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Here’s How to Deal With Overpopulation
By Joe Jarvis - November 07, 2017

Anytime someone in an elite or powerful position starts saying the population is too high we should get worried. You can bet it isn’t their friends and family that they are talking about overpopulating the Earth.

Of course, they are talking about people whom they consider peasants. Definitely me, and probably you too. We are the ones crowding this little planet, and we are the ones whose carbon footprint they say is a problem. Nevermind that the elites burn more carbon flying to their global warming conferences than I use in a year.

But these elites are just so amazingly unimaginative. Either that or they just don’t want to find a solution to accommodate Earth’s growing population.

Prince William and his wife Kate are just months away from adding a third child to their family. Yet “voluntary family limitation” was his best suggestion for tackling a growing population. He specifically mentioned the fact that Africa’s population would double in the next 25 years.

You might expect a Prince to lack imagination on how to solve big problems. But shouldn’t the famous “genius” Steven Hawking be better at it? His best suggestion is to colonize other planets, which seems like quite the undertaking. After all, he predicts armageddon within 100 years, which seems like space colonization is a race against the clock. He certainly cloaks his predictions in a healthy dose of apocalyptic doom.

I believe we have reached the point of no return. Our Earth is becoming too small for us, global population is increasing at an alarming rate and we are in danger of self-destructing.

Let’s get one fact straight. The rate at which Earth’s population is growing has slowed. Yes, the population itself is still increasing, but as the global standard of living rises, birth rates decrease.

Earth’s population is no longer growing exponentially. Most indicators suggest that the population of Earth will level out around 11 billion people sometime around 2100.

And if everything else stayed the same, that would make some places quite crowded and unpleasant. I left Massachusetts in part because the population density is already too high. It was getting crowded and I like my space.

But doesn’t that suggest an alternative right there? I was able to move to a mini-farm in the middle of nowhere because I work online. As more people work remotely, proximity to a city will be much less important. Advances in transportation should have the same effect.

The other thing that annoys me is the utter lack of creativity and innovation that the elite exhibit when making these dire predictions. Space, they think, is the final frontier. Their imaginations run wild and skip right over the massive amount of space right under our noses.

Dig

Singapore is familiar with overpopulation. Because of innovative government, the island nation is a popular destination for emigrants. Singapore has expanded the island by importing massive amounts of sand to grow the land base. But they have also started digging.

Underneath Singapore, at varying depths, are pedestrian walkways, infrastructure service tunnels, public transportation, and an ammunition storage facility the size of 400 football fields. There is even an oil storage cavern the height of a nine-story building which can store 580 Olympic size swimming pools worth of oil.

Singapore isn’t stopping here.

The creative minds in our local government have recently launched an R&D programme called The Land and Liveability National Innovation Challenge. The challenged statement is to “create new space cost-effectively and optimise the use of space to sustain Singapore’s long-term growth and resilience”. One of its many focuses is to create underground space for better urban living.

See where a little ingenuity can get you?

Desert

About 95% of the 7.3 billion people on Earth live on 10% of the land mass. Less than half of the Earth’s landmass is used by humans, whether for agriculture, industry, or homes. That leaves plenty of space to expand, even without going underground.

But 33% of the land on Earth is a desert. Doesn’t it seem easier to transform a desert into inhabitable land than to establish an Earthling colony on the moon or Mars? At least deserts have breathable air.

And it may not actually be that hard to make a desert into an oasis.

Stories abound about people in remote places singlehandedly reforesting acres upon acres of land.

One man in India planted a tree a day for 35 years, restoring over 1,300 acres of desert into a forest.

One of the founders of Church’s Chicken used his money to buy dry rocky land in Texas. Seven wells drilled hundreds of feet deep turned up no water. But by simply planting the right kind of native grass, rains started to percolate into the natural reservoir beneath. 50 years later, springs abound, wildlife has returned, and the ranch is a lush paradise.

A couple in Northern China planted 67 hectares of saxaul trees to stop the desertification.

