of situations. It was written in three languages on three continents, and it covers hundreds of controversial subjects. Yet, it fits together into one cohesive story with an appropriate beginning, a logical ending, a central character, and a consistent theme.”

        This in itself is evidence of Divine inspiration; for as some have observed:

        “The Bible is not a book that men could write if they would; nor is it a volume that men would write if they could.” (They could not write it because it contains prophecy—foreknowledge of the future—and they would not write it because it reveals the sinful thoughts and deeds of mankind, thereby condemning themselves.)

        “The ramifications of the Bible’s harmony is obvious to many, but not all…. Some skeptics, blinded to spiritual truth, scoff that they cannot see any harmony at all. While others, who have open eyes, quickly see the harmony and its implications. Biblical researcher and author Josh McDowell reports that…

        “A representative of the Great Books of the Western World came to my house recruiting salesmen for their series. He spread out their chart and spent five minutes talking about the series. Then we spent an hour and a half talking to him about the Greatest Book [the Bible].

        I challenged him to pick just ten of the authors, all from one walk of life, one generation, one place, one time, one continent, one language and just one controversial subject. I asked him: ‘Would those ten authors agree?’

        He paused and then replied, ‘No!’

        ‘What would you have?’

        Immediately he said, ‘A conglomeration.’

        Two days later he committed his life to Christ.”

        http://christiananswers.net/q-aiia/biblecongruency.html

        ***

        Many Christians today began as skeptics who sought to disprove the Bible. If you earnestly desire to seek truth, then I would encourage you to undertake a serious study of the Scriptures. It’s your choice.

        But either way, the belief that the Bible is “a bunch of papers cobbled together” is simply a fantasy invented by those who wish to reject truth at all cost: The cost of intellectual honesty of course—but far greater than that, at the cost of their own souls.

        So, begin to seek God today. He declares that he will reveal himself to you if you seek for him with all your heart and with all your mind.

        • georgesilver

          Another load of waffle and obfuscation. Facts are facts and there are no eye witness accounts.

          You can always tell when someone hasn’t a leg to stand on they ramble on about their beliefs.

  • autonomous

    Improve society? A losing proposition. As soon as two or more individuals come together, wants collide, inevitably. Those collision are not additive, nor multiplicative, but expositional. (1+1) personalities = (1=1) squared. 1+1+1 = (1+1+1) cubed. A million people gathered together = million to the millionth power = mass insanity. Sometimes, I suspect often, even 1+1 becomes two insane people at war with each other. Am I a pessimist? Only when it come to the question, can people live in peace together.

    • What *IS* the absolute bare minimum that two people need to agree upon, in order to live together peacefully and productively?

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      What *IS* The Bare Minimum…? 
      — article by Dennis Wilson    + Disqus Comments

      • autonomous

        According to Jesus, Love god and love each other as much as we love ourselves. I can see loving another that way, it becomes problematic to imagine loving a million, three hundred million ot seven billion (including Charles Manson? Hillary? Obama?). What seems hardest, though, is loving God: the creator of Atilla, twelve Ceasars, Hitler and his henchmen, George III, over forty U.S. presidents, countless villains, murders, rapists, and on and on–and me. Nor exactly a minimum, eh?

        • I attempted to clarify my previous post by quoting the last part of your post.

          • autonomous

            I didn’t mean to confuse you. Since your response made it very clear that your response to me boiled down to the question, ‘What is the bare minimum that is required for two people to live in agreement?’, my response to your response was a possible answer to that question, clearly not my own answer. In fact, I went on to express my doubt as to the feasibility of Jesus’ statement.

            Incidentally, unearned love was clearly Jesus’ intent. I repeat, I can’t see me being able to live up to his standard. I remain skeptical of any human agreement, voluntary or otherwise.

          • Thank you for your clarification. Most people who introduce Jesus into a discussion do so for religious reasons.

            I regret that you are skeptical of voluntary human agreement. My personal experience differs from yours.

            Best regards,
            Dennis

        • Is there anything in my post or article that said anything about loving millions?

          Did you bring that concept to this discussion from the teachings of your religion?

          Unearned love seems to be very indiscriminate and irrational to me.

  • ” Individuals relocating means becoming freer personally. That also accelerates the need for governments to implement competitive tax rates and regulation (i.e. less of it) in order to attract residents.”
    ….. except of course, if you live in today’s statist/socialist Greece, where the crypto-stalinist government is doing everything it can to get rid of the best (thinking) people (more than half a million young, university educated professionals have emigrated) and, at the same time, attract and retain the worst low-lives and party sell-swords, that live off the few that can still afford to pay taxes.

  • Mark Foreman

    this is how i live my life. and what a great life it is.

  • georgesilver

    It strikes me that there are a lot of Jesus pushers around, especially in the USA for some strange reason. You would have thought that if such a person existed he would have put all of his ‘bon mots’ and ‘lessons on life’ down in writing while he was still around. Any sensible guy with so much information to impart from God would have insisted in writing it down himself rather than having someone years later after he died do the job for him and risk getting it wrong. At the very least you would have thought one of his buddies would have have thought to himself “that’s a good one… I must scribble it down before I forget it”. No such luck. We are asked to believe a whole lot of twaddle that was written years later.

    • DonRL

      It strikes me that since Jesus came and before there is a lot of peddling false religions like Buddhism, Islam, Hinduism, etc. These area ll made up out of someone’s imagination.
      Jesus is not a purveyor of religion. He is the truth. He did not tell people that they can save themselves by what they did but He told the truth that no one could save themselves by what they do but He could save them by what He would do. He died in the place of all so they could accept Him and the payment He made for them. Jesus also said that no one could get to God except through Him.
      People are still foolishly trying to save themselves buy some religion.
      Have you not heard of the New Testament which is the writing about what Jesus did. HE did not have to write it all down himself. He told HIs disciples that after He died and resurrected the Holy Spirit of God would come and indwell them and the Holy Spirit would bring to remembrance all He had said and done and teach them.
      The leader of religions had to write themselves and have their disciples write things as they happened or rely on their memory of what they had said and done. The did not have God’s available to them to bring what they had done or teach their disciples as Jesus did. They were on their own without God. All those who follow them will also be without God.
      Your ignorance has lead you to the wrong conclusions. You need to read the Bible and ask God to teach you the truth by His Spirit. Then you can know and understand the truth and be saved.
      IF you continue in your delusion and ignorance you will spend eternity without God in Hell. What will you chose? Your eternity depends on your making the right choice. Be wise and chose Jesus.

  • admaris

    What is Shambhala?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shambhala
    also
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agartha
    In esotericism, especially Theosophy, it is a kingdom of alien creatures (demons) with advanced technology living in inner (holow) earth.
    This is also what Hitler and Himmler believed.
    Doesn’t look very secular, does it?

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