Afghan al-Qaeda 'plotting' another 9/11?
The UK Telegraph is reporting that "Al-Qaeda fighters have returned to Afghanistan and will use the country as a base to launch September 11-style attacks on Western cities."
This gem has been launched – like a lead balloon – by the American ambassador to Kabul, Ryan Crocker. The Afghan war is simply not going well for the US and NATO and the rhetoric seems increasingly self-serving.
The idea, apparently, at the State Department is that support for the war can be increased by reminding Americans they're at risk. But after a decade of war and a trillion dollars in military expenditures, weariness has set in.
This is a dominant social theme of sorts, in my view, a fear-based promotion. The power elite that apparently wants to run the world has long regarded Afghanistan as an important piece of the puzzle.
The idea is to frighten the American public into regarding the war, even after all this time, as absolutely necessary to the "safety" of the US regime and its citizens at home and abroad.
In reality, the elites seek to pacify "the navel of the world" – people and places that have rarely come under the full control of outside forces or alien invaders. But if one wants global government, every part of the planet must be pacified. Afghanistan is at the top of the list.
It has been for a century. Yes, Western elites have been at war with the Pashtuns that straddle Afghanistan and Pakistan for well over 100 years now – though Afghanistan is still not pacified. In part this is because of an alliance between the Pashtuns and the Punjabis who run Pakistan.
These are two of the oldest tribes in the world, whose roots are obscured in the mists of history. In the modern era, the Punjabis have provided shelter and support for the fighting Pashtuns (Taliban) while asserting that they are dedicated to removing the same resistance.
The result has been a standoff. The power elite has used the muscle of its transcontinental army – NATO and the US military – to flood Afghanistan with military force. The pretext was that the Taliban had assisted in the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Towers. But the Pashtun/Taliban regime collapsed a decade ago, and the West fights on.
A year ago, the Pentagon announced it had found oil and expensive mineralization in Afghanistan. This was a transparent attempt to explain the West's continued military presence by implying that a triumph there would unlock vast riches that would swell Western treasuries and benefit the Afghan population besides.
But the obviousness of this gambit only points up once more the reality of the not-so-secret ambition of the elites engineering their long-desired "new world order." The issue is not one of "helping" Afghans or even looting that bleeding country's natural resources. These are merely convenient justifications.
The real agenda is one of power and control. The Afghans are scheduled to be brought into the 20th century kicking and screaming – but dragged there nonetheless. Their women are to be formally educated; their men are to serve in Western-controlled civil police entities and in a Western-style military.
The only trouble with this formulation is that the Pashtuns and Punjabis aren't going along with it. These tribes are not natural allies; there's much trouble between them when the threat from the outside world is lessened. But when faced with a common foe, they pull together. In aggregate, they constitute some 300 million people in some of the most rugged (and beautiful) terrain on the planet.
By comparison, Germany before World War II had a population of some 70 million in a country that was perhaps a quarter of the size of the current Afghan/Pak region. It took five years for the "allies" to declare victory over the Germans, and that was within the context of total war, and a wartime economy.
These are figures – and geography – that are never shared with Western populations. Were they made clear, they might concentrate minds mightily as to the enormity of the task that NATO, the US and Britain have set themselves.
And yet one could make the argument as well that at some level Western populations HAVE internalized the magnitude of the "long war" being prosecuted without their full acquiescence. Resistance continues to grow.
According to a recent article posted at CNN, support for the war continues to plunge in America itself. A CNN survey now shows that only a quarter of Americans support the war. There is also support for removing ALL troops before the 2014 deadline.
The results of the survey indicate that for the first time, a majority of those who identify themselves as Republican are opposed to a continuation of the war. Perhaps Crocker was addressing this poll when he made his remarks.
But it won't likely make a difference. The war seems lost. The most recent "rogue" attacks on civilians by allied soldiers, when coupled with the cultural clumsiness of the US and NATO regarding the symbols of Afghan/Islamic culture (burning Korans and the like) are only aggravating anti-American and anti-NATO sentiment.
It doesn't help that the US continues to use poisonous depleted uranium weapons in Afghanistan that are literally (or eventually) injuring millions. Despite efforts at winning over the Afghan and Pakistani public, US and NATO forces are regarded more than ever as unenlightened interlopers. One could argue the West has overstayed its welcome by about a decade.