A man in Africa named Yacouba planted 30 acres with different trees to revive an old farming practice that allows him to grow food in harsh desert conditions.

The best part about all these stories is that they involve individual action. These people didn’t need government grants and scientific studies. They didn’t have to limit anyone’s freedom, and they didn’t have to convince a majority to vote their way. They simply started doing what they knew would help them and their children live in a better environment.

That makes me feel better about the food forest that I am growing on 10 sandy acres of the Florida panhandle. Over a dozen trees and many smaller plants have been added to the sandy soil, along with composted leaves, sticks, and goat manure. The reason we do it is to provide fresh fruit for us. A fortunate byproduct is restoring a sandy sunbleached pasture.

And all this is while plenty of good unused land still exists on Earth. These efforts will only accelerate as the need arises, with even more productive methods.

Prince William is worried about Africa’s population doubling. But Africa has about 0 people living in the Sahara desert at present. The land that Yacouba transformed from desert to forest sits on the edge of the Sahara desert.

Desalination of seawater provides another promising tool to turn deserts green. But the oceans themselves are yet another untapped resource for a growing population.

Float

About 71% of the Earth is made up of oceans.

Seasteaders have been the butt of jokes for quite some time. But despite the adversity, dedicated people have soldiered on. Seasteading promises places to live, new sources of sustainable food, and positive impacts on the environment. To learn more, check out the book review I wrote on Joe Quirk’s book Seasteading: How Floating Islands Will Enrich the Poor, Cure the Sick, and Liberate Humanity from Politicians.

So the elite can have a field day with their doom and gloom predictions. But smart individuals know better. We don’t need drastic and genocidal policies to reduce Earth’s population. And we don’t even need to look as far as outer space. Individual action can solve any problems that come from an increasing population.

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  • Martin Fox

    The trouble with all the individualistic solutions described below is they go against the UN Agenda 21 plan to get us out of the country and suburbia and collect us all into urban hives. The better to control you my dear.

    Be independent! Live outside the dome! Not following the master plan! To the FEMA camp for you my good fellow!

    Notice the innovative large scale solution from the most market based capitalistic city/state on the planet.

  • Earn nest

    There is room for more but should we use it for that? The future holds so very much promise and we do seem to be at an inflection point. All over the earth something dear is disappearing and the replacement isn’t typically reforestation.

  • lulu

    Bravo. We surely can not count on elites or the governments they control. We the people are our only hope.

    • dauden

      No. Christ is our only hope! The good King James Bible told us in the epistles of Paul (written for today) that we humans are nothing special because of our inherent sin problem. This puts the rich and poor in the same category according to our Creator. However, the solution is not in religion but trusting in the message: “But God commended His love toward us, in that, while we were yet
      sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his
      blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if, when we were
      enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more,
      being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.” Romans 5

      • lulu

        I wonder how long we have to wait.

        • Number 6

          Well if 911 was the beast part of the phoney fake show, then the Zionist messiah will probably be skipping through the golden gate to deliver them the world some time in 2030 watch out San Francisco 😉

          • dauden

            You’re referring to prophecy. If you had any understanding of Biblical things you would have discovered we are NOT living in prophetic times now but rather in grace. God cannot judge the world while He is offering grace to all (without works) at the same time. This is why I love this site. The Bible, rightly divided (2 Tim 2:15 kjv), falls into the lap of libertarian thinking of how to live with each other but also how to live forever. But as stated, one must know how to discern the mystery (for those who have ears to hear) from prophecy. Most of Christianity does not which is why there is so much confusion and denominationalism. You can follow the leader (man) or “study to shew thyself approved….” Romans thru Philemon in the only non-copyrighted Bible out there…the Authorized King James.

          • Number 6

            You do realise that all religion is just an allegory of the sun don’t you ? Its sun worship personified, the three Kings otherwise known as Orion’s belt which aligns with Sirius otherwise know as the “DOG” star on the Winter solstice, to the point at which “THE SUN” will rise on the horizon after the longest night and start to rise again in the sky leading to spring, which happens on and around the 25th of december.

            Jesus and his twelve disciples, 12 astrological ages, 12 months of the year, 12 hours on a clock. Torah the golden bull the age of Taurus. The old testament, Mosses the shepherd, the age of Aries the ram. Jesus and the fishermen and feeding the five thousand with 5 fish the Ichthys, the age of Pisces. Astrological cycles lasts 26,000 years “GOD” 7+15+4 = 26, 26 letters of the alphabet 26,000 / 12 ages = 2160 years per age the next age is the age of Aquarius. Yeah but like you said I have no Understanding.

          • dauden

            What you have studied is mythology, mysticism, numerology, gnosticism, astrology and a host of historical, irrelevant data. What you have not studied is the Bible, rightly divided, knowing what God is doing today as opposed to times past. Do you really think you know what is important? That the God who made mankind would have us filled with knowledge that cannot bring understanding nor wisdom? You are puffed up with gross boastings that God abhors. Jesus Christ, who is the 2nd person of the Godhead came into this world and humbled himself unto death. Beat that! Meekness, gentleness, kindness, charity, goodness, mercy…..these are the qualities He respects after you have believed the message of his finished work at the cross. Good luck when you stand before Him and spill out these numbers trying to impress Him. Rather, trust Him for your salvation and inherit the glory he would give you when all is finished.

          • Number 6

            Beat what you have said nothing but a load of generic nonsense, You talk about knowledge and wisdom thats a joke when you completely ignore basic logic and facts when it doesn’t fit your narrative. Heres one not that you’ll pay any attention because your arrogant and stupid, sum the letters of the following words, you do know how to add up I take it ?

            Jesus 10+5+19+21+19 = 74
            Joshua 10+15+19+8+21+1 = 74
            Y’shua 25+19+8+21+1 = 74
            Lucifer 12+21+3+9+6+5+18 = 74
            Satans 19+1+20+1+14+19 = 74
            Occult 15+3+3+21+12+20 = 74
            muhammad 13+21+8+1+13+13+1+4 = 74
            Messiah 13+5+19+19+9+1+8 = 74
            Jewish 10+5+23+9+19+8 = 74
            Masonic 13+1+19=15+14+9+3 = 74

            Gospel 8+15+19+16+5+12 = 74
            Cross 3+18+15+19+19 = 74
            Menorah 13+5+14+15+18+1+8 = 74

            Gematria 7+5+13+1+20+18+9+1 = 74
            English 5+14+7+12+9+19+8 = 74

            You keep shouting about the king James Bible it was written by numerologists along with the rest of the English Language which was established at exactly the same time the translation was taking place.

            King James Bible (11+9+14+7) + (10+1+13+5+19) + (2+9+2+12+5) = 119
            Star of David (19+20+1+18) + (15+6) + (4+1+22+9+4) = 119

            Yeah thats right 911 backwards The synagog of Satan wrote your favourite book what do you think God will make of that ?

          • dauden

            Numerology won’t save you. And your antics of personal attack diminish your character. You speak of God but don’t believe He communicated His word to us to study and prove by comparing scripture with scripture. You tout numbers like there’s some power in it that if you search deeply enough you will find the answers. You’re spinning your wheels.
            We can quit now as, obviously, your faith is in numbers not revealed truth from the preserved King James. Don’t want to continue to stir up your anger and bitterness against a book you’ve never taken the time to study. Of course, it would all be foolishness to you anyway since you do not have faith that Christ has provided salvation freely to you by His grace, unmerited and undeserved. But hey, that’s what grace is!

          • Number 6

            See I told you were too arrogant to pay any attention, so let me get this straight you are going around websites which question government telling everyone to do nothing about their slavery but instead sit around waiting for Jesus to save them. Reading from a book which preaches slavery to so called gods chosen people, the same people who own the banks and the media And those who question your interpretation of life are going to hell and their ability to do basic maths and rationalise the results will not save them from your wrath, which you claim to be the word of God, your on the wrong website mate !