The longer the West remains in Afghanistan now, the worse it gets. The Taliban have apparently ceased to negotiate with NATO, emboldened by the ham-fisted approach of the allies generally. There doesn't seem to be any movement in Pakistan to shut down the Taliban's so-called safe havens in that country.
And so Western elites will resort to their transparent, fear-based promotions once more. "Our adversaries ... have patience, and they know that we are short on that," Crocker warns. But after a long and bloody decade, the West generally and Americans in particular have lost patience just as the Afghan public has lost patience.
It is true, of course, that Western elites in their crazy dash toward world government have deep resources and secretly operational armies and intelligence-gathering forces. Black ops can create Western false-flags that make it appear as if the Taliban is now starting to attack Europe or America.
But this seems kind of self-defeating to us. The public is likely not going to tolerate the continuance of an endless war even if there are a handful of (potentially arranged) terrorist attacks.
At this time, the larger Western public would probably have to be convinced that there is an organized attempt to make sizeable and regular attacks on Western soil before there would be an up-swell of public opinion to prosecute the war further or more harshly.
Fear-based promotions only go so far, especially in the era of what we call the Internet Reformation. Plenty of people are aware of the increasing futility of the Afghan war based not on mainstream news reports but on what they see and read on the Internet.
The Internet's exposure of the way the world REALLY works is an increasing problem for the elites on many fronts. Questions are routinely raised now as regards numerous elite promotions. Do vaccines really do what they are said to do, or are many of them dangerous? Is the world really warming, or is this just a scare tactic? Is the war on terror really a war, or is it merely a series of false flag events?
In the 20th century, the elites had the control and resources to virtually shut down alternative points of view, certainly in the West. In the 21st century, the elites have lost control of the conversation and won't be getting it back any time soon. Scare tactics and rhetoric intended to whip the public into a frenzy against this or that imagined bogeyman are increasingly less effective today.
People are not so easily herded into any one direction. There are too many outfits focused on truth-telling rather than lies. And this evolution, one way or another, will likely continue. The Internet is a process not an episode.
Posted by samson on 04/04/12 12:42 AM
BORIS: Was delighted to read the intelligent input of a 27 year old. If the
young people are to change this headlong plunge into the SOCIALIST paradigm,
they must organinize immediately, as the political/banker CABAL, are almost
in total control. There is nothing to prevent the president of declaring
martial law, on any pretense, and usher in a police state; Demanding the
allegiance of the armed forces to the COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF;Open the internment
camps,already built by FEMA & HOMELAND SECURITY, for any opposed to the new
REGIME WHICH HAS DISPLACED THE LATE GREAT U.S.A. Open your eyes. Don't think
us oldsters (I'm 87) aren't zealous for the reversal of the FREEDOMS lost to
the REPUBLICAN & DEMOCRAT TRAITORS IN the SENATE, HOUSE, AND WHITEHOUSE during the current & past 50 years. We must have every man & woman of voting
age to turn the political system upside down. Vote the QUISLING BUMS out. We
must do this in NOVEMBER, OR GAME OVER. Help us, or you might trust your luck in CANADA, ITS STILL A GREAT COUNTRY.
Posted by Summer on 04/02/12 02:58 PM
Wow you are something else!
"The most dusgusting thing is that our finest young people are being killed, and for what?"
Your "finest" are killing women and children and torturing people but I suppose because they are brown victims and because you think they are terrorists it's OK?! They are all so fine that they urinate on the dead, fine indeed. On one thing we agree though: "for what?" Nothing. No Afghanis were responsible for 9/11. Although a mindset like yours reveals how ignorant justifications for this neo-colonialist agenda of hate continues.
"If they love Islam so much, why don't they stay in their own countries? Answer THAT question and the whole picture becomes very, very clear."
Maybe because colonialists keep stealing their resources and impoverishing them?!
And if so-called Christians loved their countries/religion so much why did they go to other lands? Not even as migrants but as ruthless colonialists? Why were they "bent" on having Christianity rule the world?!
Answer those questions and the truth becomes very, very clear.
Posted by Darryl on 04/02/12 08:58 AM
This is Obama's war. President Bush kicked the Taliban out of Afghanistan, after which, it was up to the Afghanis to care for their country. Obama stated during the 2008 election that Afghanistan was the real problem.