          • dauden

            Number 6, not to be on the defensive, but nothing of what you stated above is even remotely true. I read very few sites online, the Daily Bell being one of my few favorites. I not only question government, I find it destructive but hard to eradicate. On the extreme contrary, I implore folks to be free by hearing the gospel of Christ and trusting in it. Where’s the slavery? I don’t belong to any religious group on earth, don’t even go to church. God’s chosen people were relevant in times past and again in the ages to come ; today, in this parenthetical time frame, we are living in the revelation of the mystery given to the Apostle Paul in 13 books of the Bible, not 66. Some non-Jews own banks, but who cares? You brought up hell, not I. I’m not angry at anyone, not even you 🙂 I live in peace mate!

          • Number 6

            You say none of what I said is true and then you go onto confirm it is in fact true by repeating it

            Quote Me “you are going around websites which question government telling everyone to do nothing about their slavery but instead sit around waiting for Jesus to save them”

            Quote You “I not only question government, I find it destructive but hard to eradicate. On the extreme contrary, I implore folks to be free by hearing the gospel of Christ and trusting in it”

            Yes that sounds exactly like sitting around waiting for Jesus, which is precisely the founding principle of your Religion.

            And no you didn’t expressly call it “hell” by name but you most certainly implied it

            Quote “Good luck when you stand before Him and spill out these numbers trying to impress Him”

            Quote “Numerology won’t save you”

            Does your god give you special dispensation to LIE and deceive or something ? And to say this is one of your favourite websites and then ask “What slavery’ Your having a laugh mate. Anyway good luck facing your God with the blood of Palestinian children (genuine semites) on your hands as you tell the world that they “The gentiles” must bow down to and serve the chosen people and deliver them the sate of Israel, Which is the cornerstone of your favourite book and the whole point of the book of revelation, that god will deliver the world to his “chosen people” and cast those who don’t wish to bow down before him or even question his decision (which is really your decision) into hell. What a wonderful person you are for believing and propagating such supremacist nonsense.

          • dauden

            Okay, I’m gonna let you have the last word since you surely will. My last comment here is that you don’t understand what God is doing because you don’t study the Bible. You merely pick concepts out of context and fit them into the ideology you want people to have who call themselves Bible students. Any person “sitting around waiting for Jesus” would be an ignorant fool. I have 4 children ages 15 to 24 and a husband of 28 years. I live in the country, grow much of my own food and medicine, have an artisan bread baking business with a communal oven outside that the community uses. My ancient grain grows locally and is milled on my property. I home schooled to keep my kids out of the propaganda houses and we have a very busy restaurant downtown San Antonio (biga.com). I’m not “sitting around”! I don’t know what you find so offensive about me believing something that you can freely brush off, which most people do who don’t wish to engage. For some reason you wish to. I’m signing off though because I don’t really think this is the forum for our discussion. Saronara!

        • dauden

          Until His body is filled up with others who will believe the message. Why don’t you share it so we can get out of here 🙂

          “Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is
          behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake,
          which is the church:
          25Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
          26Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
          27To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory”, Colossians Ch 1

  • Lou

    but as the global standard of living rises, birth rates decrease.”

    Yes this is the KEY. Given the trajectory we are on overpopulation will
    cease to be a problem in a generation or two GIVEN AN HONEST WORLD. We
    do not live in an honest world. We live in a world where super rich very
    powerful totally IMMORAL people make ALL the major decisions.

    “Two patients were told to consider euthanasia because their insurance
    companies wouldn’t cover their life-saving treatment, a doctor claims.
    As more states legalize euthanasia for the terminally ill, critics fear
    that this last resort option will become a first choice treatment method
    driven by profit-chasing insurance companies and financially-strained
    families.” Treatment of Choice Suicide? Note the entire Legal and
    Governmental Structures are pricing LIFE out of reach for all but the
    special few; this can only continue with your SILENCE

    • jefflorida
      • Lou

        Yes with the technology we have today and “leaders” who do not mind slaughtering billions of human beings too many people is no problem.

        “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.” CNN Founder Ted Turner….Note
        there are 7.3 billion people on this good earth currently. The USA contains about 330 million so I guess the Neo Cons could murder the REST of the WORLD if that is OK with Ted.

  • Dimitri Ledkovsky

    Sounds very elite to me since of the 7.3 billion on this planet I’ll bet that comfortably 6 billion don’t know exactly what it is that you’re yammering about.

    • Bombaste Von Hohenheim

      Darwin anyone?

  • JRX

    Great stories about people planting trees, like in the video. Thanks.

    But Steven Hawking? Come on, you can’t seriously believe he’s for real.

  • Praetor

    I know a place where you could buy 280 acres for $190 an acres,in America. Water 200/250 ft down. What over population.!!!

    • Sheryl Ann

      I would love if you would let me know where that is. I am so done with city living. It really doesn’t matter where or the weather conditions. You take the the positives & negatives alike. Lots of space means less intrusion. I really wouldn’t even care what condition the land is in, just as long it isn’t polluted in a way that would make it unreasonably dangerous to live there. For the most part, with proper tending, nature heals itself.

      • Praetor

        Oregoncountryrealty.com

        • davidnrobyn

          Or you can check out really nice pasture/timber in western NY State at ccbrmls.com for around $1500/acre. 20 acres should make a nice homestead within easy reach of small towns/villages with shopping and services. And the water is way closer than 200-250 ft down.

  • Licia

    Yeah, Walmart needs ever more consumers after all

  • Ern Chew

    A good read, though i wonder if changing deserts into forests will alter the climate such that somewhere else will get less rain?

  • Don Duncan

    I have been researching the permaculture movement and learned more details about organic growing and a healthy diet in the my 74th year than all the years before. This from an organic gardener from 1956. Thank you internet.

    1. If it’s common knowledge/practice, it’s wrong.
    2. If it’s taught in the Ag colleges, it’s wrong.
    3. If it’s the commercial norm (can’t get govt. funding otherwise), it’s wrong.
    4. If you want govt. funding, you’re setting yourself up to fail.
    5. Do your research, don’t ask an “expert”. There is a lot to think about and a lot of answers are specific to the area. But all comes from universal laws of growing. Learn those and then adapt them to your land.
    All your life you will be student/teacher/student. It’s the never-ending thrill of life to learn the most from the biggest mistakes or setbacks. Lose can be turned into gain, it you try.

  • DebL.

    Tell you what, elites…you don’t like living with us little people because you’re so rich and big, right? Plus we little folks cause all the global warming. So do I have a solution for you hypocrites–we little folks will round you up, put you on trial for crimes against humanity and wildlife (such as wearing million dollar furs of endangered species and having hunting parties of animals that are going extinct because you can), then send you to a wonderful and COOL place where you can have parties with yourselves (and you can bring your butt-wipers with you and the rest of your servants, okay? Isn’t that nice of us little folks?)…but you can’t hunt wildlife…you know, penguins. The name of that COOL place we’ll send you? ANTARCTICA! You’ll have an entire continent to yourselves and no one but armed guards (making sure you don’t extinguish penguins) to bother you. And you’ll be doing all the rest of us a favor by LEAVING US ALONE YOU PSYCHOPATHS!

    • dauden

      Maybe they will move south, when they get there, in every direction and tell us what is beyond those 200 ft walls of ice holding the oceans in? Or maybe they’ll just begin using the resources they’ve lusted after for themselves since signing the Antarctic Treaty decades ago. Don’t bother sending me those debunking theories please. Done my research! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8skhK2tMpjk

  • Kenneth_Brown

    It’s not acreage that’s the problem. It’s ready access to fresh water, housing, transportation and the myriad of other things that many people want. How many people want to relocate to politically unstable areas of South America and Africa. Are they ready to suffer lung problems in China’s larger cities? Do they want to trod through the cow patties in India? No, they want a the standard of living enjoyed in the US and Europe and the Earth can only sustain a certain number of people at that level even if it can provide bare subsistence to several times the current world population.