So, without any knowledge of the history of the Russinas who spent a decade trying to win the country, finslly left with tails between legs. Now, Obama wants to leave without having the "victory" that he claimed was doable. With all of the problems we are having there, we shouldn't spend another day, or dollar there. The most dusgusting thing is that our finest young people are being killed, and for what?
Afghanistan will revert to what it was beforee. Terroists will train in the mountains and it will start all over again to maim western cities and people.
One day our not so brilliant politicians will accept the fact that this whole Middle East is a bastion of terrorists, Muslims bent on having Islam rule the world. Muslims aren't spreading out over the entire world for no reason. If they love Islam so much, why don't they stay in their own countries? Answer THAT question and the whole picture becomes very, very clear.
Posted by seer on 04/01/12 11:46 AM
Every American should read Brig. Gen. Smedley D. Butler's: WAR IS A RACKET.
Posted by kenn on 04/01/12 10:27 AM
The former US Government/US Military are now the UN Government/NATO Military. They will do the bidding of the latter and ignore the former... a point recently made clear to Con-gress by EL Capiton Panetta,,, and I doubt they care much about CNN's polls, or read DB unless they're fishing sedition evidence.
If necessary they will have no problem locking most of the troublemakers up. The laws and regulations are in place for that option also. NDAA anyone. Guantanamo?
They are self aware and self sufficient now with the Drug trade and Central Banks for funding,,, and the impoverished masses for their cannon fodder.
Although I am not an avid religious person I do agree that it will probably take a miracle event such as the Christians Second Coming to overcome this evil that has taken control of this world.
Posted by victorbarney on 04/01/12 09:59 AM
Yes Anthony, and he's in the "White" House! Surely, you MUST realize that both Obama's "Marxism" and "Islam" are(=) "Anti-American" and "Anti-Christ" in philosophy! p.s. Welcome to Adam's world 6,000 years ago! Just saying...
Posted by Bobby7 on 04/01/12 08:04 AM
"The people who mistreat the prisoners will be treated as war criminals." George W. Bush (Globe & Mail March 26, 2003 Worldbeat) - this was when captured U.S. soldiers were shown on T.V., but before U.S. torture at Abu Graib was shown on T.V.
"Allow the President to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so, whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose, and you allow him to make war at pleasure... if, today, he should choose to say he thinks it necessary to invade Canada, to prevent the British from invading us, how could you stop him? You may say to him, 'I see no probability of the British invading us' but he will say to you, 'Be silent; I can see it, if you don't.'" Abraham Lincoln
"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." : Thomas Jefferson
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. As a result of the war, corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavour to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed." : Abraham Lincoln
"We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men." : Woodrow Wilson
"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." : Franklin D. Roosevelt
He who does wrong does wrong against himself. He who acts unjustly acts unjustly to himself, because he makes himself bad: Marcus Aurelius
"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.": Edmund Burke
Posted by borisp on 04/01/12 07:07 AM
"It took five years for the "allies" to declare victory over the Germans, and that was within the context of total war"
How can anyone honestly believe that the U.S. has the intention of winning this un-winnable "war" Guerrilla warfare can only be defeated by destroying the morale of the enemy. The U.S. has no identifiable enemy, no bases or command center, to attack. This mission serves the sole purpose of extracting as much money as possible from the taxpayer in the name of "defense" to enrich the small group of power brokers who stand to gain from the massive amounts of spending required to maintain a fighting force in the region.
In contrast, when the Russians decide to fight a war, the decision is made to completely defeat the enemy. Too many special interests control the decision making process in the U.S. All countries and their politicians are corrupt, however, the national interest of a country is much further reduced in the case of the U.S. In the case of Russia the people know they are living under a totalitarian regime, however, they still believe that those in power are acting in the interest of the country. The U.S. in contrast has been completely sold out to corporate and banking interests. I wonder which is the greater evil. Those living under totalitarian regimes seem to be the most aware of the big picture. My close friends who have immigrated to the U.S. see the picture crystal clear, while the "Americans" live in a state of denial, seeing the this recent downturn as nothing more than a hiccup. I believe there will be a great awaking in the near future, although history shows that it takes a very painful episode for people to pay attention. It's hard to become truly upset and analyze things when food is on the table and the basics of a comfortable life are in full supply. We are in the final stages of our empire in my opinion. However, it has already cost me betting on the timeframe of this collapse. As the old axiom says "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent." In the meantime I will keep myself aware and informed of what's happening around me. The daily bell has become a daily shot of adrenaline for my mind. I can only prepare and educate myself at this point being only 27 and not having the means to expatriate. I currently work in a country club making a fairly good living tending bar. In addition to a good income stream I am able to talk with very wealthy individuals and hear their perspective on our situation as a nation. I have had many different conversations on this topic often costing me tips for being perceived as a traitor for wanting to expatriate. In my conversations the very wealthy self starter businessmen have been making backup plans if TSHTF. Most of them simply have another home in the caribbean if things get to bad. I suspect it's all mostly talk as most of them focus primarily on Obama's reelection and not the bigger picture "fed reserve" Others are in a state of complete denial thinking that the "good old days" are right around the corner and that we are merely in a slump. These are usually the old timers who believe every headline they read on the news. I have tried to seize every opportunity I can get gaining a fresh perspective on our economy, country, politics, and so forth. I figure it makes sense speaking with those who have accomplished much in their lives. What amazes me the most when speaking with doctors, lawyer, CEO's, business owners, and so forth is their financial illiteracy. When you reduce the scale of the debts and spending to a household budget the problems we face become instantly apparent. However, this simple exercise proves to be far to simple. It's almost as though people are looking for some complex formula to explain the way things work. My father is a money manger who handles a considerable amount of money. He absolutely refuses to dig even a bit below the surface to see how the system works. When I confront him about how monetary inflation ultimately leads to price inflation as well as many other points he completely turns off and becomes aggressive. I guess this is an example of not interfering with the gravy train while the gravy is still flowing. This is a man who calculates and analyzes everything else. Dinosaurs like him are on their way out when reality kicks in. Diversify, conservative investments, all B.S. I feel that I am preaching to the choir on the Daily Bell however I think it benefits everyone to hear different perspectives. I can only hope that my generation realizes the true source of our problems and does not empower the same group of plutocrats to control their lives after the economy collapses. However, it is hard to be optimistic when you realize how easily manipulated the average person is. Sorry for ranting, I've been lurking on the daily bell for quite a while without contributing so I felt a bit guilty. I hope this was worth the read. -Boris
Posted by Abu Aardvark on 04/01/12 06:24 AM
'Even Homer Simpson got it, when I told him ... Homer replied, "DUH"!'
So you're a family member of sorts? Say no more!
Posted by Abu Aardvark on 04/01/12 06:11 AM
AW: 'The Internet's exposure of the way the world REALLY works is an increasing problem for the elites on many fronts.'
Indeed. Just take a look at the best rated reader comments below the Telegraph article.
Here's but one example:
'Before his untimely death, our Foreign Secretary Robin Cook stated that Al Qaeda is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mercenaries and arms smugglers used by the CIA.
He resigned because he didn't support war through deception.
As to prior knowledge of the attacks, 'put options' were placed on the airlines involved and Deutsche Bank are nuts deep in it... but were not investigated due to them "Not being responsible for the attacks."
As for the people living on the same street as the alleged hijackers, who also set up filming prior to both attacks and were seen celebrating and taking photos with the towers in the background. They failed polygraph testing and admitted being members of a foreign national security agency.
They were allowed to escape to their country due to visa 'irregularities' on the orders of Micheal Chertoff.'
Click to view link
Posted by amanfromMars on 04/01/12 05:47 AM
April 1st, Lucidles, and the BBC government show the UK their sense of humour? ... ... Click to view link ... ... or is it advice to all that they have lost the plot and are getting really desperate?
Posted by Lucidles on 04/01/12 03:30 AM
We have ALL got to dare. They can't lock us all up. Can they? :-) Great post.
Posted by Lucidles on 04/01/12 03:25 AM
For sure and Isn't it about time western governments packed in all this al-Qaeda nonsense. Nobody believes it. F--k me half the western world doesn't even believe they were responsible for 9-11. Great comment Lloyd.
Posted by mantis on 04/01/12 12:48 AM
Another excellent article. So glad I found this website
Posted by Agent Pete 8 on 03/31/12 11:26 PM
More fair words thanks, Anthony Wile.
Does this clip show the intended effect of such memes?