    The goal is not to populate the Earth with as many people as possible. It’s better to aim for the highest quality of life.

    Hawking? It’s not likely that the population could be reduced fast enough by catapulting people into space. More than could be sent are born every day and it takes too much energy for that solution to make sense.

  • Bombaste Von Hohenheim

    All the solutions that you offer are great, but you seem to forget one important factor: modern population is also very lazy and want everything for free. Your solutions are based on work……. so do you seriously think that an antifa or a socialist will go for that?

    • r2bzjudge

      Modern population is not very lazy and want everything for free. Every week on Shark Tank people appear on the show, who are working hard to start a business and make it flourish. People are working 2 and 3 jobs to make ends meet.

      • Bombaste Von Hohenheim

        Really, I had to move to Europe for personal reasons 9 years ago, I’m still looking for people who wants to work. Maybe it’s different in some places and for some people, but overall masses (look at the antifas seriously) want things for free.

  • Using a one-time windfall of concentrated energy stores (fossil fuels) we have been able to push the carrying capacity of the planet repeatedly, but this is in no way sustainable and has likely pushed us well past the point of no return. The end result will, in all likelihood, be the ecological phenomena experienced by every other biological species that overshoots its natural carrying capacity: collapse.
    I believe it is wishful thinking in the extreme to think we can avoid the natural consequences of overpopulation ‘in a generation or two’ (and all the concomitant negative repercussions of our rapid growth of the past couple of centuries) because population trends have been decreasing due to ‘economic growth’; especially because this ‘growth’ has been ‘sustained’ by the very fossil fuels we have grown dependent upon and leveraged debt that is about to implode as well.
    None of us can, with any accuracy whatsoever, predict the future. And trends have a way of reversing themselves quickly and without much warning–to say little of Black Swan events that can create all sorts of unexpected consequences. But if pre/history and biology/ecology are in any way lessons for the future, it will be one that is far more chaotic than the nice, smooth transition cornucopian and techno-narcissists envision.
    We do not understand the exponential function very well and its impacts upon population and the all important foundation of life–energy. This is key as the late Dr. Albert Bartlett explains in this presentation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI1C9DyIi_8

  • I’m sorry, but I think it inevitable that government authorities will deal with population growth, and they will do so in a rather authoritarian way.

    Eventually, you will require a license to have a child.

    In non-advanced countries – the ones with the serious population growth rates – such a regime will be required of governments who expect to continue receiving assistance.

    Licensing parenthood will help a whole range of problem – overpopulation, pollution, poverty, overcrowded schools, poor parenting, reducing crime, and it will serve the interests of the national security state which has descended on places like America.

    When something holds that much promise, it is sure to happen sooner or later.

  • Sink Chicken

    Are there people in this world who continue to bear children that they cannot feed?
    Is this activity irresponsible and a determent to the planet’s environment? Why are people from developed countries considered to be responsible for the well being of irresponsible over breeders? Why do they enable this activity? Why not make it a condition of food aid to accept birth control? Wouldn’t that be a more humane way to control population than famine, disease or war?