Posted by samson on 03/31/12 11:00 PM
What a bunch of BULL SHIZA. We have invaded their land, killed their children, tried to change A 3000 YEAR CULTURE. You can't expect them to rollover and say, YES MASTER. They never have, they never will. They will
fight til the last man. U.S. & NATO should get out NOW. The only way they can be defeated is use poison gas, germs, or nuclear weapons. Is the West
GODLESS enough to annilhilate them to steal their treasures?
Posted by LloydMiller on 03/31/12 08:11 PM
No, the growing power of Islam is the blowback result of the Rockefeller / Big Oil / Saudi alliance, re-cycling of petro-dollars from OPEC, supported by restrictions on US oil exploration/ drilling under the color of environmental and global warming propaganda. Of course, the answer to Islamic power is to smash OPEC via alternative production, not fighting Islamic terrorist, by Islamic terrorist. . . But the Rockefeller / OPEC camarilla is apparently to deeply embedded in its strategy to shift gears. . . they must be forced by competing factions of the elite.
Posted by Summer on 03/31/12 08:06 PM
AW: Their women are to be formally educated; their men are to serve in Western-controlled civil police entities and in a Western-style military.
The UN agenda for cultural neutralisation rolls on. More career women, fewer mothers. More slaves to money rather than to higher aims. More education made compulsory up to specified ages means a lower population. David Rockefeller will be happy. Yipee. Click to view link
AW: The most recent "rogue" attacks on civilians by allied soldiers, when coupled with the cultural clumsiness of the US and NATO regarding the symbols of Afghan/Islamic culture (burning Korans and the like) are only aggravating anti-American and anti-NATO sentiment.
'Cultural clumsiness' Yes. I suppose a Westerner who cares not for religion or an affront to honour could understand Quran burning as being akin to burning one's mother.
AW: It doesn't help that the US continues to use poisonous depleted uranium weapons in Afghanistan that are literally (or eventually) injuring millions.
This is what really disgusts me. It is evidence of the fact that this war is malicious and hate-filled. It's clearly not just about 'winning' it's about perpetual infliction of pain and suffering.
Who is responsible for this, just elites or certain army members? There is clearly an ideology of hatred and racism towards 'Islamic' peoples. Why? When they don't hate them they just want to be left alone!
Posted by nithsdale on 03/31/12 07:15 PM
Yo Bobby7. Mr. Silverstein is not from the anglosphere but is the architect of our new war? Wow!
Wars are manufactured by govenments that have the support of their people. War wipes all budgets off the books and eliminates great deficits that get lost in War's entrails.. Conflicts are the province of governments, the people who fight them and the elites, Kings et al never are able to control anything. That's why history recalls so many have lost their thrones, even their heads and lives,so how can we go on blaming them for everything! The people have more hands in those troughs and not just because they are so many, but because they have so many personal objectives.
We will never stop having adventures with war, budgets so long as one person can find a place on the map that few can get to, let alone even know it is there, and then whup up a group to "explore" it, turn on thousands to urge even more adventures in that unknown area. That is the history of the USA, all of us!
Who then is responsible for these adventures? It is always an "unknown", an instant patriot, often from those distant people, who gets dressed up and proclaims the people have won! Americans applaud these dramas continually. It is so popular that smart Rock Stars now have their own crusades, and "charitable funds", all in the name of a distant group and an even more "distant" land.
of theOur governments take interest in these developments, particularly if they see money coming in. Governments love these adventurers, their "fictional" places needing enlightenment. They "co-operate", manage to conjure up a "native" found working with our givernment, who is installed as leader with great acclaim. We go whole hog with support, millions, now billions of bucks and watch our new hero go native, go against us later! This continual scenario should suggest to us that nothing is in control... ... really! The real probem is there are just too many among us itching to have new adventures and to Hell with the consequences!
America, the world we have created, is mired hopelessly in cheap penny thrillers, including elitist thinkers, not just banksters, To see 'direction" in every room where a cadre of thrill seekers are in charge, is as plausible as saying all art, music, drama, you name it, are controlled by the same cadre. 7 billion people will march to one man's drum, one corps drumbeat! I don't think so! Like the millions who play at sports from their couches, so they play in adventures all over the Globe!
Posted by EdwardUlyssesCate on 03/31/12 02:39 PM
Guess it's time to start watching the options trade again.
If you see an outstanding jump in anything,
perhaps you'll stay home a few days.