  • jarhead1969

    On the contrary – have you got a calculator.
    All the people in the world, near 7 billion, can fit into half the area of Jacksonville, Florida, standing up without touching one another.
    All the cities, farms, towns, and all man made areas, comprise only 1% of the worlds livable land surface.
    The world produces enough food to feed six times the world present population. Although famine, war, disease rotates in various countries and areas – still over six ties our present population in food production. Food production, if done on some European models, using just existing farmland, can produce enough food to feed over 20 times that amount.
    We have enough energy in coal and petroleum to supply the present population for the next 200-400 years.
    Tesla – in the 1930’s, witnessed by hundreds of engineers, journalists and people: He went to the corner hardware store, purchased some vacuum tubes and some electrical supplies, put them together in a shoe box size container, with two metal rods protruding – he then installed an “electric motor” in a car, ran two wires through the firewall to the two metal rods – connected them – pressed the rods down and said – “now we have power”. Tesla said we can run our homes and industry with free power and electricity forever – that it comes from the earths gravitational energy and the suns energy. The press immediately downplayed the event and called it “sorcery” etc to bury the event.
    If one does some real and honest research, eliminating bias, one finds that the world has enough energy, food, and living space to accommodate over 100 times our present population. You can place the whole present population into the state of Texas, which each family having a home on 1/4 acre, with enough land left over for farms, community parks and recreation, and business. Imagine !!!!!!

    • You speak of real, honest, unbiased research but then throw out numbers that don’t seem to be supported by it.
      For example, the World Bank estimates that there is currently less than 1/2 acre of arable land per person on the planet (https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/AG.LND.ARBL.HA.PC), and it is estimated that each person requires approximately one acre of land for food production (http://www.farmlandlp.com/2012/01/one-acre-feeds-a-person/). Already, with just these two data points, your assertion that the planet could support more than 700 Billion humans is easily debunked.
      And this doesn’t even take into account the fact that our current industrial agriculture is significantly supported by a finite resource (fossil fuels–yes, it is finite and experiencing declining marginal returns as evidenced by the need to access more marginal sources).

      • r2bzjudge

        Vertical farming. Saw video of a factory farm, in a building, with stacks of trays growing plants under LED lights. That represents year round farming in a limited horizontal acreage.

        • It is no panacea. Still requires lots of energy.

      • jarhead1969

        Yep honest and unbiased – you think the World Bank is honest and unbiased – lololol – figure it out yourself – I did and it works. That’s the problem the sheeple believe all that the World Bank and governments tell them………….lolol

        • Only time will tell which narrative is correct and ‘facts’ can be interpreted in any number of ways. My bet, however, is that humans have well surpassed the natural carrying capacity of the planet and it’s just a matter of time until the wheels fall off. For the most part our species is incapable of understanding the speed at which exponential growth can overwhelm a system and therefore it is much easier to let cognitive dissonance control our beliefs and just keep on with business as usual, denying the cliff directly ahead.

    • dauden

      correction….”electromagnetic” energy. not “gravitational” – a theoretical made up word by the Newtonian masonic good ole boys

      • jarhead1969

        You might be right about the terms, however, Tesla mentioned that the Sun and something akin to gravitation were the sources, not electromagnetic.

      • Number 6

        Newtons Laws of Gravity are sound but the separate terminology of “Gravity” and not as you correctly describe it “Electromagnetism” is false and Einstein’s ludicrous explanation of “Gravity” ie that things roll down hill in space time is insulting to everyones intelligence.

  • Wheezwiz

    There seems to be no factual evidence that the world is overpopulated, only opinion that it is so ? Food prices at the commodity level are mostly at, or near, record lows, indicating a surplus of food ?

    There is certainly no shortage of land except where “governments” have established zoning rules, or “laws”.

    Government subsidies for more children, and tax breaks to have more kids, encourage the same. Ridding ourselves of socialist dogma, such as free this or that, could also discourage having more children, especially if the costs of the kids were bourne directly by the parents. But do not expect to be re-elected if you are a politician…..

  • dauden

    The Bamberger Ranch is just 30 minutes from me! I’ve been to it and love the restoration of life there. We ourselves have been laying grass seed and trees into our rocky limestone cliff above the Blanco river. After 20 years, our place looks nothing like it did when we bought it……and nothing like the properties around us, some which have owners with huge tractors to keep their grass from growing! Across from us is an area approximately 6 acres where it is mowed down to have that “pristine” look to it. I asked them if I could grow some ancient wheat there, doing all the labor, so I could harvest the local grain for my growing artisan bread business. No, was the answer. Fortunately, we have been growing heirloom grains now in the northern plains of Texas and, for several years now, putting it on the table.

    • That’s great to hear! Too bad they wouldn’t let you grow there. And now I want some of your bread.

  • Lancifer Wildwood

    Here is a great, short doc on ‘Greening the Desert’.
    One of my mentors, mentors!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xcZS7arcgk&t=3s

  • Number 6

    Bravo Great article pointing out that its the hypocritical “chosen” elite who are behind most of the population obsessed organisations and governments. But Lets have a look at the current claimed population figures.

    They say the worlds population has increased by 1 billion from 6 billion to 7 billion in just the last 10 years, that would mean the worlds population has increased by 16.6% in just 10 years, lets suppose the average person lives to 80 years of age,

    So 1.66% x 80 = 132.8% + the replacement rate of 100% = 232.8% Meaning that during their life time every woman on the planet would have to have had 4.56 children which is absolutely f***ing ludicrous. Even their own official birthrates per country don’t match up, they claim the country with the highest birthrate is Niger with 46% the lowest Monaco with 6.72% and according to the world bank the average fertility rate for women as of 2015 is 2.453 which is 22.5% quite a way off 132.8% isn’t it and that doesn’t even include death rates so how on earth could the worlds population have increased by 16.6% in ten years or to put in another way 132% in 80 years ????

    And if you have a look at and the world clock graph, which shows the worlds population over the past 2000 years there is steady and logical population growth of about 2.2 children per couple, but then suddenly it starts to creep up almost at exactly the same time as the Eugenics movement started hmmmmmmm the graph is now even worse that AL Gores Hockey stick, its a ludicrous, alarmist and quite frankly impossible vertical spike which as anyone who extrapolates data from charts for a living will attest equals utter Bulls*** !

    World population figures

    http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

    Fertility rates world bank

    https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN

    Birth rates Per country

    https://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=25

    • Number 6

      You’ll find the ludicrous AL Gore-esque population growth chart if you scroll down a little on the first link. I also like the way the site pretends to be retrieving data for a couple of seconds as if its querying every countries up to the minutes birth and death rates, ie it must be legit look see its calculation it, its not just an arbitrary made up figure, which of course it is !

    • That is interesting. Thanks for bringing it up! Good info.

      • Number 6

        Thanks just to make it a little clearer the average world wide life expectancy is 71.4 years so if we take the alleged population figures for 1945 of 2.37 billion to the present day 2017 figure of 7.58 billion

        7.58 / 2.37 = 3.19 children per person in their lifetime

        Now obviously us chaps cant have children so the figure is double ie
        Each Woman in the last 72 years has had according to the Eugenicists (3.19 x 2) = 6.38 children which doesn’t even match their own figures which alleged a fertility rate of 4.97 in 1950 and 2.5 in 2005 the average of which is 3.735 not 6.38 a figure which is almost double.

        Not that I believe either the 1945 population or Birthrate figures as their overall chart clearly shows an unnatural increase in population from 1700 when the population was only 603.17 billion which happened as I said previously about the same time the eugenics movement started. so I would suggest the 1945 figures are themselves false.

  • stvjns

    Reminds me of what Buckminster Fuller* was saying back in the 80s.

    *genius philosopher inventor , invented the geodesic dome among many other helpful game changers.

  • Bill Ross

    so, ya say WE have an overpopulation problem.

    Simple, you go first.

  • Deanna Clark

    All the over-pop figures are assumed to be correct….why would we assume that? From here to Atlanta is a long corridor of pine trees and empty land because the plantations lost their slave labor in 1865. Much of France is empty since WWI…beautiful land and villages The American midwest NEEDS families to fill their small towns and farms…
    My question is: Who’s counting?

  • Mike Schneider

    There is no overpopulation: the entirety of humanity could fit in the state of Nebraska with a population-density lower than Manhattan. And be surrounded by an emptied world.

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